Arsenal 2-1 Dortmund: Dortmund press excellently but van Persie scores another double

The starting line-ups
A fast-paced, technical game ended with Arsenal securing their qualification to the second round.
Arsene Wenger named an unchanged XI from the team that triumphed over Norwich at the weekend.
Jurgen Klopp also made no changes to the side which won 1-0 at Bayern Munich on Saturday.
This was a very enjoyable, even match – Dortmund actually had more attempts (and attempts on target) than Arsenal, but Robin van Persie was yet again the difference.
Pressing
Dortmund pressed very well against Bayern, and did so to an even greater extent here. Their first half game was reminiscent of Barcelona’s astonishing spell of pressure at the start of the 2-2 draw at the Emirates back in 2009/10, albeit less extreme. They stayed compact, moved forward as a unit and forced the Arsenal players into hurried passes, really testing their first touch under pressure. Some players, like Mikel Arteta, were more than comfortable – others, like Gervinho, were troubled by the close attention.
Because of the pressing, Arsenal took a long time to assert themselves on the game. Although the statistics will show that they enjoyed good possession in the opening minutes, much of this involved the back four playing the ball to each other.
Arsenal midfield
The interesting thing about Dortmund’s positioning when pressing involved Shinji Kagawa – fielded high up as, in effect, a second striker rather than a number ten. Whilst Robert Lewandowski played up against Per Mertesacker, Kagawa looked to close down Thomas Vermaelen (or stop his passing), which showed how brave Dortmund were being. Often, in this situation, a manager will instruct the second striker to drop onto the opposition’s holding midfielder – in Liverpool’s win over Chelsea, for example, Craig Bellamy started the game getting goalside of Jon Obi Mikel.
This meant that Arsenal had, in theory, a numerical advantage in the centre of the pitch. They struggled to make this count in the opening minutes – the midfielders weren’t working hard enough to get into positions to receive the ball, but when Aaron Ramsey started coming deeper, Sven Bender and Sebastien Kehl generally looked to close down he and Arteta, and Song got more time on the ball, having been caught in possession in the first few minutes.

Arsenal could barely play the ball forward from the defence in the opening 15 minutes
Song
Song used his freedom to become Arsenal’s key player. He steadied the ship and stayed much more in position than usual – rarely looking to get ahead of Arteta and Ramsey, as he’s done in recent weeks. It was strange that he created the first goal from a run forward – it was entirely out of keeping with the rest of his performance, as outlined below – it was the only pass he played in the final third. He was excellent defensively, however, completing all five of his attempted tackles and making seven interceptions – in both cases, the most of any player on the pitch.

Song only played one pass in the final third - the assist
Pace
Dortmund pressed more than Arsenal, consequently played a higher line, and therefore were a little vulnerable to pace in behind. Gervinho couldn’t quite time his runs correctly, but Theo Walcott was prominent and his good relationship with van Persie continues to create openings.

The difference in winning the ball - Arsenal dropped into their own half, Dortmund pressed higher up
But it was because of Dortmund’s excellent cohesive pressing that Arsenal weren’t as likely to score by knocking it over the top as against the high line of Chelsea, for example. Arteta and Ramsey rarely had time to turn to play a through ball, whilst Song did often pick up the ball facing the right way, but wasn’t ambitious with his passing.
Injuries and substitutions
Dortmund lost both Mario Gotze and Sven Bender to early injuries – like-for-like replacements were introduced, but Dortmund clearly lost a great deal of quality. After those setbacks, they never pressed quite as well, and considering that was the major part of their gameplan, it was a huge blow. Klopp had deliberately selected the side that worked so well as a unit at the weekend, now the unit was broken up very early on.
It also meant that Klopp only had one more substitution for the second half – he used it bravely, bringing on Lucas Barrios to play upfront with Lewandowski, moving Kagawa right and Kevin Grosskreutz into the middle alongside Moritz Leitner, who had replaced Bender.
The change was effectively the same kind of substitution Paul Lambert (a former Dortmund player, coincidentally) made at the weekend against Arsenal – midfielder off, striker on, and a move to a clear 4-4-2. But it had the same effect – namely that Arsenal enjoyed more time on the ball in midfield, found gaps, and dominated possession more. It was a move Klopp had to make, but might have contributed to Dortmund’s disappointing second half.
Amongst all this, the three goals were almost separate from the tactical battle. One was from Song’s only dart forward, another was from a set-piece, another was the consolation through Kagawa – so late that even Klopp looked at his watch and shook his head.
Conclusion
Dortmund were impressive but ultimately underwhelming in the final third, Arsenal looked nervous early on but had the ruthlessness upfront when van Persie got two good chances.
We didn’t really learn anything new about the two sides – but Arsenal will consider it a good night’s work and have qualified with a game to spare, the only English side to do so.
Arsenal 2-1 Dortmund: Dortmund press excellently but van Persie scores another double





(Milan v Barca tomorrow)
Looking forward to that one.
Hello Mr ZM. Did you teach your self to analyse games? If so, how? You are very good.
Thanks! No real secret, just watching + note-taking
just wanted to ask how many hours u spend on games
in first two days of week
You have to have a “footballing brain” (as Alan Hansen calls it) to analyze football matches… Sorry..
The difficult bit isn’t analysing matches as a spectator (though ZM shows that doing it well is a fine skill), the difficult bit is doing it on the pitch while everyone is moving about and you anyway want to keep your head down looking at the ball so that you control it properly. In my undistinguished footballing career, I can remember only a few occasions when I suddenly “saw” how a whole pattern of play was bound to develop, so that it was easy to anticipate the next-pass-but-two. Usually I just scrambled about marking someone, or filling a space, or making a hopeful run.
and that’s why you’re not a pro! a pro is able to do all those things, and you arn’t always supposed to look down at the ball to control it. you should already be looking around as the ball travels
“pro is able to do all those things”: that would be nice. It’s almost a hallmark of England footballers that few of them can. Hell, many of them fail the elementary challenge of passing to a bloke in the same colour of shirt – one skill I used to find easy. Mind you, the pros do have to cope with everything happening much, much faster.
Hey ZM,I find ur ‘game’ articles very insightful and interesting, but i would love to se more ‘general’ articles.
For instance compare the difference in tactics used in england spain italy germany nowadays.
Or perhaps an article of what u think the modern game tactics will shift/develop to in the next years, or an article about what we might except at the euros next summer.
What i’d like to see most is articles about positions and how they might develop in the years coming
Check out my website invertedwinger.wordpress.com . I’ve got some more general articles up on there.
you could also checkout betweenthelinesfootball.wordpress.com. It has comparisons between leagues.
Thanks! EPL and La Liga comparisons up, amongst other articles. Hoping to add more soon when I find time.
ZM wouldn’t you be interested in working in a good club? (which club do you support actually?)
mourinho used to be a simple traductor look where he is now ^^ (okay he was a pro player too)
still AVB used to gather information on teams for mourinho and now he’s the chelsea boss
You obviously know more about football and understand football better than quite a few people in charge in pro football…
Okay it’s not the only parameter there is but you don’t have to be head coach
one of Harry Redknapp’s assistant when he is the england manager next year how awesome would that be????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
and please don’t answer me i love my non-mainstream journalist job … !
Hey ZM, isn’t defending almost like a 442 a common practice for 4231 teams?
I mean that’s the way Arsenal defended for couple of seasons, with Fabregas acting as a first defender alongside CF.
This game was really the story of the CL for Dortmund: create lots of chances (sometimes even dominating opponents), but lack the finishing, clinical touch in the final third (see the Marseille v Dortmund game especially where the French won 3-0)… such a shame really
I am sorry Dortmund pressed well, but they did not create any clear cut chances. I cant remember a chance where they were let down by poor finishing. Basically Dortmund did not create anything other than few hopeful long shots. May be Kagawa’s shot from a tight angle was the best chance Dortmund created.
Dortmund created very good chances in their last game against Arsenal this time they did not do. Gotze going off very early might have been a factor, but both teams did not create really great chances.
Actually Arsenal missed the easiest chance of both teams. Gervinho 1v1 against keeper and did not even get his shot away .
Gervinho is the new Hleb!
No He’s Not, Hleb Never Even Shot! Also Gervinho Has A Forehead!
He’s not THAT bad…
Hleb was less selfish. Gervinho’s got the forhead but will not pass sometimes. Great player, just a bit frustrating to watch…
Watching this match, the key for me was the injury to Bender. He is not the prettiest or most technical player to watch but has great athleticism and is usually the instigator for the Dortmund “press” when the ball is played into midfield. The replacement Leitner did not have the same physicality. On a tactical, note I thought that the positioning of Kagawa was very interesting. He was the supposed number 10 but at times played so high up the field that he looked more like a second striker. Very often, Lewandowski would drop deeper and Kagawa would become the farthest player forward. This seems to be a trait that is becoming more and more prevalent – if you like the number 9 and and number 10 playing in false positions. Examples that spring to mind are Adebayor and Van der Vaart for Spurs, Klose and Ozil for Germany, Sneijder and Van Persie for Holland and especially when they play 3-4-3, Fabregas and Messi for Barcelona.
Arsenal look to be increasingly reliant on van Persie, and that should be a matter of concern for the club’s fans. In the PL, for example, Arteta is Arsenal’s second-leading goal scorer, with 3, but one of those while he was still at Everton! I see two problems with Arsenal’s play in the opposing third.
First, the players seem unable to get the ball to their feet in such a position that they might shoot it. In last night’s game, there was a fair bit of the bumbling around with the ball at the edge of the 18 with no shot. In this sense, Walcott, Gervinho, Ramsey, and Arteta in 2011 are no better than Adebayor, Eduardo, Fabregas, and Nasri in 2008.
Second, while van Persie was twice able to get onto the end of a decent pass in the box tonight, no other players looked to have the positional sense to do the same. While finishing is a clear responsibility for the central striker, there were numerous times when van Persie set up good opportunities in the box that neither Walcott nor Gervinho were anywhere near.
The combination of pace on the wings and van Persie finally getting a run of games has resulted in success for Arsenal so far this season, but it’s a gameplan that is too easily countered by simply sitting deep and marking van Persie out of play. (and I haven’t said anything about that brief moment when van Persie came up limping from a tackle)
I agree that Arsenal are reliant on RVP to convert chances. As you say RVP scores about 80% of the goals this season but is not it too easy for any opposition to say we will stop RVP and we will stop Arsenal ?
But his scoring record in the last 10 games or so suggests that either the opposition is too stupid to leave RVP to play the way he wants to or it can suggest that the teams must have tried the obvious plan of stopping RVP and were not able to do it?
Injury to RVP is really a nightmare for me (Arsenal fan) because Chamakh simply does not have any instincts to score goals or to be in right place at the right time. Park is untested probably with Bendtner in Arsenal instead of Chamakh would be better. Sure Bendtner misses loads of chances but he is almost always at the right place at right time.
Gervinho is taking up really really good positions but he is not able to convert those, may be this is our biggest problem.
Theo and Gervinho will start scoring more. The midfielders’ passing is good enough to create chances for both wingers and RVP. Arteta, Ramsey and Wilshere will be an awesome rotation of passers in the spring. Gervinho especially has had loads of opportunities. I honestly think Theo will break out this year – he’ll score at least 15 goals in the Prem.
If it were that easy, sir, teams would already have neutralized Arsenal’s attack. The fact is, the threat is coming from everywhere. RvP is hard to mark because he plays very very deep and then shows up in the box out of nowhere to finish chances. But also defenses have to worry about Gervinho and Walcott, as well as the late runs of Arteta and Ramsey.
And then if they take care of them, there is Alex Song.
Gervinho and Walcott in particular have had chances which they haven’t converted. I expect them to start getting some goals.
The other thing is, because RvP is in such hot form, and he’s the captain and talisman, the team always looks for him. Everything goes through him and if he is open his teammates find him.
Against Norwich Song could have played an easier pass to Gervinho but he waited and slipped in RvP instead who was in a slightly more difficult position to score. he scored but Gervinho might have too. Last season the ball might have gone to Gervinho. If RvP wasn’t on the pitch the ball would have gone to Gervinho and he’d have a great chance.
In RvP’s absence we will adapt and others will step up to score. I am not that worried. Gervinho, Walcott, Ramsey, even Arshavin and Park off the bench can get goals.
Watch a replay of that goal against Norwich again. By the time Song had weighed up his options Gervinho had strayed offside. Van Persie was the only choice.
To be fair to Gervinho, he was in a better starting position than Van Persie, a more incisive player than Song would’ve played the ball while he was still onside.
Erm…..actually if u were watching the whole game you’d have noticed gervinho couldn’t score to even save his mothers life that game, so rather than a lack of incision it was actually great composure & patience by song to wait, & wait till a better option presented itself..which it did. It was great play by song.
You forgot to name Andre Santos and Vermaelen among the goal threats
“In this sense, Walcott, Gervinho, Ramsey, and Arteta in 2011 are no better than Adebayor, Eduardo, Fabregas, and Nasri in 2008.”
You say that like it’s a bad thing, but those four were pretty good, remember arsenal were challenging for the title in 2008 (the first time for a while) until the birmingham game ruined the fun one way or another.
And to add to other replies, if stopping van persie is easy then teams would have done it. The fact is, playing like he is makes him very hard to stop even if you nkow what Arsenal’s game plan is!
I think it has to be Goetze or Kagawa, not both, for Dortmund. Having one of them on the right means that the shape becomes flat with the holding mids shifting into the space left by the playmaker when the drift centrally. A winger or wide forward provides a more cohesive and effective attack for them, since both Goetze and Kagawa are trying to play a similar game from a similar position.
hey, i really like the way you explain football tactics, it’s definitely helped me to understand the game more. what’s bugging me though, is that in all of the articles relating to Dortmund games you write Dortmund’s CB Hummels as Hummel. Also it says Vemaelen and not Vermaelen in the image. Other than these small mistakes i can’t really think of criticism. Keep up the good work
First of all, chapeau to your excellent work ZM!!!
Only one remark, you were saying “We didn’t really learn anything new about the two sides…”
I do not concur. I learnt a lot about Dortmund in the CL. Compared to their “Hurrah, let´s go out and have fun”-playing style in their previous matches against Marseille and Piräus they played much more mature, much better tactically against the Gunners. Before that match I thought, well they are not yet mature enough to go to the CL-finals, I now saw they are.
That´s my personal learning.
It will be interesting to see Dortmundo once Barrios is fully fit and can be the lone striker for a full 90 minutes.
It will be interesting to see if he does play 90 minutes. Barrios is a better finisher but Lewandowski does more for Dortmund all around. Lewandowski has been improving at a phenomenal rate over these past 5 years and he’s still a bit raw. That being said, they can play together, see Dortmund’s 3-1 win over Bayern last year. Lewandowski played behind Barrios and they both had good games.
I think Dortmund were really hit hard by the injuries to Gotze and Bender (as you pointed out); Gotze is obvious but I think Bender is being asked to do a lot more offensively as evidenced by Kehl being the regular starter now over Gundogan. He’s no playmaker but he’s surprisingly effective imo.
So where do people think van Persie will end up in the summer? I can’t see Barca buying him as they already have the one player better than him in that position: Messi. I think a move to either Man City or Real Madrid is much more likely, and I’m terrified at the prospect of just how good he’d be for either one of those teams.
PSG?
Arsenal?
milan…trolololo…
One thing about Dortmund’s pressing, though, is that they tend to surround the opposition and try to force a mistake rather than get stuck in and win the ball outright. This was true even when Goetze and Bender were on the pitch. (See also their game v. Bayern.) Once Arsenal realized this–toward the end of the first half–you see an immediate change in tactics: hold the ball, draw the defenders (often as many as four!) to the side or corner, then try to squeeze the ball through (pass or dribble). Not surprising that VP was left alone on the first goal, and that his mark stepped toward Vermaelen on the second, leaving VP open for the tap in on the far post.
Arsenal – Good win for the gunners to see them through, its funny how people were criticizing them so much, now after a bit of time playing together, they are back winning. I think Wenger has done a magnificent job seeing as he lost his two best players from last season. Now it seems its Chelsea’s turn, after some bad form.
Back to the game, im still not convinced about Arsenals defense, and if Dortmund had actually played better in the final third arsenal might have had some problems. Mertesacker struggled with Lewandoski’s good movement, and i dont rate his and Vermaelen’s partnership at the back. Verm and Kol is the best option, but they need kol at RB right now, where he is doing a good job and doesnt look out of place. Santos wasnt great either, he left Gotze unmarked far too much (usually when gotze moved inside) and didnt really get forward to any good effect. But he wasnt caught out of position really, and didnt make a individual mistake, so i cant criticize too much. It seemed Dortmund were too pre-occupied with pressing arsenal and didnt actually try to come up with some passing moves, a wasted chance.
In midfield, though Song did a good job defensively (keeping his position excellently) I thought his passing as the free player was not good enough. Thats the problem with Song as the free player, his passing range isnt great and can be unambitious (though him being left free did lead to his assist). Arteta should have been the player trying to do this, but he was targeted well, and didnt get any time on the ball. Ramsey was also dealt with well, pushed deeper into midfield and left with no time on the ball. This left the attack a bit isolated, and Arsenal were a bit lucky with there goals, Song pooping up in the final third for the first time in the game, and poor marking from a set piece.
In attack, walcott made some good runs into the penalty area, working well with Van persie, and both had great movement (comes with playing together). Van persie did this really well, dropping deep and losing his marker, creating space for his team mates, this would have been more beneficial if Arsenal had more possession in midfield (better in the second half). Gervinho had a poor game, making poor runs and probably being too individualistic.
Nasri wasn’t one of Arsenal’s 2 best players. Van Persie already was. Even Sagna is more deserving of that accolade than Nasri.
I agree with you on the defence. If Dortmund had a better striker they would have had a much better chance.
I feel that although Dortmund pressed supremely well, compressing Arsenal’s midfield. They did tire,as you would, with pressing, and Arsenal asserted more of their natural ame in the second half.
I just felt like this game could have been a lot more interesting than it ended up being. During the first couple minutes it looked as though Dortmund would really take it to Arsenal but, obviously, they were hindered by the injuries to Bender and Gotze. Tantalizing, but ultimately disappointing.
Shame that Dortmund are out, hopefully they’ll be back next year…
I suggest adding a facebook like button for the blog!
Helen