Three main problems for Inter in 2-1 home loss to Juventus

The starting line-ups
This was another amazingly open match – all the goals came in the first half. Juventus move top of the table.
The away side weren’t completely dominant. Their first goal came against the run of play as Inter started strongly, but Juve had plenty of opportunities and for a brief spell midway through the first half, they were able to open up the Inter defence at will.
Claudio Ranieri’s side lacked compactness and their defence still seems to be recovering from the early season experiment with a back three under Gian Piero Gasperini – their positioning is frequently poor despite the return to their favoured four-man defence. Lucio seems uncomfortable on the turn and Cristian Chivu isn’t a great partner for him, whilst he full-backs are both stronger going forward than they are defensively.
That wasn’t the main problem in tactical terms, though – the problem was that the back four received little protection from the men ahead of them, and Juve were able to create chances in an entirely predictable fashion. 4-3-1-2 remains a formation vulnerable against sides playing with width – as Inter found out in embarrassing circumstances in the Champions League last season.
It is a particular issue when the front three do little work defensively. In South America, Santos are the Copa Libertadores champions with a 4-3-1-2, but their front three seeks to track, occupy and nullify relevant opponents. Too often in Italy, a 4-3-1-2 means the front three switch off when defending, and that was part of Inter’s problem. That created problems in midfield and also at the back, which combined to make Inter ragged and lacking structure.
It should be noted that Inter had plenty of opportunities themselves – whereas they had a spare man at the back, Juve didn’t. Crosses played towards Giampaolo Pazzini and Mauro Zarate were a threat, whilst Maicon bombed forward from right-back well throughout, often untracked by Mirko Vucinic – and he got their goal. A draw certainly wouldn’t have been a scandalous scoreline, but in the interests of tactical value, the focus here will be on how Juve unlocked Inter.
Problem 1 – Pirlo freedom

Pirlo freedom
Inter played this situation particularly badly. Andrea Pirlo has been in fabulous form this season, and is their real creative fulcrum. The two midfielders ahead – Claudio Marchisio and Arturo Vidal – are very good footballers but are both energetic first, creative second. Pirlo is the brains behind the side – stopping him must be a real priority for opponents.
He was too deep for any of Inter’s midfield trio to pick up, so the responsibility fell to Wesley Sneijder. The Dutchman isn’t very disciplined or defensively disciplined – he does most of his work high up the field, and even when he was playing under Jose Mourinho, generally enjoyed a free role in behind the main striker.
Sneijder was clearly told to keep an eye on Pirlo, as he sometimes tried to move goalside of him. But often this was done lazily, a few yards behind Pirlo and not really preventing him picking up possession. He was in a halfway house that didn’t really suit Inter defensively or offensively – if his defensive play was slack, he may have been better off simply ignoring Pirlo and focusing upon getting into a position to get the ball in space for counter-attacks.
In the end, he did neither. Pirlo (on the ball, highlighted blue) had lots of time to switch the ball out to Inter’s full-backs (highlighted in purple), who were free.
Problem 2 – full-backs with no direct opponent

Full-backs with no direct opponent
This is an inherent problem with the 4-3-1-2 – the opposition full-backs are not up against a winger, and are free to get forward. There is a caveat to this – the full-backs generally have to offer their centre-backs help. Juve’s centre-backs had no spare man and therefore depended upon the full-backs for cover, which made it slightly risky to push both full-backs high up the pitch at the same time – especially with the risk of Sneijder becoming a third forward and creating a 3 v 2 on the break.
Juve had the perfect combination, though – a converted centre-back on one side (Giorgio Chiellini) who often stayed in defensive positions and helped out Leonardo Bonucci and Andrea Barzagli. Indeed, at one point in the first half he moved all the way to a centre-right defensive position to tackle Sneijder.
On the other side, they had Stephane Lichsteiner (highlighted in blue), who played a very attacking role. He moved forward into the opposition half, and was always looking to receive a lateral ball from Pirlo.
That meant that Joel Obi (highlighted in red) had to move all the way out from a central midfield position to close him down – often he was 30 yards away and therefore Lichsteiner, arguably man of the match, could advance forward into the orange space for a cross.
Problem 3 – midfield runners

midfield runners
When Obi went out to the flank, Esteban Cambiasso and Javier Zanetti would pick up Marchisio and Vidal. Of course, there was also the possibility of Pirlo switching the ball to the left, although this happened less frequently.
When that happened, the Inter midfield trio had to shuffle all the way over to the other side – Javier Zanetti would go to the flank, whilst Esteban Cambiasso and Obi would then pick up Machisio and Vidal.
Inter’s ‘outside’ midfielders were also expected to provide width in attacking positions, and therefore spent much of the time on the flanks – too often they left the centre of the pitch bare and Cambiasso (highlighted in red) was overrun by Vidal and Marchisio (highlighted in purple) These players went forward and linked up with Matri.
So there were three main problems – Pirlo given time on the ball, Lichsteiner given space to attack down the right, and the midfielders allowed to break into the box.
Those factors combined perfectly for Juve’s winning goal – an isolated moment in the game, but one that sums up much of Inter’s problems throughout. (Excuse the poor quality, but it shows the goal all the way through which other videos don’t!)
Three main problems for Inter in 2-1 home loss to Juventus




Absolutely great write up! Particularly impressed by how the video clearly displays all the points made throughout the article, really great job!
Thanks for this outstanding report! Got an idea of the game despite not having watched it. Very nicely done graphics to illustrate the particular problems for Inter, too!
Do I see it right that Juve went 4-3-3, despite their 4-4-2/4-2-4 being their ‘natural’ lineup as you recently wrote? Sounds like they knew what they were doing against Inter.
As the season has progressed, I feel the 4-3-3 (or, as the media loves to call it, a 4-1-4-1) will be Juve’s ‘natural’ lineup. A midfield of Marchisio-Pirlo-Vidal is just too well-balanced and dangerous to not take advantage of. The trio is joined by Vucinic-Matri-Pepe in attack. It’s not just against Inter; I expect Juve to stick to this formation unless a suspension or injury hits one of the 3 midfielders.
I think that the decline of the 4-3-1-2, although perhaps it can be saved in South America, is sadly another nail in the coffin for the twin striker partnership we all grew up playing.
meh – I’ve never been too attached to the twin-striker formations. Give me a 433 any day.
I think Claudio Marchinsio is one of the best runners from deep. His goal against AC Milan also proves this.
Just looking at that Inter lineup on the diagram, no wonder Inter lost. What the hell is that?
Reliance on Sneijder to find space.
Good points made.
“Pirlo (on the ball, highlighted blue) had lots of time to switch the ball out to Inter’s full-backs (highlighted in purple), who were free.”
Juve’s full-backs
Also, “too often they left the centre of the pitch bare and Cambiasso (highlighted in purple) was overrun by Vidal and Marchisio (highlighted in red) ”
It should be the other way around: Cambiasso is highlighted in red, and the Juve mids are highlighted in purple.
finally, “The Dutchman isn’t very disciplined or defensively disciplined”
Good to see Pirlo given a “platform” to weave his magic. Ties in nicely with your excellent Pirlo piece elsewhere. This is one of my only insights into Italian football so keep up the good work!
Isn’t it weird that Pirlo often wasn’t closed down by Juve’s opponents? I think Milan get rid of him because if he plays, the team becomes too easy to shut down if opponents just mark Pirlo tightly. Most clear example is the Champ Lg matches against MUtd when Park man-marked Pirlo out of the game.
Pirlo is one of my favourite footballer, but I think he is one of the easiest to nullify. Inter should have stuck someone to Pirlo, especially that Juve has no other really creative midfielder.
yeah, I was not gutted when Milan got rid of him for the same reason. You’d think Inter would remember how to deal with his threat…
Personally, I think pirlo is difficult to be marked because of his deep-lying position and great ball control.Everybody knows that he is the mastero of ac milan and italy,if he were easy to be nullified,ac milan and italy wouldn’t have won 2 cls and the world cup in the last 10 years. The problem with pirlo is decline in his stamina,which causes him to run a lot of less in comparison to his prime,a time when running 12000 meters per match was pretty normal for him. Also,more importantly pirlo is a player who requires a a midfielder workhorse like gattuso or makelele to do the defensive work for him.As gattuso and ambrosini were getting old,they were much less capable of winning the ball back for pirlo unlike they were in their prime times. I think this was the reason pirlo performed poorly in the champions league game against man united. It is pretty interesting since Pirlo and Xavi are my favorite players,and while xavi requires iniesta and messi to create the offensive gaps,pirlo requires defensive midfielders gattuso,ambrosini and to an extent seedorf to help him win the ball.
Really, really great article. Loved the diagrams!
This was top-shelf. Excellent write-up.
Agree with others, the small diagrams are excellent. Hopefully they’ll continue appearing.
Inter has some chronic issues – their roster was poorly suited to the prior coach’s 3-4-3, but also lack the proper wingers to play Ranieri’s favored 4-4-2. Mourinho tried out wingers in Mancini and Quaresma, but both flopped very badly and have left. I think things are going to get a lot worse before they get any better…
Actually Inter has great winger named Obi. Well at least in terms of speed, power, and stamina (his pass and crossing is awful).
spot on once again, very accurate!
only this>>” too often they left the centre of the pitch bare and Cambiasso (highlighted in purple) was overrun by Vidal and Marchisio (highlighted in red)” purple and red on the graph are the other way around!
Inter – I don’t know where to start… They were just poor today, and there tactics were completely wrong. How chivu still plays for inter i dont know, he has lost his best attribute: his pace. He is not the solution to inters defensive problems. Lucio is still a great CB, but he needs a good partner that can cover for his lack of pace. He was still Inters best defender out there today. Maicon played a great game, getting forward really well and exploiting vucinic not tracking back (good goal as well). Nagatomo did well too, getting forward and pressing pepe, keeping him largely quiet. So the fullbacks played well, but chivu was so bad that he left Inter completely open at the back.
There midfield was organised poorly. Cambiasso is a great holding midfielder, clever with his passing and great positionally, but he was exposed by the rest of his midfield. Zannetti shouldnt have been playing so wide, he should have concentrated on marchisio, a much bigger threat. And the use of obi was puzzling, why not just use zarate wider on the left, this would have either pushed back the fullback, or at least left zarate free in a dangerous area. They had too many players centrally. Sneijder played well i thought, creating when he could get on the ball and getting into good positions, but he didnt have many options in front of him, or any midfield runners, while his defensive work was poor, letting pirlo control the game.
Pazzini had a good game, a big threat when balls were played into the box (rare) and dominated Bonnucci. But Inter lack any sort of attacking player on the right, Maicon couldnt handle the whole right flank himself, he had to deal with vucinic still. Is forlan injured, because he could have been a option (not ideal but better than this).
Overall, Inter lost because of bad tactics today, plain and simple, far too open at the back, in midfield and lacked any threat on the right.
Juventus – Excellent I thought and are my tips for the league (maybe too early, but they have been fantastic so far).
I still think chiellini should be played at CB instead of bonucci, but today it didnt matter as inter didnt field a right winger. Barzagli is underrated and is a very intelligent CB. Lichsteiner was excellent, getting forward to great effect and having a big impact on the game (again helped by inter not fielding a winger).
Pirlo (my man of the match, though tough decision) was excellent, controlling the game and keeping possession whilst creating moves throughout the game (helped by lack of pressure by inter). Marchisio was helped today by the lack of attacking threat from inters midfield, so could get forward to great effect. I agree with above, that he is very good at those late runs, definitly the best in the Italian league. Vidal was given too much space as well, and got forward well, thought cambiasso was able to pick him up better (as he played higher up the pitch).
Matri was excellent, with great movement, good finish and good build up play (good assist), Pepe had a bad game, staying too wide most of the time, when coming inside might have helped. He was also dealt with well by nagatomo. Vucinic was dealt with by maicon well too, as his defensive weakness was exploited. He could have made better runs I thought, as juventus was dominating but lacking a good enough threat.
Overall inter made it too easy for juventus
Do you think Krasic should come straight back here into this position, or is Pepe the right option? I only ask because I have not watched enough of Pepe this year to pass judgement, but I know how good Krasic is.
Pepe has the advantage of being very good defensively, he tracks back really well, and will run all day.
But i would go for krasic, if juventus want to win the league. Coming into a team on form will really help him, and i think he can give them an extra edge, that they are lacking from the right.
Thanks again ZM. All these gigs you’ve been getting with Guardian/Betfair/FFT/etc have done you great good – your already excellent write-ups have become absolute masterpieces since summer. In particular, this one, and the preemptive pieces on Chelsea and United should become case studies for football coaches training. Keep it up!
“Cambiasso (highlighted in purple) was overrun by Vidal and Marchisio (highlighted in red)”
I think the colors are reversed in diagram 3.
I love watching Juve’s midfield play this season. Vidal is everywhere.
It’s not so much Inter’s formation, it’s the huge shadow that Mourinho has over the club (which Chelsea STILL are trying to get rid of), players are aging and Ranieri isn’t the best of coaches IMO.
Good write up, I didn’t see the game but the way it’s written I understand the article and the theme of the game. I just wanted to point out in the ‘Problem 3′ section I think the colors are reversed, Cambiasso is highlighted in red while Vidal and Marchisio are in blue.
Agree with your points.
On an Inter fans’ Facebook group (probably not the best place to discuss tactics, but oh well…), I called for those starting 11 players to play, but in a 4-2-1-3ish shape. Obi pushed right up against Lichtsteiner to 1) discourage him from attacking, or 2) be ready to track him all the way (instead of halfway when the latter has already picked up momentum. Nagatomo is not at his defensive best right now, having two runners double up on him is not what he needs.
I felt that the Obi/Lichtsteiner battle was going to be the key battle of the game, and indeed both teams created plenty of chances by having those two run at each other.
As for Cambiasso left stranded, that is very true, but also, he’s been given a roaming role since the Benitez days, and that has really compromised Inter’s defence. There’s always a lot of space between Cambiasso and his defenders, which constantly gets exposed (Juve only had to play simple passes to Matri in the space, Shalke only needed to get Raul the ball, etc.). If Inter are to get back to their defensive best, a big part of it will be Cambiasso and Zanetti preventing opposing players getting in between the lines. Even if Pirlo is given space, he needs someone to pass to if he plans on being dangerous.
Inter’s defence has improved exponentially under Ranieri since the start of the season, but it’s clearly still very far behind what it used to be.
Good analysis. Excellent point regarding weakness of 4-3-1-2, especially with respect to inter’s front three lack of work defensively. I thought, however, Inter did a good job of exploiting the space down Juve’s left flank, especially during the first half. Unfortunately, Inter ran into a superior defense. Actually, Pirlo did not have a great appearance, but was still able to switch play effectively. Overall, Juve were strong defensively, and combined well to exploit the inter’s very aging and very weak back four, save Maicon.
What’s interesting is that Inter are experiencing the same issues that AC did early last year: a front three who don’t do enough defensively, and three behind them who probably could contribute more than they do when in possession. Allegri has since dealt with this, partly by moving Boateng forward, but I don’t know if Ranieri will fix Inter’s issues with tactical instructions or personnel changes. Knowing Ranieri, probably a little more of the latter?….then again, Inter’s squad not as strong as it used to be.
Inter miss Eto’o dearly. Not only can he make a difference in the attacking third, but his work rate his phenomenal, and an extremely underrated characteristic of his game.
Great analysis, ZM!
What could Ranieri have done differently? Inter has gone from a force (the last two years of the Mancini-era+the two Jose years) to a team that is so far on the decline it will probably be a season or two before they are in contention for an Italian title again. The squad has almost no options, and the existing players are all on the decline.
Cambiasso has shown nothing this season. I am one of his biggest fans and remember when he used to be amazing. In person, I watched him shut Ronaldinho down 1v1 on the edge of the box three times in one game. Now he does a lot of pointing and shouting (obviously vital stuff) but not much work on his own. Expecting him to “screen” the back four is too much, and he doesn’t get forward like he used to either. It looks as though his knees just won’t work anymore.
Sneijder is inter’s only hope. Often times, a good bet, except when there really isn’t much else.
Repeatedly, Inter’s biggest problems are lack of quality width (fullbacks or wide midfielders) and a squad that is too old. how is it that they let Balotelli and Santon go in the last two years? Unreal.
thats the key right there. this isn’t the inter of 2 years ago. lucio, cambiasso, forlan and zanetti are past it. maicon is living on reputation, he’s got lazy defensively as has sneijder. the rest are either raw but promising, eg nagatomo and obi, or simply not inter standard players. the manager can only do so much. if the players aren’t good enough or their legs have gone he can replace them in the transfer window, ranieri hasn’t had that option. he might be able to fire up and motivate the slackers, but some players are impossible to deal with and will never pull their fingers out. the system, though not my personal favourite, is only failing because the players aren’t doing their jobs properly. good players, giving their all, can make all but the most ridiculous systems work
Great writeup Mike!
From your writeup, it seems like this game all comes down to Sneijder not being able to effectivley deal with Pirlo. I’d like to see you write something (or if you have, please restate it) on how to effectivley deal with DEEP-LYING PLAYMAKERS. I know theres pressing or having someone track him, but realistically an attacker like Sneijder or Aimar are not going to.
Stick a converted centre back in their face ala Pepe on Xavi/Iniesta last year…
You play with an Attacking Midfielder like Toure Yaya, KPB, or Park Ji Sung; tell them to beat Pirlo to the ball. Simple, but the attacking requirements for that position in the Serie makes managers choose players who are better at finding good positions rather than the more athletic ones you see more often in the EPL or Bundesliga.
Hardly going to work if you want to play Sneijder. Otherwise, maybe try double trequartista, one as a creator, one to nullify the opposition deep-lying playmaker.
I think a bigger problem was Lichtsteiner’s availability, but both have the same answer, which is Obi. Obi is very energetic, not to mention technically gifted and defensively capable. To shut down Lichtsteiner, Obi could have gone right up against him to track. To shut down Pirlo, Obi on him, Zarate right up against Lichtsteiner to scare him from attacking.
Just don’t agree that a draw wouldn’t have been a scandalous result. Juve could and should have killed the game in the first half. Inter was never up to the business.
Inter could have killed the game in the first 20 minutes. Juve wasn’t up to the business until they got a goal against the run of play.
seriously, what game you saw?
inter started with all the fury, pressing like mad man but that actually finished the game for them. no real organization and no athletic disponibility. did they have any chances of scoring and controlling the game? Juve controlled it, from the beginning to the end, even with the tipical penalty not signaled by the referee.
It reminded my of Napoli-Bayern: Bayern started strongly, but then Napoli took their time and explored their weaknesses.
also, check this out, if you know how to read italian (and no, i didn’t write it): http://www.uccellinodidelpiero.com/analisi-tattica-inter-juventus-1-2-10a-giornata-campionato/
ZM, I always find your Serie A articles to be the best by far – keep it up!
http://opitacoboleiristico.wordpress.com/2011/10/27/real-de-mourinho-e-mais-agressivo-do-que-ano-passado/
About Real Madrid getting better – as they “understand” and apply themselves better in the 4-2-3-1 system. It’s in portuguese, but it’s a great post too.
I don’t mind you pimping your blog, but it really rubs me the wrong way that you always say it’s a “great” post when you’re clearly talking about yourself.
Yes, you’re right. It’s a good post.
People like you should be hanged.
Without reading it, simply weak pressing from the strikers and midfielders, easy transition to the channel between midfield and defence, and simply shambolic high line that left space in behind rather than contain to allow time for the lazy front players to arrive. Shocking, especially for an italian team, compare this to mourinho’s inter!
Also, a back four is probably more useful, in practise, in organising an offside trap, as there will need to be two way communication for the central CB. People may think “hang on, there will be 3 way communication in a back 4″, but usually the fullbacks are always a yard or two ahead as they expect the central players to close the angle for a diagonal ball between CBs and fullback, meaning the only other direct route laterally, is to go to the feet of the winger, which is now covered by the fullback. In my lifetime I have never seen a consistently working 3 man defending offside trap.
The fullback thing could work with a wingbacks too, but then you have more space through the middle, due to that one less midfielder. 3-5-2 is a decent pressing gameplan formation, but a better deeper, containing one; spare man nullifies the threat of a team that chooses to play a lone striker from ‘getting inbetween the 2 centre halves’, especially from crosses, as the spare man could be more used for man marking, sweeping and covering, rather than a zonal, who looks to intercept and read play.
all in theory, of course…
great post as always
inter clearly needs some youth in their midfield. maybe its time to scrap the old model and use more of ricky martinez
give Rafa Benitez the same players (and some trust) and I believe he will do much better
An analysis in Italian: http://www.uccellinodidelpiero.com/analisi-tattica-inter-juventus-1-2-10a-giornata-campionato/
Gave this a link!
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