Barcelona 1-3 Real Madrid: Real comfortable defensively and ruthless on the break

The starting line-ups
Barcelona suffered their second major defeat within the space of a week, and Real are through to the Copa del Rey final.
Jordi Roura brought in Jose Pinto for Victor Valdes in goal – as always in this competition. The rest of the side was the same as against Milan with both Cesc Fabregas and Andres Iniesta in the side, despite David Villa’s impact against Sevilla at the weekend.
Jose Mourinho chose Raphael Varane and Sergio Ramos at centre-back, with Pepe on the bench. Gonzalo Higuain, as expected, started upfront.
Real outplayed Barcelona. Their defensive shape was good, their breaks were typically direct and efficient. 3-1 didn’t flatter them.
Real positive without the ball
In previous Clasicos Real have pressed heavily from the start of the game and dominated the opening ten minutes by forcing Barcelona to concede possession cheaply. Real’s approach was a little less aggressive here, and they followed Milan’s lead of pressing in midfield rather than sitting deep and inviting continual pressure – at least at the start of the game.
The danger with this approach, however, is that a reasonably high defensive line was necessary. Real were torn apart in the 5-0 Clasico because Barcelona ripped their high line to shreds – Lionel Messi coming deep and threading the ball through the defence for the wide forwards. In this match, there was surprisingly little threat in behind the defence from Barcelona, primarily because of the Andres Iniesta-Cesc Fabregas problem on the left, which continues to frustrate.
On the opposite flank, Pedro Rodriguez offers speed and clever runs, but he stayed in a very wide position and therefore wasn’t a direct goal threat – he only got in behind the defence once, in the second minute when creating a chance for Messi, and even this was after he’d checked back and beaten Fabio Coentrao.
Real midfield play
The midfield strategy was similar to Milan’s in theory, if not in actual positioning. Milan played a 4-3-3, Real are 4-2-3-1, which meant the format of the midfield was different, but considering that Milan (like Chelsea and Celtic) often brought their deepest midfielder forward in advance of the other two, maybe it didn’t make that much difference.
There was another familiar theme – Real’s happiness to leave space between their defence and midfield lines, seemingly confident no Barcelona player would move into that zone unattended. Sami Khedira was given the freedom to press the player in his zone – generally Fabregas, who played deeper than against Milan, while Xabi Alonso got tight to Xavi Hernandez, forcing him into backwards passes.
Messi tried to drop into that zone a couple of times, particularly towards the right, but Ramos moved up and stuck tight to him, with Varane becoming the spare man. Messi had a couple of opportunities to turn and run at the Real defence, but overall they limited his influence.
Alonso positioning
Alonso deserves a huge slice of credit for Real’s performance. He’s struggled in many Clasicos, unable to live with Barcelona’s rondos because he’s not a natural tackler, and unable to assert his influence on the game in an attacking sense because of Barca’s pressing. For such an elegant midfield creator, he often becomes a scrapper in these fixtures.
But this was an absolutely superb display. Alonso managed to help nullify two Barcelona players simultaneously – he positioned himself cleverly in front of the defence to prevent forward passes being played into Messi’s feet, yet also stayed alert to the danger of Xavi, always in a position to charge up the pitch and pressure him. Then when Xavi had distributed the ball, Alonso would drop back and get in front of Messi. That freedom to move vertically stemmed from Real’s willingness to leave space in front of the defence.
Again, when Real lost 5-0 at the Camp Nou, Alonso was told to stay deep and Ozil was given the responsibility of tracking Xavi – Xavi moved higher up, Alonso had to react late, Messi became free. Tonight’s tactic – albeit after several subsequent experiences of facing Barca – worked much better.
Equally vital was Alonso’s communication. It’s worth re-watching the first 15 or 20 minutes of the game and solely concentrating on Alonso – not just for his positioning, but for his constant pointing and shouting at his centre-backs. That was crucial considering the partnership at the back – Varane, a youngster who has been primarily used in home matches, and hadn’t played at the Camp Nou before, and Ramos, a terrific defender but one who can be dragged out of position too easily by Messi and Barcelona.
Alonso dispossessed Xavi on the edge of the Real box for the first goal, which summed up his dominance of that contest.
Wide positions
In wider areas, Angel Di Maria sat deep while Cristiano Ronaldo stayed higher up – in fact, he was Real’s most advanced player over the course of the game. This has always been the case for Real, but Barcelona’s shift in full-back play has actually played into Real’s hands – Jordi Alba is now more permanently involved in attacks than Daniel Alves, and Di Maria is the better player to take care of Barcelona’s attacking threat. Previously, Mourinho had sometimes felt obliged to switch Ronaldo and Di Maria, allowing the Argentine to deal with Alves, but forcing Ronaldo away from his preferred position. That is no longer necessary.
Ronaldo’s battle against Alves is always key in these matches. Early on the Brazilian broke past Ronaldo to provide an overlap and cross, but even when this happened Real weren’t hugely concerned – they had a spare defender, after all, and Alves’ advanced positioning meant Pedro had moved central to be looked after by the centre-backs.
Counter-attacks
Besides, it left Ronaldo free to break. Barcelona gave him too many opportunities to run one-against-one on counter-attacks throughout the game – sometimes against Alves, but often against one of Real’s centre-backs instead, in more central areas. Considering Ronaldo is unquestionably Real’s main attacking weapon, it was somewhat surprising Barcelona found themselves so exposed to his runs, but there was some subtle, good movement and passing from Higuain and Ozil.
Higuain didn’t have a superb game, but he either stayed towards the right side of the pitch, forcing Barca’s centre-backs towards that side, or started left and made runs across them, moving them away from Ronaldo. That’s something Real do very cleverly, as explained here.
Ozil, meanwhile, played an understated role but made typically clever movements throughout. Those two players’ contribution for the move that resulted in the penalty for Barca’s first (Ozil’s lob over Sergio Busquets’ head, Higuain’s through-ball past Puyol for Ronaldo to chase) may be simple technically, but showed a great understanding of what Real needed to do when they won possession – get the ball past their opponent as quickly as possible, taking players out of the game.

Average position diagram, courtesy of WhoScored.com, for Barcelona (left) and Real Madrid (right). Three interesting features include Iniesta (8) and Fabregas (4) so close together, Ronaldo (7) being Real's highest player, and Ramos (4) slightly higher than Varane (2) as he moved towards Messi
Iniesta – Fabregas problems
At the risk of repeating what was said following the Milan game, Roura’s continued use of Fabregas and Iniesta in these roles was hugely surprising. Iniesta stayed nearer the touchline while Fabregas floated around in a more central position, but they often got in each others’ way, and Iniesta seems unable to influence the game significantly while Fabregas is taking up his space.
There was one perfect example of the problem, after 10 minutes. Pinto claimed the ball and immediately chucked it long to Iniesta, for Barcelona to break three-against-three. Fabregas started slightly inside of Iniesta, but then made a lazy, casual run into the same ‘vertical’ piece of space as him. He needed to either burst through the middle to provide the potential for a forward pass in behind the defence, or charge to the outside (as Ozil would certainly have done) to stretch the play and allow Iniesta to come inside. In the end, he offered nothing, and Iniesta had to check back, winning a foul from Khedira.
That problem – two players on top of each other – would never have happened under Pep Guardiola. He was insistent on training drills involving ‘boxes’ which forced Barcelona to always cover space effectively – when one man came into your zone, you moved out into another zone. It provides the man in possession with a number of options on the ball, it stretches the play and therefore the opposition defence, and it distributes players across the pitch evenly so Barcelona can press effectively immediately (something also lacking this season). It’s far from unique, and in many ways very basic, but clever spatial distribution was a key part of Guardiola’s strategy, yet so absent here.
Amazingly, using Fabregas and Iniesta so close seems to constrain Barcelona in three separate ways – it doesn’t provide a permanent third central midfielder to help dominate the middle of the pitch, it doesn’t stretch the opposition enough laterally, and it doesn’t offer penetration in behind the defence. Alvaro Arbeloa stuck tight to Iniesta – getting booked towards the end of the first half, which made that approach less possible after the break, but generally coped with him well.
Villa was desperately needed on the left. It was interesting that Messi had commented on Villa’s impact against Sevilla at the weekend, saying, “With Villa up front in the second half, Sevilla’s centre backs couldn’t move forward, which gave me more space.” He hasn’t always worked well with Villa, but would surely have been disappointed to see him on the bench here.
Pattern continues after the break
It was odd that Roura left Barcelona unchanged for the start of the second half, but entirely predictable that the pattern would continue. Barcelona didn’t make the angles for incisive passing, while Real continued to counter-attack. Ronaldo’s second, on 57 minutes, came after another break and before Barcelona had made a change. Barca now needed to score three goals.
At last, Villa replaced Fabregas – but Barcelona quickly conceded another goal, this time a Varane header from a set-piece. Tello replaced Pedro on the right, and now Barcelona had two direct, fresh wide forwards trying to run in behind. Real sat deeper as a result.
But Barcelona now needed four goals, and the tie was effectively over – Mourinho made three logical substitutions, each time introducing a more defensive player in place of the man he was withdrawing. Alba scored an 89th minute consolation, significant only because he was offering forwards runs in behind the defence from the left, something Barcelona should have offered from the outset, through Villa.
Conclusion
It’s worth remembering why Barcelona find themselves in this situation – their manager is recovering from cancer, and Roura haw found himself in a job he doesn’t want, forced to cope with pressure and responsibility without warning. It would be extremely harsh to criticise him strongly considering the circumstances – it’s more polite, perhaps, to simply say that Barcelona are missing Tito Vilanova and his tactical ability, particularly his ability to change matches in-play, which was apparent even in Guardiola’s reign.
That shouldn’t take anything away from Real’s performance: they defended with a brave high line and the midfielders pressed energetically, with Alonso helping to stop both Messi and Xavi with superb positioning. They, like Milan, scored their goals in the expected fashion against Barcelona – two from counter-attacks, one from a set-piece.
And how important is experience of playing Barcelona? Barca’s two key defeats this week have come against sides now accustomed to facing them – Milan played them four times last season, Real Madrid six times. After ‘aggregate’ defeats in 2011/12, maybe Allegri and Mourinho have learnt lessons for 2012/13.





Barca for me shouldve played Iniesta deeper in midfield and started with a more conventional wide player, it’s sad that Alexis is off form. They persist on playing through the middle but with all due respect no matter how good you are you can’t pass through a Madrid defence so well organised. They’ve faced this problem time and time again yet haven’t changed, Real know how to play a perfect game against Barca and other teams know now as well.
David Villa maybe shouldve started. Difference between Messi and Ronaldo tonight was the space they were allowed, Ronaldo being on the flanks offers him more space, in the middle Messi is crowded out, no matter how good you are 3 players or more infront of you is impossible to dribble through. It sounds odd but what would happen if Messi went wide again? Surely he would get more space? If not he would pull the opposition defence apart opening more gaps up. On top of that he could also drift central when he needs to, that could allow Villa to play centrally. Barca need some sort of change.
The counter attacking was destructive honestly, best I’ve seen this season probably from Real. What a player Ronaldo is, I love seeing him take on players, his step overs are still shockingly quick and useful.
It’s a shame how thin the squad is now, especially in attack. Considering how rich Barca is they could have gotten an in-form winger or attacker during the summer to at least cover in the formation without putting too much pressure on the midfielders to produce the goals.
As a madrid fan it’s become very clear since the start of this term that Barca were much less lethal than the 2011, due to the bad forms of Puyol, Alexis, and Villa.
For me that’s one of Barca’s problem. I hate to compare them to my team Arsenal but at times it seems both of them employ an odd transfer policy wherein they only buy players that ‘fit’ the system. This prolongs the time in which they should buy a certain player and it hurts the team.
Barca need another winger, Tello is wasteful in the final third at times and is still raw, Villa is off form and Alexis is off form also. One winger wouldn’t hurt? More importantly however they IMO have needed another CB fand GK or ages but they still haven’t bothered getting either. Obviously it’s hard to criticise a team that’s won so much but everything in life has flaws, Barca could get away with it before perhaps but the flaws have increased in magnitude meaning they need to buy more urgently.
Buying to replace isn’t a bad thing, sometimes teams/fans make it seem like the lazy way or something, it needs to be done though.
About the thin squad, I feel a lot of Barca’s current problems are easily avoidable and their own fault:
Needed a top-class CB to replace aging Puyol and subpar Pique last season, didn’t buy one, even though Thiago Silva was sold by Milan to someone else, Barca could have taken him if they coughed up $40M.
Needed a true winger, didn’t sign one, and they loaned one winger (Cuenca) out.
Needed to have a traditional number 9, they were exposed last year after Villa went out, no true forward for them. Didn’t sign anyone, despite having many options.
Needed a better back up GK, and now they need one to replace Valdes who will leave in June. Haven’t signed one in the summer or January.
They did it today, still didnt work, even though Madrid started without Ronaldo, DiMaria, Ozil, Khedira or Alonso.
great write up.
the copa clasico from last year now seems like a huge turning point.
An absolutely fantastic piece, Michael. Congratulations on the continued good work !
it might sound obvious eight or nine years on, but Ronaldo is astoundingly quick.
Barca lacked runs from deep for through balls against Madrid’s high line; Fabregas and/or Messi should have provided them. Once they had Villa on, Real was comfortable with the result and dropped deeper, leaving less space to exploit. Cesc used to perform those bombing off the ball runs forward from midfield, whatever happened to that? I really hope for Villa to start against Milan, cause this Barca with a single winger and no forwards upfront just can’t work in the big games.
Also, Mascherano should have perhaps been fielded instead of Puyol; with both Barca full backs pushing forward, leaving an ageing Puyol and a not-very-fast Pique behind always meant trouble (even when Busquets dropped back, he too isn’t very quick or agile). Mascherano’s pace would have made him a perfect sweeper for tonight.
Really ? Macherano? Id have aging Puyol any day over Mascherano http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RftReQQX7EY
Cesc doesn’t really have pace to worry CBs like Varane. That’s why they were able to play a high line for so long. The only player who would really worry them (and who also creates spaces for Messi with his great runs) is Alexis. Whether he is scoring or not, he is a vital cog in Barca’s team.
As usual mike, as what Celtic has done lately show how the barca’s starlet didn’t work in pressurized..this is what happen when Milan took over them half of the game. Mourinho is a great tactician & always keep on analyse where’s the problem with his team..now, secondary meet up..he’s know which to produce the best line up with extra role / duties among the players..keep the good work mike !!
Great as always.
The Fabregas, Iniesta issue is hindering the team and the use of both as well as Xavi leaves the team lacking up top.The introduction of Villa here almost seemed to obvious. The use of either Villa or Sanchez in the past was efective giving Messi space deep but without either leaving space ‘between the lines’ has turned from the cardinal sin into the perfect game plan.
For some kind of reason I find this Tito’s Barcelona less fun to watch than the Barcelona under Pep. What are the differences between Tito’s Barca and Pep’s Barca. One thing that I observed is that under Pep, Barcelona’s pressed much more than Tito’s.
I noticed that under Pep Barca seemed to be able to pass much faster in the final third. They could approach the box in with a slow tempo before increasing the tempo of their passes and using 1-2s before going through the last line of defence. They were marvelous.
No reason why they can’t go back to playing like Pep’s Barca though, the personnel is all there. I think certain players need a rest and certain changes need to be made tactically though.
Tito prefers to have the team play more direct and attacking football from earlier in the matches, which is probably partially why they’ve done better in La Liga so far than before (the other reason is just being comparatively fitter than last year) while suffering against good teams. They simply don’t have to deal with potential late draws/loss because they seek the winning goals earlier.
Pep prefers a classic control strategy involving patience, good positioning & passing,heavy pressing, and fast transitions.
On the whole Pep’s style is better, as it allows Barca to beat most great teams. Tito’s tactical preferences easily crush the minnows but don’t cover it’s vulnerabilities enough against better teams.
Great analysis Michael.
I think that Barcelona’s drop in form is very much due to Vilanolva’s absence, something not highlighted by the press. His absence is a huge deal, especially considering that his replacement Roura is a relative amateur.
Michael, do you think playing Fabregas wide in a more direct role could work?
He could alternate between coming inside into a playmaker role between the lines and making runs in behind defences, with Iniesta making his driving runs forward from midfield, and with Alexis/Pedro on the other flank.
Maybe it’s not Fabregas’s natural game but I think he could easily play it very well.
He is too slow to effectively play a wider role.
Barcelona getting Cesc Fabregas was 100% politically driven.
- Their previous president Joan Laporta wanted to sign him as a “good-bye gift” to the supporters and further strengthen his legacy
- Sandro Rosell was pretty much forced to wrap up the deal to save face: Rosell and Laporta are rivals now and he had to back himself up if someone said, “Why are you not bringing our boy Cesc back? Laporta pretty much started the damn job for you” etc.
He’s a great option to have, but it’s like Kaka @ Real Madrid. You can’t really play Oezil and Kaka in the same team unless they completely change their tactics.
I disagree. a) when fighting for 3 trophies in a season you need fresh legs and multiple high profile matches appear one after another. You could just as easily bash United for having so many strikers. b) Xavi is ageing and any year he could have a devastating injury or become out of form. With his passing range, as he demonstrated at Arsenal Fabregas is a great replacement. Plus he is more dynamic than Xavi even though the latter plays the role of a regista much better. c) Andres Initiesta has had injury issues before. It could very well happen again.
Barcelona’s problem is that they haven’t found a replacement for Carles Puyol. Replacing him and Dani Alves in another year or 2 is going to be very difficult. Because of their relationship with Nike they’ll have to spend a lot to get Neymar. The future of Barcelona is doesn’t look that great.
You make great points but Barcelona already had a player for those kinds of scenarios: Thiago Alcantara.
My original point stands.
Well Fabregas is not really a Xavi replacement since he doesn’t play anything like Xavi. The big problem is that playing Fabregas and Iniesta together in big matches is sort of redundant. They both like playing the same role and like to take up the same positions. Also, playing them together means Barca are lacking width which makes them too narrow.
Come on, fire Tito and Roura already, both of them are useless.
Using the same formation that completely nullified by Milan again, completely imbecilic.
Please resign please
do you want to fire a guy who’s receiving chemotherapy-treatment for cancer? a bit cruel and heartless, dont you think?…
I dont know if its more cruel to give the job to someone else or forcing someone with serious cancer under serious treatment coach a team thru the phone which might be more stressful. Remember Pep said before quitting he barely slept and spent all day working.
It was absolute madness to see Barcelona start Cesc / Iniesta / Xavi all over again.
Isn’t this exactly the reason why Guardiola and Del Bosque rarely put all three midfielders in their starting line-ups? This is almost as bad as watching Ancelotti starting Torres in his Chelsea to pretty much appease Abramovich.
I guess it works against weaker teams because they can simply outclass them, but now it’s bordering near arrogance. It’s like they’re saying, “we don’t need to exploit the spaces on the wings, we’ll win our way”.
Yeah I commend their philosophy etc but Pep seemed much more willing to change when change was needed.
Great write-up Michael. I don’t know if Jordi Roura wants the job or not nor do I know if experience will improve his ability as a coach but Jose Mourinho was pitted against a nobody. Teams don’t have to park the bus against Barcelona they simply have to counter-attack to score goals. Let’s put into perspective the mistakes Jordi has made:
1) He cannot learn from his mistake. After 45 min against Milan a good coach would but it doesn’t look like he had even after 90 min. The Fabregas-Iniesta problem was there for the world to see.
2) If it ain’t broke don’t fix it. Why aren’t his players pressing further up the pitch? No wonder the opposition defences are making fewer mistakes.
3) He’s a terrible man-managers. After a shoddy display against Madrid in the first leg and an even worse against Milan a good manager would have stoked the fire, something SAF, Jose Mourinho, Jurgen Klopp and Pep Guardiola have all demonstrated. With the collection of players this shouldn’t have been an issue.
4) No matter how good your center-backs are if you hang them out to dry they will look old/out of form. Replace Gerard Pique and Carles Puyol with the pair from Bayern and they’ll look just as ordinary.
I understand your defence Michael but raking in almost 500 million euros in revenue leaves this club with no excuse when it comes to getting a wily interim coach while Tito recovers. A good coach encompasses the ability to a) select the right players for a given formation and opposition b) man-manage those players and c) make tactical changes before and during the game to influence the outcome. Jordi Roura has demonstrated that he cannot do ANY of those 3. Copa del Rey disappeared in a plume of smoke, a 3rd CL in 5 years is 90 min away from slipping away. So before Diego Simeone’s side slips past one of the great club sides of all time Sandro Rosell needs to make a sound tactical change of his own.
Frankly if they want to accommodate Iniesta, Xavi and Fabregas in the same midfield then they have to push Busquests further back into a 3 man defence and adopt a more Juve/Napoli type shape:
————Pique—–Busquets——–Puyol————————
Alves—————Xavi———————————-Alba
————Iniesta————-Fabregas———————-
——-Messi——————————Villa—————
It would mean that Messi and Villa would work the wide areas more, and make diagonal runs, but in my opinion if they don’t revert to their classic 4-3-3 shape, then this 3-5-2 would be better. Just my 2 cents worth
I doubt that would work because in juventus you have two anchor men marchiso and vidal working front and back to win the ball for Pirlo,pushing Busquests into the CB position will reduce the defensive strength of the midfield,mascherano may be should be in place of cesc to provide the cover for the aging xavi.
That is Busquets role on this team when Alba and Alves go all wingback. What you show there is closer to what they actually did when Villa came on.
I think the suggestion of Messi wide left and Villa as a CF would be very, very interesting, though couldn’t it result in the same problem in the attacking left zone?
Messi plays much higher up the pitch than Iniesta.
Messi drops pretty deep to pick up the ball at times though
Wonderful analysis and points ZM. Being a barca fan I had this sick feeling in my stomach and for the 2nd time in a week your analysis has quelled to to a certain extent.
Few points from me..
- It has been really really noticable lately that barca find themselves in positions where they are unable to press rather than unwilling to press.
- It is quite obvious that fabregas experiment works against teams who aren’t as skilled at tracking his runs, which are a result of the space afforded to him either between the lines or behind the defensive line. Well drilled teams simply do no give him that space and consequently he isn’t effective. Villa played more centrally, rather than wide against sevilla, but it was immediately noticable that messi found himself in a lot more space. He occupied the centerbacks and immediately both messi and iniesta had more freedom.
- And surely I’m not the only one to notice that barca are conceding huge number of goals from the left. Teams are actually attacking them more from the right. Maybe Alba needs to stay back a bit.
So why exactly do you think Pep want Cesc so bad 2 years ago? Just for the romantic story?
Back then I though he was supposed to be a long-term Iniesta replacement, but they’ve repeatedly fielded this weakened formation with both together. He’s interfering with the roles of both of Barca’s 2 most consistent attackers-Messi & Iniesta.
As stated several times, the deployment of Fabregas with Iniesta in the center just doesn’t add up especially after the Milan game. Not really sure how an even out of form Sanchez or Tello would be any worse. Even in the Milan game when Sanchez came on he made some good runs in behind the defense (something I have not seen Fabregas do at all in these last 2 games).
I’m not stupid enough to think Barca have been producing these results solely from bad luck, and I do agree with most of the analysis ZM makes.
I do however want to point out that in the 1st leg Barcelona could and should have scored more goals. Strangely, these teams tend to play better at the opponents own turf.
Regarding the 2nd leg, I do not agree it was a comprehensive destruction of Barcelona. The first half was very even, sure the counterattacks worried Barca, but the first goal was not a goal until Pique decided to gamble and lost. He should have stayed on his feet a few seconds more or even allowed the shot.
The first half was even, RMA did not create a whole lot either, but of course, everybody loves sensationalism so pundits and experts pretend that RMA dominated 1st half completely which just wasn’t the case.
Second half was prety much like the first. Barca were extremely close to finding an equalizer on more than one occasion, instead Khedira clears the ball, Di Maria finds it, Puyol slips, Pinto saves, ball ends up at Ronaldo, pinto 0.5 seconds too late to save the shot from Ronaldo.
So instead of 1-1 it is now 0-2. Inches decided this game but the world believes it was total destruction from minute 1 to 90.
After the 0-2 it was easymode for RMA as Barcelona faded because the tie was over.
I agree there were numerous tactical issues with Barcelona, but it is not fair to say it was a one sided journey.
First leg could and should have ended with more goals for FCB and second leg was decided by inches.
That’s the only issue I have with the memory of this game.
And before people flame me I want to point out the same thing has happened to RMA in other games against FCB. Moments from equalizing and instead the other team finds a second goal.
Supercopa, FCB was inches away from making it 4-1, instead Valdes gifts RMA a 3-2 goal. Subsequently, RMA wins at the Bernabeu 2-1.
These battles are decided by inches more often than not but people do not seem to noice that.
The problem I have with this reasoning is that it always seems as if Barca was almost there. I would agree with you if it didn’t always end up like this when a quality defense is able to disrupt Barca in the final third and force them to be near perfect to break them down with intricate perfect passes. That said, I feel as if Morinho has built a team that is near perfectly constructed to beat Barca.
0.5 sec late whatever, They were up 3-0. After the first goal they never had a chance. And to add insult to injury Mourinho brought in Pepe to play as a forward. Who knows how it could have ended if Mourinho had brought in Kaka etc. About the first game, Madrid wasted a lot of chances too, we could say it could have ended 4-3 etc but this makes no sense the goals are the important part and a near miss its still a miss. Remember with 1-1 it was going to overtime and Barca had to be more cautious because with one more lucky goal from Madrid tying wouldnt be enough and they would have to score 2 more.
I don’t know about the Iniesta-Fabregas issue. I have seen Iniesta in the past stretch the play.
These is something that I remember from the Guardiola era: Barca used to stretch the play on both sides: Dani Alves, on the right, was always playing tight to the line and in a very advanced position. They did the same on the left with Iniesta/Cuenca/Tello/Alexis…
I think the fact that Jordi Alba is so good offensively is actualy working against Barcelona.
I think this illustrates how Madrid are set up to punish great teams who play attacking football and suffer to break down the lesser teams that turtle up and pray. I would love to see how either of these teams would do against Bayern.
One of your best reviews Sir. Thank you for this.
It was also nice of you to end the review mentioning the absence of Tito. Until Tito was there, Barca had lost only against Celtic(or may be another loss, dont remember well). And thereafter it has been terrible for them, especially against big teams.
How many might have noticed, Barca looked much better after Thiago coming in for Xavi, also because Iniesta too came into the middle. Playing Iniesta in the wings is an absolute waste of talent, which even Pep tried out last season.
Milan must be so happy watching this game.
I think a major part to take from these two defeats is that the world-class players of Barcelona do not “coach themselves,” as many often claimed. It shows that one cannot underestimate the influence of Guardiola or Vilanova on the team and their tactical ability. As far as the match analysis goes, excellent stuff as always ZM!
Barcelona had better address some structural problems which they seem to be ignoring. Key players are losing pace – Xavi, Alves, and perhaps most importantly Messi. These players should not be pushed to the limit. Xavi for example should not have been rushed back from injury. These players need prolonged rest and special training regimens to prolong their careers, the kind that many aging athletes in North American sports undertake. In the meantime, players such as Thiago should be playing more, to give the older players a rest and to gain experience.
Some of the more experienced players are also making amateurish mistakes, such as the Fabregas/Iniesta positioning problem ZM mentioned. They surely know better, but they seem to be, so to speak, stuck in a rut. Too many matches and too tired, I think. They need a break, to sit back and look at the game afresh. New players and combinations would help freshen their minds.
As for the tactical problems in this particular match, ZM is right on. Iniesta needs to be in the middle to help retain the ball better. I would take Fabregas out for refreshment and have Pedro or Thiago as a fourth midfielder. Perhaps also replace Xavi with Thiago (who incidentally is also having pace problems since his injury). Villa and Messi up front in a 4-4-2, with Messi staying much higher than he is now. Messi dropping deep is no longer a threat for teams like Real because he simply can’t get past them any more from there – they easily crowd him out. However, up high on the centre backs, he’s still a problem because he can pull the centre backs away and open space for others.
I do remember Barça winning 3-1 at the Bernabeu last year in la Liga with Fabregas, Xavi and Iniesta on the pitch. Alexis played almost like a regular 9 (although covering the right flank for defense), Iniesta on the left, Xavi-Fabregas in midfield, Messi as a 10 and Busquets almost as a CB (Puyol covering Alves’ forward runs on the right). So it is possible for Barça to play well with Iniesta, Fabregas and Xavi, albeit with a very different formation.
WIth Madrid playing a high defensive line, Barça could benefit from a pacy player playing as a 9 and making direct runs behind the defense. ZM noted that Real leave a large space between the midfield and the defense, but with a regular 9 darting behind the CB, Barça can strech Real’s team even more and create space for Messi. Unfortunately, eversince Tito took over there has been little flexibility in how Barça has been playing.
More than Villa, Barça appear to need Alexis’ energy at the moment
I think people here criticizing the signings of Fabregas, and to a lesser extent Alba, are looking over the contributions they have done at distinct parts of the season and in certain scenarios. Whilst Guardiola’s Barça at their peak had a fairly short squad, having a few alternative options never hurt anyone, and in certain scenarios Fabregas’ runs and synnergy with Messi have helped them to a few wins (remember the false 9 and false 10 duo thing?), likewise Alba’s attacking threat.
It may be counterproductive to start them constantly as Barça’s plan A though, for different reasons. Fabregas must be used in situations when he adds to Barça’s directness not detracts from it or stands in the way of anyone, and Alba must be used in situations where his attacking threat isn’t outweighed by the space left behind him. Many top managers prefer to play with 1 attacking fullback and 1 defensive fullback on the other flank, and it may be a case of having to choose between either Alba or Daniel Alves for some of the bigger matches. Although at this stage with Abidal’s fitness a question mark, you do wonder who could come in.
I definitely don’t think either player is a bad signing, they can be very useful, they’re just not being used the right way.
Mind you I have not been able to watch a lot of football this season, and have missed yesterday’s match so am relying on Michael’s analysis as factual truth.
Barca need to be Baled out.
the write up was too much some thing like ayn rand novel . you made a beautiful game much too technical with your write up i suppose even jose might not been that much intricate with his pre match tactics .
keep it real dont make it boring .
do the dortmund -bayern game tonight .
please do not visit a tactics site, if its bohring.
you could use with a please, may be, rather than ordering.
rahul khond you brain dead moron. go watch match of the day you mong
Sir you don’t know what you are talking about. Football without tactics is nothing these days as Barcelona is a good example.
do you really think that way michael . if you say so i wont ever visit this page again just say yes .
bye
I think this is evidence enough (as close to a hypothetical example can be in real life) that
1. Guardiola’s arrival equating instant success wasn’t a fluke
2. Not everyone can coach Barcelona to success (as English pundits have, very annoyingly, been suggesting over the past few years)
3. Barcelona probably needs to add some unpredictability with their starting lineup, mostly up front. They have four wide attackers, two wingers and two converted strikers. They all bring something different.
Also to reply to RAHUL KHOND, Thats the whole point of this blog. To analyse the game from a technical standpoint.
To go back a step, Pep’s boxes-of-pitch has some serious downsides. If you assume that the opposition uses the same boxes, that’s fine. When they put two men into one of your boxes, or ignore some of them completely, suddenly your players are in a quandary – go with the man or maintain the shape. Mourinho’s tactical bravery illustrates this, if you concede half the pitch to Barcelona, make it a vertical half rather than a horizontal half.
Iniesta & Fabregas is a nice idea but they seem to have problems with the execution, one assumes the idea is to create nice passing triangles through a congested central area with Messi being the third point of the triangle. Again, bravery helps, if you assume they’re going to play rondos, two piggies in the middle are better than one, even if that means that there is no-one explicitly covering when they manage to make a pass.
Your conclusions were absolutely spot on and showed tremedous rhetoric too
I laugh at those who think Roura actually impacted the starting XI and the changes. You don’t think Tito has sent detailed instructions regarding all possible scenarios? Of course Roura has to give SOME on-pitch instructions, but it’s probably stuff any coach at a decent level could spot and point out. I’m not saying Vilanova’s absence didn’t affect the outcome of the game, it probably did, but probably more in the mentality ahead of the game rather than the approach on the field.
Sure, any decent coach would do that. Last season, Roura was preparing videos of opponents for Pep.
Thanks for this.
What do you think Vilanova/Roura should change for the return game with Milan?
Take out Fabregas, put Iniesta where he belongs and unleash David Villa as left wing attacker?
Or go with Guardiola’s 3-3-4 from last year? Tello and Pedro on the wings, Villa in the center and Messi in a free central role. The back 3 are hard to choose, though. Abidal would be perfect here.
Or another system with Fabregas interchanging with Leo?
Barca are great when they stretch their opponents. They need to play with forwards on the wings who are willing to run in behind. I would play a front three of Villa Messi Pedro. Iniesta to play in midfield next to Xavi. Play Mascherano because Puyol is too slow when opponents play on the counter. No need to stuff an extra midfielder like Cesc in there. Iniesta/Xavi/Busquets will dominate every team in the world so a fourth midfielder is not needed.
I quite like your 3-3-4 idea against Milan. If I remember then there were a few matches in the beginning of the season when they were chasing a result that they ended up with this shape. Mallorca away was perhaps one.
Not sure that it is a good idea from the start, as it would leave them very vulnerable at the back – but if still needing goals at half time then I can see it making sense. Especially if combined with Pressing, Pressing and more Pressing. With 4 players high-up able to close down defenders.
To me the lack of pressing both against Milan and against RM was the biggest difference between previous years – rather than the Fabregas vs Villa debate we are all having.
Milan and RM defenders and central midfielders had the time to look up and play a pass in a way they never had under Pep.
It may be that this works in the league against weaker teams by “inviting” them out to play, (rather than boxing them in aroudn their penalty area the way pressing does) and opening them up, but Milan and RM suddenly had the time to pick out their runners, and then Barcelona always look shaky as they commit so many players forward.
Looking at some of the classico’s under Pep, it was interesting to see how they struggled playing even simple balls out of defence or CM, and how often those balls would go to a Barcelona player. Xabi Alonso was often made to look very poor.
Lastly I thought I noticed a promising tactic early on under Tito where against packed defenses, rather than getting stuck trying to play it through the top of the D, Barcelona would play balls (often little chips) down to the goal line for wingers or wing-backs to run onto and cut-back hard low centres into the penalty box for unrushing attackers. Always thought this was a good trick for Barcelona vs packed defenses as it is an easier pass to play than through the middle, forces defenders to turn against their own goal (meaning they can lose track of their man), and the low cut-backs are more promising for Barcelonas shorter players. Does anyone else remember seeing more of this in the beginning of the season? Think we should see more of it, rather than Messi trying to run through the crowded centre again and again.
Excellent analysis as usual though I don’t agree that it was particularly surprising that Fabregas and Iniesta continued in these roles. Fabregas was poor in Milan but generally this season there has been a good understanding between the two and Jordi Alba on the left. A recent example could be the 1-3 win at Malaga in January when the left side looked fantastic. And just for the record in Barça’s wins last season at the Bernabeu, Iniesta, Fabregas and Xavi all started, as they did in the 4-0 win over Santos in the Club World Cup.
Villa might have been a better option from the start but we can’t be sure, he certainly didn’t make much impact after coming on.
True, this is official. Tito Vilanova is looking every game, training session and HE makes the decision of the starting eleven and so on. Even during halftime Roura is in contact with Tito. Jordi Roura gets too much hate he doesn’t deserve.
Its interesting to me that this season, Real Madrid has consistently outplayed or at least matched Barca in every game….
They won the Supercopa, the drew 2-2 away in the first liga clasico, and than they draw 1-1 at home, and now they win 3-1 away in the return leg…..
Truly a huge turnaround from 2008-2010 when Madrid could barely even score against them, let alone secure a draw or a win….
But haven’t they built a team so focused on beating Barcelona that it doesn’t work nearly as well in the league? I understand the value of making a Barca-beating side, but they’ve essentially given up on the league because their counter attacking side can’t do nearly as much vs. a parked bus.
I would use a slightly modified 4-3-3. Messi playing center/right free role. Villa at center forward dragging CBs out of position with his movement. Pedro making incisive diagonal runs into gaps opened by Villa movement. Alves taking the chance to cut inside and unleash a long shot when Messi drifts wide. I always prefer Messi to drift wide rather than deep when looking for space. He presents far more problems to a defense when moving wide as opposed to moving deep.
He still moves right when playing for Argentina, and has scored some of his most breathtaking goals when starting from this position (see legendary Getafe, friendly goal versus Brazil). Messi’s increased central positioning has taken away the great chemistry he and Alves once displayed.
I would instruct Pique to bomb forward at every opportunity, and have Busquets to drop in and cover.
Structure/movement are Barcelona’s main problem.
I don’t see any way Barcelona produces a performance to reverse the 2-0 against Milan on current form. I don’t think the necessary structural changes will be made in time, and I don’t think Villa is fit enough make it possible. Clearly, the Barcelona coaches don’t believe he is fit enough. The broken leg came at the worst possible moment of his career at his age.
Absolutely brilliant analysis this, the point on Fabregas and Iniesta is spot on. Fabregas is one of the main problems I believe. He just isn’t needed. Xavi is the playmarker, Iniesta can penetrate, Fabregas just congests things, makes it easier for the opposition to defend.
Barcelona are going through a bad spell here, teams are working them out, but they aren’t helping themselves, and I think Roura is tactically poor. Barcelona need to go back to the 2010/2011 system. Busq-Xavi-Iniesta as the central three, with Villa, Messi, Pedro as the front three. David Villa has got to come back in. His movement opens up many more opportunities, and also disrupts the opposition team shape. As they are at the moment, it’s all in front of the opposition, slightly slow and predictable even, and no real direct threat, especially with Pedro staying too wide as well.
Also have Mascherano in for Puyol. I’ve never been a big fan of Puyol, but now more than ever I think his time is up. I think Mascherano vastly improved as a ball playing defender under Pep, to a level higher than Puyol’s, and I also feel he’s better in 1 on 1 situations, and with speed.
Away from Barcelona and the problems they may be having, Madrid’s tactics were extremely good. By all accounts, a large amount of the players dislike Mourinho, but they still went out and executed his game plan to perfection. Narrow, compact and central block around the six yard box and in the defensive areas making it very hard for Barcelona to attack and find space, but the counter attacking was just immense, easily the best counter attacking side in world football. Made me think that they will see off United next week in the return leg at Old Trafford. At OT, I can’t see United not going out to attack. They surely can’t play like they did in the Bernabeu at OT, the crowd won’t have it, and I just can’t see Ferguson doing it. So, they’ll try get at Madrid, and Ronaldo, Benzema, and Di Maria will absolutely slaughter them on the counter attack. I think Madrid will comfortably score 2, and I can’t see United scoring 3 personally.
The analysis is spot on.Fabregas is just redundant in this team – he just congests the midfield and makes it easier for teams to close down Barca.What this team needs is width and runs behind the defenders to drag them out of position. Messi must have a striker in front of him to occupy the center-backs and give him some options other then to run into a wall…
Get A Real Coach. lt’s all I have to say
i dont know why people are saying that mourinho did defensive substitutions like bringing on pepe ? its simple , tie was over and pepe was coming back from injury , he needs playing time.
Is there a more negative substition in the world than Pepe on for Ozil. One of the most elegant players in the world off for PEPE.
On Cesc and Iniesta, its not as bad as people make it out to be, at the very least they could be moved around to different areas on the pitch. I wouldnt mind seeing Messi right wing, anyone elese left wing(preferbly sanchez or pedro) and fabregas as striker.
Or even Villa as striker messi Right wing, Just get messi on the right wing
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Xavi should have been subbed, not Fabregas.
The same thing happened in the Milan game.
Fabregas is ten times more likely to score a goal – simple. He’s the best shooter outside the box in the team…
I’d love to see Roura drop Xavi against Milan or at least, not make the same mistake 3 times in a row.
Fabregas is overrated as a shooter from outside the box.
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Why Barcelona keep loosing lately? The answer lie within the winning formula of their style of play.
Braca has it’s own unique style of play that is different to all the other clubs in the the world. Their main defensive strategy is to keep the ball with them as much as possible while they penetrate slowly and steadily to the opposition territory. Their average share in possession of ball per mach is some where around 70%. With that much time on their side they don’t have to worry too much about how many player are there to defend their goal in the back. Usually it is only two player at the back when Dani and Alba attack from the flanks to cross the ball in to the penalty box.
Now that every coach in the football world know their style of play, when ever Braca is having the ball other team go in to four by four formation to defend while only two or only one player hang in the front. That is two solid walls of 4 players each anticipating all genius moves from Iniest, Messi and the rest.(This has happened with Chelsea last season and with Milan and Real recently including the la lega mach on 02/03/2013 )
What happens if they loose the ball ? The opposite side will break fast like crazy and send the ball to their players at the front and all they have to beat is two defenders (or three if one flank manage to run back on time) to score or to win a corner.(Braca has to do something to improve how to defend corners too) If the opposition team has two good forwards who can get pass one defender that is the end of the story for Barcelona. We have seen this happening over and over with comparatively good opposition teams.
Barcelona has to change their style of play soon or it will be the end of an era for them and us fans too.
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