Fiorentina 0-0 Juventus: home side dominate in a clash of similar systems

The starting line-ups
3-5-2 versus 3-5-2, and one point apiece.
Vincenzo Montella made three changes. The most significant involved him selecting the industry of Romulo over the creativity of Mati Fernandez. Adem Ljajic came in for Haris Seferovic, and Manuel Pasqual for Mattia Cassani.
Antonio Conte and Massimo Carrera decided to rest Claudio Marchisio, with Emanuele Giaccherini starting instead. Fabio Quagliarella replaced Mirko Vucinic after his impressive impact in the last couple of games.
Fiorentina were the better side but struggled in front of goal, with Juventus seemingly happy with a point.
Formations
This was a very ‘obvious’ tactical battle. The two sides set out very similarly – three centre-backs, energetic wing-backs expected to cover a lot of ground, a clearly-defined regista spreading the play, two central midfielders ahead doing battle, then a nippy support forward dropping off the main striker.
When four-man midfields play ahead of three centre-backs, they’re necessarily more conservative than when playing ahead of a back four, because the wide players have to defend the flanks more keenly. When two of these midfields face each other, the result is generally a cagey battle. To use a chess analogy, it’s as if all sixteen pawns have been moved two spaces forward, and there’s a mass block either side of the halfway line. There’s space in defensive positions, but little forward movement for the likes of David Pizarro and Andrea Pirlo (the queens?) to look for.
Creativity?
In such an identical clash of systems, there was concern about where the attacking drive and creativity in the final third would come from. In Pizarro and Pirlo the game had two of the finest deep-lying playmakers around, but the absence of both Marchisio and Fernandez meant the central midfield zone was otherwise functional. Borja Valero is a fine passer and showed good ability to play one-twos and move into dangerous positions, but Arturo Vidal’s role was mainly defensive, with Fiorentina dominating possession. Romulo and Giaccherini were runners.
The home side were better on the ball, moving it quicker across the midfield – but the primary cause for their dominance was simply their ambition, urged on by a packed Artemio Franchi. Juventus were cautious – the midfielders stayed in position, the wing-backs spent more time in their own half.
Fiorentina also started off more compact, with Ljajic and Stevan Jovetic dropping deep and helping defend – Juve’s forwards started in a more relaxed manner, although eventually did the same.
Ljajic and Giovinco
The key to the game was getting the two support forwards involved. Ljajic and Sebastian Giovinco are not dissimilar players – part-winger, part-playmaker. Because of that ability to play wide, they both offer good lateral movement, and both drifted into good positions towards the flanks, with the main strikers contained by the back threes. In one minute shortly before half-time, long balls towards first Giovinco and then Ljajic got both into promising positions – Giovinco miscontrolled, Ljajic dragged his shot wide of the far post from the game’s most promising opportunity.
In Facundo Roncaglia, Fiorentina had the centre-back most willing to step forward and join the midfield battle, and another thing Montella’s side did better was getting their main striker involved. Quagliarella’s movement was poor and he was the first player to be withdrawn, while Jovetic dropped deeper and had a bigger impact, providing another passing option and getting into the box.
Second half
Frustratingly, for a game between two well-matched sides, there was no real tactical progression. At the start of the second half Ljajic seemed to play deeper, occupying Pirlo more than in the first half. This made him less of a direct attacking threat, although he sped past Pirlo when Fiorentina got the ball, and Carrera was concerned enough to remove Pirlo and introduce Paul Pogba, who tracked Ljajic’s runs much more effectively. Vucinic replaced Quagliarella, Marchisio replaced Giaccherini – both attacking moves, but this changed little because Juve weren’t getting the ball forward.
Ljajic was nullified by Pogba, so Montella brought on Fernandez in his place, trying to provide more creativity. He waited until 77 minutes to make the first change, though, and his final two substitutions were in the last five minutes – indicating he was happy with his side – with the exception of their inability to find a finish.
Conclusion
A goalless draw was never assured as Fiorentina went close on an number of occasions, but the 0-0 was always a possibility simply because of the lack of attacking players in the final third. Giovinco and Ljajic were given huge creative responsibility – Ljajic was brighter yet typically frustrating, offering good movement and clever dribbling, but being booked for diving and missing the game’s best chance.
Fiorentina were more positive and better in almost every area. Pizarro outshone Pirlo, the wing-backs played higher up the pitch, the two forwards were more involved, there was more attacking urgency from the centre-backs.
Juve were underwhelming, but illustrated why they’re on such a long unbeaten run with a battling, committed display.
Fiorentina 0-0 Juventus: home side dominate in a clash of similar systems





Good analysis though I think you underplay the technical dominance Fiorentina demonstrated. I suppose that lies somewhere to the side of the tactical battle but it’s the reason why the Viola 3-5-2 emerged superior.
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Currenly Fioretina are a tough side,may be taugher to beat that Milan and Inter.They have bought very good playes and we should not forget Jovetic-he has scored in every match so far.Thus Fiorentina were eager to beat Juve due to transfer issues and etc.
All this considered Juve should be happy with the point.You can’t win in every match and the most importantly they are still unbeaten.
Great analysis, as always Michael. However, I do agree with QS that Fiorentina was technically superior last night.
Incredible how a team that looked, well frankly – sad, at the beginning of July now looks like this. After signing no less than 18 players, 6 games into the season Fiorentina looks like they’ve been playing together for much longer. Shame Berbatov didn’t come. Or at least, shame he didn’t refuse Fiorentina earlier, so that Prade & Macia had time to focus on someone else. But hey, you can’t have it all.
Pizarro amazes me, such a great and shockingly underrated player by a lot of people. borja Valero… Still don’t understand how he came to Fiorentina, he could play in a strong CL team no problems [for example, how it didn't occur to Milan to sign him, for only 7 millions?!]
Juve, however, is clearly stronger team. They can win [or at least not lose] when they are outplayed. Fiorentina outplays everyone and still doesn’t win often. Lot of work ahead of Montella, but early signs are very encouraging.
I didn’t like what Conte did with Giaccherini and Asamoah. I think it would be better for if Giac played as wing back, and Asamoah in the middle, but I thank him for doing that in any case
“I think it would be better for if Giac played as wing back, and Asamoah in the middle”
For real. Or, they could insert Isla in place of Giac as a wingback, still moving Asamoah into the middle.
Juve is amazingly deep, it seems like they have tons of guys who can play on the bench – Pepe, Matri, Isla, De Ceglie, Caceres, Lucio, usually Quagliarella… it’s just impressive.
As for Fiorentina, I can’t fathom why (1) they loaned out Vargas or (2) they’re not playing Mati Fernandez more. And you’re right, getting Valero was a great move for them.
Vargas has been shit for years now.
Yeah, your not kidding
Yeah, I suppose you’re right. I mean, 8 assists in 28 games for club and country in the last season while being played by his club at every position under the sun and never being allowed to gather momentum, 4 goals and 5 assists in Serie A 2010-11 – obviously he’s shit.
I didn’t say he is shit,I said he has been shit the last few years,especially at club level.Learn how to comprehend writing you dumb fucck.
More importantly, he had problems with behavior and as he said himself, didn’t have any motivation to stay at Fiorentina. They’ve let both him and Cerci leave because of their problematic behavior.
If he plays like he can, he’ll be fantastic signing for Genoa, no doubt about that.
Very good article, again. I think Juve should change the system from times to times. They could play 4-2-3-1, with pogba pirlo as 2 defensive midfielders, Bendtner lone striker, Giovinco Atacking mid, isla asamoah on the wings and Licth de ceglie full backs and they would win the match.
Juve will now switch to 4-2-3-1.It may be 4-3-3 or 4-1-4-1 but not 4-2-3-1.
One aspect you didn’t really touch on in depth – it was mentioned briefly – is how well Fiorentina’s wing-backs/wide midfielders pushed their Juventus counterparts back, give Pirlo even less options in possession. There was one occasion when he played the ball wide to where he would have imagined Asamoah to be, but Asamoah wasn’t there as he was too concerned about leaving space in behind for Cuadrado to attack.
I will be interested to see if Conte/Carrera changes formation against Roma as 3-5-2 rarely works effectively against a 4-3-3 – especially one as attacking as Zeman’s.
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and Massimo Carreradecided to…”i dont think juventus played the way that you are showing in your diagram . because giachhereni stayed high up the pitch all the time and i saw him rarely coming back in their half . next i was struggling to find who are the proper forwards for fiorentina because without the ball nearly all the fiorentina players were getting behind the ball so it was a problem for me because by your diagram jovetic was playing as a forward but he was always dropping back to get the ball and was linking very well with the midfielders . fiorentina’s did passed crisply but the main thing was whenever the ball was going there wasnt a single fiorentina players who would try to get to the end of it .
i think fiorentina countered juventus tactics . they played deep because of which neither quigrella and giovinco didnot had that space to run behind the defense since juventus main offense is very central and they depend on those through balls . at times i dont know but juventus were going for long balls from back which were totally useless since there was not much space to run since fiorentina were playing deep . juventus were seen to slow down the game although you had said in your post that there was not much space in the middle but i think there was but juventus players were keen to get high up the pitch as soon as possible rather than build and more importantly juventus wingbacks were nicely marked by fiorentina’s wingbacks battle between asamoah and cuadrado . all and all had fiorentina had somebody forward for finishing then things would had been different .
u used the word chess analogy somewhere in the post let me tell you chess and football are quite different ( i wouldnt go on explaining it but get this the human element is the one which seperate chess from football . although there are similarities but individual personalities are the ones which make the difference .
Pizzaro reminded me again how good a player he is and Lajic what a diving little cunt he is on the field (which makes sense since he is a little puke off it).
I laughed at Pogba replacing Pirlo because of all the United farts who were claiming that Pogba was a totally useless player once he decided to leave. The lad did pretty well int he 15mins he played.
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Givinco struggles in Juve’s system because he needs space, he is too easily pushed off the ball.
Claudio Marchisio does make this team a lot better. I’m surpised they didn’t move Asamoah inside and put De Ceglle on the outside for a try in this game.
Some nice product placing here….good article though.Fiorentina look very good now,hope they keep Jovetic for a few more years.
Its a shame Asamoah is playing as a left wingback. He is a solid midfielder with a good technique. But actually he looks comfortable in his new role. Meanwhile Fiorentina could do with a targetman- a Prima Punta. Berbatov was a good choice too but it dint happen. Same with Juventus. Dont think Bendtner is good enough for them, though he does wins balls in the air and provides flick ons.
Juventus-Roma will be explosive as well as Fiorentina-Inter. Looking forward to those matches
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Montella has done great things in Fiorentina. I do not know why we in Roma did not hired him as a coach. He is great, smart and ambitious. I still remember him benching Totti in his first match as a Roma coach. Same with Pizzaro? Why did we sell him when we have no tipical regista in Roma.
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Montella is an excellent coach ……Catania and now at Fiorentina…..Fiorentina have collected a gud group of players and an excellent tactically aware coach……they could be up there comeend of the season.
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