Mancini’s switch puts City close to the title

City's two midfield formats
It turned out to be the key substitution of the Premier League season. Samir Nasri off, Nigel De Jong on, and Yaya Toure higher up the pitch.
It wasn’t necessarily an attacking substitution or a defensive substitution – it changed the way City attacked, but there was no change in the emphasis upon attack or defence. There were still four players primarily to attack, and six to defend, with the full-backs pushing forward in both formations. There was a change of roles in midfield, with Gareth Barry becoming the shuttling player to move forward from the midfield duo, having previously been the deeper of the two holders.
The move worked excellently, with Toure getting the two crucial goals, but it was still a cautious change in the manner City attacked. Mancini felt the need to have two deep midfielders to protect Toure’s move into a number ten role, when many other coaches would have been happy with Barry holding and Toure free to drive forward and link up with the front four. That’s the way Jose Mourinho played late on with Inter during the 2009/10 campaign when his side desperately needed a goal – he moved from a system of two holders behind Wesley Sneijder in a 4-2-3-1, to a formation that was essentially a 4-1-1-4, with a huge split in the midfield and a clear separation of responsibilities between one holder and the number ten.
In that respect, Toure could have been deployed higher up, even without the introduction of De Jong to guard the defence. The frustrating thing about City’s play in the first half was that the two central midfielders sat so deep and didn’t break forward, presumably as Mancini wanted protection against Newcastle’s counter-attacks. But with Newcastle playing a straight 4-4-2 and Yohan Cabaye breaking from midfield rather than playing as an outright number ten, there could have been more fluidity. One incident in the first half demonstrated how City were suffering from that lack of drive – Pablo Zabaleta pulled the ball back, but with Toure and Aguero both in the six-yard box, the ball rolled harmlessly across edge of the box. Toure’s deployment higher up was probably needed sooner, so while Mancini deserves great credit for pushing Toure forward, it’s not inaccurate to say that it was a cautious way of doing so.
One of the key parts of Mancini’s substitution was the removal of Nasri, who was coming inside and eating into the space Toure should have been breaking into. The most natural move would have seen Nasri replaced with a wide player (Adam Johnson) to stretch the play and allow Toure forward. Mancini’s change actually achieved increased forward runs from the wing, in a sense, as Barry was shuttling forward – for Toure’s first goal that was particularly noticeable, to the left of the pitch.
But once City went ahead, the increased defensive protection was perfect for the task. City could sit with two holders ahead of the back four, and with Newcastle now coming onto them for the first time in the game, Toure’s drive high up the pitch was a threat on the break. He had a fine chance with a one-on-one he wasted, then scored the second goal to secure the three points. His versatility within the midfield zone proved crucial.





Brilliant Mancini this season!Tha last two matches showed his great tactical decision in crucial moments!
As good as Busquets is seeing Toure in this form, and with the CL semifinals results in mind, it’s hard not to start wondering again if letting Yaya go surely wasn’t a mistake on FCB’s behalf…
Toure is an immense player, but let’s not forget that Yaya and co crashed out of the Europa League.
Toure was great for Barcelona. People forget that he only left because he demanded a move. He wanted to be a guaranteed starter which was something that cannot be done in Barca’s midfield. Guardiola said back then that he wanted him to stay.
Busquets plays the Barca DM role better than Yaya does – it’s a more advanced mid you should be referring to instead.
Busquets responsibilities are almost exclusively defensive. Something which he does a lot better than Toure.
Disagree, Toure can do what Busquets does, but Busquets can never do what Toure does
Toure has more power and Busquets has more finesse. For charging the box Toure is better, for maintaining possession around the box Busquets is better.
I still don’t like Busquets though.
Busquets is vastly underrated. Not saying that Toure isn’t great though, but it’s like comparing the best orange with the best apple. Toure can never match the passing technique and defensive intelligence of Busquets (and we know what Busquets cannot match up to Toure). Plus, Busquets’ a prick for diving.. He really needs to improve on that to stop people (including me) hating on him
True but, Barca wanted a proper knife and not a swiss-knife!
Exactly.
When Barca were short a CB due to injury, Toure played there and did well IIRC.
Whereas if Barca were feeling stymied and looking for a goal, moving Busquets forward would never occur to their coach.
Does he even dive that much? I remember Inter but that was once, 2 years ago. Did he dive at all this year? I’m not saying he didn’t but I don’t recall.
Sergio Busquets is Catalan but Yaya Toure is not.
Sergio Busquets is Spanish while Yaya is African (think African Nations Cup (ANC) every 2 years).
Barca played well, with Sergio Busquets, when Yaya went to the ANC, Pep was not going to change a winning team and replace a Catalan with an African.
Yaya was under paid while at Barca so the move to City was blessing to fix this anomaly.
for the 24 million pounds they got for him I don’t think it was a mistake. They didn’t need him to continue breaking records or win the CL last year. He wouldn’t be playing a role anywhere near a number 10 in the barca team anyway because xaviesta and cesc and thiago are still in the team.
Yeah, as a holder he’s certainly no better than Busquets. He’s more suited to a counter-attacking team anyway with his drive.
he does have something different, a plan B maybe, that otherwise barca don’t have
Exactly, maybe he would be a better plan B than Ibrahimovic.
Do you think Toure would have been happy sitting on the bench all these years after been replaced by a 21 year old?
This plan B stuff is bullshit anyway,if they would have took their chances they would have easily beat Chelsea.And Inter only beat them by 1 offside goal.
Sometimes luck isn’t on your side,no matter how good your team is you can’t win everything.
The fact that Pep threw Keita on against Chelsea and had him play centrally shows that he doesn’t think the Plan B thing is bullshit.
I agree with PFOJ. Anybody who thinks they don’t ever need a plan B doesn’t deserve to win.
actually, his plan B was to push Pique up the field (as he has done previously with success). But seeing as he was unexpectedly injured and subbed off early in the first half, he had to go to his plan C.
Yeah, he would be a good player for any team to have but he wouldn’t get in the first team, at least not regularly because he’s not as good as the rest technically. He would give them more drive and physical presence though.
I have always thought that Toure’s decision to join City (instead of United, who were also deeply interested in him) would be an immensely crucial move. Since then, united always struggled in the derby matches. It gave city something unite didn’t have, a cm of strong physique, a more natural defensive midfielder. And Fletcher’s illness even furthered the problem… as shown in united exit in CL and even europa league, and two derby losses. SAF just failed to replace fletcher in matches where he was desperately needed. Park wasn’t a natrual cm, anderson had injuries as well as cleverly…
In fact, the two cl finals against barca could have been much better challenges if fletcher was available.
Fletcher could have helped overall but not against Barca,the outcome would have been the same.Fletchers good but they should be doing a lot better than him.
I don’t really believe the outcomes would have been changed. But loss of fletcher significantly damaged united in both finals, in Rome they had to start anderson who had been constantly poor in that season, at Wembley they were left without any tactical alternative, it made 4-5-1 impossible for united.
SAF saw Jones as a possible substitute for fletcher, but Jones’ poor performance in as a midfielder + Vidic and Ferdinand injuries and little progress in either Fabio or Rafael(he played more games recently but was highly responsible for 4-4 draw against everton and still seems defensively vulnerable) didn’t help united…)
According to SAF initial plan, at Itihad stadium Jones should have started as a DM, matching Toure. And few days ago david gill openly confirmed that they need another cm…
Busquets is better as a DM,Yaya Toure is unsuited to Barcelonas style of play therefore they couldn’t get the best out of him.In a way it’s a shame that at the age of 28 Yaya Toure is only just finding his best position to play,he was good as a DM but he’s another level above that when playing as a box to box midfielder.
You do not remember Toure in Barcelona. He was amazing. He had a tendency to drive through the middle from deep which was great against defencive opponents. He was also much better as a centre back in comparison to Busquets. He also added more strength in the middle than Keita. His ability to play multiple positions is a bonus for any team.
Well said, Toure can do what Busquets does, but Busquets can never do what Toure does
That’s not what i said. They are two very different players. Toure could not play the single DM role in Barcelona as well as Busquets because he is very attack minded.
Sometimes it’s not about the vast array of talents you possess but how well you do a specific job.
Barca didn’t feel Yaya contributes greatly to their attacking play to allow him the freedom to abandon his defensive duties.
Since Sergio does a better job defensively and has the discipline to allow the more talented players to do their thing without thinking he could help them…or without them worrying about covering for him(Yaya) when he thinks he’s actually helping, it was a straight forward choice.
At another side bereft of the attacking talents at Barca’s disposal, one might be better off with a Yaya, who’ll give you a little bit of everything
That’s all very well, but the startling feature of the day was United’s failure to put more goals past Swansea – City may well be champions by goal difference yet United didn’t seem to go hell for leather. (I admit, though, I saw only the highlights.)
C’mon – even with Swansea’s admittedly poor record of conceding away goals I don’t think anyone realistically expected Utd to overturn an eight goal difference with two games to go, more likely Utd fans were banking on City dropping points either against Newcastle or QPR – if it was going to go down to goal difference Utd would have had to win their last two by margins of greater than five (if you look at the teams Utd have managed to do this to this season they’re all relegation candidates with the exception of an extremely disorientated Arsenal side back in August) – the best Utd could do after the etihad result was ensure they got the maximum points out of the games remaining and keep their fingers crossed.
Yaya is an absolute monster of a man, and a truly brilliant player in my opinion.
I’ve said for years, he’s a top 10 world midfielder, easily. He’s so complete. Strong, fast, very good on the ball, versatile, and he’s got a knack of scoring important goals; today, FA Cup Semi and Final last year also.
Barcelona could have right done with him against Chelsea, a player who’d have given them a bit of drive and penetration from the midfield, as good as Xavi/Iniesta/Busquets are, I’d much rather have had Yaya against Chelsea.
As a United fan, we’ve blown it though, unbelievable!
Yaya Toure is clearly a better player than Busquets, in terms of defensive skills, attacking technique and physical strength. Busquets only get the role because he is from La Masia and obedient ,there is nothing more than that.
Nice to see Yaya shines in City, he fully deserves to be a star
Only thing he is better at then busquets is physical strength,busquets has better technique and defensive positioning.
Disagree, Busquets is never secure when playing as a CB, whose remarkable achievement is putting the ball inside his own net against Arsenal. Yaya is much more skillful on the ball, while Busquets’ responsibility is purely giving the ball to Xavi or Iniesta. It is true that Busquets has given more license to Xavi and Iniesta to create, but when both of them fail to deliver, the midfield won’t provide any attacking threat,that’s one of the reason why Barca failed to win anything this year
He’s bad at cb i agree but That’s due to being really slow and that was just one unlucky goal.
Busquets is one of the best in playing out of danger as it was pointed by zm,So i think that requires some technique.
Barcelona have three trophies and are playing for a 4th later this month, so I don’t follow the “failed to win anything this year.” I agree that Busquets isn’t secure as a CB, although he does do well slotting in as an additional CB when Barca are playing a 3-4-3.
Really? Three Trophies? You’re joking right? You’re going to count overblown friendlies like the domestic and Euro Super Cups? Yeah, I am sue United will hold a parade to celebrate the massive Community Shield as well. Who counts those?
And even the World Club Cup is not a great achievement. Beating some side most never heard of, after having a by in the QF, and the Santos whose budget is about 1/20th of Barca, I doubt is also parade worthy. What’s next, are we going to start counting the Barca B and its youth team’s achievements? That too used to be an overblown friendly for decades till FIFA smelled money and made it into a “serious” competition.
The one good thing about winning the World Club Cup, is that it means that you have won the Champions League the season before. And that is its major appeal. Only 2 teams have a chance of winning it, whoever wins the CL and whoever wins the Libertadores. And then 4 out of 5 times it will be the European team winning it. The last 5 were European teams, and the two S. American wins before that were flukes, after first Liverpool and then Barca dominated both matches. Yes its a trophy, sort of. And its nice to face some unfamiliar teams and win it and call yourself a World Champion, as opposed to the American way of winning a domestic play off and calling yourself a world champion. But really now…
Its great to win things, even over-hyped friendlies, especially when they are against your biggest rivals, but lets not kid ourselves. If Barca win the Copa del Rey then indeed they would have won a proper trophy, albeit one low on their list. But its still a real trophy, unlike the 3 they got so far.
oh dear… based on (my) dodgy statistical data and research, ZM seemingly attracted teh worst trolls in the (two) years when Barca lost a European semifinal:
in 2010 it was the “anti anti-football/parking the bus/teams-that-refused-to-rollover-and-get-their-bellies-tickled-by-Barca” brigade;
this season it seemed that the blog is invaded by the “Guardiola-is-actually-crap-my-nan/poodle-is-a-better-coach/manager” brigade…
people need to get a better perspective (and I need to contribute better to this thread instead of feeding the trolls
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Surprised to see so many people here defending Toure against Busquets.
I was one to feel bad, when Toure gradually lost his first team place to a young Sergi B and finally left Barca. I didnt understand that move at all, then. But gradually I understood it. Technically Busquests is much superior to Toure and he is may be the best one touch passer in the team. The kind of calm he assures for Barca is immense. Now for me, his name is only the second one that I look for in the first team sheet, after Messi. He is not any routine D. Midfielder. He does his incredible job even around the opposition p.box and is responsible for many Barca goals,f or eg. the 3rd goal against MU in CL 2011 final – After that amazing Messi run, its Busquests who touches the ball to Villa.
Having said that, the arrival of Toure, D.Silva and Aguero has made M. City an excellent team in the PL. Here are few players who can ensure to successfully complete more than 4/5 passes around the opp. half (unlike most EPL teams) and they are definitely good to watch.
I agree with you,I think it worked out for the best. For both Barca and Man.City,Toure and Busquets.
Its strange how this turned into a busquets vs toure discussion.
Toure for me is miles better than busquets as a player, busquets is just better suited to barcas play because he is way more reserved.
Also was watching this the other day and thought it was appropriate to link it.Busquets BRILLIANT ASSITS for messi vs real madrid
watch?v=T7Z7nuxzAjU
Its harsh to say Toure is a better player than Busquets. Toure has great skills that Busquets does not eg. pace, power, goals and drive. However, SB is amazing at his positioning which is the most important skill for a defensive midfielder and his one touch passing is better that Toures.
For people saying Barca won nothing this year, where was Toure when Man City let a 5 point lead slip to the worst Man Utd team in recent years? Anyone who does well in the EPL for a few games suddenly becomes world class, best case being David Silva who has been atrocious since Xmas and was laughably being compared to Messi by EPL journalists early this season.
If you were to look at all their footballing attrubutes I would say he is far ahead, as holding MF then yes it becomes a fair competion. But think of it this way, if they swapped teams which directions would their individual succes go?
On silva i think he is a good player but does not strike me as player a real winners mentality
Busquets is only a better diver than Toure
Mancini clearly made the correct changes in this match. But it was puzzling why it took so long as the problem was so clear from the start. ZM makes the critical point-Yaya could have been moved up higher on the pitch without a substitution. But if Mancini wasn’t comfortable with that set up, De Jong should have come in much earlier.
Newcastle played fairly compact. Ba and Cisse were active out of possession and played relatively deep. This was very intelligent by Pardew’s part – Newcastle could afford to position the strikers relatively deep and still create danger on the break due to the pace and physicality of the two players.
And by sitting his striker’s deep Pardew prevented his midfield from being over run numerically – as what in part happened to United vs. City. In theory City could have generated a 5 vs. 2 numerical advantage in midfield when Tevez dropped deep. That didn’t happen in this match due to the positioning and play of the Newcastle strikers within their defensive block.
At the same time Mancini facilitated Pardew being able to do this. By playing two holders and playing them so deeply while not having a more coherent focus in midfield further up the pitch Mancini allowed the Newcastle strikers to participate in marking the City midfielders while not having to drop deep into the midfield region of the pitch.
Their was space inside of the Newcastle block-it was just that no City player was playing in that space consistently until Yaya moved up the pitch.
In Mancini’s system, City have players who dart in and out of that midfield space. Nasri and Silva move laterally of the flanks and then in and then continue moving. Tevez drops deep and then moves forward.
This has been a problem for City the entire season. Mancini’s base system requires significant trade offs that can create real challenges, especially when City have to unlock a structured defense.
It’s been interesting to see how Tevez has played since returning. At this point it’s not quite accurate to even call him a false 9 as he spends so much time in midfield. He functions almost like a 10 and for much of the match vs Newcastle it was he who was the primary orchestrator of play.
Tevez can play that role but it’s far from optimal to use him that way. It’s not truly his skill set and just an inefficient system to depend on him that way. Aguerro get’s isolated up top alone and players move in and out of midfield behind him – but not necessarily creating a presence in the space where it’s needed. While Tevez can play as a false 9 he’s not truly an orchestrator.
In Mancini’s system presence in central midfield is created through movement. But this requires great mutual understanding between the players and an equivalence in skill sets. It’s really too early for City players to have either of those.
Mancini deserves credit for moving Yaya up the pitch. But that also highlights the issues created at baseline by Mancini’s template which really asks players who have never had the chance to play with each other for long to play in midfield based on strong mutual understanding. Perhaps this is an issue of personnel. City really don’t have a classic central midfielder. But Yaya has the skill set to play this role. He did it at Barcelona when called upon and yesterday as well.
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