Man United 3-0 Tottenham: second half improvement puts United in command

The starting line-ups
Manchester United won an entertaining game 3-0, though it was evenly-balanced until the first goal.
Sir Alex Ferguson used the front six that played the second half of the Community Shield final, though had to make various changes at the back, where United had a lot of inexperienced players.
Luka Modric wasn’t available for selection, so Niko Kranjcar played his role, alongside Jake Livermore.
This was a very enjoyable game. Neither side played a target man, nor a holding midfielder – instead the midfield and forward lines were based around technical quality, and it produced some great football.
Possession
This was a game largely based around possession football. An open, stretched encounter meant plenty of space for the two midfield duos, who both played as units and took it in turns to move forward, adding to the fluidity.
With both sides wanting to pass the ball, the central midfielders came increasingly deep, away from their direct opponent, to pick up possession in space. Tom Cleverley and Livermore both moved close to their centre-backs to get the ball, and then distributed it intelligently. Anderson was more rash early on and a little too ambitious with his passes, whilst Kranjcar is a good footballer, but not a central midfielder.
Space
In a sense, this was a bit of an old-fashioned game. Both sides played two banks of four, then a creative forward alongside a pacey striker. With the midfield battle open, and the central midfielders tempted higher up the pitch to close down their opposite numbers, space emerged between the lines of defence and midfield, perfect for Wayne Rooney and Rafael van der Vaart to drop into.
Neither took advantage of this as much as they should have in the first half, though it was notable that both Jonny Evans and Michael Dawson were tempted out from the back and into rash tackles. Spurs’ defenders probably had the tougher job, because the movement of United’s front four was more advanced, with Rooney and Danny Welbeck moving wide and Ashley Young and Nani coming inside.
Goalkeepers
Another interesting contrast was between the goalkeepers – 20-year-old David De Gea and 40-year-old Brad Friedel. Friedel was the more impressive at traditional goalkeeping attributes (despite the scoreline) but the Spaniard was superior with his distribution, perhaps coming from a generation where good delivery from the back is expected, rather than a bonus.
Friedel’s kicking was often wayward, and when Jermain Defoe is used upfront alone, Spurs lack an aerial option – making it profitable for the opposition to press them when Friedel has the ball, forcing a long kick downfield, likely to be unsuccessful. Gareth Bale is good in the air and often a good option in these situations, and so United were actually fortunate to be using a centre-back at right-back up against him, able to challenge in the air. Chris Smalling also cut out Dawson’s favoured ball – a long diagonal towards Bale.
Second half
The second half looked like being decided by either Rooney or van der Vaart, depending upon which was better at finding space between the lines. It was Rooney. He’d started moving deeper around the 30 minute mark, but after the break he started to dictate play, knocking good passes towards Cleverley and Anderson breaking from midfield, and spreading the play wide for crosses. It also helped that Dawson, on a booking, was reluctant to follow him out and make tackles.
Van der Vaart took up good positions but Spurs’ other attackers often failed to find him – most notably when Aaron Lennon could have cut the ball back, but elected to drive it into the six-yard box. Spurs caught United 4 v 4 a couple of times, but decision-making in the final third was poor.
Redknapp gambled on a half-fit Tom Huddlestone and Roman Pavlyuchenko when behind, withdrawing both his central midfielders. This simply opened up the game and played into United’s hands, and Redknapp might wish he was a little more cautious in trying to get back into the game – Spurs looked tired late on, and United ran up a scoreline that was slightly harsh considering how even the game was for the majority.
Conclusion
The openness here was caused by the selection of players – two sets of technically-gifted midfielders, and forwards who wanted balls played to feet, rather than long, hopeful balls.
United looked impressive, especially at the back considering the inexperience there – tactically, they were similar to in the Community Shield final, although there was relatively little end product from the two wingers.
Spurs should take heart from this game – for 60 minutes they competed, and with Modric back in the side (or the chance to reinvest the money they get for him), they should challenge for the top four again.
Man United 3-0 Tottenham: second half improvement puts United in command




This was a quick, but thorough analysis.
Just 20 minutes of Manchester dominance was enough to finish off Tottenham.
I think Welbeck could well takeover Chicharito’s place in the starting XI after seeing today’s game.
Easily, he’s(Danny) a much more dynamic player. He seems to do much more with his speed than Javier. Javier makes fast runs, but Welbeck seems to be really good with and without the ball at his feet in the pace department. Chicharito is a much easy player to scout and have a plan for. It is the fact that you have to consistently stay with your plan…in a defending category Javier is in the same boat as Andy Carroll. Do A and B and they will be minimized. Welbeck is actually capable of taking on defenders and taking shots and seems to think multiple passes ahead. He works well with Cleverly, Nani and Rooney. Chicharito is a taker and doesn’t seem to be intertwined in the passing game. All he seems to do is make runs and look for passes into space or diagonal runs.
and so, last season’s breakout star is dismissed after two games…
Good piece as ever. Just a question. Do you feel that the constant switching of Nani and Young was particularly beneficial to United? They must have swopped at least 8-9 times during the game but not sure it made much of a difference really
Depends on the game I guess. Today Corluka and Assau were very good. Corluka often being second best never let Young cross the ball easily. But, against a side like Arsenal where they have inexperienced fullbacks ( Gibbs is injured, but Jenkinson) will be exposed . They have so much in common but bit different. Young likes to bend the ball into the goal from an angle while Nani goes to bi-line before bending the ball over the six yard box. And its more about fludity of the team rather than changing the sides for fun.
Both Nani and Young are comfortable on both sides, and they play similar games in that they love to beat a man and cut inside. However, on the right side Nani is much less effective at cutting inside due to being on his weak foot. Opposing fullbacks see that he likes to cut inside when he is on the left, so they leave him space high in their defensive third after he switches back to the right to make sure he does not beat them on the dribble. This results in Nani having space for his excellent early crosses(see Rooney’s wondergoal against City last year).
Park and Valencia have both been left on the bench due to this dynamic play of Young and Nani. However, in tough away fixtures we will probably see the much more defensively disciplined Park and Valencia out on the wings, perhaps at the cost of the fluidity of United’s current front four.
I think Nani was more dangerous when he played on the right, delivering early highspeed crosses. When he starts hitting the strikers heads with those they will produce lots of goals.
On the left I think Young is far better, with good combination play and good decisionmaking. He doesn’t give the ball away and he can go both ways.
I’m not sure if De Gea’s distribution was superior to Friedel’s. Certainly he completed more passes but proportionately they both found their men when releasing to players in their own half and failed when trying to find men beyond the half-way line – as most keepers with poor distribution do. Is De Gea’s distribution superior? To my mind – no. If you devised a series of tests for them to complete I’d bet they’d fair the same. By your reckoning I could roll the ball out to the centreback all game and be the keeper with the best distribution of all. Think about it.
I didn’t see the game, so I’m not sure if I’m thinking of it the right way, but by that logic, is Xavi really that good at keeping possession? All he does is pass to the open guy beside him (through balls ignored). Spotting a passing opportunity is a very important part of actually passing the ball.
Probably a bit of both – when De Gea had the ball, he had options and players getting into space for him. Plus Tottenham not pressing. Friedel, on the other hand, had a bunch of knackered players standing in his box not wanting the ball.
Indeed, I agree with Awahs. I’m sure that if a series of tests were devised, they would come out around the same. But in a ‘match’ condition all test go out of the window. Both keepers last night were put under pressure by the opposition forwards, Friedel due to the innate workrate of the united strikers and De Gea to the fact the the spurs frontline could sniff the blood of a young keeper (apparently) lacking confidence. Friedel tended to lump it – may-be a drawback of his generation of keepers, lack of options supplied from the spurs back 4 or midfielders or even that he like to play it safe.
That aside I was impressed that De Gea did decide to try the shorter ball retention pass especially with the amount of pressure he was put under – and I’m not talking about the players on the pitch – even if he did flap once and mis-handled another time.
Interestingly Anderson was the player who seemed to come deepest from midfield to pick up the ball from him, and considering his second half exploits we may be finally be seeing a very impressive box-box midfielder coming to the fore, a strong player who enjoys driving it out through the middle of midfield.
The point was about distribution, not keeping possession. If Xavi and Jamie Carragher both have the same passes completed percentage does that make them equivalent distributors?
Couldn’t the statistics above be used to make a point that perhaps De Gea’s playing it short shows a lack of confidence in his kicking and that therefore his distribution could be poor?
Couldn’t they show the difference between a United building from the back and a Spurs attacking more directly? Or indeed a million other notions..?
http://blog.statdna.com/post/2011/08/08/Wasting-possession-the-statistical-argument-for-using-short-goal-kicks-more.aspx
Fair point, it can be demonstrated however that pretty much any goalkeeper playing it over the halfway line will end in a similar result ie a 50/50. The important factor to consider is whether or not the keeper in question has the requisite decision making ability to choose the best available option. Given the premium placed on possession it seems to me that using the short option is in general a better choice though obviously this may vary depending on the team/situation.
Watching the Dutch broadcast of the stream, the commentators were very complimentary of De Gea on the second goal — it was his quick distribution to a streaking Young that allowed United to break with numbers.
That pass was inside his own half, so what exactly makes it less important than finding somebody beyond the halfway line?
Besides, as a USMNT watcher, I assure you that Friedel’s distribution is, generally, poor. It may well be a generational thing, although that was one aspect where Keller, Friedel’s main competitor on the national team and a player of the same general age, was clearly superior.
If you read the article again, you’ll see that the passes completed statistic was held up as a good indicator that De Gea has better distribution than Friedel. I think it’s pretty obvious that good distribution is about vision, timing and skill of execution and has very little to do with a comparison of statistics which were more or less equivalent anyway.
I can appreciate that striving to find statistics to illustrate a point is what separates this website from regular punditry but this is one of those occasions where stastics can be used to prove anything.
Not sure the analysis regarding De Gea’s distribution abilities would be so positive if he was not so fortunate to escape the near blunder in front of his goal. That was a very poor decision.
To me, this United side/system is starting to look more and more like last year’s Villareal.
Wonderful analysis as always! Thank you!
hmm interesting but not so sure. who’s bruno? who’s cani? who’s borja valero? who’s nilmar? style of play feels very different to me, villareal more cultured and spanish, man utd more frantic and english
I think Forza Juve is referring more to the basic 4-2-2-2 shape, and the use of 2 dynamic mobile strikers instead of a “number 9″ type of striker.
That’s exactly what I was referring to. manUs wingers like to come inside to combine with the forwards, just like Cazorla and Cani did. Their strikers like to go out wide (“with Rooney and Danny Welbeck moving wide and Ashley Young and Nani coming inside.”)though their CM take turns to move forward, while I think Villareal’s CM stayed more stationary as a pair without breaking forward as much (though please do correct me if I’m wrong.
Villareal’s fullbacks are a little more offensive than Smalling/Evra though and thus provide more width another out-ball. But with Evra and Rafeal/Fabio, I think this would be similar again to Villareal.
I’m curious to hear what ZM thinks of this comparison. =)
EXACTLY what i was oin to post. the style of play may be different, but the positioning and movement of the 2 wingers are a lot like that of Villareal’s interiores.
in case ZM missed my comment i put it back:
I have 3 questions to ask:
1. Why can’t i post in the feedback comments? because it’s there i want to post XD
2. Would it be possible to put numbers on the comments sorted by time of posting to make it easier to see which comments appeared since you read the comments (we’ll just have to remember the last number we read).This or any similar way to ease the lecture of the comments…
3. Could it be possible to distinguish our comments or the answers to our comments by any way to make the comment sections more readable? This or any similar way to ease the lecture of the comments again.
Thanks.
Tottenham’s shoot-on-sight tactic, aimed at exploiting the perceived vulnerability of De Gea, worked a treat, didn’t it! Back to the drawing board, Harry – assuming he actually has one.
ManU’s 5th striker (Owen) is better than any of these misfiring fools Harry can put out there. Get a damn goalscorer for petesake, Harry.
I’d take Defoe over Owen at this point any day of the week, personally.
ZM can you explain why Man U consistently look solid and flexible in defence without a designated holding midfielder, something which seems to be beyond other top teams? Chelsea without Essien/Mikel being the example that comes to mind.
I will chance an answer. Mainly most other top teams such as Chelsea, Barca, Real for example have fullbacks which are expected to initiate attacks or overlap the man in front. Thus the need for a holding midfielder. In united case, they expect their wingers to provide width and aid the attacks therefore obviating the need for the Mascherano-type midfielder. In today’s game you will have noticed that Evra and Smalling were very very conservative until the game was completely wrapped up before they chanced going forward.
I’ve never heard Evra described as a conservative full back in my life, he went forward a lot today, always supported Young/Nani – whichever was on the left at the time, he just didn’t have his most effective game going forward.
Yeah, Smalling doesn’t get forward as much as Evra does, but right back isn’t his best position, he’s still learning it, and he’s still not as comfortable there as at centre back.
I don’t really think what you’ve suggested is the reason most other teams need a destructive player in the team to help their defence. I’d probably put it down to the fact that United’s attacking players work a lot harder than most teams, and harder than they’re given credit for (it seems the only team you can compliment pressing for without getting scrutinised is the perfect Barcelona) and that they usually help out the defence more than the “designated” attackers in a lot of other top teams. It seems to be more of an eclectic approach to defending, rather than compartmentalised. Even so, for the past few seasons, United have had Carrick screening the back 4, helping protect them and positioning himself so the other team can’t really take advantage of space. He’s not a destructive player, but he’s been played there to screen the centrebacks.
I’d like to hear ZM’s take on it though.
Evra did draw a foul on the edge of Spurs’ box. It was a nice combination, Young drew the defender wide and found Evra bursting into the seam.
…well, when Evra ventures forward United change to a back three to mark up on Tottenhams two attacking players so that way they are not immediately outnumbered during transition. i beleive this site have mentioned this type of defence as perfectly accpetable against a traditional 4-4-2 formation…
nice post drexler
United does have a deep-lying playmaker that hasn’t been making loads of plays in the name of Carrick.
United’s defence does not totally shut out opponents like Barca do (where they high press to recover lost balls and keep them until they score… what an ass). We are good in defence, but we’ll always allow our opponents a chance or two to have a shot at us. Evidently, we’ve been relying on van der Sar’s saves (or Vida’s last ditch tackles) on countless occasions to bail us out. As a decade-old United fan I have always watched United anxiously whenever we’re defending. But then, this makes us more exciting that any of our rivals out there.
Holding midfielder is something that we have not had since Keano, Butt and Hargreaves left. Jones and Pogba could probably play that role for us in the future though!
Fletcher?
Fletcher does a lot of his best work without the ball and in that sense you could call him a defensive midfielder, but he doesn’t sit in front of the defence in a holding role a la Mikel or Busquets. Carrick comes a lot closer to this description, although the 4-4-2 requires him to occasionally take up attacking positions.
I think how we are setup has more to dwith it than anything else. till last season our wingers and wing backs(with Rooney who drops into the sides) usually start up our attack, and our midfielders were almost there to fill in the gaps and provide numbers in defense while we moved up from the wings..i agree with whats said below in regards to Carrick screening our back four and that is how we usually played till this season where we have completely thrown out that tactical notebook and gone for all most kamikaze attacking mantra. its risky but we have excellent center backs who read the game better.
@ZM:- what do you make of Smalling starting at right back frequently. I thought Fabio proved his mettle last season there and should eb starting especially since we have no other backup CBs unless you count Carrick of course. personally, i think Fergie is doing this to bring height at set pieces defensively or attacking wise
also against bale fabio might have been not the best option. plus, it allowed evra to venture forward an still keep an extra man at the back (almost like a back three, if needed).
and, posted here somewhere: it allowed ferguson to react to changes in the tottenham side without substitutions, as he could hav just switched jones and smalling would somebody more adept at heading come on for defoe.
They haven’t played a team with a strong 3 man midfield yet…
I thought that van Der Vaart had a disappointing game. He was wasteful in some areas, and although he frequently got into good positions, he looked tired and frustrated and just shot on sight. ZM, do you or anyone else think he is really only effective in the hole? I remember him playing well for HSV but whenever he plays wide or deeper for Spurs he looks average. I’m not sure he was ever the truly world class talent that some have made him out to be, as he was not that good for Real Madrid. But what do I know!?
On another day, he’d have caused chaos. Not a good game for him at all…
He tried to do too much it was like he tried to make up for the lack of strikers and the lack of Modric at the same time.
poor fella
He’s one of those players who looks world class when the conditions are in his favour (his team dominating, space in front of the opposition back four) but does very little to change things when they aren’t going his way.
I think he does his best work playing off a striker who can hold the ball up. last season he was pretty anonymous every time I saw him line up with Defoe. he scored most of his goals with Crouch playing target man and will probably benefit from the Adebayor signing. also, he did look a bit out shape.
Interesting, just shows spurs lack of penetration. I’m sure that Harry would have said ’shoot on sight’ although it would have been more along the lines of ‘test the keeper out’. If you look on the chalkboards, spurs very rarely penetrated united through the middle via through passes. You see an ‘invisible’ wall in-front of the 18-yard box, thus leading to mainly long shots. This instantly plays to united’s 3 centreback (smalling seemed to naturally tuck in more than evra). Moreover, Bale tended to cut inside, rather than out outside of Smalling where there was space. He was probably wary of the lack of arial threat from Defoe against both Evans and Jones for united, and VDV is not exactly the Cahill type of player either. The only real change spurs got was Lennon beating evra an playing it -poorly may I add- into the box. United on the otherhand were able to play in the box a number of times, the second and last of the goals. The wingers were not afraid to throw the ball into the box from the wings – although this was largely unsuccessful as it was a deep cross form Cleverley which broke the deadlock. One thing was clear, United got players into the box in the first 15 minutes and most of the second half, a simple observation, but ultimately one key factor for the first goal.
To me Harry got it wrong, Jones is exceptional when the ball is in front, he’s brave and blocks the ball incredibly well. He can jump, but he is still a shorter breed of Central defender and this was highlighted in the preseason tour, caught under the ball. Combine this with De Gea’s lack of experience when dealing with Premiership quality crossing equals a big-man tactic from Harry… maybe it was -too obvious- a tactic to use.. maybe SAF would have just switched Smalling with Jones if Harry used this ploy.. (this is interesting as united seem to have a ridiculous number of options for the CB/RB/LB positions including Evans mid match when they are playing)
I agree 100% about Tottenham’s lack of penetration especially in the second half.Kranjar as valuable as he is in keeping possession he rarely put himself in dangerous positions.Also he can’t match Modric when it comes to killer pass instinct or penetration by movement. Lennon was unimpressive and playing way too wide as did Bale. Hence Spurs’s presence in United’s half was not as threatening as it should be. United did the exact opposite. Cleverley became more involved, Nani was tucking in even more often, Anderson increased his movement towards the opposite box.Not to mention Welbeck’s excellent performance highlighted by a goal and a backheel assist.
Spurs coped so well with United’s central attack play in the first half, and mainly the second… They seemed to tire, though- and that’s when United don’t let up…
Anderson really coming along this season. Keeps getting better by the game.
Very impressive outing for United last night!
That said, I’m glad Tottenham’s equally wasteful and preferred to shoot on sight against De Gea. Had they looked to run more at our defence and had looked for the killer pass, we might be in trouble already.
Anderson and Cleverley are superb for us during attacks, but it’s the defensive side of our game at the centre of the pitch which would cost us points later. Zonal Marking has pointed this out during West Brom’s match too – our opponents’ attacking players have been given lion’s share of spaces between our back 4 and our central midfielders for the past 2 matches. This would be a problem this Sunday… Hopefully Carrick gets to play for that match, we’ll need his positional skills to deny Arsenal their space to roam around!
Apart from that (and De Gea still fumbling a bit… he’s getting better though) everything’s going well for us! Our free-flow interchangeable attacks reminds me of the days when we had Ronaldo and Tevez to run at defences with Rooney! Gosh I’ve really missed those days!
Yes. The attacking play of Cleverly & Anderson is very good but in tight matches where good players punish you if given half a chance, this team will look very vunerable. I could count 3 situations where we were 4 vs 4 or 3 vs 3 in the back. Anderson & Cleverly are breaking without coveringe each other and in a 2 man midfield superior opponents could run riot in counter attacks
Im sorry to miss Cleverley and Anderson’s brilliance…
I think until the first goal they held back to much and didn’t support the attack enough.
Also I cannot see any of them keeping possession combined with brilliant through balls like we see from the Xavi, Iniesta, Schneijder, Fabregas, ozil etc type of midfielders and I think United still lack a world class midfielder or two to compete against the best teams this season.
IMO they also need to plug the hole infront of their defence and I think it is obvious that they are giving away more space in front of the defence when Carrick is not present.
Anderson IMO is not covering enough space and he is not distinct enough in his passing game. After 4 years ypu certainly should expect more from him, especially considering his price.
The second half against WBA and the first 60 mins against Spurs should say enough about United’s requirement concerning central midfield.
It would have been another story if Sandro/Huddlestone and Modric had played i think.
And it will be another story against City/Chelsea in the league and Barca/Real in the CL.
MANCHESTER – Striker Danny Welbeck scored one goal and created another to inspire a youthful Manchester United team to a 3-0 win over…
Jermain Defoe, Clint Dempsey and Ryan Shawcross picked up the plaudits with the Star Man awards last night. Deserved? EuropaLeague
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What happened to your website? It used to be good (if a bit samey to this one).
i am sorry but i do not agree with your observation . the game was won by utd in the midfield . spurs midfielders lacked pace as well as the cutting age that anderson and cleverly have they were mobile provided the necessary cover to the back 4 especially anderson and could bring the ball upfront with pace which spurs lacked . your observation is right that kranjckar is not a midfielder and 4-4-2 doesnt suits him he is more of playing in a free role than in midfield and he lacks that pace which is needed to drive that attack . livermore was played all around and at times couldnt read the game same with huddlestone . all and all nice utd performance.
as per as welback and cleverly are concerned if welback can just add a yard of pace or even just learns to dribble he is going to be a good player for utd . his touch is good has eye for a pass . cleverly has arrived .
Very strange decision rom Arry not to start Huddlestone, since Modric was out. Their play has, after all, based largely on good/quick balls played to the wings. Lennon saw very little of the ball in the 1st half, and Bale in the second. Livermore’s distribution was neat and what was expected from him in his role, but Kranjcar simply hasn’t the passinng range nor the ability of Modric. Huddlestone would’ve been far more natural cover for Modric in this system.
And if not directly tactics related, Evans and Jones were really impressive in the match. Especially Evans’ passing and Jones’ tackling.
PS. I think Welbeck should have a downwards arrow as well. Especially in the second half he linked the play excellently and didn’t miss a single pass from what I saw. And as always, top stuff!
Spurs – I thought they did well, but the biggest mistake had to be kranjcar as a CM, he is really not suited to that position, and has no defensive ability really, which was what spurs needed. I really like livermore, looked really good on the ball, and kept good positioning for a young player. But instead of Kranjcar, spurs needed a tougher CM, like sandro or wilson, though i think they might be injured, so i would have played jenas.
I also thought Defoe was the wrong choice for striker today, he was easily dominated by the CBs and i think crouch would have been a better option, espicially as he and van de vaart have a good understanding.
Man U – Great performance from the champions, i cant really have many arguments, really just not taking chances, stopped a bigger score i thought. Rooney was excellent today, dropping deep and linking play. Welbeck was fantastic as well, lead the line strongly, was good in the air, and showed excellent movement. I much prefer him to hernandez, and think he should stay first choice.
Two potential problems i would suggest are smalling at RB means not a lot of attacking abilty from that position, tho placing one of the twins in there would solve that. Plus i think having smalling there is a tactic to let evra get more forward, and he has to be the best fullback manchester having going forward, Sort of like when wes brown played at RB, that was evra best season going forward, because he had brown to help cover.
Another is that as good as cleverly was at creating today and keeping possesion, i really think he has alot to learn about positioning, he was caught out a lot, and i think he needs to learn to stay deeper sometimes, and jusr create from deep, rather than join in on every attacking. But he is young and will learnt that the more games he plays.
For the CM selection of spurs, I think Harry had a massive selection problem due to injuries. Sandro out, Huddlestone was supposedly half-fit, Modric injured (mentally and physically), Jenas half-fit, leaving Livermore and Kranjcar. You could ask whether risking Huddlestone or Jenas alongside Kranjcar or Livermore would have been more fruitful.. Huddlestone’s pace and agility is minimal in the best of times and Jenas seems to be lacking any kind of tactical discipline -even if his general defensive techniques i.e. tackling heading is good- to play a role next to a non-holding player.
In terms of the united midfield, Anderson did a good job. his passing was a bit too extravagant early on, then settled to retain possession for the rest of the match. his attitude to positioning was particularly good, something that is, at the moment, seems to be Cleverley’s weakness. As an enthusiastic midfielder he goes forward and links well with the front 4, but on going back he left massive holes by not fitting alongside Anderson. He does need to dovetail with Anderson and drop a lot deeper (as expressed above by Kane Prior) not just to receive the ball in the ‘Deep playmaker’ position but as a defensive foil when Anderson goes forward. Of course, This part of his game will come with experience.
I think jenas’s energy was needed tho to try and contain man u, kranjcar didnt break up any of the moves inbtween midfield and defense, where cleverly, nani and young kept moving into. I think jenas, though not a great player, does contain good stamina and can tackle, so he could have negated those players at least more than kranjcar. And even if his tactical positioning wouldnt be great, hes quite good at pressing, so could have closed down cleverly/anderson, whoever was deepest at the time.
Anderson i thought did a good job, though wasnt under much pressure (no pressing from the spurs CM’s). His passing was neat after the phase you mentioned, but i was more impressed with his energy, he and rooney kept the team going till the end, and he actually did break up moves quite well when spurs attacked through the centre (rarely). His forward runs were very good too, he has definitly learned to time his runs very effectively, and i am sure he will get more goals this season.
Man u seem to have a great squad, have to be my tip for the league, with mancity the nearest challengers, tho i think they lack a good passer in deep midfield, relying on gareth barry could cost them. My tip being to buy modric, he would improve there passing, and improve the players around him
ok, Jenas and Huddlestone may be half fit, and I know Sandro’s out, but what about Palacios?
hes also injured i think
Yeah, Palacios is out but it seems they want to try and sell him anyway… He actually looked really good in preseason… Wouldn’t mind seeing Huddlestone and Palacios together in the middle this season if they dont sell him…
Having read about de Gea’s frailties, I’d assumed that Crouch would be fielded against him. Is he unfit? Out of form?
Crouch missed the game with a swollen toe.
Is it just me or does Bale look like a left-back playing in midfield?
I think so too. when teams allow him space to accelerate into he’s a monster, but he tends to be quiet when the full-back marks tight. to be fair, I think he had a few good runs, but no one to cross to against United.
I think he’s a better attacking full back as well. Too easy to defend against unless he’s got space to get up speed.
Wonder if he’ll play there once Huddlestone / Sandro are back. You’d have to be very brave indeed to play a fullback that attacking without a holding midfielder, esp. against United
Smalling did a very good job on him, but I think Bale is still ‘feeling his way in’ after quite a nasty injury from a Charile Adam tackle (attempt) last season. He’s had a couple of competitive (if you can call that canter at Hearts competitive) matches and probably lacking match sharpness and fitness. He may, though, miss the role of Modric (as will Lennon) in the side picking those through-balls.
As I mentioned earlier, Bale had a strange match. His strength is definitely hugging the line and bursting to the byline to put crosses in, an old fashioned winger. But he only put two crosses into the box (not inc. corners) and cut in often. This is obviously due to the lack of arial ability throughout the spurs front 4/6 – in fact the only player with any arial prowess was Bale himself (although the thought of Bale heading in his own crosses isn’t always that out of the question!). Is it happens Bale found himself in the inside left position with the ball playing it inside to Krancjar mainly as Assou-Ekotto didn’t overlap anywhere nearly as much as his Opposite, Evra.
I’d just like to also wade into a observation earlier from Riccardo on the lack of a designated Anchorman for united. I think its one of those risk-reward cases, where keeping possession in an attacking position, i.e. from the halfway line forward, forces more players of the opposition back (baring lone forward). If you push wing-backs forward as well as central midfielders (one or both) the opposition will see the overload and drop more players back leading to the said lone forward against two central defenders. There are two key advantages that United have to pull this off; 1. general rotation of the front 6 – the front 2 forwards won’t always stay in the box, they drop deep, particularly Rooney, to playmake in the CM zone meaning that there tends to be player left over outside the box to mop up the loose ball. 2. The attitude of the front 6 means that if they do lose possession to the opposition, they pile back in numbers to get men behind the ball – minimising the chance of the counter.
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I loved the second goal from Man.Utd because it heavily involves David De Gea’s distribution. He instantly started the counter-attack when throwing the ball out to Ashley Young and Spurs two midfields weren’t in position (I think Huddlestone had to fill in left-back as Assou-Ekotto was still recovering from attack), and Anderson exploited the space when link-up with Welbeck and finish that goal. Should see more of this …
Barely any mention of the fact that Chris Smalling (playing non-league only a couple of years ago) completely marked the supposed second coming of Lionel Messi out of the entire game?
United have made a good start, I like the fluidity of the front four, but if Ferguson plays the Anderson/Cleverely midfield combination in the big games against the likes of Chelsea/Barcelona etc, they will get exploited, I would say I’m sure Ferguson would be aware of this, but after his tactical nightmare against Barcelona, I’m not so sure.
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Nani just isn’t as effective on the left, and it was no coincidence that his form declined when he was moved there to accommodate Valencia. When on the left he keeps cutting back on to his right foot because his crossing just isn’t as good on that side where as he has a very good shot with his left foot. Also his cross for Rooney’s overhead kick came from the right.
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