Manchester United 2-1 Liverpool: United press

The starting line-ups
Manchester United dominated the first hour, then hung on in the final stages.
Sir Alex Ferguson named Danny Welbeck in his starting XI, with the out-of-form Antonio Valencia on the bench. Jonny Evans was out injured, so Rio Ferdinand and Nemanja Vidic played at the back.
Brendan Rodgers kept Daniel Sturridge on the bench, preferring Stewart Downing and Raheem Sterling.
Liverpool fought back in the second half, but took too long to get going, and United dominated the majority of the game.
United shape
The use of Shinji Kagawa, Welbeck and Ashley Young in the same team offered Ferguson many possibilities – in theory, any of the three could be used on the right, the left or in the centre behind Robin van Persie. The most natural combination would probably have been to put Welbeck right, in place of Valencia, keep Young in his usual left-sided role, and play Kagawa in the position he thrived in at Dortmund, as a number ten.
But Ferguson instead played Young on the right, Kagawa left and Welbeck upfront. It was a surprising but reasonably effective move – Welbeck provided great pace upfront and was crucial in United’s pressing, the main feature of the first half, while Kagawa drifted inside from the left to become another passing option in central midfield. Young was quieter, partly because of injury.
Liverpool pressing?
But the main feature of the game was the difference in pressing. In general, Liverpool didn’t attempt to close down the Manchester United centre-backs, despite Luis Suarez being the Premier League’s best striker at leading the pressing from the front. Maybe Rodgers felt that, with three midfielders in deep positions (rather than Suarez being supported by an advanced midfielder – Jonjo Shelvey’s played that role recently) it would be pointless for Suarez to press two centre-backs on his own.
Instead, Liverpool’s midfield lurked deeper and tried to press the first pass from the centre-backs into forward positions. The wingers occupied the full-backs, and in the first ten minutes it was obvious that Joe Allen had been instructed to close down Michael Carrick whenever the United midfielder received the ball. This was a decent plan – Carrick often struggles against close physical attention – but was flawed. First, Allen wasn’t the ideal option to play this role – Shelvey and Jordan Henderson are both more energetic players and superior at making life difficult for opponents. Second, Allen’s main defensive role was to drop deep and stay close to Lucas Leiva – which meant that he had to advance 10 or 15 yards up the pitch to close down Carrick, giving him time to play an easy pass. Steven Gerrard, meanwhile, simply didn’t press Tom Cleverley effectively.

When Liverpool troubled Carrick with the use of Suarez in a deep role after half-time, his passing was much less noticeable
United pressing
In stark contrast, United pressed very well. It was interesting that Ferguson was so determined to stop Liverpool playing out from the back – in other ‘big’ games this season, he’s favoured a counter-attacking approach, happy to let the opposition dominate the ball before breaking quickly down the flanks, particularly against Chelsea and Manchester City. This match was different, being at Old Trafford, and Ferguson had triumphed over Rodgers’ Swansea last season at the Liberty Stadium through pressing, forcing a mistake from Angel Rangel, which resulted in the game’s only goal.
Here, van Persie generally occupied Daniel Agger, while Danny Welbeck stayed on Lucas and the midfield backed up the forwards nicely. At least three times in the first half, Liverpool conceded possession in dangerous positions because of United pressure – Pepe Reina passed the ball straight to Young early on, while Gerrard was caught in possession by van Persie (redeeming himself with a last man tackle), and Allen presented the ball to Welbeck under pressure from Carrick, a more effective piece of pressing than anything Allen had done on Carrick.
Working the ball forward
The difference in pressing was inevitably a huge factor in the sides’ respective abilities to work the ball forward. Liverpool didn’t help themselves – Downing and Sterling played very narrow, maybe to offer clear forward passing options, but they made Liverpool’s play congested and United’s task easier when closing down. In fact, there was a lack of genuine width throughout the game, even when Valencia was introduced, although there was good attacking play from all four full-backs – Glen Johnson and Andre Wisdom got into promising positions, Patrice Evra assisted van Persie’s opener, and Rafael nearly assisted a second for van Persie, after a great ball from Carrick just before half-time.
Suarez’s lack of service in the first half was amazing. He started to drop deep away from the centre-backs, with Rio Ferdinand following him out when Suarez was in his zone, but Nemanja Vidic standing off, more concerned about pace in behind him. At the other end, van Persie was very clever with his movement towards the ball, and Lucas’ attempts to prevent passes being played into him were largely unsuccessful, and opened up space for others to exploit between the lines.
Liverpool change shape

Sturridge was introduced for Lucas, allowing Suarez to drop deeper
Rodgers decided to introduce Sturridge for the second half, bravely removing Lucas, leaving Gerrard and Allen in front of the back four. Although Sturridge went to a centre-forward role, Liverpool’s shape was more 4-2-3-1 than 4-4-2 – the wingers stayed high up the pitch (Borini replaced Sterling), while Suarez was clearly in a deep position, linking play as a number ten.
The game was now completely different. With both sides playing two central attackers and the midfield zone less congested, both were playing more directly. Suarez was essentially playing in the midfield zone, meaning Carrick and Cleverley had to sit deeper and make United compact, so pressed Gerrard and Allen less. They got time on the ball, and Gerrard suddenly became a key player, having been invisible in the first half.
United had chances, often by hitting the ball forward to Welbeck directly (Skrtel hauled him down when caught on the wrong side, which conceded the free-kick for United’s second) but Liverpool improved dramatically after the change in formation. It wasn’t just Sturridge’s threat in behind, it was Suarez’s freedom – and it was surprising Ferguson took so long to address this problem.
It was the 77th minute when Phi Jones was introduced to play as a defensive midfielder, with Kagawa sacrificed and Welbeck going left. It shouldn’t have taken so long – Liverpool had been allowed back into the game, and now they had an extra attacker, United basically needed another defensive-minded player in response.
Conclusion
Both sides had spells of dominance. United dominated in the first half by pressing Liverpool high up the pitch, forcing mistakes, while Liverpool excelled in the second half after introducing Sturridge. The difference in their number of attempts sums up the contrast before and after half-time.

Ferguson’s starting strategy worked wonders but his delayed reaction to Liverpool’s second half threat was odd, while Rodgers was the opposite. His initial tactics were unsuccessful, then he adapted cleverly – although the inevitable question is whether he was simply correcting how own initial mistakes. Still, having changed formation nicely against both Everton and Chelsea previously, and showing bravery to make a tactical substitution in the first half to change shape in the home win over Wigan, it’s clear Rodgers has the ability to influence games from the bench.





I would love to see Young-Kagawa-Welbeck used behind VP again, whereas Rooney is so static sometimes, the three of them worked very hard and can all rotate, I think they could be as good, with a stable two behind them, of being the midfield for the next few years. Better than the three amigos at Chelsea, maybe.
I’d love to see United start without a striker, like the old Queiroz days. Ferguson has been so adapting of the natural forces of football, and I think he needs to reconsider his positioning with Rooney, my favoured would be a few miles outside the ground. I would love to see a really fluid front three and fluid midfield. I think something like this would be good;
———-De Gea———-
-Rafael-Jones-Evans-Evra–
————Carrick——-
—-Cleverley————-
————Kagawa——–
–Nani————Welbeck-
———Van Persie——-
I’m curious why would you prefer to see Rooney out? He’s a massive influence and I fail to see how he handicaps United.
because welback , kagawa and van persie even nani are all very good in one and one situations and can keep hold of the ball and are quite capable of playing in tight situations ( look out for the first goal ) while rooney is also quite decent in passing but keeping hold of the possession and excelling in one on situations is not his cup of tea . that is why he must have said that but rooney too has qualities and he brings different angle to the game .
Rooney is very erratic: on his bad days he can’t even control the ball. There’s no point judging him just by his good days.
I don’t understand this negativity towards Rooney, considering he’s only made 14 league appearances, he’s notched 7 goals and 7 assists in this time. I don’t doubt that sometimes he receives more media attention for being an English player and there’s always been hype about him ever since he scored that goal against Arsenal but he’s clearly got bags of ability and has yet to reach his peak.
One thing’s for certain, when he’s fit again, he’ll be straight back in the starting lineup because Fergie is another person who recognises his quality and Rooney will pick up plenty more goals and assists before the season’s over to repay Fergie’s faith.
I understand where you’re coming from with your first statement.
I think the shape and style is probably where Manchester United are going to be heading in the future, with an interchanging front three, akin to Chelsea really. Kagawa has shone in that role in his last two years in the Bundesliga and there’s no doubt that Rooney can play there. In fact if you look at Rooney’s goal record, this might be a more natural position. Both players give you quality on the ball and bundles of energy and work rate.
The third option is less clear, Nani, Young occupy more traditional wide berths, but Welbeck’s pace could be exploited on the break and in pressing as Michael talks about here. He also makes a great option when United hit on the break. Nani for me would be a good option to bring on with tiring legs, his pace and ability could cause damage off the bench.
No doubt the passing ability of Cleverly and Carrick is exceptional and even Ryan Giggs could look at filling that deeper role when you look at the ball he pinged to Van Persie in the FA Cup against West Ham.
However I completely disagree with playing a False 9. When you have the likes of Van Persie and Hernandez who are natural and clinical strikers, it is inefficient to place them anywhere other than at the focal point in attack. Ferguson was fuming last season about losing the title on goal difference and he won’t let the same happen again this time around.
It would be interesting to see if Zaha arrives. I heard he tweeted that he was “on the way to the top of the Premier League” before promptly deleting it. His arrival whether now or in the summer could spell the end of Nani and indeed Anderson who have both been plagued with injuries for a long time now.
Wow I’d never thought I’d see the day when you have to make a case for Rooney’s inclusion in the line-up. FOR SHAME you ungrateful Man Utd fans.
I’m a Zenit St Petersburg fan.
Rodgers needs to swallow his pride and play Henderson rather than Allen, he would have been far more effective at pressing Carrick. Also his energy provides verticality that Gerrard no longer can do consistently.
Nice job as usual. I was quite surprised, pleasantly, at how United pressed Liverpool in the first half. strange that Fergie doesn’t do it more often. With the likes of Rooney, Anderson, Nani and Jones as options aside from the starters today, United have the players to actually do is successfully more often. Instead United back off too many times and try to counter, sacrificing control of the tempo and possession as well as territory. It used to work very well, but now I think it’s time for a rethink for United.
It is sometimes amusing to see the fear that Liverpool players have about playing the long ball even when they are in a bit of trouble because of BR’s insistence of playing the ball out from the back with short passes. LFC were notorious for just hoofing the ball up the pitch, Reina, Alonso, Gerrard, in fact it’s how Torres got many of his goals. Now they would rather get into trouble and possible lose the ball in a dangerous spot than to lump it up the pitch.
May be because of the fitness level? The players get so tired after first hour that they struggle to keep the momentum going. It happened y’day as well as agaisnt WBA The first half then Man Utd played in full energetic mode and by the time 2nd half started, everybody was so tired. Probably because these players are not used to running their socks off as fortunately they don’t need to do that agaisnt many teams in the league. Only as recently as past two years the teams have started pressing and attacking Man Utd and that’s when they looked vunerable. Now slowly with the inclusion of Cleverly, Kagawa in first team, the team can quickly move the ball around the players. With Fletcher, Giggsy, Scholes the player movement was always in question and they took a lot of time on the ball. Now just hoping Cleverly and Kagawa bulk up and increase their fitness level. I want to say the same of Anderson but I’ve already said it many times before to get disappointed.
With Carrick and (for this and previous seasons) Scholes as key central midfielders, pressing consistently is surely a dangerous tactic. But against Liverpool, with Rodger’s starting formation they are much too deliberate about their build-up play to be particularly incisive, pass selection and positioning are both very conservative– while being so spread out as provide inadequate cover at times. Considering MUFC’s ability to counter quickly, Fergie maybe figured that the risk of the Liverpool counter wasn’t as important as the opportunities that the pressing would create when the Scouse defense is situated from sideline to sideline. The amount of mistakes Liverpool have made when they are trying to build from the back this season is quite alarming.
ZM is back nicccccce. You know it’s all well and good writing for here there and everywhere but it’s just not the same as the original flavour. There were some good games over the festive period, I’m sure you watched them, a few diagrams would have been appreciated you know.
Maybe a winter break is good for the players and national teams but as a fan I love the English league’s December schedule. Half way through the season the pressure goes into overdrive, it’s cold, it’s bleak (especially up north), four games in eleven days sorts the short sleeves from the long sleeves. Then if you’re really lucky afterwards the high rollers will have the romance of small, cold, dank non-league dressing room and a mole ridden pitch to contest with. It’s the white heat of the season I tell you.
Anyway Man Utd v Liverpool had a nice tactical swing that even a pleb like I could appreciate during the game. Did you watch MOTD? I don’t think you did or you would have known that it was Sturridge’s hunger, desire and determination that swung the match in Liverpool’s favour. That’s why Rodger’s kept him on the bench for the first half, like a starved lion a hungry pig will feed on anything. Pressing? High up the pitch? Ferdinand and Vidic I say, Nemanio!
And what about the onlooking Emperor Palpatine, what lesson’s did he garner? Carrick whilst in the best form he’s been in for a good while is still fallible under pressure. Can Ozil press his panic button? Fergie-Wan Kenobi must surely be aware of such weaknesses, any chance of Scholes starting against the men in white? Will United do as they did against Chelsea and City and sit deep looking to hit Real’s left flank which will surely be exposed due to Ronaldo’s willingness to track back?
Anyway good to see your back.
You’re……………
“you would have known that it was Sturridge’s hunger, desire and determination that swung the match in Liverpool’s favour. That’s why Rodger’s kept him on the bench for the first half, like a starved lion a hungry pig will feed on anything.”
Haha!
Yeah watching MOTD is painful at times, especially when they flash the “Analysis” on screen and then proceed to let Alan Shearer describe the play. Uh, WTF?
Aye, ye cannae use yer elbows when yer doin’ analysis.
Liverpool struggle against teams pressing them in their own half. One of the reasons why Stoke were victorious was because of the relentless pressure they kept on applying.
It was a brave decision by Rodgers to take off Lucas – he is so important to the Liverpool team.
The players that Liverpool have now, and the system they try to play – counter attacking seems to be their best approach. Suarez and Sterling do well against teams adopting a high defensive line. The moment they drop deep, the two struggle as there is not much support arriving from the midfield.
This really was a game of two halves. The delay to ferguson’s defensive subsitution may have been because of the injury to Vidic. Sir Alex waiting to see if he needed to replace his captain before changing his tactics. Vidic lasted until 80 mins but could easily have needed to come off early after his collision with Reina. Liverpool’s rushed united into silly passes a lot in the second half. This allowed them to apply solid pressure on the united goal because united kept giving them the ball back. United failed to make the most of their strong first half and were fortunate not to be punished for their poor shooting.
I thought it was interesting how Utd overloaded the middle in the first half. In theory, Liverpool had a 3v2 advantage there but Ferguson played it quite smartly. Because Liverpool were playing a ‘1-2′ but without intensity of pressing in midfield, it meant Utd could dominate that central area, first because Kagawa was drifting inside often, second because Cleverley was making runs forward between the lines and thirdly because Van Persie or generally Welbeck were dropping off into the lateral space either side of Lucas. It basically meant Utd were sometimes getting 4v3 in the centre and more importantly 2v1 in the space either side of Lucas, making it difficult for him to know who to pick up, especially given the lack of pressing ahead of him.
–Kagawa—Lucas—-Welbeck
——Gerrard—-Allen
–Cleverley————-
————–Carrick
Rodgers definitely did the right thing at half time by first changing it to a ‘2-1′ in midfield and secondly bringing on Sturridge to free up Suarez to drop deep and find space between the lines, especially with the wingers pushing up high.
Rodgers is doing well. Buying Sturridge was the right choice because they lacked attacking options. What if Suarez will be injured?
As about the game Liverpool deserved at least one point, they were unlucky with Vidic’s goal offside.
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I felt shunning Kagawa into the left wing was a bad idea in the first half. He mostly stayed invisible and saw very less of the ball. He should rather have been played high so that he could influence the game which he couldn’t. Ofcourse there was linking up and often drifting inside but in the final third his impact was negligible barring the only shot he had. He should have been playing behing RvP so that we could see more of him showing his skills which unfortunately were limited at lw.
Fed up of watching the same old rubbish every week,Rodgers only has one way of playing.And you know what? It’s boring.Allen to Agger to Skrtel to Agger to Johnson to Agger to Allen……
And we need to stop playing 4 – 3 – 3 against the better teams,we are not good enough to play ultra possession football and perform against good teams.Hence are awful record this season of no wins in the league against any of the top 10 in the league table.High pressuring 4 – 2 – 3 – 1 with quick counter attacking is what is needed.
Bring Benetiz back.
Fed up of ‘bring Benitez back’.
Precisely that sort of knee jerk reaction that got Benitez sacked in the first place. Just shut up.
I won’t shut up Jonny.
Benitez has a proven track record as a top class manager,what achievements has Rodgers got in football? He didn’t even build that Swansea team he just took over when they already had most things in place.
Rodgers record against good teams is awful.I miss the days when even if we had a average team we would press the opposition all over the pitch and fight to the death.
I am a Liverpool supporter and I have the right to point how that Rodgers is a average manager,Allen is a average player,Wisdom is rubbish as a fullback,Gerrard is way past it and wouldn’t be starting for any top 4 team,Borini looks awful for £12 million,Reina is finished,kenny and I spell his name without using a capital letter because that’s how much I don’t respect him.He has ruined this club twice,first time when he left us with an ageing squad in the 90’s and this time when he wasted £100 million on SHITE.Unforgivable.
And I have my right to say my opinion which is this bullshit super possession football is booooring and doesn’t work because we have shite players compared to Barcelona.I will stop watching if we keep passing it along the defense all game because Rodgers is stubborn and too much of an idealist to get the best out of this group of largely average players.
Stop talking rubbish, we lost to the best team in the league by a country mile and suddenly every player we have is utterly useless. Rodgers is doing alright, its a massive rebuilding job that he has and we’re slowly stepping in the right direction.
Also, your claim that Wisdom is rubbish is ridiculous, he is 19 and had a decent game yesterday, Kagawa hardly touched the ball. Gerrard has 10 assists this season, more than anyone in the league, clearly he’s miles past it (not). Reina was poor at the start of the season but is now good again, and I agree that Allen is a fairly average player, but your claim that he is can’t defend is nonsense, he has won the ball back more than anyone else this year. Look at this if you don’t believe me. http://www.whoscored.com/Blog/nfjguoozpumzj-wg7xluca/Show/Player-Focus-Premier-Possession-Winners
We should have played Sturridge from the start yesterday, but thats easy with hindsight.
Stopped reading when you said wisdom had a decent game,he was at fault for the goal and he offers absolutely nothing going forward.
Don’t reply to him, it’s an obvious ABL troll pretending to be a Liverpool supporter.
Also I forgot to mention is Joe Allen defensively one of the worst midfielders to ever play the game?
He is just so slow,weak and aggressive.He covers hardly any ground at all when we are defending,players can just run past him and he barely even reacts,like the opposition player is a couple of yards in front of him and 1 or 2 yards to the side of him,the player can just run straight ahead and past him without Allen even putting a challenge in.
And on the ball he has no creativity or end product at all.
£15 MILLION.Think about that. 15 million pounds for this piece of mediocrity.
http://www.whoscored.com/Blog/nfjguoozpumzj-wg7xluca/Show/Player-Focus-Premier-Possession-Winners
All I want to say.
Love it Alex! Thing is, the chavs won’t let the facts get in the way of a good story. Let ‘em rant. It’s all they got to look forward to in life – pub, pints and prattling on to the pals.
These arguments sound a lot like the ones levelled at Carrick, deep-lying playmakers/’geometric passers’ (italian moniker) are just not appreciated by most fans.
Allen is shit,shit on the ball and off it.Just go on Rawk and look in Allens thread.I am not the only one who thinks he’s shit.Offers absolutely nothing to the team.
Oh for pity’s sake, just can it. If you were really any good at football, as opposed to shooting your mouth off, you’d be down at the local rec coaching teams and getting your badges. Then you’d be at a pro club proving to all of us how awesome your abilities are. But you’re not, are you?
It was funny watching this game. It was obvious carrick was the keyman for mu and I was waiting for pressure on him but it never came
have to laugh at some pundits who slag Sturridge. they completely dismiss his stint at Bolton as if scoring for bottom 10 PL clubs..is somehow easier…as if being out of the spotlight is easy…but playing for small teams that don’t dominate poss’n and create tons of chances like big 4 or 6 sides do isn’t a big disadvantage. 8 in 12 PL games he got at bolton… including 4 in his first 4 PL games. the following season he still got into double figures PL goals with chelsea..despite playing wider and with drog & torres as the main men. 2 in 2 he now has for liv’pool. didn’t demba ba look impressive for west ham when he first signed for them ? of course he did. the lesson is…if you’re doing it for small PL club, doing it for big club is “generally” easier. reverse example..ngog..looked pretty poor at anfield…think he’ll do it at bolton with a step down??…no…still not doing it..last yr in PL OR even in ch;ship. there will always be the odd exception of course ( disclaimer..lol )
I don’t know, Bolton were are a bit direct so Sturridge would have been getting more opportunities then at a team that play a more balanced approach. Anyway 8 from 12 is such a small sample size that its hard to draw much conclusions from it other than he hit a little purple patch. Im not saying he can’t be great, just that we don’t KNOW yet. My big problem is his greediness, if hes going to play in Liverpools system he’ll have to adapt his game and link up play more (like Defoe has done).
I think the response to “Why did Brendan Rodgers get it wrong from the get-go?” is very simple. United went with a lineup and tactic that was surprising given how they normally play. No one would’ve predicted that set-up before the game started, even if you saw the starting XI. Liverpool probably would’ve been fine if United had sat deep.
Great analysis, one of your best ZM.
The gulf between Suarez and the midfield three was startling, Liverpool were crying out for a no. 10 to link up play. Perhaps the long-term solution is for Liverpool to change their default formation to the one they used in the second half, with Suarez as the no. 10/inside forward and Sturridge as the lone forward.
I thought United lost a lot of steam when Young got hurt. What was it…around the 35th minute or so? Up until that point Carrick had three options for his pass; Welbeck coming back, Kagawa moving from left to right or Young moving from right to left. The 4 central liverpool players were just overwhelmed! (Plus I had to double check to see if Gerrard was playing! Didn’t hear a thing from him during the first 1/3!)
Sterling wasn’t doing a good job tracking Rafael back and so Johnson didn’t know whether to come inside with Young or pick up Rafael on the overlap. Once Young lost mobility is when United lost its edge. I remember thinking after the restart that they looked really flat all of a sudden, kind of like they were just limping to the break.
The second goal was fortunate and it was good to see the dam hold (to some degree) in terms of defense. Valencia looks really shaky out there. I never really thought I’d say this but I miss Nani because Utd needs another winger.
Rodgers could have moved Gerrard to the most advanced mid in the first to close down Carrick with Allen then tracking Cleverley and keeping an eye on Kagawa. I really don´t know how Rodgers visions his midfield.
Allen seem to be trying to close down the space that Carrick and Cleverley where operating in and Gerrard didn´t seem to be tasked to mark anyone except Kagawa along with Downing and Wisdom , he just jogged around in the same area seemingly not tasked with any defensive responsibilities for the entire first half when United had possesion.
Even if Henderson with a greater engine and physicality instead of Lucas or Allen it would have been fruitless with this pattern as he would have to be as fast as Usain Bolt to cover that space.
It worries me if A:Gerrard was told to play that way
B: That Gerrard didn´t expect United to press so much and didn´t know what to do.
C: That he doesn´t have the stamina to play in that manner and D: That Rodgers might not have been able to give the players instructions in game. He got it spot on in the second half playing Suarez in the adv.mid role closing down Carrick so Allen and Gerrard could easily deal with Cleverley and push forward.
After that happened United were ineffective except on few ocassions on the counter. This is something that needs to be fixed with City and Arsenal fixtures coming up who like United can keep up with prolonged periods of pressing. Appreciate any thoughts on this, especially if I missed something that can explain the situation.
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