Euro 2012 preview: Holland

Holland's probable starting line-up
After a reputation for playing beautiful football was undermined by Holland’s brutal performance in the 2010 World Cup final, Holland’s strategy in the past two years has been an interesting balancing act – Bert van Marwijk wants to look as if he’s moved on to a more open style of football, but remains reluctant to abandon the structure and functionality that took Holland to the World Cup final in the first place.
Despite retaining roughly the same core of players, Holland are a more attractive side than two years ago. They hold onto the ball for longer periods, and the circulation of the ball is quicker.
van Bommel partner?
But there remains a great debate about the style of play, and discussion about Mark van Bommel’s midfield partner is effectively a microcosm of the wider debate about the overall ideology of the side. Inevitably, Johan Cruyff has been keen to give his view:
“The problem with two holding midfielders is quite simple, but somehow many coaches don’t see it. The build up happens too slow – holding midfielders always need that extra touch, always need to have a look when they have the ball already. That takes time away. The opponent can position themselves to stop the killer pass and the forwards are all marked. Plus, having two holding midfielders means there is one less creative playmaker. It’s a double edged sword…we need one good controller in midfield and two creative players on the wide midfield spots, like Barcelona does…if our build up is slow, the effectiveness of our creative forwards will decrease significantly. Robin van Persie got a lot of criticism last World Cup, and I believe it was because we played to defensively and passively. We became a counter team. Our best players are up front, though. They need the ball, and they need it quick.”
Van Bommel’s place in the team is assured. His partner at the 2010 World Cup was another holder, Nigel de Jong. His karate kick into the chest of Xabi Alonso was the single most memorable example of Holland’s force in the final, and when another strong tackle (although it wasn’t deemed a foul) broke the leg of Hatem Ben Arfa in a Premier League game, van Marwijk dropped him from the Holland squad. ”It was a wild and unnecessary offence. He went in much too hard,” he said.
That strange decision was an attempt to improve Holland’s footballing reputation. The other two options for that role were, happily, much more forward-thinking players. Rafael van der Vaart often played there against weaker sides, and van Marwijk won the World Cup semi-final against Uruguay by gambling and putting van der Vaart on for de Jong at half-time. Van der Vaart would be the choice of his fellow players and probably the Dutch public too, but van Marwijk will find it difficult to field such an anarchic player in a deep position against quality opposition.
The other option is Kevin Strootman, the young PSV midfielder who made his international debut last year. He appears the perfect compromise – he’s not a defensive midfielder like De Jong, nor an attacking midfielder like van der Vaart. He sits deep and sprays the ball across the pitch, keeping the tempo high and providing a quick initial pass into the front four with his left foot. He started the final four qualification games, but also played in the 3-0 friendly defeat to Germany in November, when he and van Bommel were unable to cope with the constant waves of German attack through the centre of the pitch. He was removed after an hour, with de Jong brought on to provide defensive strength.
Strootman’s problem (and also van der Vaart’s) is that Holland have been drawn in such a tough group, with Portugal, Germany and Denmark. As the Dutch football site 11Tegen11 points out, the defensive approach of two holding midfielders is used against strong sides, while van Marwijk prefers to play with a deep-lying playmaker against weaker opposition. In such a tough group, de Jong seems likely to get the nod. He’s started the four friendlies since Strootman’s outing against Germany, and after all this fuss, Holland will play the same central midfield combination that started throughout the World Cup. As a result, their football will be more structured than fluid.
Striker?
That’s not the only debate in the side. Upfront, despite Robin van Persie being the clear first-choice at the World Cup, and being in sensational form over the last 18 months, his position has faced a challenge from Klaas-Jan Huntelaar, who enjoyed a brilliant Bundesliga campaign with Schalke. Van Persie wouldn’t have been dropped – he could have been moved wider.
But in the recent friendly against Bulgaria, the use of both players resulted in a poor performance and a 2-1 defeat. It would be nice to get Huntelaar into the side, but structurally it doesn’t seem possible without moving van Persie – who remains the superior player – into a role he’s less comfortable in. Therefore, van Persie will start with Huntelaar on the bench.
Left winger?
Here there are three options, who all offer something very different. There is Dirk Kuyt, who offers the most defensive protection (which is important, as Holland lack a reliable left-back, which will be discussed shortly), and his ability to play deep alongside the two holding players in the World Cup final gave Arjen Robben the freedom to effectively become a second striker – which should have won Holland that game, had Robben not squandered two great one-on-one chances. The balance Kuyt provided shouldn’t be underestimated.
Then, there’s van der Vaart. Unlikely to start in the wide role and with Wesley Sneijder a certainty in his favoured number ten position, the possibility of playing van der Vaart on the left is appealing – with Robben more direct on the right, having a player who can move infield and become a ’second number ten’ alongside Sneijder gives Holland another playmaking option. That’s especially important, of course, if they’re playing a static defensive-minded duo deep in midfield. But the problem is that Sneijder himself likes to drift to the left, and Holland would risk having roughly the same type of player doing the same job.
Therefore, it seems that Holland’s left-sided player will instead be a proper winger, Barcelona’s Ibrahim Afellay. He spent most of the campaign injured, and hasn’t played a full game for a year – but looks likely to start, bringing a system of two wingers stretching the play. His performance in the final pre-tournament friendly against Northern Ireland secured his place – two goals and an assist.
Left-back?
This is the real problem area. Giovanni van Bronckhorst has retired and is the only player from Holland’s first-choice World Cup XI not to be in the current squad. His natural replacement was PSV’s Erik Pieters, but his foot injury ruled him out of the tournament. Instead, van Marwijk will probably select Jetro Willems, Pieters’ club back-up. He’s an excellent prospect – fast and technical – but is 18, inexperienced and was uncapped until two weeks ago.
The only alternative is Stijn Schaars, ten years older and more combative, but a holding midfielder, although he is left-footed. This creates another, unwanted debate about the more appropriate style of player.
Elsewhere
Aside from these debates, Holland are unchanged from the World Cup. The defence is relatively weak, although critics said that two years ago and they performed admirably. This weakness, however, is another reason for van Marwijk selecting two holders.
The final questions are about the roles of van Persie and Sneijder, who effectively play as a front two. Van Persie didn’t perform particularly well as a goalscorer at the World Cup (partly because he wasn’t 100% fit after a long injury lay-off) and spent much of the time holding the ball up and assisting others. “In the whole World Cup, I was only put [through] in front of the keeper four or five times,” he complains. “Cesc [Fabregas] did it four or five times a match.” The role of Holland’s forward is not about poaching – and van Persie has increasingly become a poacher at club level – but about playing as a team player. He has no problems doing that, it’s just a case of whether he has become accustomed to being a penalty box player.
Equally, the reason Sneijder wasn’t putting him through on goal was because he, with five goals, was Holland’s main goalscoring threat, despite the fact his goalscoring record at Inter was average. Since then, his role at Inter under various coaches has become extremely confused – and although he generally performs well for Holland, it’s still an odd situation.
Finally, Holland have great options from the bench. Huntelaar, Kuyt, van der Vaart and Strootman will be options, as will clever centre-forward Luuk de Jong and explosive winger Luciano Narsingh. It feels like at least one of those ‘different options’ will be needed in each game.
Conclusion
A marginally more attractive footballing side than in 2010, but a less secure, stable starting XI means Holland are arguably a weaker team. In such a tough group, van Marwijk will go for two holding midfielders and is unlikely to change that in the knockout stage, which Holland will expect to qualify for. With each position having two contenders who interpret the role very differently, this is all about finding the right balance between defence and attack.
Quick guide
Coach – Bert van Marwijk
Formation – Basically a 4-2-3-1, though the position of the wingers and Sneijder hint at a 4-2-1-3 at times
Key player – Wesley Sneijder
Strength – A plethora of attacking options
Weakness – A slightly dodgy defence, and a tendency to pass too slowly when two defensive midfielders are used
Key tactical question – Who partners van Bommel?
Key coach quote – “A good team plays within a certain structure. You hear coaches say their team can play four or five different systems but I don’t think that’s realistic. What you can do is vary the details – that way, we can make life difficult for our opponents.”
Betfair odds: 8.0 (7/1)
Recommended bet: van Persie to outscore Huntelaar at 1.45
Further reading: David Winner’s excellent book Brilliant Orange, the very promising iPad magazine Orange Crush and the Dutch tactics site 11Tegen11



Sorry to be a pedant but the recent friendly was against Bulgaria, not Hungary.
That’s correct.In Bulgaria we were very surprised by this win.That’s because our national team is one of the weakest teams in Europe for the last years.We played exactly like Chelsea-defensive(4-4-1-1 when in defence),counter-attacking with Manolev in the role of Ramires.We exploited their left flank,so I think this is the Holland weakest point.
Moreover,if Denmark play like Bulgaria did(which I think they will do),Holland will have serious problems.
Wouldn’t Schaars be a better compromise for the 2nd holding midfield position? He’s not as hard as De Jong, but a much better passer. He’s not as creative as Strootman/VDV, but much better positionally and defensively. Also, a left footed Schaars provides cover on the left, allowing them to utilize a much more attacking left winger
Schaars will probably be their starting left back
Whatever Cruyff and the other Dutch romantics say, Holland would get thrashed if they played a 4-3-3 or a more offensive formation. Their defence inhibits their offence; none of the four defenders would get into the Spanish, German, French, Italian or even the English team, including the over-rated van der Wiel. Where they have strength though is the defensive midfield position with van Bommel, de Jong, Schaars and Strootman.
One interesting option could have been putting van Bommel in defence, de Jong to protect the back four and have van der Vaart or Strootman play a deep lying creator. But Marwijk has been successful with a particular set up, it would be crazy to change things so close to a tournament. I think they will lose out to Spain in the Semi Final.
John Heitinga would possibly start for all of those teams except Germany; he had an excellent season at Everton once he got a run of matches as a central defender (instead of the holding midfield role David Moyes had been using him in).
um… joris mathijsen plays for malaga cf, who are in the champions league as forth in la liga, which is in spain.before he went to malaga cf, he was at hamburg in germany
even if van der wiel was overrated, valencia and real madrid wanted him. (bayern munich was only team not impressed with him)
they had maduro who was not selected, was injured at valencia and got signed by sevilla,
erik pieters before being injured, is wanted by newcastle united in england.
then you have john heitinga, voted everton player of the year, and had a great year playing for a English team. Really awesome year, although years before he was very shaky, although before he went to everton he was playing at athletico madrid!!! starting almost every game!!!!
yeah, i don’t think you watch closely enough. Buddy
fact is, they can play in those leagues, and are a very underrated backline, who have a great defensive record
Dawgg, I love these previews, especially when I find myself agreeing with you. You have much knowledge and you spread it out in a admirable way. It’s very easy to see that you love what you write about, and that you’re very skilled as well.
I’ve found a brilliant add-on to Chrome, so I can postpone all your previews. It’ll be some brilliant reads when I get time to read them all.
Thank you for doing this.
Did you mean Dog??
Does it matter how I greet people? If so, I’m sorry, and I’ll change “dawgg” to “Sir”.
I’m going against the trend but I think Holland might struggle to get out of the group. They just seem to be a weaker side that got to the WC final and even then they were very lucky to get that far. I think they have a good defense, apart from the LB situation, which could leave a clear weak link for other teams to exploit.
I think the bigger problem is further forward. In midfield, De Jong seems likely to play, but neither he or Van Bommel are good on the ball. This will be a problem as Holland are one of the Favorites now and will be expected to break down teams (bar Germany and Spain). I am a big fan of Strootman and really think he should play, ZM gave a great description of him and he is exactly what Holland needs. I would disagree with VDV playing there as he lacks the discipline.
Then going forward I don’t think Holland are a strong. Van Persie will arguably be the best striker at the tournament, but he doesn’t seem to get on with the rest of the attack and has yet to reach the standards of his club form. Sneijder is in poor form and is in the team on reputation solely. Robben has come off a good season, and will get good support from van der wiel, but the CL final has shown how to defend against him. Afellay could surprise but it is a lot of pressure on such an inexperienced player, who can struggle to get involved at times.
I think Holland will be somewhat solid defensively and threaten down the right through Robben. But they will struggle to break down teams and have some clear problems like: an inexperienced left side, an out of form Sniejder and the drama of having so many ego’s in the squad to satisfy. Therefore I think Portugal could pip Holland to second place.
Having followed the Bundesliga season closely, I would content the statement that Robben has had a good season. He’s been criticized a lot for playing too egoistical, and that’s a result of him not having been effective anymore. He’s a one-trick pony essentially (though very good at that trick), and lots of Bundesliga sides have found their way of defending against him. The Dortmund games are probably the best examples, but lots of other sides have been good at taking him out of the game as well. In addition to that, Robben has regularly made crucial mistakes in crucial matches lately (not converting penalties and huge chances to score).
You clearly haven’t watched Van Bommel much and have just relyed on the medias lazy description of him as just a ‘thug’.Van Bommels is very good on the ball for a DM,watch him and you will see how comfortable he is.Do you think if he had poor technique and passing he would have ever played for Barca?
I agree he’s not as bad as people say, and he’s certainly alot better than De Jong although that’s not saying a great deal.
He played for Barcelona before Pep’s complete, total dedication to ball players though.
I didn’t mean to come across as that harsh, he is obviously a talented footballer. He is fine for a counterattacking team as the world cup showed. But Holland are big favorites now and will be expected to break down teams, I dont think a midfield partnership or Van Bommels and De Jong have the passing ability to pull this off.
not only have they not watched van bommel, does anyone remember the year before he left to barcelona he was an amazing, attacking midfielder who scored 14 goals!! yes not a mistake, fourteen goals
and then at barcelona, he became this great positional awareness, stop the other teams play time of guy who commands the team well, and intercepts lots of balls. and started diving, and fouling pretty hard
the real thing is who at barcelona taught van bommel and busquets, those guys play almost identical, except busquets is younger so has an edge in speed
Even more so then that Holland could really struggle at this tournament. I think he can still be dangerous with the help of Van der viel overlapping, but your definitely right in saying he has become predictable in his play. I also find for him to play well, Van persie has to take second stage and create space for him, resulting in Van persie not playing at hist best standard.
“But the problem is that Sneijder himself likes to drift to the left, and Holland would risk having roughly the same type of player doing the same job.”
But wouldn’t it be good, because Sneidjer drifting to the left and vdV drifting to the center could swap the places often?
It has been tried a number of times, including during the first two World Cup matches, but it just doesn’t work, they often take up exactly the same spaces. A better solution would be Van der Vaart as a ten and Sneijder on the left flank (this was used during Euro 2008), but this is not going to happen, as Van Marwijk is determined to build his team around Sneijder.
It’s a pity Clarence Seedorf was forced out of the national side so soon. He’s exactly the type of deeper lying playmaker Holland needs as opposed to the double defensive pivot.
A Dutch side with Van der Vaart, Sneijder, Seedorf, and Robben would be unbelievable to watch.
Holland can easily produce Pirlo/Busquets mold midfielders. Where are they?
Stijn Schaars and Kevin Strootman are in that mold.
Much less creative and technical, much more ‘functional’. For all the hype around Strootman, I think he’s more likely to become the new Van Bommel than the Dutch Xabi Alonso, whom I’ve seen Strootman compared to by foreign press. If you want to talk about talented young Dutch deep-lying playmakers, Jordy Clasie is the real prodigy.
It baffles me that we don’t see more Seedorf types in the Holland selection. Sneijder could be that sort of player, but his club/personal situations have always been far too tumultuous for such development. Seedorf, Xavi and Pirlo all settled into highly cultured footballers. I suppose it isn’t quite too late for Sneijder, but he probably lacks the necessary composure.
Holland struggle with something you’d think would be a strength given their history with creative talent and a high offside trap, deep ball players.
yeah, if I were van Marwijk I would have *begged* Seedorf to join the team.
So Holland feels that they need to play de Jong essentially because their defenders aren’t good enough without two defensive midfielders.
I recall the Total Football teams to be pretty solid defensively as well as skilled in attack. Thus, it’s sort of ironic now that the Dutch team as a whole has to play more defensively — not because they’re weak in attack or can’t possess the ball, but because they can’t defend
I found the “Inevitably, Johan Cruyff has been keen to give his view” statement quite funny.
A great report, Michael. Being Dutch I of course do have a point to complain about though, in this case the lack of praise for Afellay. His inclusion on the left wing is a certainty and he has outshone all his teammates in every Oranje game he played since joining Barcelona, both before and after his injury. He has a great understanding with Van Persie [the striker admitted their feeling is similar to the connection he had with Fabregas at Arsenal] and with Robben arguably one dimensional at times I think Afellay can providea spark by directly and agressively taking on opponents.
i didnt saw their defeat to germany or bulgaria but the real problem with dutch is if the ball played from the back to front very quickly then they can be caught . you could see how barca bilbao in the copa del rey final that way they bought the ball back to front vey quickly so that the team didnot had the time to organize . secondly the dutch back four are the opposite of their front four if the front four are class then the back four are very poor and teams will have space because van bommel cannot go and chase around players who will play in that hole so there is chance of exploitation by the opposition .
my rating in this group of death they are the ones who can go down .
Really interested to see Willems. The World Soccer preview has singled the left back slot as a problem area and it’s forward thinking of van Marwijk to go for a precocious youngster.
Isn’t Mathijsen left-footed?
If this is confirmed, then I believe he’s more likely to start left-of-centre, and Heitinga would be right-of-centre…
It’s a very little detail, since I don’t see anything else that could be criticized!
Thank you very much Michael for these great previews. They allow your readers to have a clear understanding of each team and its tactical matters, as if we were entering in the the mind of a first-class professionnal coach. And this is priceless for any football fan.
Do you guys think that Van Persie is the best bet on a top scorer for the Euro? What about Gomez and Benzema?
Thomas Mueller at 25/1
Benzema at 18/1
RVP at 10/1
Best bets for top goalscorer.
Gomez will need to play to score, and i think Klose is the man upfront…
I am expecting Lewandowski to tear up group A and seal the golden shoe before knock outs even began :p
Don’t take RVP. His odds aren’t great, his team might not even make it out of the group with their defence and he has never been a great player for Netherlands. I would go for Benzema personally, probably better odds
Bert van Marwijk is clearly being influenced too much by the people of Holland, and also the footballing past of the country.
Holland of course have a reputation of total football, but there is more than one way to win football matches, and Holland’s best chance will be playing like they did at WC 2010, organised, disciplined, hard to beat. As has been said, soon as they tried something different, the Germans slaughtered them!
They’ve still got the scope to be a team that’s good to watch, the likes of Sneijder, Robben, RVP up top.
The battle to get out of Group B could be fascinating.
I don`t understand didn`t huntelaar outscore van persie this season with around 10 goals? Why does everyone prefer Van persie?
Van Persie actually scored more goals in a tougher domestic league, while those extra 10 goals came from Huntelaar stadpadding in the inferior UEFA cup, while van Persie played in the Champions’ League.
Furthermore, Huntelaar is a very limited player. Van Persie offers way more than him as a complete striker. The Goalpoaching era is dead.
You realize Van Persie was poor in the Cl this year like usual and only scored 2 goals?
It’s funny you mention the goalpoaching era is dead when essentially that’s what Van Persie is these days.
Van Persie does a lot more than goal poach. He heavily gets involved in build up play and covers a lot of distance during matches. He can score from range, is good in the air, can pick out a pass and score easy and hard goals. Easily one of the best strikers around right now.
He can, but I find he’s best sticking to one thing. Huntelaar also, if I’m not mistaken was far better in qualifying.
Furthermore, if Holland are to play on the break, Huntelaar’s aerial threat may help.
Although it would be sacrilegious, why don’t Holland just play Sneijder on the left and pair Van Persie with Huntelaar?
Van Persie could use Huntelaar as a foil to open up long shots and passes, while Sneijder can both play deeper to help them move the ball better out of deep positions and slot into a number ten position further forwards/when the ball goes to Robben. Van der Vaart would then be a natural sub for Sneijder, and Afellay the same on the right.
4-4-2 people, its the future!
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This. 4-4-2 would be for real.
I’m surprised you’d call the winger situation a “classic Dutch system”, because Afellay actually isn’t a natural winger but a central midfielder, and Robben is playing on the “wrong” side. A classic system would be one with Robben on the left and Narsingh on the right for example.
By opting for inverted wingers, Van Marwijk has knowingly taken Huntelaar out of the picture. In the only friendly Huntelaar started, Van der Vaart played on the left and Van Persie on the right, so it was completely predictable that he looked lost and useless. Compared to those two, Robben and Afellay are indeed brilliant at stretching the play, because they at least start outside and they don’t clog the centre all the time. Don’t expect them to actually go outside and put a cross in though.
I have the feeling Holland will win EC. I don’t THINK they will, but I have some kind of stupid feeling they will.
They will depend a lot on Sneijder. I don’t trust him, really. When he feels like playing, he’s among the best players in the world, but he was terrible at Inter for the most part of last 2 seasons. If he gets in that ‘I don’t give a shit’ mode, Holland will have a lot of problems
2 things:
1. Mathijsen is left footed and has been playing in the Dutch team as left central defender for nearly six years now. He is injured at the moment and was unable to play our last friendly game. He’s scheduled to start in the game against Denmark. As a left central defender. Heitinga always plays a right central defender in the Dutch national team.
2. The winger situation is far from ‘Classic’ Dutch. We play with inverted wingers, Robben and Affelay. Robben is left footed and Affelay right footed. In your chalkboard, this is barely reflected. Affelay will cut inside, and so will Robben. I fear congestion in the middle of the park, with Sneijder, Robben, Affelay, van Persie and van Bommel all looking to occupy the same space. Willems and van der Wiel will be looking to add width to this squad.
Ooh, you’re right on point 1. Not sure about point 2. Afellay stays quite wide considering he’s right-footed. Robben is shown as cutting in.
Afellay is very comfortable on either foot, and he has the right group mentality to “walk the chalk” as required.
Great preview. One thing I haven’t yet seen mentioned in a preview by a non-Dutch is that another reason that van Marwijk is choosing for Nigel de Jong instead of Strootman is that Strootman’s form toward the end of the season just wasn’t very good, while de Jong’s was picking up steadily.
It’s a shame Strootman was selected by van Marwijk, as Vurnon Anita was clearly the best defensive midfielder in the Eredivisie. I would have liked Anita as a sole holding midfielder in a 4-3-3.
I agree, although Strootman does have the potential, and was somewhat hampered by a PSV team that lost the plot in the last months.
And on that note…
KluivertsBoots posted:
“Holland can easily produce Pirlo/Busquets mold midfielders. Where are they?”
I think you mean a deep-lying playmaker, which describes Pirlo but not Busquets. Busquets is actually very similar to Anita.
As long as we’re discussing “the most Dutch system”, that actually makes perfect sense. In a 4-3-3 “with-the-point-backwards” (4-1-2-3) there is no deep-lying playmaker. The holding midfielder has mostly defensive duties and must let the centre backs start attacks by covering for them. He must have exceptional positional sense and must be really solid in possession. Busquets and Anita both provide this.
No, I’m talking about players in general who can distribute accurately from deeper positions. The 4-2-3-1 structure doesn’t allow for this type of player, and it is a huge flaw in the Dutch design. Central ball players have no place in a 4-2-3-1 unless certain dynamics are put into place. At the moment, only Germany truly have it figured out. The Xavis, Pirlos, Seedorfs, and Busquets of the world can’t function in 4-2-3-1.
Instead of using two shielders to cover weak CBs, Holland should instead use the third man concept- employing all ball players in three CM slots- with the deepest being the most positionally aware of the three.
It doesn’t take two screeners to protect back line frailties, it takes keeping the ball. The opposition can’t score when they don’t have the ball. One of the first things Pep Guardiola told Barcelona’s team when he arrived in 2009 was, “Gentleman, we are a disaster without the ball. A disastrous team. Therefore, when we lose the ball, we must recover it as quickly as possible and as far up the pitch as possible.”
Saysem said:
“By opting for inverted wingers, Van Marwijk has knowingly taken Huntelaar out of the picture. In the only friendly Huntelaar started, Van der Vaart played on the left and Van Persie on the right, so it was completely predictable that he looked lost and useless. Compared to those two, Robben and Afellay are indeed brilliant at stretching the play, because they at least start outside and they don’t clog the centre all the time. Don’t expect them to actually go outside and put a cross in though.”
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I think when playing with inverted wingers, they should start with van Persie as a striker. He is without a doubt a more complete and technical player, compared to Huntelaar. The ‘Hunter’ on the other side, is a fabulous striker with a good header. Check the video of the recent friendly against England. So if you play with real wingers, I would suggest putting the Hunter a striker. He will play deep, await his chances and score one out of every two chances. It would force Robben and Affelay to play in a more ‘serving’ role towards the striker. And because Hunter doesn’t draw back to the centre of the field, you don’t have to worry about “clogging the centre”.
Maybe Van Marwijk will start with van Persie the first hour. And if he doesn’t score, he will bring in Huntelaar. And the Wingers will change positions from inverted wingers to true wingers.
I am Dutch, and I can’t wait for the matches to begin. It’s both fear and anxiety. They can make it far, but then things have to fall in to place in the first match against Denmark. After that they will face Germany. It will be interesting to see if they will beat Porttugal in the first round. If Portugal will beat Germany in the first round, the Dutch can kick the Germans out of the group in the second round. And they will be happy to do so…
I think Holland’s strength’s would be best used with a system similar what Rodger’s is using (Swansea/ soon Liverpool) as seen here:
http://thepathismadebywalking.wordpress.com/2012/05/30/brendan-rodgers-tactical-approach-explanation-how-will-liverpool-implement-tiki-taka-football/
I realize he’s influenced by Spain who were influenced by the Dutch but still…
With this, I would see van Bommel, not De Jong, as the player to leave out. Use 1 holding mid who is — if not overly creative — good at shutting down attacks and shoring up the defense while he also has a 94% pass rate.
In front of him use Sneijder and either VdV or Strootman.
van der Wiel is ideal for the RB in this setup and Willems, while young, would get great experience going forward.
As for KJH or RVP, I’d go with KJB who is more of a target forward as he would have quality attacking options all around him. RVP — as great as he is — is most valuable in creating his own chances — which won’t be (as) required due to the quality of the attack. KJH would add that extra threat in addition to the attacking mids while RVP is (slightly) redundant.
Agreed. As posted above, that single holding mid you’re looking for is Vurnon Anita.
However, I do think that this system is harder to execute well, especially for a national team who don’t play together as much.
We should start against denmark with VD Vaart, they will defend like in WC.
Against Portugal and Germany we need De Jong though. Also, against North Ireland Affelay and Robben switched a lot and they looked more dangerous when they played on the ‘right’ flank.
Anyone else non-plussed by Holland’s defence? Weak compared to the other big dogs.
All big dogs are having weak defenses.
Spain has a black hole in the right with Arbeloa, and we all know the form of Pique. He might not even started in the first game, with Albiol taking his place. You can’t say that is a very strong defense line (Arbeloa-Albiol-Rammos-Alba). Maybe Busquets is a better choise.
Jogi Low insists to play with Boateng at the right and a very slow duo. That makes their defense too predictable. I can’t understand why he don’t use Badstuber on the left, with Boateng and Mertesacker (or Hummels) on the center and Lahm on the right (he and Muller could make an impact as Muller being a 2nd playmaker when Lahm does the overlap).
i mean man, what a ridiculous stuff, van der vaart was injured didn’t start the semi-final, nigel de jong and van der wiel didn’t play due to accumulated yellow card suspensions.
it was de zeeuw and van bommel.
and putting in van der vaart cost them the goal agains spain.
defense isn’t as weak as people are making it, only weakness is left back, if erik pieters was there, we’d be talking about one of the best defenses
if i was Van Marwijk i would play a 3-5-1 formation or a cruyff’s WM tactic(recently used by Pep’s Barcelona). Mathijsen-Van Bommel(Busquets role)-Heitinga at the back, De Jong with Strootman (or Shaars to cover Robben on the left) on the midfield with van der Wiel on the right (Daniel Alves) and Robben on the left wing. Sneijder could play as a false 10 or a false 9, that depends the striker in front. If he plays with RVP he could play the Cesc role, or he can play the false 9 role as Messi, with JKH playing like David Villa.
It turns out the main problem facing Bert is lack of teamwork. It was just 11 players in an orange shirt doing as they pleased on the field.