Real Madrid 0-2 Barcelona: two goals for Messi

The starting line-ups
Lionel Messi scored a poacher’s strike and then a superb solo effort to give Barcelona a major advantage in the tie.
Jose Mourinho named his expected side – Lassana Diarra was in for Sami Khedira, whilst Raul Albiol came in for the suspended Ricardo Carvalho.
Pep Guardiola also chose the side expected in the preview. Carles Puyol returned from injury to fill in at left-back, whilst Seydou Keita replaced the injured Andres Iniesta.
The game was scrappy, dirty and not particularly pleasing on the eye. For much of the contest, the objective of both sides seemed to be to get opposition players sent off, rather than actually try to score a goal. Tactically, it wasn’t fascinating for long periods.
Real without ball
The main question before the game was how Real would play without the ball. In the league they sat back deep and let Barcelona have possession, then in the cup they pushed up, pressed and got in Barcelona’s faces. Having played much better in the cup final – a game they won – it seemed the latter would be their approach here.
They were much more conservative, however, sitting relatively deep and concentrating on nullifying Xavi. Pepe, probably the best player across the previous two contests, continued to track him across the pitch. Cristiano Ronaldo was visibly annoyed with Real’s tactics – at one point desperately trying to close down three Barcelona players, with no help from his teammate. Real were letting Barcelona play.
Barcelona possession
So, with Barcelona enjoying around 65% of possession in the first half, the game’s major issue in the was this – how could Barcelona transform their dominance of the ball into goals. They essentially had three problems to try and get around here. First, Xavi was being man-marked. Second, Iniesta wasn’t playing. Third, since Barcelona were only dangerous in the cup final when they played with width, David Villa and Pedro Rodriguez stayed very wide, making them less of a direct goal threat, whilst Messi was very deep.
Barcelona were essentially playing no centre-forward, and with Real packing the area in front of the defence with three holding midfielders, shots from long-range and interplay through the centre of the pitch were also unlikely to result in a goal. Therefore, there were three ways Barcelona stood a chance of scoring – (a) with a wide forward cutting in – as Villa did when he flashed an early shot past the post, (b) with midfield runners – what Xavi did when he had the best chance of the first half, and (c) Messi beating players to get into the box himself. That didn’t happen in the first half, but it would have a very obvious impact later on.
For their part, Real rarely threatened in the first period, aside from one moment when Valdes struggled to hold onto a long-range Ronaldo shot.

Xabi Alonso's passing was disappointing
Second half
Mourinho made a change at half time, bringing Emmanuel Adebayor on for Mesut Ozil – who completed just two passes in the first half – and pushing Ronaldo to the right of midfield. This change has been questioned in the immediate aftermath of the game, specifically the decision to bring on Adebayor over Karim Benzema and Gonzalo Higuain, but it made perfect sense – Adebayor had a very big impact in the previous two Clasicos from the bench. He was the logical choice.
Unfortunately, Real couldn’t really take advantage of his strengths. He won a long ball after 40 seconds of the first half, but generally had no support to get on the end of flick-ons. Real’s expected approach – get the ball wide, then hang up crosses (something that worked so well in the cup final) broke down before it even begun, because Xabi Alonso exerted little influence on the game, and his long balls to the flank were often wayward, as the chalkboard on the right shows.
Red card
The key moment of the game was Pepe’s red card. It meant that Real were forced to switch to a 4-4-1 shape, and had three direct consequences.
First, obviously, it meant Barcelona enjoyed even greater dominance of the ball, now with an extra man in midfield. The game was even more about Barcelona’s conversion of possession to chances.
Second, it meant that Xavi was no longer being man-marked, and he was free to move up the pitch into more attacking positions – he provided the ball out wide for substitute Ibrahim Afellay for the first goal.
Third, it meant that Alonso had to move forward slightly into a 4-4-1 and Real were now much more vulnerable between the lines, meaning Messi got more space and more time on the ball, eventually scoring both goals. It’s particularly obvious on the second goal that there is a huge gap between the two Real banks of four. Making tactical criticisms of such a wonderful goal is probably unfair, but an extra man in that zone may have stopped Messi, or at least forced his run wider before one of the defenders truly stopped him.
No Mourinho changes?
By this time, Mourinho had been sent to the stands, and it was surprising that he (or one of his coaches) didn’t choose to make a substitution after Pepe’s dismissal. There are two strands to this criticism – there’s the obvious fact that Real were now without one of their key players, someone who was widely recognised as playing an important role in stopping Xavi, and Real now faced a problem in midfield. There’s also the more simple argument that with Barcelona keeping the ball and tiring Real, some simple fresh legs may have been useful. Afellay demonstrated that on the other side.

These are the passes received (rather than played) by Lionel Messi - it's interesting how deep they are, and how rarely he picks up the ball in the final 25 yards of the pitch
Admittedly, Mourinho’s options from the bench were limited, but he could have removed one of his three forwards, put on Esteban Granero as a third central midfielder, and played no-one on the right of midfield – Carles Puyol wasn’t a huge attacking threat from left-back. That’s no criticism of Puyol (who had a great game) – merely a recognition that leaving him free at left-back would have been preferable to giving Xavi and Messi more time on the ball. It’s easy to be wise in hindsight, but making no substitutions whatsoever after the goal was a surprising decision from Mourinho, and he rather gave Guardiola and Barcelona time to assess the situation before pouncing.
Other factors
Three other points of note.
Puyol and Keita were drafted into the side as something of an emergency, but in a tough, physical game like this, their strength came in handy. Puyol and Keita are much more physically imposing players than Adriano and Iniesta, and though there was less technical quality from those positions, it didn’t turn out too badly.
Barcelona sat deeper than usual at the back, which caused Real problems. Alonso was unable to hit balls over the top of into wide positions, whilst when Ronaldo (in the first half) and Adebayor (in the second) played high up against the defence, there was a big gap between them and the midfield. On a related note, Dani Alves was very conservative.
The quality of Real’s set-pieces was dreadful. Alonso’s balls into the box were often weighted wrongly, whilst Ronaldo’s shots were usually wasteful. This seemed like Real’s best chance of scoring a goal, yet they constantly produced little.
Conclusion
There were two stages here. First, Real let Barcelona have possession, but relatively few chances were created. The second phase came after the red card to Pepe – which must go down as the turning point in the game. It freed up space for Xavi and Messi, Barcelona’s two best players, Mourinho didn’t respond, and Barcelona eventually scored two crucial goals.
Chalkboards from the excellent Total Football iPhone app
Real Madrid 0-2 Barcelona: two goals for Messi



Messi was quite good this match…It’s a pity that Pepe was sent off….spoilt the game…
Yes i would have liked to see Madrid play the WHOLE game without a player being foolishly sent off. That being said, I doubt Madrid would have scored with 11..they were too content to just sit back and soak it up, very noticeable in the first half.
On a completely untactically(?) related note, well done to both teams for playing the game fairly and with respect towards each other. Damn you Messi for not getting involved and trying to play football…..
I think a the Guardian Podcast someone said it. Many of the red cards against Real were last minute send offs or the game was already decided. Not this time, but you have to blame Pepe for that. That’s cause and effect.
And someone here said it right: Was definitely not a dive unless Alves is some kind of cyborg.
Alves does not get touched by Pepe at all. Pepe and Alves touch the ball at the same time, but there is no contact on Alves whatsoever. Fair challenge in my book. Had I been Alves I would have got up and played on. In fact much like he did, without the whinning, rolling and stretcher in between. Oh and I prefer Barcelona over madrid any day of the week!
For me, it is not the fact of whether he was touched or not it is the fact that it was a reckless challenge that could have broken his leg if he had not have moved. I know for a fact that if i was Alves i definitely would have dived away from a horrendous studs up challenge like that. If he had not dived he could possibly have a broken leg and THAT is why i believe it is a red card. Not because there was contact, but because Pepe had the intention of going in like that with complete disregard for the outcome of his opponent. But that is just what i think, it may be wrong.
The question is: was the ref able to see that? maybe it was not a red card if you look at slow motion. but the ref has to decide and for me it was a red card in the first second and it was after the first slow motion. if I have to look 10 times… I would say it does not matter if there was a ball, because Pepe would have killed everything in his way that moment.
It should have been a yellow card, the ball was there to be won by both players. Both gets the ball, studs are raised a bit, but not a red.
I think they should have a rule, if a player needs a stretcher, then he can’t come back on as a medical precaution.
However, Madrid didn’t seem like scoring and once Barcelona started actually playing football they looked unstoppable.
Jose will need to go all out attack in the return leg if Madrid are to have any chance of winning.
I guess you need to blaim Pepe for spoiling the game.
A shame the red card was given otherwise I guess it would have been a 0-0.
Yeah, its a shame for football that such violent actions are punished. Its also a shame that Messi scored one of the most beautiful goals on CL. 0-0 would been better…
indeed…btw, does ‘pepe’ stand for ‘butcher’ in portuguese?
Mascherano did nearly the same minutes before and did not get a red card – where is the mistake?
Mascherano didn’t see Pepe coming; he was trying to kick the ball. Pepe came flying in out of nowhere and just happened to nick the ball first. Had Pepe been a split second late, he would have been red carded then.
nearly ? are you kidding me ? It was JUST a foul punished by yellow whereas Pepe’s violent action could have easily break Alves’ leg. ONLY in EPL it’s possible not to be sent off for such action (ie. De jong).
Yeah, maybe it could’ve broken Alves leg, if it HAD TOUCHED THAT IT IS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wV0cobDonSc
And no, the video has NOT been edited. This was aired on Punto Pelota, infamous for their love of everything Barcelona.
@unclesam, It didn’t touch because Alves took his leg away in order to avoid having early holidays. Thank God. Now, what does it change in the fact that Pepe acted like a mindless beast, tackling with an open foot at full speed? Red card. End of story.
unclesam Check the FIFA laws. Simply attempting to kick an opponent is an offense. Contact is not necessary. The only question is whether it’s a yellow (“careless”) or red (“reckless”).
@rick, Pepe definitely was not attempting to “kick a player”. Yes, he was a bit late, but he was going for the ball. A yellow card for me. Alves played it brilliantly, he saw Pepe was coming, knew that he could posssibly get a red card for him, and avoided the injury. It did seem that he got really hurt though, despite that Pepe never touched him…
@ Mano
Yeah, right. Pepe won’t do anything to hurt other players. His collection of fair play trophies is ample proof of this. To honour his exemplary fairness, Getafe actually erected a Pepe statue in front of the Estadio Coliseum Alfonso Pére.
masche was aiming to clear the ball not stud a player in the shins…
to be fair…as it happened i saw pepes challenge and was calling for yellow..red was a welcome surprise (barca fan here)
Named the worst referee in Bundesliga this session to influence match like this? Poor decision. On the other side Busquets is really funny with hic facepalms and i really dont know what to think about it
But yeah second leg will be very interesting and i know Real can attack and attack in very good way and without the pressure it will be even more entertaining
Not just Busquets (he does it every match) but Alves and Villa are also bad actors.
It seems to work, so it’s probably more accurate to describe them as good actors.
Sad enough.
A bunch of divers, cheaters, and ballerinas…if Barcelona represents the best of world football, then football itself is in very bad shape. Mobbing the ref at every foul, falling with the hands on the face at every buzzing bug flying by, really a great example to learn from…am sincerely surprised Guardiola has nothing to say about the behaviour of his players.
Who said that he wants to say anything. It’s obvious that this is a team tactic. It has always been like that with Barcelona. When they are under pressure from a tough defense, they revert to acting and cheating to get fouls, yellow cards and red cards.
Maybe it has something with me not being English or something like that, but if I were the ref, Madrid would have ended the game with 8 players (minus probably Pepe+Ramos+Ade)
exectly but in england they love physical game which can’t be called football, Pepe would be considered normal had he played there …
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I would prefer to watch Stoke rather than the first 75 mins of that match. At least they aren’t as talented as either of those teams.
how about marcelo, who finally stepped on pedro after about 3 tries?
totally agree, how about marcelo? the barça-haters will answer that? is disgusting to see that… i like to see the situation changed, with masche over pepe, everybody will say that the red card is fair…
Yeah, I thought the ref had a terrible game. He seemed to get caught up in the emotion of the occasion, and gave loads of really poor decisions – free-kicks that weren’t free-kicks, fouls that weren’t given as free-kicks (not to mention the sending off) – Uefa should have known this wasn’t going to be a free-flowing joyous football match, there is way too much at stake, they needed a ref who was going to remain calm throughout the game -
– also, I know lots of people on this forum won’t like these comments about the ref, but I’m afraid the way the refereeing decisions went there’s no way it can be avoided to express disappointment about the standard of officiating……
Having said all that – it should guarantee that the return leg will be the uber-attacking game that we all want – Real HAVE to go for it now, don’t they…..?!?!?
madrid are simply not as good as barca. if they open the game up, and try to attack, they will be destroyed. that’s why mourinho plays barca like that.
“Real HAVE to go for it now, don’t they”
and that is indeed the exciting bit. Now we’ll see if Mourinho and his team of gazillionaires can play some attacking futbol against top-notch opposition.
Of course you’re right the ref/linesmen had a big impact on the game; I really hope they begin having someone review video to catch divers and punish them retroactively.
What ref could constantly stand up to almost every decision being appealed by 5 or more players, constant play acting, a media campaign trying to show bias towards each side and 80,000 screaming fans? It’s no wonder there are odd decisions.
Fair point. It’d be nice if that ref could be found, though……..
maybe someone can construct a robot for that purpose, otherwise i dont see that happening..
i dont think any ref could have had a good game in this matchup.. admittedly the red card was very decisive for the result but even after seeing that pepe didnt hit alves i still think you can give the red card, since pepe must know that alves will probably be seriously injured if he indeed does hit him.
There is but sadly he has retired. His name is Colina.
i thought the ref was very good, given the extremely emotional circumstances..
He wasn’t bad. The RC was harsh but if you look at it in real time it’s understandable. Only bad decisions were giving a free kick on Di Maria’s dive and a yellow for Pedro’s Hollywood act although on that play Ozil could arguably have gotten a yellow for grabbing Alves from the back.
Is Mourinho to discover that parking the bus is appreciated in Italy only?
Apparently it’s appreciated in the UK as well
So, with Barcelona enjoying around 65% of possession in the first half, the game’s major issue in the was this – how could Barcelona transform their dominance of the ball into goals
They had that possession, but it was all in their own half. The first half had a very simple pattern – Barcelona knock it around in their half for a few minutes, try to push up but lose possession, then Madrid send it straight back into the Barca half and lose possession, Barca knock it around for another few minutes…
I think that this is a valid point. As usual when such things are proclaimed, the frequent reference to this series of matches as some kind of battle between ‘positive, offensive’ football and ‘negative, defensive’ football is fairly ludicrous. Neither team is especially ‘positive and offensive’ against the other, although both Real (as should be evident from the Valencia game) and Barcelona may be perfectly ‘positive and offensive’ against other opposition.
One might as well argue that Madrid dominated the first 45 minutes – after all, the ball spent much more time in the Barcelona half.
The adage that you can’t score without the ball is frequently quoted, but you can’t score from your own half either.*
* yes, I know, it is possible. It is also possible to score without the ball, if the other team concedes an own goal.
two things to keep in mind:
1. this game was at the Bernabéu, wasn’t it? isn’t the onus traditionally on the home team to show some initiative?
2. “then Madrid send it straight back into the Barca half and lose possession” this is the depressing aspect – with all that high-priced attacking talent, Madrid couldn’t put anything attacking together on their part.
In response to your first point, away goals are much more valuable than home goals so in a way it makes sense to park the bus at home and hope for a goal on the break away.
A home game is still a home game. The idea is to win by 2 goals at home so you’ve got less to do away. If every home team tried to win by many goals wouldn’t football be more of a joy to watch than park the bus at HOME and on the FIRST leg? Too much strategy not enough football.
But the missing point is that Real were at home. How to blame Barca for being conservative when a 0-0 would have been an OK result for them ? If I were playing at the Bernabeu, I’d be perfectly happy to gently pass the ball around for 90 minutes.
Such a game will not go down well in Real’s history. Park the bus at home sure didn’t please the Madrid crowd, especially after the millions spent on this bunch of players and manager. If it works, it’s maybe OK, but it didn’t.
Because (leaving aside the fact that Madrid planned to attack more in the second half) 0-0 was also an okay result for Madrid. Mourinho would have been perfectly going to the Nou Camp knowing that one goal would put them through.
Yes but to keep the score level, it seems obvious Madrid would have to either take the lead or equalise. With all teh talent on the Barca team it was very unlikely that they wuld keep a clean sheet two games in a row and with the overrated Sergio Ramos constantly turning over possession, the best strikers on the bench, one of the world’s best attacking midfielders gathering dust (Kaka), Lass passing backwards, Madrid were not set up to put the ball in the net. Mou’s clever-after-the-fact claim that he was about to change things up before Pepe got sent off seems unlikely. He would have to have replaced about 7 players to make that happen!
An entirely stupid tactic considering how Barca have torched teams in Camp Nou, including RM, and struggled in away games.
The most expensive offense, who just destroyed the third best team in Spain, wasting on the bench. An offense that could walk on to any team in the world, including Barca. This while Barca’s defense looks extremely weak. hahaha.
It was clearly noted by many posters that Pepe and the rest of RM squad would not be able to play so roughly in CL especially since they had already alerted the refs in the previous 2 classicos. Mou failed to see this and sent out his same aggressive midfield, gets shocked when he loses a man and fails to react. A complete failure by Mou.
Good point about Barca’s defence. I expected RM to run wild into slow Puyol at left back (just figure a 1vs1 with Ronaldo at full speed…), try to get in the back of Alves or exploit Masche’s lack of height and experience as CB.
But for it too work, they needed to have show up in numbers up front to move the defence a bit. Some kinky foreplay by Kaka, Ozil, Di Maria, Xabi could have possibly opened paths for CR, Benzema, Higuain or Ade.
A bit of waste, honestly.
Real showed no effort or desire to press and attack the first 45 minutes even though it was a home game.
Mourinho might have been gambling to get a late goal or to end in a 0-0 and try his luck at the Nou Camp but let’s be honest, trying to score at home was the better bet and he didn’t take it.
Barcelona finally learned from several previous games (Inter last year, Arsenal this year) that if the other team is parking the bus, they should wait patiently. Barca had no reason to set themselves up for a counter attack. A 0-0 result would have been in their favor, not Madrid’s. Barca waited for Madrid to step up which they finally did in the second half. This opened up the space for them to attack and the damage was done thanks to Xavi, Affelay, and Messi. Tactical victory goes to Guardiola, hands down.
You can’t counter attack if there is no attack.
I think Barca was happy to play in their own half for a while. they showed the world that Real don’t want to play football. Who said it? (I think it was Rexach) Defensive football does not exist. If both teams trie to play on the counter the ball lies in the middle of the pitch and both teams say: You take it – No, you. …
Barca showed: we are the away team, we have time, we don’t need to take any risks. And they showed that Real is the team that don’t wanted to play football.
Please allow me to point out: I think Barcelona maintained possession in their own half because they wanted to pull Madrid players out. They kept the rhythm slow as to prevent Madrid from taking advantage of the spaces behind the defenders. Even Dani Alves was conservative. Sort of a counter-counterattack tactic.
Messi wasn’t particularly good this match.
Obviously, the goals were brilliant, but it’s no coincidence that he found space to run into immediately after Pepe’s red card.
Messi was nowhere to be seen for the first 60 minutes.
It’s typical media hype.
In fairness, no attacking player was anywhere to be seen for the first 60 mins. Not sure this one can be turned into an ‘overrated’ thing.
well said
I’m starting to think one hardly ever overrate Messi enough
Messi is almost certainly the best attacking player in the world, but realistically his teams seem to get into predicaments, and then his teams get the benefit of questionable decisions. The same thing happened against Arsenal. Everyone questions Wenger’s lack of pragmatism, yet in the Barca match he was pragmatic and the referee sent off van Persie on a very weak second yellow. Argentina hasn’t won squat with Messi. Basically, it appears that the only way Messi and Barca will succeed is if they get to play teams that have been weakened.
Someone should warn Scholes, it’s obvious he won’t get any slack from UEFA against Barcelona.
I guess they did win the 2008 Summer Olympics. U-23 team however.
and the U20 world cup in 2005, almost single-handedly! its funny how football is a team game, but when Argentina/Barcelona lose the finger is always pointed questioning Messi. i think we’ve been spoiled, we don’t appreciate how good he really is
Can you please tell me how was Man U weakened two years ago in the final ? or Real Madrid earlier this season ? How about Arsenal in the quarter final last year ? your statement that “the only way Messi and Barca will succeed is if they get to play teams that have been weakened” is based on nothing but emotion !
Like the goal Messi scored in London against the “non-weakened” side that incorrectly ruled out or the penalty he clearly earned before RVP was sent off in the 2nd leg that was also not given? That would have forced Arsenal to attack and would have changed the match. Let’s also forget that RVP was doing absolutely nothing in that match. People really have selective memories.
The truth though is that Barca struggles against bunker defenses like every single team does.
He did have the best offensive play, the nice reverse pass to Xavi. Also that one series of 1-2’s that looked to almost breach the defense. He also drew the yellow that will bench Ramos in the next game by blowing by him. Pretty good contribution.
I knew ZM is also part of the big conspiracy to help Barca win trophies.
He was no where to be seen during the 3 matches. It’s a surprise how “the best player” in the world have no response to a well known tactic, against which he had to play for 3 matches and yet he found no response to it.
They might say he scored against the whole Madrid defense, but that only happened when they broke down because they whole game plan had to change.
See, this is what frustrates me the most. What is Messi supposed to do? Everytime he touched the ball, three Madrid players surrounded him. When he does manage to skin all three, they hip/forearm check him to the ground.
Funny that no one mentions the “tactical” fouls by Madrid. Every time Barça got some space to run into, a Madrid player was there to grab, trip, or forearm check him to stop him. If it wasn’t the player with the ball, it was the key player off the ball ready to receive the pass. This was especially true on 1-2’s. The best counter Barça has for 10 behind the ball is to play 1-2’s on the edge of the area. But each time they tried, Madrid would grab or trip the player looking for the return pass. These fouls (are they fouls?) were never called.
People always complain that Barça have no plan B. But Messi playing 1-2’s on the edge of the box is one such plan B, at least as opposed to Xavi’s slicing and dicing through balls. But these “tactical” fouls that are never called prevent this…
Well said. These tactical off-the-ball fouls you refer to, they’re called antifootball. Anyone that uses these tactics:
a. deserves to lose
b. deserves to play a man down
Mourinho got away with it in the Copa del Rey final, but not this time.
Agree 100%. A lot of these tactical, off the ball fouls are not seen by the ref or the camera. This is the true definition of anti football and this is what Mourinho does best; bringing the worst out of his players.
I don’t think you realize how tough it is to play the number 10 role. You’re expected to constantly make thing happen on the offensive end, and you’re the primary focus of the defense. It’s even tougher when you’re faced with three excellent/violent holders, and tougher still when you don’t have any teammate in the box to play passes to (Villa and Pedro were isolated in wide areas with little support from their fullbacks). On top of all that, he had no Iniesta to provide another threat in the hole. When forced to play in the buildup, Messi did his job well. When the time came to attack, Messi provided the killer blow. He’s simply the most creative and clinical player in the world.
“Messi was nowhere to be seen for the first 60 minutes.”
A great pass to Xavi (after which should have been 1-0) doesn’t count?
touche!
You try and run past 5 defenders of a top-notch European team in the Champion’s League semi-final. How many players could have done that?
I thought Messi was pretty good, really. Pretty much all of Barca’s attacking moves in the game (even before Pepe was sent off) originated with him or finished with him shooting or giving the pass (e.g. Xavi’s chance or two). I thought he was maybe the ONLY Barca player with serious intent to go forward, albeit from an incredibly deep position. As good as Xavi is, there were many, many backwards passes in this match and (as has been noted in many comments) Barcelona seemed content to wait for their openings.
I agree, but its hardly important. He turned up when it mattered most and scored two fantastic goals to basically win the tie. What more can you ask. His job is to win games for Barca and he did just that.
While I agree that Messi was dangerous and creating chances, I disagree that he was the only one.
Villa had a great game. He single-handedly created chances and tested Casillas multiple times. It was also his shot that Casillas deflected to Pedro who almost got around it enough to head it away.
Messi had a great game watch this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCuICCCDUgk&feature=channel_video_title
If it wasn’t for Ramos yellow he would have been one on one with Albiol and might have scored another wonder goal.
I also like the one were Lass barges into him long after he passed the ball.
And the one where he gets fouled by Lass on the edge of the box, ties to get up (most players would just lie there) and gets fouled again by Ramos who pushes him down onto the turf, Messi than grabs the ball with his hand and the ref gives it to RM.
With a calmer finish from Xavi it would have been 1-0 Barca before the red card thanks to a great pass from Messi. And if you re-watch the 2nd goal I think you’ll note that there were plenty of defenders, but they all got herbed. Just like ZM herbed you with his reply.
on a final note, Messi’s rivals for media hype in the past year have included Ozil (during the world cup at least) and Ronaldo, neither of whom have scored from open play yet in these classicos IIRC, so are they even less particularly good?
Barcelona learnt from the Cup game not to advance with their full backs. That way they weren’t giving real the easy counterattacks. I find Mou had the possibility to move his full backs up in the first half to create pressure and an attacking threat but he didn’t. He will have to in the return leg!
I don’t think that attacking was really in the forefront of his mind in the first half. Some adherents of various forms of tactical dogmatism (‘tactics isn’t about utilizing the strengths of your own team and countering the tactics and players of the opposition in order to attempt to overcome them, it’s about disregarding all of these and playing in a certain way because it is the only which is morally right!, and so on) may find this a great moral outrage, but I would say that his tactic was quite reasonable. According to his and Ronaldo’s account of their game plan, the fullbacks would have been brought up sure enough.
EXCELLENT OBSERVATION. You are right on that one, Real’s goal came from a counterattack on the wings last week.
Exactly. Both fullbacks stayed back the entire first half, and the space Real Madrid attacked vaporized.
A poor match. But as much as I hate discussing refereeing, this time I have to say that Pepe just had it coming. He was superb in the last two clasicos, of course, but had also a overload of senseless agressivity. He paid for it this time – a few inches and it’s “Adios Dani”.
Second thing I felt was that with Adebayor, Ronaldo didn’t drop really deep, so Real were playing a kind of 4-4-2 with no right-winger. Puyol shifted slightly and Alves went slighly higher to transform into a sort of 3-man defense – which meant Barça had 3 vs 2 at the back, and thus we saw Mascherano coming out of the defense more often than usual.
Of course, Barcelona having no right winger here, this weakness wasn’t really used, but it did help, I feel, in neutralising the Adebayor threat.
‘ mourinho’s options from the bench were limited’ … Real have the strongest bench in the world imo. He should have atleast tried to make an attacking change but I guess he was too scared of another 5 goal loss. Also I could see that Barca were reluctant to play killer balls in the first half and were seemingly happy to just retain possession in their own half knowing that real would only press when the ball was in their half. Maybe this was just to frustrate the players and also the crowd.
Yeah, they do have the strongest bench in the world, but his bench was limited tactically. He had no central midfielder he could put in to win more ball. He had no attacking full-back. He had no wingers with the same workrate as Di María so that Di María’s defensive work wouldn’t be missed if he was subbed out, he had no player near Ronaldo’s level so he couldn’t sub him out.
I watched much of the first half and then gave up – a stinker. I watched the highlights later, but really there was only the two goals to enjoy – the rest was play-acting and harrassing the ref. What a shower!
Agree. This is surely one of the worst El Clasicos in the history of Madrid-Barca.
It always happens in semi-finals recently. Remember Chelsea-Liverpool, Barcelona-Man United, etc… There’s too much at stake for a good night of football.
Barcelona-ManUtd semifinal was actually a proper football match, an organised defence vs an attack minded team, much like Barcelona-Inter semifinal. This match was simply a kickboxing event held in Hollywood.
I agree. The Final Barca-Man Utd was also a good game although slightly one-sided but still The Devils had their opportunities.
The problem is that Mourinho+incredibily frustrated team are not a good mix …
Mou is the best motivator but he does it in away that riles everyone up and destroys the game. His incessant whining about the refs, the schedule, and everything else rubs off on all the players.
*copied from preview article*
Barcelona more than deserved the win for their positive attitude. Very smart and solid game from the team. Apart from last 5 minutes of the 1st half, they avoided to get into too many discussions. Very mature game. Luckily for football, the easy tactics of parking the bus isn’t rewarded every game.
And despite Mourinho saying it’s over, it’s only 0-2… So FFS man, you have the most expensive squad in football history, including a bench with top attackers like Kaka, Adebayor, Higuain and Benzema, so don’t come telling us a two-goal margin is impossible to turn around. Stop moaning and start working on some plan.
PS. There’s always very, very little footall in semi-finals of the CL, it seems. Especially when two top teams meet. Someone should make an overview of the semis of the last years. There’s so much at stake.
Adding: This phrase “Mourinho’s options from the bench were limited”… Please, do not take us for fools, ZM. He had so many options to move players around on the pitch, to change the system. With all the great attacking players he has at his disposal in the most expensive squad the world has ever seen, it’s a real shame he does so little with it and just uses the same old park-a-bus tactics, that teams as Hercules or Levante or Mallorca can also put in practice, with the same chance of being succesful. So, we can deal with your Mourinho adoration but do not take us for fools. Thank you!
Yeah, you’re down to 10 men in a match against Barca with a result that’s OK for you (0-0) and you want to bring on attacking players? Stupid. Mou’s only real option was to bring Granero but he would have to sacrifice someone from the attacking 3 to do so. Ronaldo? Not an option, Mou wants to please him and make him play always; Adebayor? Already a substitue; DiMaria? kept Alves busy, can defend, has speed. And Granero himself? His good, but not that good to guarantee it would make much difference.
Not talking only about options after red card, mind you. Anyway, in the league game, he did change the attacking tactics and it did work. Yesterday, he had plenty of possibilities, not only off the bench, but also changing Marcelo’s position, etc. He just did nothing and by that, he also confused his players. From the red card on, Mourinho mentally left the game and started preparing the press conference. As always, the most entertaining part of the whole Mourinho show.
So? He did a change before the red card (Adebayor). Changing tactics? What for? He wanted 0-0 and it was going well up until the red card. Plus, the plan was to let Kaká in later on.
Fully agree. Far too obvious that ZM is a Mourinho fan, n very biased. He’s a very successful coach, but nowhere near perfect as ZM n many others portray him to be! For what’s worth someone like Pep in his first 3 years has relatively achieved a lot more than Mou in that time, and with style, class n humility. Give Pep the same time n Mou will nowhere be even near!
Mourinho wasn’t lucky enough to be coaching the best team in the world in his first 3 years of managing.
Of managing = Of management
The person who’s name is xaviesta is calling someone biased Mourinho. And ZM is the biased one?
This comes from a neutral point of view; neither a Barcelona nor a Real Madrid fan.
I think the game was really crap, especially in the first half. IMO Both the team were awful, particularly Madrid as they were playing at home and surely needed a win. I’m in Asia, so when I watched the game it’s 02.00 in the morning, and I was soooo sleepy while watching, truthfully speaking. Not a kind of match I would expect from El Clasico….are we watching Juventus-Milan Champions league final one decade ago in Old Trafford which ended 0-0 and went to penalties?
Barca was risk-averse and was too careful in moving the ball to the final third. Dani Alves was not given license to go forward by Guardiola, and Puyol too. David Villa was lost alone upfront. All the time they played the ball always around their own defence, and I was like, “What the F___ Barca is doing? Move the goddamn bal forward oh come on!”
While Barca’s play was risk-averse, Madrid’s was more awful. Jose Mourinho played an insanely defensive and negative football at home (at least Barca did try to move men and press forward). This is indeed a disgrace for Madrid to play that kind of football in Santiago Bernabeu; a team used to be boasting an attacking-style football with football artists such as Raul, Figo, Zidane.
If Los Galacticos members saw the game, they would be very ashamed to watch Madrid played this kind of football. Did you guys see Ronaldo’s frustation? Even a player like Ronaldo seemed in a disagreement with Mourinho’s tactics.
The way that Mourinho talked after match is a disgrace to football. Admit the loss and lose like a gentleman Mourinho; because losing is losing. REMEMBER that Pep did not whine a single word when Bojan’s goal was disallowed last season when Barca played against Inter.
Of course, because defending for part of the game and attacking for another is an entirely fatuous notion which could never succeed in giving one a chance of winning a game. Otherwise, tactics is not a matter of morality.
And really, of course Ronaldo didn’t like the tactics. Ronaldo does not like defending, pressing and so on. This is not a novel revelation. It is the reason why Ronaldo was not playing on the left against Dani Alves.
Ronaldo did try to press, he threw his arms up in disgust because none of his teammates were helping him press. It was monkey in the middle.
And the offside goal of Milito or the penalty on Alves in San Siro…
Or his break against Utd when he was with Porto. Mourinho is just a spoiled brat. Needs a good spanking.
Also, it was quite clear that both managers were extremely cautious in this game, especially in the first half. Real hardly pressed Barca at all while Barca kept recycling possession across the half way line without any intent on going forward.
It seemed both managers would be pleased at taking the tie to Camp Nou.
I do, however, think that Mourinho’s plan was to play very defensive and cautiously in the first half and then go for a more attacking approach at the second half.
Madrid didn’t press Barca at all throughout the first half but did begin to put some pressure on the ball in the second.
It was a shame seeing that red card, it basically killed the tie.
What I was surprised about, though, is that Mourinho didn’t look to shut up shop and see out the game with a goaless draw after the red card.
I’m sure he knew that giving Messi and Xavi so much space on the ball is bound to create trouble for madrid, which is why I thought he should have just stayed compact, closed the gap between the lines, denied Barca space on the ball and saw out the game.
Exactly: Compare this game to Inter v. Barca last year. Down one man, Mourinho made immediate changes and preserved the win (overall). This time, he wasn’t decisive and paid the price. Complaints as to the lack of bench are misguided–you find someone, you create someone, you make the changes that you need to make, regardless of who you need to sacrifice (even CR9, if it helps you to win). In addition, the failure to make changes suggests a lack of belief in the team. They needed guidance and the “special one” was nowhere to be found–both after the red card, and after the first goal.
Btw–can’t for the life of me understand the negative comments about Messi. Check out Wenger’s comments on him.
If you are referring to my own comment, then there was nothing negative about it.
I just thought Messi was nothing special that match, that’s all.
Had it been a different player, he wouldn’t have been hyped up so much.
Karma is a Bitch.
Mou got what he has done always with his teams.
Surround the Referee, intimidate him, play act, and not be interested in actual play.
Barca did all this (as a cule it pains me) But considering its Mourinho i am glad it was against him.
Pepe was lucky on the field in previous 2 Clasicos, Red in this match was harsh but i have no bloody sympathies.
ZM you mention 3 problems for Barca BUT i think the one about the Pitch is often forgotten, Pitch was a nightmare from Barca perspective, one can look how the ball was holding up and how much difficulty they had passing, they had to lift even short passes (RM can do this ofcousrse, its their choice and it played in their favor)
In later stages Puyol started to come more central a lot as well to try to hold onto the lead.
As for play acting i don’t think anyone who has DiMaria in their team has any credibility to criticize, although Barca were to blame for this.
Once again Madrid ought to be ashed at the way they approached this, trying and hoping to nick it by luck somehow and Not attack or even try to, Shameful, more ways to play the game But its RM and as a Barca supporter i know them(& appreciate their legendary history) BUT this is NOT Madrid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFe1jUMDwp8
Ronaldo annoyed (as mentioned above in article) & won’t live up with this sort of stuff for long. Whaqt a waste.
Interesting evening at the Florence in Islington (where there was a panel discussion of the match) despite the fact that the game wasn’t up to much.
One stat that doesn’t seem to be noted anywhere, but really backs up Philippe Auclair’s point before the game regarding Barcelona’s use of tactical fouling, is that despite having 72% of the possession they committed 25 fouls to Madrid’s 21.
Given the disparity in possession this is kind of extraordinary. Most of these fouls were committed by Barca’s midfield and attack. Barca are lauded for their use of pressing however last night they went beyond just pressing and resorted to tactical fouling as their principle means of stopping the opposition. Surprisingly the Barca player who committed the most fouls was Messi.
Given that Diarra committed the most fouls in the game, and Madrid had three destroyers in central midfield, some will say that both teams were as bad as each other (indeed I think this is what Michael Cox (Zonal Marking) said on the panel last night). However the sheer number of fouls that Barca managed to commit in the limited time Real had the ball would suggest that Guardiola’s team is instructed to use this anti-football tactic to a greater extend than even the arch-tactical-cynicist Mourinho.
Good statting there! Hope you enjoyed the evening.
It’s an interesting argument, but I think this is poor use of stats. As mentioned above (and by me in earlier threads about the RM vs. Barca series), Real’s many tactical fouls (of the man who has just passed so he can’t receive a return pass) not called by the ref are a crucial-but-invisible stat. So many refs are taken in by this approach, playing advantage despite the fact that a play has been broken up by a professional foul. Mourinho teams have used this approach against Barcelona for years.
Also, Messi committing the most fouls while pressing the Real back line doesn’t show Barca “resorted to tactical fouling as their principle means of stopping the opposition.” That’s just overly aggressive pressing–the desire of Barca players to have the ball back. To prove your point, you’d need Busquets/Mascherano/Pique to be the leading foulers.
The red was at least a slight turning point in the match but when you play so physical (i.e. dirty) against opposition who really aren’t very big you run the risk of getting cards, Mourinho can’t blame the refs for his risky tactics. Granted Busquets and Alves dived quite a bit, but the ref fairly called them out when they did. The red was a definite red, Alves was spinning in the air after getting hit, you really can’t fake that.
Barcelona played pretty well considering how defensive Madrid were, they grinded out a few chances in a defense so tight.
2nd leg will be better since Mourinho knows if he wants a chance he can’t just grind out a 1-0 victory, i’m expecting for more attacking play but still a victory for Barca
The lack of praise for Guardiola in this article shows once again how biased you are towards Mourinho. Had Mourinho done what Guardiola did, you would’ve dedicated the whole article just to his genius. Fullbacks staying back, Pedro-Villa inversion, Afellay introduction, playing Keita instead of Iniesta (which was a tactical thing) and many more are worth nothing to you.
Give credit where it’s due.
And Mascherano centre-back. Who would have said a few months ago Mascherano would play centre-back in a CL semi-final at the Bernabeu…
There is little praise for Guardiola bcoz he very rarely alters his basic formation, Barcelona tactics are same for every match with little variations for each game, the quality of his players is such that each game his opposition has to set up his team as a reaction to Barcelona’s setup. So he doesnt do so much during the game as the opposite manager.
He kept his fullbacks at home, that was a tactical change that took away the counterattack and called Mourinho’s bluff. He had no answer. I agree Whatever, Guardiola won the tactical battle.
Ehm, Iniesta was injured, he wasn’t even on the bench so no that wasn’t a tactical change. And before the red card Barcelona had absolutely nothing, Madrid might’ve been closer to a goal actually (Ronaldo’s shot, Puyol-Piqué mix-up that lead to a chance for Ronaldo). Guardiola relies on Messi’s brilliance far too often for me to count him as a top manager. If Messi was out injured for 6 months, we could begin to grasp Guardiola’s real managerial skills, but now he’s just sitting there with the best team in the world, with the best player since Zidane in his prime who’s raking in goals, who’s breaking records in terms of goal scoring. I’m not saying Guardiola is a bad manager, because he sure as hell isn’t, he’s a freaking natural at this thing, but until I see him take a small club to success or even another top club, like perhaps Liverpool to a treble, then he’s nowhere close to Mou, Sir Alex and Wenger.
Well he did make big changes when he took over which took Barcelona to the next level. Getting rid of Deco-Ronaldinho, bringing up Busquets, moving Messi centrally, etc.
And as the poster noted above, fullbacks staying back, more cautious play, Masch as CB, Pedro-Villa inverted. I don’t give him credit for bringing in Afellay. That was obvious and should have been done ages ago as many suggested.
Overall though you’re right. Every manager should be tested with a small team. I do think Guardiola started off with Barcelona B and had success there which led to his promotion, no?
Hmmm .. wonder how many different top clubs did Sir Alex n Wenger take to CL glory (as opposed to Pep)…? Heh
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Yes. Can’t believe how many times ZM tries to make RM n Barca look the same, which they’re clearly not:
“For much of the contest, the objective of both sides seemed to be to get opposition players sent off, rather than actually try to score a goal”.
Yes barca was guilty of play-acting, just like RM, but can u blame them when it’s clear from this n last 2 classicos that Mou n his team are into boxing more that playing football. And it was all there to see from minute one who tried to play n score (barca) n who tried to bulldoze n hang on for a draw (RM). They got what they deserved, that’s it. End if story.
I guess so long as Pep keeps his class n dignity he will not be recognized (he doesn’t complain, always is humble to others etc). If he were to rant on like a fool n sore loser every time barca lost, then yes people like ZM n others here would praise him. Funny thing, so many people claim they know football n praise everything that’s not football or the spirit of the game!
In the pre-match program, he did go on a rant..
ZM – Mourinho’s on/off field tactis backfired on him. For all the RM’s physical exertions, Barcelona players decided to do some acting. Normally only Busquests and Alves do this. But even Pedro doing, I am sure, Pep must have asked them to do it at their will, to be frank a real way to pay back the fouls.
But on the footballing side, it is a disgrace that Mourinho plays this kind of 3 man defensive midfield with players like Ronaldo, Ozil, De Maria, Higuain, Kaka Benzema all at his disposal. The frustrated shout of Ronaldo, when he got nervous because of the triangular passing around him, is the best example. Isnt it a mistake to play this football with players like Ronaldo. It was so clear players were not asked to press, as long as ball is in the Barca half. Only Ronaldo seemed interested in attacking in those moments.
Also, to say may be an extra player would have stopped Messi’s second goal is really unfair. He ran through 5 RM players, repeat 5, all those who were in defensive duties and kept running ignoring a foul attempt. For me, that was the best goal for 10-11 season. Lucky to watch it live. After all, this match would be remembered only for this second goal after this season.
And its for the first time, I watch a Pep’ side, who didnt want to attack – in the first half. Even when they were against 10, Barca really didnt seem to care about going in top gear and score. Only Messi seemed interested in that, just like Ronaldo. That was quite shocking for me.
Are you trying to say that Pedro himself made fake marks on his thigh to pretend that Marcello stepped on him ?
no of course not. In fact, that horrible British commentators kept completely mum on that.
But as against in other games, Pedro too did some acting. thats all.
This not, but yellow card for Arbeola?
It’s true that Pedro did some acting in that play, but Arbeloa intentionally forgot about the ball and moved to block him to help stop a counter-attack. Acting or not, that is a yellow card always.
Dunno, replays were quite poor there, so I can’t be sure bout that but I think there was no significant movement on Arbeloa’s part in that play.
Arbeloa was really rough on his challenges, he clearly was told to target Pedro.
Why is it a yellow card if he didn’t have possession of the ball?
Shouldn’t it just be a foul?
Watch the game again. Arbeloa had screened Pedro twice before this and got away with it. Repeated offenses = Yellow!
I loved how this turned reckless Arbeloa into a cuddly kitten. He should start every match with a yellow.
Watch Ozil’s tactical foul on Alves at the same time as Arbeloa is tactically blocking Pedro’s run.
The RC should have been a yellow but RM deserve it. They went out with intent to soften up Barca with thuggish play during the previous 2. Would have been a good tactic if they had switched in this match as UEFA officials were never going to be as tolerant but Mourinho screwed up.
Guardiola approach was abviously conservative (more than usual) but it worked and ensured that Barcelona would keep the clean sheet unless some silly mistake from set piece happen ( + puyol and keita -> much more aerial ability)..
there was no feasible way barcelona could have conceded a goal unless real started to attack (which would have never happened with Murinho and then they would have been vulnerable at the back also)..
In terms of scoring, it came down to the third man in md, keita.. If he was technically better, he could make something near the box and produce a threat.. But he was not..
so the only way barcelona could score 11 vs 11 (well, messi’s individual astonishing moments are excluded of the assumption) was if the wingers (pedro,villa)were crossing in the box (like affelay did) for either messi or Keita as a mid runner to push the ball in…
How often has Pepe played in that position?? The red card foul was reminiscent of the Crouch-Bernabeu fouls for me. Yes, it wasn’t the worst foul ever but in that area of the pitch it just appears totally unnecessary. Either Pepe shouldn’t have been playing there or he should have been better prepared for what’s acceptable, maybe Mourinho’s to blame for that, but I don’t think the ref did anything wrong.
The problem with playing Pepe in the midfield, besides his utter lack of creativity, is that he’s too out of control when he has a lot of space in front of him to get a running start. When he’s back at CB that doesn’t happen as players are usually running at him, not the reverse, so his physical challenges are somewhat more controlled. In the midfield he’s like a runaway train with a sharp set of studs on the front of it and he has made some very disturbing challenges over the past few matches. The difference is that Spanish referees can be cowed by Real Madrid into not blowing the whistle, but that is not the case in the CL. I always thought that the Pepe as midfield tornado experiment would come crashing down in the SF.
Yes, the problem is that he’s essentially reducing his team to 10 already. Ozil is worthless without a player in MF whom he can link up with a bit. Alonso was too deep, Lass and Pepe are awful on the ball, Di Maria is busy wrestling with Alves and not a great passer anyway. Mourinho should have already seen this from the 2nd Clasico. Awful mistake.
What Pepe contributes in knocking and slowing down the Barca offense is negated by being absolutely worthless in attack. As soon as he gained possession he would kick it out or way too far upfield for Ronaldo. Mou’s supposed revelation turned out to be a nightmare.
An on form Gago would have been good in this match. A better ball winner, defender than Alonso and doesn’t panic with the ball at his feet like Pepe.
I thought Puyol was immense again, very good performance after spending such a long time injured and not even in his favorite position.
Madrid cant complain about red cards if you keep on doing what they do.. they were fortunate that Marcelo wasnt send off for a needless stamp on Pedro
My original feeling after watching the match was one of sympathy for Mourinho because I felt like he knew that Pep’s success with his theater tactics in the first leg meant that holding the cup consecutively was over. The only reason he was able to survive them with Inter was with good fortune and the fact that it occurred in the second leg. That being said, the attacking aspect of his defensive mantra was certainly suspect this time around and it seems like all the players want throw stones at the ref with him. One of these players happens to be his superstar. There is no doubt in my mind that this game has dampened Ronaldo’s relationship with his coach. We all remember what happened last time he was played alone up top in a champions league game against Barca. I’m not suggesting that he’ll provide a shock and leave, just that he’s not too hot on being so uninvolved. However, the difference in the two games was that Ronaldo probably would’ve seen much more action if Carrick hadn’t been shut down all night (and Fletcher’s absence) in the former. On the contrary, Madrid’s plan from the start didn’t look to place any special emphasis on getting him the ball. His frustration was understandable. Ronaldo’s role flexibility was tested here and in the end he wanted to receive and play/shoot rather than be used in a defensively dominated role with nothing but his running being showcased. Hopefully this game won’t make best games list.
Completely agree with most posters here that both sides were extremely cautious, especially in the first half. Real bunkered in their own half and Barca were not committing men forward to avoid running into counter attacks, like Germany at the recent World Cup the front three of Ronaldo, Oezil and di Maria on a good day will take the most direct way to the opponent’s goal and given their individual quality that can be devastating even for a side like Barca.
This time around though Xabi Alonso had a terrible game and Pepe as well as Lassana Diarra ( in his current form ) are just unable to play on the break. After the 0:5 Mou probably realized his side is just not ready ( yet ?! ) to outplay their perennial rivals and he switched to an approach of destroying their game and looking for the lucky punch by a counter attack, but Real failed to get the ball forward to their lightning quick attacking players.
Bringing in Adebayor was probably as much an attempt to get another option ( long balls to the top ) as motivated by his previous performances against Barca. Until Pepe’s sending off it worked out well enough too, he was putting pressure on the defensive passing triangle who were responsible for probably about two thirds of Barca’s possession.
While getting Real players sent off or banned for the return leg was clearly an integral part of Barca’s game plan I do believe the Red Card for Pepe was somewhat justified – it completely changed the game though and without it it would probably have finished at 0:0 or 1:0 for Real by some fluke. So Pep’s “tactics” worked, but I still think it was absolutely despicable.
What I found interesting about this game is not so much the formation Barcelona started with (typical 4-3-3…) but the unusual tactics they employed. It’s quite clear that Guardiola gave them a brief, for the first-half at least, to just keep possession in the backline and try to draw Madrid players out of their own half.
For those that doubt Guardiola’s tactical side I think this is a great example of how he spotted an issue and set his team out to remedy it. If you look at the last 2 games Real Madrid set themselves out to contest possession ONLY in their own half. It was a clever move basically saying “Ok, Barca can’t score in their own half so we’ll pack our half and engage them on mass when they cross the halfway line.” Guardiola saw this and how effective it was against his team so he changed tactics I think for 3 reasons:
1) Barca were away and Guardiola would happily take 0-0 back to the Camp Nou
2) Madrid were at home and needed a result
3) He feared a repeat of the 3-1 against Inter
By not attacking Guardiola was able to quiten the crowd and frustrate Madrid who were set-up to counter-attack.In that first half Alves didn’t venture forward (I think to guard against any possible Real counters), Barca happily kept possession in they’re backline and I think this really destabolized the Madrid team. They expected and trained for the usual Barca attack and suddenly realized that they would actually have to take up the initiative to get a result.
Another possible reason for this tactic was the “tiredness” factor which was apparent in the Arsenal game away and the Real game in the league. It looked in those games that Barca had tired after early onslaughts and were picked off with late goals. This may have been a consideration here for Pep. Maintain possession, probe but don’t over commit and finish the game with an attacking onslaught…
I think Guardiola deserves real credit for this tactical switch.
Like they say: you can only counter-attack if the other team attacks you first…
Great comment.
However, ZM will never write about that. Only if Mourinho did that, he would.
Give it a rest man. I happen to dislike Mourinho too, but he’s not where he is for nothing.
Where are you coming from saying ZM favors Mou?
Like they say: you can only counter-attack if the other team attacks you first
So Guardiola’s cunning plan was to not attack? My god, the man’s a genius.
In a sense, I think he knew that because Mou shoulders much of the hate for negative football already, it would make Barca’s absence in attack so subtle that few would notice. As a result, Mourinho loses and has furthered his reputation for boring football in the eyes of many. It’s a win-win for Pep.
Your sarcasm aside do you disagree with what I said Ray?
Guardiola set-up his team to negate Madrids obvious dangers on the counter-attack with both full-backs sticking to defensive duties instead of the usual bombing forward.
This is similar to Mourinho’s tactics of making Madrid’s full-backs play a more conservative game against Barcelona.
Guardiola instructed his players to maintain possession in their own half where Madrid don’t play a pressing game. Madrid needed to win, Barcelona didn’t. This was clever for many reasons.
1) It quieten the crowd
2) It conserved energy
3) It ensured Madrid had very little possession
4) It ensured Madrid had very few attacks
5) It frustrated the Madrid players by basically taunting them in their own pitch
6) It forced Madrid to press higher if they wanted to win
Basically the result of this tactic is Madrid continue defend in numbers in there own half and Barcelona happily take a 0-0 to the Camp Nou or Madrid take the bait, press higher up the pitch leaving Barcelona with more room to play their own game…
Do you not think this is a clever tactic?
No, I don’t because one of your main assumptions is wrong. Madrid did not need to win. Mourinho would have been quite satisfied with 0-0 in the first leg and looking for an away goal in the second leg. Most of the reasons why you say this was clever apply equally to Madrid’s tactic of only pressing when the ball entered their half
1) It conserved energy
2) It ensured Barcelona had very little possession in dangerous areas
3) It ensured Barcelona had very few attacks
4) It forced Barcelona to attack in more numbers if they wanted to win
Apparently Mourinho’s game plan was to keep the ball out of the net for the first half, then attack in the last twenty minutes or so with Kaka in. This is quite believable, given their performance. Real Madrid were not set up in a counter-attacking manner as such, and their primary role was clearly to simply soak up time, not get tired and be ready to strike when necessary. Given this, I’m not sure that they would have really minded all that much if Barcelona didn’t put that much effort into scoring. It would have probably been more useful against how Madrid played in the first half of the Copa Del Rey match, but Mourinho’s tactics in this game are practically the opposite of that.
Fair enough Ray, we disagree on a fundamental assumption. I think you might even be right that Mourinho would have been happy with a 0-0 and the players too if they had to defend courageously and managed to fight off a Barcelona onslaught. I think even the fans would have accepted it (end will justify the means).
But Madrid didn’t have to fight off an onslaught. Barcelona just pinged the ball around in front of them – This highlighted their defensive mindset and had a psychological affect on the team. The crowd was quietened and the Madrid players were left frustrated. If Mourinho had allowed that to continue Madrid would go into the return leg humiliated. Can you honestly tell me that the likes of Ronaldo, Ozil, Alonso wouldn’t be affected by such a game?
Madrid would have happily taken a battling 0-0 with the chance of a counter-attack. Guardiola negated any chance of a counter and tried to taunt Madrid into playing Barcelona’s game.
Madrid couldn’t just surrender at home and take a 0-0 in does circumstances…
It’s Real Madrid we’re talking about, not some third division team…
Well Said.
But I was still not happy to see Barca not trying to attack, very un Barca.
I wrote this on the preview last night so apologies for repeating myself here…
I note in the article this line:
“So, with Barcelona enjoying around 65% of possession in the first half, the game’s major issue was this – how could Barcelona transform their dominance of the ball into goals.”
In most games I would agree with this statement but in last nights game Barcelona went out specifically to hold possession and try to tempt Real Madrid to venture out of their own half. The “major issue” in my opinion was Mourinho’s. He had to decide whether to continue with his gameplan even though the attacking aspect of that plan had been completely negated by the positioning and conservatism of Alves and Puyol.
The problem with sitting back in these circumstances is that you will loose the crowd because they have nothing to cheer (either in an attacking or defensive sense) and this affects the players. You could see the frustration in the likes of Ronaldo and Ozil but other players must have also been discouraged and distracted by this.
I think tactically Guardiola won the psychological battle. Real Madrid players became indecisive and unsure.
In the end the circumstances dictate the tactics and under the circumstances Madrid needed to go out and get a win, Barcelona didn’t. Real Madrid were at home and that’s the point that seems to be missed in most of the post-match analysis. It’s a bit like the 1-1 in the league. Mourinho was lauded for his tactics even though the result he needed was a win, not a draw.
Mourinho set-up his team not to loose and Guardiola set-up his team to shine a spotlight on that fact.
I think this was a very clever tactic that should be highlighted.
Yes, the 1-1 was a total failure. It’s funny how people began putting a positive spin on that. Well, I guess it’s better than 5-0. The game was quite even but only because RM was given license to hack and foul like crazy. Anyhow it should have ended 1-0 for Barca because Marcelo’s penalty was a complete dive.
Mourinho came out with the same failed tactics (still failing to realize that Ozil was completely wasted in this formation with these tactics!). ZM does have a slight bias towards Mourinho. You can tell cause when a manager makes a sub at halftime, ZM usually says that he’s admitting his starting lineup was wrong. This time he said nothing about it. Not only did it not work before but it would be even less effective given the tighter officiating in CL. He should have come out with the tactics he used in CDR which actually did work well. In addition he failed completely to adjust to the RC. This will go down as Morinho’s worst tactical match.
I agree, it was a clever switch.
By luring Madrid midfielders on Barca’s half, Messi and Villa had more space to run into in the second half. Although the Barca defence sometimes looked wobbly, they were generally comfortable enough on the ball to pass around oncoming Madrid players.
This way, Barca could also draw fouls at the front (getting Ramos suspended for the return leg) and at the back (red for Pepe, yellow for Adebayor).
Even i find it surprising that Pep’s tactical nous was not commented on. I do not follow ZM as much but it seems that he is as much in love with Mou as rest of english media.
I thought Pep had a very good tactical plan. After last two matches, he knew that going all out would expose Barca to counter attack, especially with changed back line. Hence we rarely saw Alves or Puyol joining in attack. This basically put Real’s plan of counter attack out of window. Also Pep knew that in Xavi and Messi, he had two guys who are able to conjure something up from thin air. Finally this was CL SF first leg away, a draw would have been fine result. In any case, Pep’s record in european away matches is nothing to write about.
Pepe’s foul helped in allowing more space to Barcelona. So did introduction of Afellay who was much more direct and also willing to stay along the byline.
I have never rated Mourinho as a tactical manager. He is a great man manager no doubt. And these matches just prove the point. His tactic of playing barcelona has been same as so many other managers since before.
Instructing your players to dive, act and crowd the referee at every opportunity is hardly the sign of a tactical genius in my book. Pep was looking for the lucky break just as much as Mou was, unfortunately he got his while his counterpart didn’t.
And that break relied on a dubious decision by Mr. Starke rather than Barca’s own efforts.
Thinking there were instructions like that is so completely insane, there are just no words for it. Brainwashed by the English tabloids and talking heads.
I’m not English and I rarely read English tabloids. Thanks for asking.
You don’t have to read them to be affected by them. It’s spread fairly easy.
Its funny, just above someone is commending the cleverness of Pep’s plan to draw fouls…
Mourinho’s team will always make fouls, you don’t have to draw anything. And even less when he has a Pepe, an Arbeloa or a Sergio Ramos in his team. Pretty sure Mourinho preferred his back-fours at Chelsea or Inter that had more mentally stable and experienced players.
I was disgusted in him after the game too because I’m scared he might use the same theatrics in the final too. Still, Barca probably would’ve won/drawn regardless just because he did do what he was supposed to do: bring Real out of their half by keeping it at the back and maintaining possession, hoping also to invite any aggressiveness by Madrid so that they could use it against them. Unfortunately, Pep is still butthurt from losing last year and was purely out to embarrass no matter how unfair his instructions had to be. I lost alot of respect for him after that.
Bull***. all this nonsense about cheating and diving, you see it in every league every week and Barca are no better or worse. it just so happens they are frequently on the biggest stage so we get to see it in big games. i see it every week in amateur football for godsakes!
Amateur. Key word there.
I think your right Blippo. Pep was “looking for the lucky break” with the way he set-up his team but you have to concede that he went about it in a much more structured way then Mourinho.
He spread Pedro and Villa onto the wings and quite often in the first half Pique ping long diagonals to pick them out. This allowed them space to cut in on the full-backs and get pick a pass or get a shot away. Villa did this to good effect, Pedro not so much.
Ventures into Madrids half were always conservative but it was all about drawing Madrid out rather then penetrating them. Pep would have loved to have played an expansive, open game but circumstances didn’t allow it.
Madrid were setup to stop Barcelona and get a lucky breaks.
Barcelona were setup to stop Madrid getting lucky breaks and force them to play. If Madrid decided not to then Barcelona were happy to look for lucky breaks themselves. If Madrid decided to attack then that’s the game that Barcelona wanted from the start.
Do you see the difference? Barcelona were setup to take a draw or get Madrid to play Barcelona’s type of game.
Both teams crowded the referees. Re-watch the match.
Really, this is tiresome. There is nothing dubious about this decision. Any decent referee will see that one player goes to kick the ball with his instep, and the other goes in straight-legged with his studs. This is evidence of intent, and exactly what referees rely on when deciding to send a player off.
I completely agree here. I don’t think Pep’s tactics are given enough credit.
Compared to the Copa del Rey final, Real Madrid pretty much started the same way, whereas Barcelona made a lot of adjustments (not necessarily to the formation, but on the finer details).
It seems that Pep has figured Mourinho’s gameplan out before the game. Madrid would sit back, let Barcelona play around with the ball at high speed, press them a bit, find an opportunity to counter attack, then around 60th minute add striker and attacking midfield to force a goal as Barcelona would have been tired of passing the ball around. Pep’s answer to that was to restrain the full-backs, keep passing the ball but not necessarily at high speed, don’t force too much, and wait. 0-0 would have been an ideal position for Pep anyway.
What I saw is that Barcelona played with the back four taking care of the two wingers (di Maria and Ronaldo), Busquets marking Ozil. Villa and Pedro take on Marcelo and Arbeloa. As Madrid’s two defenders + 3 DMs are essentially busy tracking Messi, Xavi and Keita, this makes it easier for Barca’s defense to negate any counter attacks. Barcelona made sure they didn’t tire and were holding out for the space that should open up (and did) once the players are tired.
The red card (which I don’t agree with – should have only been a yellow) forced things the wrong way for Mourinho. But instead of dealing with it by making a tactical change, he just let Barcelona come at Madrid. In Bernabeu!
Mourinho’s game plan might work for a one legged final (ie Copa del Rey) but for a two legged semifinal with the first game at home it’s too risky.
Exactly my point, well said. I think your dead-on about the positional sense too. Villa and Pedro ensured the Madrid full-backs couldn’t push forward further negating the Madrid threat.
Agree with both of you on Guardiola’s tactics, fullbacks staying at home, Pedro and Villa wide: brilliant.
Our eyes just fell on the upper right corner of this blog. Never really noticed it, but things make more sense now…
Mr Mou has big mouth and very bad tempered coach but He has clear defense plan against Barca side. Barca do not come to attack in this leg but somehow referee seal the game for them.
It seems like that barca do not has much variation of tactic except minor changing Messi’s position and pushing up Pique when they need goal.
Well,hard luck for Mr Mou and let see how things will go in next season.
What a disgraceful event full of diving, playacting, bullying the referee, and worst of all a complete lack of imagination from the visiting side which spent the first 45mins passing along their back four afraid of being counter attacked.
English Football > Mickey Mouse Cheating ball
Who’s without sin can throw the first stone. As if there’s no diving or play-acting or referee bullying in English football. Mourinho himself named Drogba, Ronaldo, Torres and Van Persie as the EPL top divers when he was in Italy. And right so, probably. It’s from all countries, from all times. And an English football fan who complains about a lack of imagination. I rest my case. The tabloids make the English people dumb, self-centred and arrogant.
excellent reply
I can’t think of an English game I’ve ever seen with multiple players on one team pretending like they got hit in the face when they did not. Maybe one here or there, but not 2 different players on the same team in the same game. I’ve never seen a guy in England get stretchered off after not being touched in the first place.
Nick’s statement is an indictment of this particular game, not the entirety of football outside of England. I agree that it is from all countries, but I watch England’s football most of all, and I’ve never seen as much of a disgrace as I saw in this game.
Drogba always fake and dive. V.Persie and Cesc… Torres, Gerrard… Nani is also a master.
Umm… Drogba, Ronaldo, Torres and Van Persie don’t have an English passport last time I checked. But I do agree that it’s from all countries all the time. Let’s hope there is more of this http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-sport/aleague-duo-banned-for-diving-20100830-1474a.html and less of this http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CB8QtwIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DDDIBCYc654c&rct=j&q=a%20league%20diving&ei=7V66TeetNpC8vgPJgJm7BQ&usg=AFQjCNEmk65vsPQOCUPUFiHVf5MINC9CTA&cad=rja.
I find it really strange that Ozil gets scarificed. Yes he completed only two passes but he probably only received about half a dozen. the poor pass completion also speaks of the fact he had very few options to play a meaningful ball forward.
And to start such a game with no true forward players? If Kaka and Benzema played, ronaldo could have had real support from ball playing attack-minded players. When Mou won the CL with Inter Eto and Milito were on the pitch ahrrying the back four – so why did he leave his best strikers out again? Especially as all of them are on form?
If anyone deserved to go off it was Ronaldo, who seemed to be resigned to defeat after the sending off.
This was the worst mistake. Mourinho should have already seen from the previous match that Ozil is wasted in this formation with these tactics. He did nothing to change that and replaced him at halftime — admitting his starting formation was wrong.
I must say that for all its apparently even handed tone, this article seems quite biased against Guardiola.
To put it simply, it’s an article about how Mourinho lost the game, and not at all an article about Guardiola won the game.
Yes, the article is balanced enough to include the paragraph which begins, “Barcelona sat deeper than usual at the back…” but it offers it as a mere afterthought, as if Barcelona’s fundamental approach to the game were incidental to the result.
The writer’s point of view is given away fairly early in the article. “The main question before the game was how Real would play without the ball.” And not how Barcelona would adjust to the fact that Madrid had *won* the previous encounter. If the writer was determined to luxuriate in Mourinho’s mind, shouldn’t the main question have been how Real would play *with* the ball? Oh, that’s right, Mourinho doesn’t want the ball. And Barcelona was happy to accommodate him, refusing to be naively gallant or to let themselves be bullied.
The folks at Zonal Marking are a smart lot and I appreciate their dedication to tactics, unadulterated by any concern for strategy, but I do wish they’d occasionally dislodge their noses from the backside of someone as utterly classless as Mourinho.
Also no mention of using Keita as an enforcer. In the first 10 minutes of the game, the hardest fouls were dished out by Keita. I also agree that Barça were purposefully sitting back. None of this was mentioned…
Keita’s strength mentioned later on
Another barca-wonder fanboy moaning like the scumbags yesterday in the pitch. Crybabies.. grow up.
Another class-less madrid fanboy jabbing his mouth off. Shut Up.
Another lover of the 500 mil euro fascist-team, or if you prefer, another lover of shit-on-a-stick football from the one and only tactical genius Mourinho
I was fascinated to see Dani Alves almost never cross the halfway line in the first half.
He stayed level with an equally conservative Puyol for all but a few occasions.
Perhaps Barca expected Real to press high as they had in the Copa del Rey final and wanted to be able to retain posession easier when pressed.
It added an extra option for ball retention at the back. Alves is usually too far advanced to present a short pass for the right-sided centre back when he is closed down. Last night, Mascherano was always able to use Alves as an outlet, as Pique was on the other side with Puyol.
It may also have been a reaction to the problems Real caused them in wide areas, particularly in the lead up to the extra time goal in the Copa del Rey final.
Even in the second half after Pepe’s sending off, I don’t remember either full back overlapping the winger.
Agree with you Psisk. I think the fact that Alves was so conservatives shows quite clearly that Barcelona changed their strategy for this encounter. I also remember Villa at one stage chipping the Real midfield to get the ball back to Pique in defense.
Guardiola gave clear instructions to his players on how to negate the counter-attacks and where to retain possession.
issues i would like someone to help me with:
* why exactly did puyol have a good game? does his physicality explain it all? or is it because ronaldo had a poor game? why didn’t mourinho explore the possibility of using di maria on the right, so that he could drift in and use his left foot?
* what were the briefs of each of the three barcelona central midfielders? match stats tell me xavi made the most passes, but most of them were exchanged with busquets. keita did not bother much about the ball – i have not been able to find tackle stats for him. busquets, on the other hand, is second on the pass-list and has exchanged passes with all the others in the top-passers list. so, did guardiola pull a fast one there by asking xavi to be a ball retainer and busquets to be the creator? that would fit into ZM’s theory that barcelona sat relatively deep – busquets was the deeper of the three.
* has it become a recognised barcelona strategy to look for the red card against teams that park the bus? if space is not available, then literally create it?
“Why didn’t Mourinho explore the possibility of using di maria on the right, so that he could drift in and use his left foot?”
That would have just helped out Puyol. If Di Maria’s cutting inside then he’s going onto Puyol’s favoured foot and helping him out in an unfamiliar position.
“has it become a recognised barcelona strategy to look for the red card against teams that park the bus? if space is not available, then literally create it?”
Or maybe Real Madrid should stop making awful tackles?
Who cares if he’s cutting into Puyol’s favorite foot? Di Maria has the class to beat Puyol there especially since Puyol has never even played that position.
Another awful tactical mistake by Mourinho. He failed to adjust to the fact that Alves was not venturing forward which meant that Di Maria was not needed on the left to double on Alves. He should have explored moving him to the right to test Puyol and moved CR to the right — his favored position where he’d be up against Alves and Mascherano rather than Puyol and Pique, i.e. air threat.
It matters because it’s making Puyol more comfortable there. Di Maria can beat him there but Puyol can beat him as well. If you have Ozil or Ronaldo then they are going to favour their right foot and go out wide which causes Puyol far more problems than someone cutting inside.
I can only really answer the first one. You can either say Ronaldo had a bad game, or Puyol’s physicality stopped Ronaldo from making an impact. It really depends on how you view the game.
And the last one. Could you have said that any of the fouls and cards given to Barca’s rivals have been undeserved? Sure, that red card against Pepe was harsh but it was a studs up high challenge. Before you make that comment, look at the incident of where it happened. I’m guessing the reason why teams that park the bus against Barca get carded is because they’re often physical which means higher rates of fouling and thus higher rates of carding.
my third question was not really about the quality of real’s tackles.
yes, there is a high probability of tackles and red cards in a park-the-bus game. But, are barcelona players being asked to go out and draw fouls if space isn’t available? (my favourite examples from the recent past are robben and iniesta in the second half against brazil and the netherlands respectively). since they make so many movements off the ball, it’s possible that a defender caught off-guard could stick his foot out in the spur of the moment.
i wonder why none has even attempted to answer my second poser?
You nailed it. Mourinho’s inability to notice that Alves was instructed to not cross the midfield was astounding. This was the most obvious difference in Barca’s play. I’ve never seen Alves play so conservatively. ZM has an entire article on Alves and deems him to be arguably the most important part of Barca’s offense. Yet this is not even mentioned.
The entire purpose of Di Maria on the left was to double on Alves when he made these runs. When this was no longer necessary, Di Maria should have been shifted to the left to test Puyol and CR should have been shifted to the right to play in his favorite position and to be matched up against Alves and Mascherano who are less likely to deal with this aerial prowess than Pique and Puyol.
It would also probably have allowed Ozil to get more involved as he works very well with di Maria who was to wide to get involved with buildup.
the contest ended with that red card but the game was already a farce…i was surprised by the number of times both sides got away with it..Dani Alves has got to be the biggest crook in the book, its unbelievable that such a talented player such as he is does this so frequently and gets away with it…and this crowding the referee thing has got to stop and some regulation needs to come to stop it…does UEFA have a bringing the game into disrepute law?
..as for tactics, i believe both barca and real were playing the waiting game. the red card changed the game entirely. it does almost seem like barca need a red card to win games in the Champions league and that’s a real pity. As a Utd fan, we all want barca in the final without a doubt for some payback from last time around and I have no pity for Ronaldo who has earned a self entitled attitude since moving to Madrid…he no longer defends, most likely win many trophies or ever dominate a league again.
*never win
*never win..website’s actin funny
Hope the finals is ManU vs Barca, then we can see a better football match.
Real Madrid vs Barca is becoming way too cynical to watch or to even considered an “El Clasico,” I don’t see rivalries, i see hatred.
At least, there’s a saner rivalry betwen ManU and Barca
A very non-football match for the most part….
Neither Real nor Barça did anything to win the game, before Pepe was rightfuly sent off.
A very disapointing game, all in all.
Messi’s goals were the only bright spots.
My reading is that Guardiola completely out thought Jose.
First, his press conference in which he laid into Mourinho’s mind games and intimidation for the first time. His players applauded him on his return afterwards. Then he decided that, if Real weren’t going to attack then neither would he. I thought there could be a snooker style ‘re-rack’ after about 25 minutes. It was stalemate. But Mourinho’s bluff had been called. You could see Ronaldo and hear the crowd get frustrated. Also, very regrettably, Barça stooped very low and fought Real in their own gutter. Busquets, Pedro and Alves are serial offenders in injury feigning but the surrounding of the referee to an extent only dreamt of by John Terry and Roy Keane was a deliberate attempt not to be bullied.
Of course, it worked. I think the red card was justified; knee high challenges with studs showing usually get red. But the hounding of the ref may well have helped. Then Jose imploded, Barça scored twice and the rant of rants about conspiracies and fixes followed.
This was a rout for Mourinho, a major victory for Guardiola on and off the pitch.
Brilliant comment.
Excellent post!!!
Have you considered a career in journalism? Well said.
Agree with you completely. I think the pre-match press conference was a particularly good move by Pep. It wasn’t so much a war of words between Pep and Mourinho as Jose never had his chance to respond.
Pep was silent all season long never responding to Jose’s jibes. Even even the first 2 games of the series Pep kept quiet. But the night before the biggest game of the season he let rip. This was clever because it was the last word before the game – so Jose could not respond – and it was purely done to lift the dressing room. It wasn’t an outburst of a spur of the moment thing, it was a calculated decision and I think it released a great deal of tension in the dressing room.
There is too much about this game that I think Guardiola got tactically wrong…
*There ISN’T too much*
Seems that zonal marking is useless against a team who prefer possession to scoring goals. I think it may be time for a shot clock in football.
A shot clock in football? That’s a new one.
I’m surprised nobody has mentioned Xavi’s forward runs. He frequently ventured deeper into Real territory than Messi, who would drop back to lure Pepe out of his zone. I thought the tactic worked quite well and produced some of the best chances in the 1st half.
Bravo to Guardiola, he won this game for Barca. And I think we will continue to see pitch theatrics as long as we see brutal tackles.
Why people start to talk about shot clocks? Where are they from? I don’t want to see useless shots from 30 yards because the defending team sits deeep and clock is running down. this is not a basketball court!
A shot clock would lead to ultra defensive teams becasue they don’t have to win the ball. they only have to ‘wait’ for it. I don’t see any good in a shot clock in football. this is not Basketball and it is not a set piece sport like American Football.
Have you ever seen a basketball team that only stays in their side of the court and never tries to shoot a basket? If you want a shot clock then you should also implement the 3 seconds in the key (penalty area) rule to get Madrid out of their own half.
Madrid/Mourinho chose to play that way and need to own up to the consequence of that choice. Just because they sit back and make no attempt to attack doesn’t mean Barca should be attacking the entire time.
Just wanted to say that the red card did not in fact give barca any more dominance over the ball. The possession showed on screen about 10 minutes before the red was 71-29 and the possession showed at the end of the game was the same.
In Defense of Exaggeration
Until better refereeing (or maybe some sort of retrospective video analysis of fouls) gets players who want to play football and not rugby resort to exaggeration to call attention to legitimate fouls. An exception to this is penalty area diving which is indefensible.
A permissive referee, or one that does not set the right tone for the game with necessary early cards, will result in a scrappy physical match with an inverse proportionality between quality and risk of injuries. Had Dani Alves’ foot been planted on the ground we would be having a very different conversation about Pepe’s challenge destroying the career of the best right back in the world.
Exaggeration can prevent injuries and make the play better.
Agreed on all counts.
A clear consequence of deliberate, rotational fouling is to establish the fouling team’s harmful intent in the referee’s mind. This in effect hands an advantage to the opposition, which they would be stupid not to exploit via simulation.
That’s exactly what Spain did against Holland in the WC final. And what Barca did against Real last night.
“If you’re going to foul me recklessly, I’m going to protect myself by diving recklessly.”
I say well done to Pep and co. Noblesse oblige is for suckers.
I agree with a lot of posters that this was a really poor game and had just a few points to make.
Firstly, I don’t see much wrong with Barca sitting on the ball in their own half. 0-0 away from home in Europe where they’re record isn’t great (lost away to Arsenal, drew with Ruben Kazan etc) without Iniesta and a defense featuring Masherano at centre half and Puyol at left back would be a grand result for them. What I don’t get is why Mourinho didn’t try to exploit this. Real have played some great attacking football this season. Yes, they got destroyed in the league by Barca earlier in the year, but that was away, early in the season to a full strength Barca. Playing a Man City-esque 3 defensive midfielders at home seems ridiculous to me. I can see why you would do it away. But at some point, Madrid had to score to win (over 2 legs) given the weakness of Barca’s defense last night would have been a better bet than at the Nou Camp.
In terms of diving (and remembering this is a tactics board) I think it was a pretty astute move by Barca. They knew Mourinho always has his players come out aggressively against them, they’re never going to overpower that Madrid team so they just made a meal of every single tackle Madrid made and it worked, as Pepe got sent off. Mourinho really cannot have any complaints as his Porto side did exactly the same thing against Celtic in the UEFA cup final 6 or 7 years ago (I seem to remember his players liking a tumble at Chelsea and Inter as well).
Anyone noticed how every time Busquets was making a run in attack, the player who man-marked Xavi forced to track him, resulting in opening up space for Xavi to move in?
Red card won the game for Barcelona. First half Barcelona created practically nothing, couple of long range shots, and despite their massive domination of posession, the best chances actually fell to Madrid. Start of the second half, helped by the introduction of Adebayor, Madrid were starting to get at Madrid, whilst still remaining disciplined and organised, however, soon as Pepe goes off, BANG, thats it. The two things Madrid probably least want happening, both happen. A) Xavi has more time to dictate play in midfield, and B) Messi gets to play between the lines and is more free to run at the defence.
Madrid weren’t innocent of dirty tactics, but then again the so called ‘experts’ don’t fall over themselves with praise for Madrid saying they play the perfect game, and play football as it should be played. The way Barcelona play act and hound the referee is a disgrace. Pedro, Busquets and Alves, three quality players, but the way they go down and feign injury is an embarassement, and alot is spoken about how English players don’t respect refs, well, they are angels compared to the likes of Busquets, if players of English teams hounded referees like that in a game, there would be outcry!
Another thing the so called ‘experts’ are doing is falling over themselves with praise for Messi. 120 minutes in Copa Del Ray, against 11 Madrid players, he was anonymous, couldn’t influence the game at all. Up until Pepe got sent off, he was anonymous again. Yes his goals were good, but the way people have made out he’s the greatest player of all time, is well over the top, his second goal was hardly Maradona v England was it, he had more space because Madrid were down to 10, and he took it past about 2 tiring Madrid players… Yes, Ronaldo was poor yesterday, for me though, he’s still the best in the world, still better than Messi, just opinion of course.
Definitely think Mourinho missed a trick by not going with Adebayor from the start though.
Messi went through five players, actually. But that’s pretty close to two so I can understand the mistake.
Just watched the entire first half myself. Messi was the best player on the pitch. Some lovely touches and runs and a great pass through to Xavi whose shot was straight at the keeper. In the Copa Del Rey Messi was Barca’s best player and looked to be taking control in the second half even in a deeper position.
As for the second goal, it wasn’t up with Maradona’s against England but that doesn’t stop it being a grea goal. No one was saying it was up with Maradona’s.
As for comparison with Ronaldo, Messi has double the assists this season, about ten more goals with about half the shots and far more passes overall. And he’s not a spoilt brat unlike Ronaldo.
For my money, Messi’s first goal was the gem. Yes, he can dribble like no one else, but we only remember the times he succeeds at beating his markers, not the many times he fails (like his run at 5 Madrid players, after which he knocked his own rebound back to Xavi, leading to the pass to Affellay for the first goal). But the first goal- his timing of his run is brilliant, and he had 5 defenders between him and Affelay. He starts off walking, shifts to a jog, then puts on the afterburners. This isn’t a matter of taking advantage of a tired 10-man D, it’s smart sly aggression. Alonso, who was initially marking him, just let him go, and no one else picked him up.
At 1-0 down, Madrid were still alive in the competition.
There is no excuse for letting Messi skin your entire midfield and defense to score that vital 2nd away goal. Doesn’t matter if you have 11 or 10 men, you put him on his bum. Such horrible defending should cost you a place in the CL finals.
Dude, Busquets just hands the ball — hands the ball! — off to Messi with one, two, three, four, five defeders PLUS A KEEPER all capable of making a stop. How can you NOT praise that?
Only retards think Ronaldo is anywhere near Messis level.Ronaldo is shit,give me a fit Robben over him any day.
I think more than anything this really comes down to the two philosophies of the clubs. Guardiola was raised in Barcelona, he has the experience of having been a star player their in the 90s, and having been coached by Cruyff, who is the philosophical father of modern Barca.
Barca probably played their best football for me in the 08-09 sextuple winning season, because they played brilliant passing football without being over-reliant upon it. Two years ago passing possession was NOT the ONLY way to play for this team, as it is now. When do you ever see Barca lob the ball downfield, or even play some crosses for headers? Almost never. The 08-09 Barca was perfect, and it is no coincidence that they have not been able to reclaim the treble since that year, failing to do so last season and this season.
Don’t get me wrong, Barca is still the best, but I believe they are making a big error by trying to establish possession football as the “only way to play the game” and trying to make it sound like teams who’s strength lie elsewhere should be ridiculed.
Guardiola himself was a great player, someone who has played in CL finals and won and lost them, and has won many La Liga title as well. He knows how to make life-death decisions at the moment as a player, he knows that despite tactics, anything can happen on the field. A defender or attacker can fail to implement the tactic for a split second, can lose concentration, and that can be enough to score or let a goal in. Guardiola knows this better than Mourinho because he has lived it in a sterling career.
Mourinho is like a scientist. His approach to football is 100% academic and without the base knowledge of someone who has played at the professional level. He is without a doubt a great coach, but it is rather more accurate to describe him as the greatest tactician, not the greatest coach. A coach is someone who knows and understands and has EXPERIENCED those split second moments when tactics can fail you and individual brilliance can shine through. I respect Mourinho much like I respect Marcelo Bielsa for that combination of tactical brilliance, gutsy attitude and media personality. It is entertaining, it is funny, and enjoyable. It also works, a lot of the time.
Realistically, I can’t fault either coach for managing the way that they do. Mourinho has had unbridled success with Porto, Chelsea and Inter before Madrid. Guardiola has had immense success with Barca, although I will point out that AC Milan also made 3 finals in 5 seasons (03, 05, 07), so Barca making it in 06, 09, 11 is not revolutionary.
More than anything I want to see if Pep Guardiola can go to another team in a different league and play a different style of football (not possession) and still win. I think he is a very good coach, but I reserve judgement til I see him do more elsewhere. His entire life has been Barca, Cruyff, possession total football style since he was a kid. I would be surprised if he didn’t authoritatively spank that crap out of world football right now.
What Mourinho does is much more difficult. IMO. Yes Mourinho has had lots of funds. But everyone knows how hard it is to get a bunch of stars to gel together. The La Masia way is the right way, but it takes a long time to come to fruition. Barca was pretty poor between 1999-2004, but they have dominated world football along with ManUtd since then.
I’m a Madrid fan, but I’m tired of the crap. From where I stand, Barca and Madrid each won a game, and they drew another. The results of these 4 clasicos will end with Madrid taking 1 of the cups, and Barca playing for the other, likely winning it. Overall, I just want to say that I feel blessed to witness these 4 games. Thanks.
I remember hearing a famous South American coach say that La Masia is actually a little sensationalized and that he would actually be fired or in danger of losing his job if he debuted as few of players as Barca debuts in their 1st team.
Yes, they produce absolute quality from La Masia but it pales in comparison to South America and to the plaudits they get world wide. I think it was like 5% of all their players debut.
They invest a lot but really they buy quite a bit of expensive jewels over the years: Marquez, Milito, Masche, Ronny, Henry, Villa, Alves, Keita, Toure, Afellay, Gudjonsen, Riquelme, Abidal, Zambrotta, Thuram, Deco etc…
But you can’t take away the fact they seem to buy better and adapt those players into their way.
You can’t argue the same about Madrid, they seem to buy recklessly and have lost the Madrid way when they produced guys like Hierro, Buitre, Raul and bought quality guys like Seedorf, Makelele, Redondo. They seem to be buying better these days but are behind the likes of others still in forming the core.
Just a few points worth noting for this really:
- This wasnt a bad game per se, there were no amateurs playing on either side. It just wasnt pretty to watch at all.
- The fact that this was played on a high level and in an important setting especially ment that, as always, the decisive point wasnt an individual heroic effort, but rather an individual mistake.
- Pepes foul was exactly that: A silly mistake. Apart from being in a pointless position there, on his level you have to know – you foul like that in a CL-game, you see a red card. Like it or not, but thats the UEFA-standpoint, and I personally think its justified completly.
- That being said, whilst overly aggressive play destroys football (and footballers) and should be stopped, there is the other side to this. No, not diving – dives happen, but they are hard to judge and happen in split-seconds. The real issue is complaints to the ref, and the demanding of cards for opposition players. Both Barca and Real excel at this, and it is horrible and should be sanctioned much harder. Refs make mistakes, and thats okay. Players should stick to football, and keep their mouths shut, especially on the pitch.
- Apart from that, tactically I think both managers had the right idea: Play cautious – RM obviously in a deeper position, Barca more via safe possesion- and rely on individual strength and speed to create a possible goal. You dont go all-out in a first leg in the CL. It worked pretty well for most of the game for both sides, and I can see no fault in both Guardiolas and Mourinhos logic – a 0-0 would have been a decent result for both of them, Mou hoping for a single decisive goal at Camp Nou, Pep relying on their home strength and the fan momentum to carry them to victory in Barcelona. A gamble, maybe, but preferable to losing the first leg and then facing a closed down opposition in the second.
- The mistakes made can only be pointed out in hindsight. Seeing how Barca won, there isnt really much to be said about them. For Real, one can imagine a few things that might have gone down differently:
1. Mou could have decided to press up a bit higher then he did, at least in the second half. Iniesta not playing would have left the Barca offense without a valuable assett, and whilst Keita had a good game, Mou could have dared to put more pressure on, just to cause a few more breaks from his side.
2. Kaka really should have played instead of Özil. Özil really seems to lack the physique to put pressure on the possesion football of Barca, and despite his spectacular development, he yet isnt the player to singlehandedly turn a game arround. Kaka, with all his experience, could have done more about that – if only because Busquets didnt have the last 2 games in a row to accomodate to him like he could to Özil.
3. With Alves playing more cautiously (which was clear after the first half at least) and Puyol not being the most offensive Full Back in the history of football obv., I think the Real Full Backs and Wingers could have done more to support the attack play. Of course, you really cant discard the threat of Villa and Pedro/Affeley, but trying to go through Keita, Busquets, Masquerano and Piquet to score a goal would seem even more futile – putting the game on the flanks and getting support from behind could have been the way to go, especially with Adebayor on the pitch (and remembering the way the winning goal was scored in the Copa).
- So overall, there isnt too much to be said. A cautious, mainly boring game between two very skilled sides being decided because of an individual mistake, and Barcas capacity to capitalize on that (a sidenote about Messi is in order: Is he the best in the world? I think so. No, he doesnt always shine, but when it comes down to it, he uses its chances like no other player I know. At the heart of it, Barca is a unit of course, but Messi is its star, and the goals he score do make the difference time and time again). Could have been a better game – but maybe we’ll see that when Mou tries to do the impossible and score 3 at the Camp Nou.
The attitude of the barcelona apologists is really amazing. They say every team has divers, Yes. They dive and get free kicks. But do Di Maria, Ronaldo or Van persie ever catch their face and scream like scumbags when their shoulders are touched in a tackle? Pedro runs himself willfully into Arbeola when the ball is no where near and blocked. Then he clutches the face as if his face has been torn. Busquets did his usual job with marcelo. If this is what happens everyday in football with all teams, I surely have not watched such games at least.
The criticism of Mourinho’s tactics as ‘negative’ speaks volumes about the attitude of the beautiful-football-aka Barcelona-supporters. Yes, it was defensive and they did not want to concede territory in the first half. Ronaldo was frustrated, but that was the gameplan. He was happy not to concede the away goal and go to nou camp and try to score the most important goal. Surely in the second half we saw a slightly different tactics with more movement forward and Kaka and Granero was waiting to come on. But the inevitable happened before that, this time Alves goes to ground for a 50-50 ball that Pepe challenged. If there was a booking needed, it was maximum yellow. Then there was no point in bringing in attacking players and going down 5-0 again.
Every team tries playing like this against Barcelona. Arsenal did the same when they were 2-1 up in the second leg and conceded the possession to Barcelona entirely but they could not score until a stupid pass by fabregas.
But the pattern is similar for Barcelona isn’t it ? Like yesterday, Arsenal sit back and tried to attack later, but the referee sent off Van persie stupidly before that thus nullifying any chance they had.
Coming to the plan A of Barcelona, that is playacting and bullying referee, last year when bayern went past united, 3 Bayern players argued with the referee for the foul on Ribery by Rafael (who was on yellow already) and everyone criticized them for that. SAF even called “typical Germans”. Here, every foul was argued with the referee by 8 or 9 barca players, and yet they are hailed as holier-than-thou-saints.
For those who say Barca does it because of Madrid rivalry, last year biscuits did the same to Motta and got him sent off. No Madrid was there then. Not to forget the number of penalties denied to Chelsea 2 years before.
Not to forget the penalty denied to Barcelona/Henry in the first leg of the Chelsea-Barcelona semi-final. Or the bizarre sending off of Abidal in the second leg. Oh sorry, I forgot that Barcelona doesn’t have any incidents of referees going against them!
Teams that don’t resort to thuggery don’t lose a man to a red card, it’s as easy as that. The 2009 CL Final saw Man U really take the game to Barcelona but had the misfortune of an against-the-run-of-play goal from Eto’o. Busi and Alves really need to tone down their theatrics though.(Pedro was never this bad before this game, maybe it’s tied to his drop in form)
If you watch the game again you’ll soon realize why Pedro resorted to diving. He had been screened 2-3 times off the ball by Arbeloa. Arbeloa did this same antifootball tactict numerous times in the copa del rey final with no punishment. By not drawing the officials’ attention to it, Madrid would have contintued to get away with cheating.
Pedro patiently waited for the officials to notice but on the 3rd time he took matters into his own hands, props to him for that.
Funny, here in Belgium, commentators on tv were discussing after the cdR-final last week how annoying it was that with every foul there were 7-8 MADRID players surrounding the referee. Pot->kettle->black.
What’s funny is that in the CDR when Busquet’s fouled Alonso in a similar way the exact same thing happened. RM players crowded the ref. No red was given there but it clearly should have been.
@ Marck
“But do Di Maria, Ronaldo or Van persie ever catch their face and scream like scumbags when their shoulders are touched in a tackle?”
Here you can watch some of Di María’s beautiful dives and at the end his Busquets impression (it’s not the only one documented, he does this as often as Busquets):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLc-Ked49og
And I have seen van Persie and Ronaldo do it too.
Barcelona were playing for 0-0. They simply didn’t commit people forwards. If they got lucky, they got lucky (Xavi’s long range shots, some one-on-ones from Villa), but not really a systematic team attack. The backs sat back and even if they got pulled out of position, Pique was set up to play as sweeper. It looked like they just wanted to draw the sting from Madrid. Second half, Madrid started pressing higher up the pitch and more aggressively. Pepe got a red being reckless and Barcelona got a free pass. Madrid screwed up – Mourinho can’t blame anyone else.
“Barcelona were playing for 0-0″
What as opposed to Real Madrid?(!)
A 0-0 at the Bernabeu is a good result especially with the second leg at the Nou Camp. Barca were way more cautious than usual but Real were far more negative.
Mourinho’s anti-football got what it deserved. And yes when up against Mourinho’s thuggery it is a perfectly reasonable tactic to get your players to exaggerate a bit. Only person to blame is Mourinho, that’s now seven games against Barca where his teams have had a player sent off.
A bit disappointed in this article, normally ZM analyses games so deeply and points out things I would never have noticed, but this review wasn’t as good of an admittedly poor game.
Mourinho had the wrong approach, flat out. To park the bus at Camp Nou is one thing, but to park it at Santiago Bernabeu coming off a win over Barca is a different story. The problem with striving for 0-0 (despite the inherent negativity) was 1) even with a park, Barca are still likely to score at least once, and 2) going 0-0 into Camp Nou is still advantage-Barca.
Some of Pep’s tactical decisions were excellent and he really doesn’t get enough praise. Late last year with a fully fit team with MVP (messi villa pedro) all in form, they were scoring 5 for fun. But without that level of play, Pep has actually done a good job tactically to win games like this.
Oh yes, ‘tactically’ hold your face to go down everytime someone tackles you.. bully the referee for every foul with 9 men.. yes yes, he got the tactics right. ZM didnt mention about this. He’s wrong.
Oh yes, ‘tactically’ beat your opponents into submission by stomping them (Marcelo), stepping in front of someone at the last minute whilst they are running at full speed (Arbeloa), body-checking Messi instead of going for the ball even though it’s in front of you (Ramos), shoving Busquets in the face in such a way that he didn’t even need to play act (Adebayor), tackling Messi from behind (Alonso).
Barcelona are no saints. We could all do without the whining, diving, and crowding of the referee. But Madrid aren’t saints either. Did they not dive, whine, and crowd the referee as well? Both teams were embarrassing in that regard. One side wanted to play football, the other side decided to play rugby.
They did dive and got fouls. But none stooped to such a level as Pedro, Biscuits and Alves. Noone said Madrid are saints. Its the Barcelona players and manager who are hailed as saints by the tika-taka-crybabies apologists.
My point is, you can’t call out Barca’s diving without also calling out Madrid’s overly physical play.
I completely agree. ZM has gotten in the habit of merely saying “Pep used the usual formation” with little elaboration on the fine tuning he engineered.
Pep used the same formation but with very specific and distint instruction. Alves stayed back to negate Di Maria. Barca as a whole patiently waited for Madrid to play football. Tactically, Pep outwitted the supposed special one by turning his own team and fans against him. Who’s the tactical genius now !? (psychologically and in terms of footy)
Mourinho opted for negative, defensive football when he should have attacked on his overgrown pitch. Now he has to go the the Nou Camp with short grass and 90,000+ fans against him. Good luck with that!
I thought Pep did an excellent job making adjustments from the Copa Final. Barca’s back four was so much deeper than usual to negate the speed of Madrid’s counterattack. The long balls that worked in the channels in the Copa Final were stuffed out.
Also did anyone notice how Busquets played further up the pitch than Xavi at times? It seemed that Xavi and Busquets switched roles at times.
They really didn’t even attempt an offside trap.
I can understand people being appalled at the behavior of the two teams, but how can they be surprised. Did they not watch the previous two games? The football was better, but the thuggery and antics were about the same. You guys were expecting a well-played and clean game? I wasn’t.
As for the referee’s decisions. Go read this. Excellent analysis of the referee. http://hkref.blogspot.com/
Thats the most fu*ked up report about the referee that only a barca bootlicker can write. Where was the Messi barging on Arbeola? Where were the barca crybabies’ playacting ? Where was Alves’ other challenges on Di Maria? Loonies posing as referee experts.
Really funny how Ozil was trying to strangle Alves from behind while Arbeloa was tactically body-checking Pedro for the 3rd time. Could have been 2 yellows.
Hi all, I just wanted to congratulate ZM and almost everyone in the discussion posts on their analysis and very interesting points. A very high quality of discussion, and really educational for me. Honestly this post by me is one of the few that doesn’t contribute to the discussion, but I feel you deserve it. Kudos.
150-something comments, how many concerned with tactics??
Mourinho’s non-reaction after being sent off is a good talking point. it doesn’t matter if he lost, putting all the rubbish press talk aside, Mourinho vs Guardiola on a tactical level is top notch football.
do you think Jose was already preparing for the next leg? i’m not buying the mission impossible attitude, its a 2 legged encounter! there needs to be a balance between going to Camp Nou in search of a result & not conceding more goals. this is something I think he could have done with Inter, but not Madrid, simply because of the personnel available. I’ll never forget Eto’o playing right back, something Kaka & Cristiano will never do, even if they are considered better players overall. Mourinho needs players that are willing to sacrifice, like Pepe & Di Maria. Alonso, Ozil & co can’t seem to do it, they’re too “Barca” for his system
By the way I’ve just finished a blog piece on the managerial battle in this match – http://lankyguyblog.blogspot.com/2011/04/guardiola-wins-battle-over-mourinho.html
Just read it, very nice article! Indeed seems like a clever move by Pep to do something what Mou would have never expected – not to bother to attack.
Thank you
lots of comments indicating that Jose messed up and should have gone for it.Really? There is no way in hell that any team is going to win a possession game plan with Barca. Forget it being the Bernabeau or Camp Nou, Barca are head and shoulders above other teams in this department. they hold the ball better and their off the ball is far superior to any team this side of the century so far. But that said Jose made some selection mistakes namely Ozil and Adebayor should have started in his place.
And i agree with the poster ahead of me. While Real has a massively talented squad, the cost of star power is hurting them in tactically sometimes.
Considering the Madrid had the ball rarely, I can forgive everybody for not analyzing Madrid’s tactics.
I have a few points to offer (hopefully it takes the debate away from diving, acting, and thuggery).
1) Madrid’s set pieces
ZM mentioned this, but Madrid fans must have been tearing their hair out every time Ronaldo sent one into the wall. Alonso wasn’t much better. I was simply baffled that Ronaldo kept taking the kicks, when he’s Madrid’s best header of the ball. If Ozil or Alonso were crossing toward Ronaldo, Madrid might have made more happen.
2) Ronaldo out of sync with his teammates
This was evident when Ronaldo tried to press Barca’s entire backline on his own. It was also evident when Madrid had the ball. Ronaldo spent a lot of time in his own half on the right, participating in the buildup and trying to draw Puyol high up the pitch. If Madrid then had an attacker make a run behind Puyol, It would have drawn Pique wide, placed a lot of pressure on makeshift center back Mascherano, and put Puyol in a footrace with Ronaldo for the return pass. That being said, Ozil rarely made that run behind Puyol. Had Higuain or Benzema been starting, they would have been more proactive in attacking that space.
3) Madrid’s left wing
Generally Madrid’s dominant side, the combination of Ozil, Ronaldo, and Marcelo is usually Madrid’s main method of attack. However, It was shut down yesterday, partly because of personnel and partly because of tactics. Dani Alves played as conservatively as I’ve ever seen him play. Marcelo was the same way. It was essentially a battle of Alves and Pedro vs. Marcelo and Di Maria. The result was a stalemate, because neither team tried to overman on that side (Typically both teams primary tactic).
4) Madrid’s first ball (with inspiration from Roberticus’ analysis of Brazil)
http://santapelota.blogspot.com/2010/06/operation-saida-or-exit-strategy-can.html
It was astounding how easily Madrid surrendered possession, even though Barca’s pressing was subdued (at least by their standards). The midfield three of Pepe/DIarra/Alonso was just not equipped to play the ball simply and quickly. As a result, Madrid couldn’t counter through rapid interchange and mass movement (their usual tactic) and had to resort to the long ball. Unfortunately for them, Pique had a commanding game at center back, and the long balls rarely troubled Barcelona.
5) Ozil
As noted by ZM, Ozil completed 2 passes before being taken off, awful for a player of his caliber. While he is one of the finest number 10’s in the world, he has been baffled by the Xavi/Busquets axis on 5 out of 6 consecutive occasions (the exception being the 1-1 in the league, when he inspired the comeback). I’d really like to see a full length analysis of this, but I do have a few theories. He clearly struggles to adapt to the high pressing that Barca/Spain’s midfield inflicts. He also is used to his teams dominating possession, which doesn’t happen here. He loses his major asset, his ability to drift forward or wide to find space, because he is forced to remain in the middle and battle for control of the game. Seeing Ozil struggle like this really advertises Barca’s defensive excellence. His replacement, Adebayor, offered more physicality (earned a yellow for a foul that could have been a straight red), but didn’t really contribute much.
I dont think this has got anything to do with barca’s defensive excellence. Ozil is a player who needs the ball to do something. Thats why I think he was wasted yesterday with the tactics in the first half. He was needed more in the second half and along with a true forward, he would have created chances as in the previous two matches.
Any AM will be seen as struggling when the opposition is Barca as they dont get the ball at all. He is not great defensively and so not used much to mark players as Snejder did last year. That he completed only 2 passes tells more about the tactics than the player. He simply didnt get the ball to do anything. Adebayor should have started yesterday at the start and ozil should have come on as a substitute in the second half when they needed him. There were many times in the second half when Madrid had more possession but could not do much due to lack of creativity, which Ozil is capable of.
1) Totally agreed.
2) I am going to mark the day that Mourinho chooses to take off Ronaldo and bring on somebody else other than for injury.
3) Agreed.
4) Seems that Khedira had a bit more of passing compared to Diarra?
5) Ozil would have needed at least somebody like Benzema to link up to.
If I was RM’s manager for the return leg: 4-1-4-1: Backline standard, Alonso as holder, then CR7, Kaka, Ozil, Dimaria; Benz upfront.
You’re insane…amd I like it.
Thanks
But seriously – what can Madrid lose now? They are already more than half out. They can only win reputation by having an all-out approach.
Just imagine they win 3-2. They’d be out but they would look like heros.
Mourinho would absolutely hate a 2-3 win because everybody would then criticize him for not going for it in the first leg. The more I think about it the I think he used the wrong tactics…
Definitely. He understood too late what was happening (that Barcelona were not going to give him chances for counter attacks), and when his ‘plan’ got busted completely by Pepe’s dismissal (justified or not), he refused to try to save the situation. (Like an angry child) He chose to lose completely in order to put himself as the victim of a conspiracy. If Madrid do not want to lose their international reputation completely they should sack that egomaniac of Mou ASAP.
I hate to do this on ZM website but the truth is that everywhere he goes, Mou spreads poison. They can’t stand him in England or Italy. Also, if you consider the Liverpool-chelsea encounters as an example, these matches were full of spite and boring to watch. When Mou left chelsea, these matches became much more watchable and the attitude of the players towards each other was much more prespectful and sportsmanlike.
Confession: I think he is a pretentious, self-important if successful pratt
Totally agree. And with the crazy Spanish press his “mind games” are multiplied by a billion in intensity. Things are almost unliveable in Spain right now.
Yesterday Madrid fans tried to attack referee Stark at a restaurant in Madrid. Let’s not forget Anders Frisk retired as (top) referee after death threats by Chelsea fans when Mourinho (falsely) accused him after a CL game to have talked with Frank Rijkaard in the referee’s room.
except that UEFA later admitted that they met. Go and preach your stories somewhere else morons..
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/4420769.stm
“Chelsea were fined and their coach Jose Mourinho fined and banned for two matches because Chelsea claimed that the Barcelona coach went into the referee’s room and tried to influence his handling of the game.
“This did not happen and this is what Chelsea were punished for.”
Rijkaard tried to talk to Frisk.
Frisk was having none of it. “Frisk told him it was not the place or moment to speak about the match.”
Go check your facts.
clobbered..Marck,next time think about what u type
What a nice and interesting match Porto-Villareal is right now, compared to that Mikado of yesterday…
ZM– what should be inferred from Ronaldo’s despairing reaction (throwing his hands in the air) when he received no support from teammates in applying pressure to Barcelona?
Was he the only one following his coach’s orders to apply pressure during opposition possession?
Or (more likely), was he simply ignoring his coach’s orders to allow Barcelona possession in their own half and protesting this tactic?
I’d go for the latter, agree with you there.
What a phenomenon! The man that has done less (rather none) pressing and defending since he arrived to the club, feels entitled to demonstratively criticize his teammates when he, for once, sacrifices himself chasing around for a couple of minutes. Eto’o, anyone?
Time is ripe for Madrid to do an “Inter/Ibra” exchanging Cristiano for 2-3 players that help that highly talented troup to coalesce into a fully integrated team playing top quality football, with or w/o Mourinho.
Don’t know if that was a topic here. But, Mourinho said he wanted to bring in a playmaker in the second half etc. He indicated that he wanted to play more attacking in the last minutes of the game.
But from what I’ve heard Real would have been happy with a 0-0 or a 1-0 victory.
Now my question. When Real get the red card and is happy with the 0-0, why do they play 4-4-1?
Morinho should know that two central midfielders are not enough against Barca. Also, he should know that a flat four in midfield is a problem. you need to play very deep and compact or you need a player between the lines that sometimes drops into a back five.
So why did he play 4-4-1 and not 4-1-4-0 and defended half an hour to achieve a 0-0 or a 0-1 defeat?
I don’t think many people would blame him for playing defensive with ten men, but he played defensive with eleven and with ten the did not adjust the shape at his most important tactical point (I would say he played a risky formation).
Real only “played” good (or resisted) in the last games, because of the midfield 1-2 in the center. What did Mourinho do when Real lost one of that players? He did nothing. He did not fix the problem. That was strange. If your goal is not to concede, then you have to readjust the team in the moment Pepe leaves the pitch.
For me that was the failure of the game. Real may lose with a 4-1-4-0 formation, but at least he would have tried something.
Good point. It is quite interesting that he didn’t make a switch at that point. He had the looks of Garay or Granero that could have come in to sure up midfield. It’s also interesting that he only made one substitution in all. It was a bit like the 5-0 to me where he clearly gave up the ghost and just didn’t bother with the changes. A 0-0 with 10 men would have been considered another tactical success for Mourinho. Interesting.
After the sending off of Pepe, Mou didn’t change tactics to prove a point. Now he is the victim of another “unjust” sending off and a conspiracy against him. He probably could have kept the score to 0-0 or 0-1 but throwing a fit and preparing a speech for the media was more important at the time.
Yes, maybe he was thinking about the press conferece and the ‘conspiracy’.
But what is more important: the result or the press conference?
If he tries everything, he is allowed to complain.
Strange priorities has this man. Maybe he is trapped in his own mind games.
And Real still has to play 90 minutes.
If you repeat your own lies often enough, you start believing them yourself. (don’t take this literally.)
Mourinho was never an easy character, but the last year was too much.
Inters games against Barca, the attacking approach in the first game and the defending in the second, is nothing I would complain about. even if people often forget that Inter won the tie with attacking football and secured it with defending. At Real it became a big show, but why?
I understand Ronaldos frustration, and I understand the critics at the club. That is no longer Real Madrid, it becomes the ugly Mourinho show. I don’t think that they need that.
Is Mourinhos fire burnt out after ten years of work as head coach? Is this his real character? People said in private life he is a different person, really? If his mind games are a strategy, then it’s not very successful at the moment.
How did you guys come to that conclusion?
Mourinho was writing notes and passed them to his assistant.
So obviously, he wasn’t thinking about the press conference but about how to get something out of the game, even if it didn’t work.
I’m sure he was but I think a switch was needed when Pepe went off so I’m not sure why he just left things the way they were. I think they probably would have lost the match anyway but the formation Real finished with ensured they lost the tie.
Well, we don’t know what he wrote. Maybe he wrote “Do not field Granero, do not make any sub at all!” I’d go with Alf here.
Either Mou was so shocked and enraged that he could not think clearly anymore and ‘forgot’ about the changes. Or he did it on purpose in order to become some sort of martyr and proving a point that Barca only wins when they play against 10.
And that is my question. Mourinho wrote notes, but what did change on the pitch?
And if I believe him saying he wanted to play for a goalless draw or a 1-0 victory, why did he chose a very ‘open’ tactic at the end of the game? He was not afraid to play defensive in the first half, why in the second when he really had a reason to park the bus?
It is hard to believe that a man like Mourinho gets his tactics wrong in this case. Like he said: it is not unusual for Real to lose a man against Barca, so he was prepared.
If he thinks Real has no chance because of UEFA or something like that, Real should fire him and get a manager who believes that he can win the game.
Oh no… This reads like yesterday’s match, no ?
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The youtube recording showing the Pepe tackle is not valid
there are many frames lacking due to either slow camera or deliberate editing.
There is no way Alves could change his movement in the air if there was no contact.
Correct. Was definitely not a dive unless Alves is some kind of cyborg. He did embellish the injury afterwards but maybe Pepe should just top trying to break legs.
I wouldn’t rule out the possibility that Dani Alves is a cyborg.
“For much of the contest, the objective of both sides seemed to be to get opposition players sent off, rather than actually try to score a goal.”
Actually, I think it was only Barca who had this objective. I can remember several instances of Barca players pretending to be struck on the head and surrounding the referee in protest. Real Madrid, I think, were more concerned in not picking up yellows. They were far less physical than in the previous two games. Barca had more chances in the first half of this game than in the 210 minutes of the previous games. They did, however, pass no opportunity to step on their opponent or give a sly kick. The Real Madrid players were beaten are their own game to a large extent – they set out to annoy, stifle and aggrevate the Barca players but Ronaldo screaming at his teammates was a perfect example that Barca had the upper hand.
The tactics of Real Madrid were poor – to play counter-attack at home is poor by anyone’s standards but for a club that is supposed to pride itself on playing attractive football, it was so much worse. It was an admission of inferiority. That said, Barca’s tactics were utterly disgraceful. It is no exaggeration to say that they played for yellow and red cards. Neither team can come out of this game with any credit and I can honestly say I hope the winner losses the final in humiliating fashion.
I agree with one thing: Madrid and Mourinho’s tactics were an admission of inferiority.
Mou doesn’t have the faith that his squad (in any formation or line up) can play Barcelona straight up. The exciting thing: the very thing he was avoiding, is now forced upon him. He must come out attacking or Madrid’s CL exit is inevitable.
I have the solution to beat Barcalona, which flies in the face of this website. Man marking and hit them on the counter!
It’s actually a bit of a no win situation for Mourinho now. It’s pretty much an impossibility that he’ll be able to beat Barca by 2 goals in the Camp Nou so if he has 2 choices:
1) Go and defend in their own half like they did in Madrid and be humiliated
2) Go and attack Barcelona and either: Loose badly or sneak a win
If they defend and go out he’ll be ridiculed as a coward
If he attacks and sneaks a win he’ll be ridiculed for his tactics in the first leg
If he attacks and looses badly then well, that’s just embarrassing
Actually, I think Mourinho might happily take being badly beaten in the second leg. Then he can turn around and use his other excuse:
“See, look at the players I’ve had to deal with – useless – what can I do, eh?”
Pepe should have seen yellow. I cannot stand Barcelona when they mob the ref. Per FIFA rules that isn’t supposed to fly. No one but the captain is allowed to address the ref.
Nice analysis from ZM and posters as usual.
Just one thing I wanted to mention about Messi. Besides his goals, the other thing that set him apart in this match was his conduct.
In stature, compared to his peers, he looks like a child, but he acts like an adult. When Dani Alves was fouled and his teammates surrounded the referee he strolled towards the mayhem but just had a look at Alves and walked away.
Messi was the only player on the pitch who tried to stay on his feet if he could; other players would have taken one of the opportunities to go down on the way to his second goal.
He also tried to get up after being fouled on the edge of the box by Diarra. For his trouble, he was pushed into the ground by Ramos and the foul (handball!?!) went against him.
I wish we had more like him.
Yeah I mentioned this on another forum how he not only proved himself as a player but as a man as well. No petty arguing or play acting/diving.
I agree, Messi is hardly ever involved in accosting a referee, only when he is the one on the receiving end, but I don’t think it was immaturity or childishness that had the Barca players surround the referee. It seemed a deliberate ploy. They were instructed to try and get the Real Madrid players booked so they would miss the return leg. You can’t criticize Alves, Busquets or Pedro for their play acting pretending to be hit in the face when they were instructed to do this by their coaching staff. Nor can you criticize Xavi, Puyol and Villa in appealing to the referee to book or send off players for fouls that haven’t happened. So to praise Messi for not taking part in it when he was fully aware that his team were actively seeking to have players booked or sent off unjustly, to essentially try to win the tie by cheating, is like praising someone who took part in an armed robbery for not firing a single shot. He was well aware of the tactics being employed and they are all as guilty as each other on that score.
Based on these assumption, you actually can praise him. If the coaching staff of Barca indeed have/had given such instructions, I find it pretty brave if he does not follow the orders. What should he do instead? Go to his own team mates on the pitch and tell them to stop feigning? Or to go to the referee and tell him “Well man, forget what Xavi and Puyol just told you, Alves is just cheating and pretending as usual…”?
This game was just a major disappointment for me in a whole. Only 2 nice individual plays (Afelay and Messi) were worth to be called football, all the rest such as tactics and on and off the pitch behaviour were awful. Both teams should be punished.
If the second tie will be the same, I hope the team that advances to the final gets humiliated by Manchester United.
Agree 100%!! Im praying for a United win.
Teams like Barcelona enjoy possession and once they’ve settled into the game, it’s hard if not impossible to interrupt this momentum. However, it is not out of reach to stop them. Sitting back and letting the opposition play was certainly a tactical flaw if not mistake in Real’s game which cost them the game and the tie.
That has been RM’s approach in this Clasico series. First game they tied, second game they won, and third they loose. I think the main factor was that there was no pressure whatsoever, certainly they can sit back but no pressure is a bad tactic.
What i watched was two teams acting like a bunch of small school girls but its Spanish football what do you expect!
One thing that did amaze me about this game was that people still talk about Mouriho’s brilliant tactics. 3 defensive midfield players, letting the opposition have the ball in their own half and then hitting them on the counter seems exactly how Man City approach all their big games and no-one’s raving about Mancini.
As a team RM is not well equipped for big game yet but Mr Mou have been done excellent job so far. He draw up at least half baked game plan against Barca; I can see Mr Pep a bit nerverous before this match. Most of people predict that Barca sweep all 4 classico games with easy.
Pepe done very good job but RM need better DM to replace Pepe’s job and still need better defenders too. Ronaldo is not very effective in big game because He can make chance for shooting in normal match however his finishing is not accurate enough for finisher in tight match.
Mr Mou show couple of facts of Barca side; Messi do not like physical challenge and can be stifle out; Barca is vulnerable against quick wing counter attack and not very good against aerial treat; Barca players are out of steam around 70min mark etc.
Mr Mou will bring in couple of players who can give some balance in Rm side; no doubt about that. I think real battle will begin in next season and I am looking forward it.
There is no justification for Madrid play an attacking game- I do not see it written in FIFA’s rulebook, neither in any football document. Madrid and Mourinho are completely justified to play the way they see fit- because they are legally entitled to play the game they want to play. Barcelona players diving- especially Busquets (he is really a disgrace), Alves, Puyol, Mascherano diving was and is illegal. This is no ‘beautiful’ game and no amount of ‘beautiful, incisive, slick, magical’ play can make up for the cheating. Mourinho, in his press conference went too far, however this should force UEFA to take a closer look into why more and more teams are complaining against Barcelona (Chelsea, Inter, Madrid).
someone called him that up there I read it freaking hilarious..
I love ‘Biscuits’ by the way
brilliant article. how do Kaka , benzema & higuain feel sitting thru’ that unused. barca’s bench was very weak, and with masch in defence, and puyol l/back, what an opportunity.
I watch most FC Barcelona games, and the players rarely dive. This is because most games are relatively clean. The only time I see Barça “sell” fouls to this degree is when they are up against opponents like Real Madrid where “tactical” fouling is clearly an explicit and major plank of their defensive strategy: hack Barça and prevent them from creating any flow in the final third. Though I don’t like to see “tactical” diving, it is the obvious appropriate response to excessive “tactical” fouling. If you choose to play ugly, we’ll play ugly right back at you.
Blame Real Madrid for setting the standard of play. Credit Barça for tactically beating them at that game. Not fun to watch, but flow-killing football never is. As Xavi said regarding Spain in the World Cup: “Of course we were boring – the opposition made it that way.”
Well said.
Pepe’s red card was clearly the moment of the match. It was clear to me that Barcelona had the match (and the semi-final) won there.
Having Pepe being sent off was like sending 2/3 plyers off at the same time. We saw the two wonderful goal L.Messi scored and, even more amazing than those goals, is a question I make “How the f*** did Pepe manage to stop that during 60 minutes??!?”. Jeez… How did he manage to spot Messi during the last 3 clássicos??
Before the red card, Messi was mostly useless. Rarely touched the ball and when he did touch it only had like 2/3 seconds until Pepe press him up and forced him to pass the ball or he would lose possession (which actualy happened a couple of times).
Pepe’s sent off was surgical and unfair http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ou_JW72XWJQ&feature=player_embedded
Expelling Pepe was the only way Barça had to score a goal and I’m 200% sure that if Pepe was still on the pitch Messi would never score those 2 goals, so I understand Mourinho’s and Ronaldo’s frustration.
For me it was a fair sending off: it was a cynical challenge. You NEVER challenge for a 50-50 ball with your studs showing while stretching your leg. We here in Belgium aswell as the English fans know what the consequences can be. However, after this clip and with the condition that nobody messed with it, you can punish Alves as well for acting.
When Pepe went in studs up with his leg straight toward Alves’ knee, he put the referee in a position where he had to make a decision. When you do that, you cede control over whether you are playing with 11 or 10.
There was no point to the challenge, so far from Real’s own goal. However, when your strategy is based on physical aggression, it’s not easy to turn it on and off.
Well as long as you’re sure that’s ok…
I think it is a well established fact at this stage that you can’t out perform this Barcelona team in an attacking sense. They hold possession exceptionally well and leave the opposition with 2 choices:
1) Hold a highline at the back compressing the space allowing the team the chance to close down Barcelona effectively higher up the pitch. The risk here is Pedro and Villa making darting runs complimented by the ability of Xavi, Messi and Iniesta to pick out their runs even under immense pressure.
2) The second option is to defend deep allowing no space behind and only pressuring in your own half. The goal here is to stop Barcelona creating chances and looking for quick breaks. This is a more conservative option as any balls won back will be in your own half where everything is already congested. Barcelona also press really well making it difficult to be productive when possession is won back.
Mourinho in the first classico went with option 1 and got spanked. Through-out this series he’s gone with option 2 which up until Wednesday had been doing the trick. The problem with option 2 though is that it assumes Barcelona play their usual gung-ho style. On Wednesday though Barcelona played a different style as many people eluded to already and were actually quite content to allow Madrid sit back while they controlled possession in their own half.
This negated any frustration that the Barcelona players normally feel when they’re being thwarted by inferior opposition and in the end it was the Madrid players who became frustrated. If you add frustration to the tactical fouling and aggression Madrid always show against Barcelona then you’re going to see red cards.
Pepe may have been unlucky to be the one that finally took the hit but it was coming. Put it this way. Mourinho complains about always having to play against Barcelona with 10 men. Which of these do you honestly think is a more likely reason for these sendings off?
A) There is a conspiracy in both Spain and in Europe to help Barcelona beat which ever team Mourinho is managing…
B) Mourinho sending his teams out to defend against Barcelona, put in cynical tackles, disrupt their play by fair or foul means added to the inevitable frustration felt by a team of top top top professional footballers when they have less then 30% possession in a game…
Well said, especially about the frustration of Real Madrid players–Ronaldo certainly didn’t go there to play this style of football.
Mourinho regularly beats Barcelona, and regularly finishes with 10. Neither is a coincidence.
True on the fact that Mourinho does get results against Barcelona. I think this is based on Mourinho’s general inclination towards the more defensive tactical side of the game.
What Mourinho is gifted at is creating a sense of injustice and a siege mentality amoungst his teams. If he can convince them the world is against them and that he has the system for them to win and prove all the doubters wrong then they will follow them. It’s all about control really. Mourinho is good at the theatre and gets the players to believe his way is the only way. He can then use them like chess pieces.
Sadly quite often this leads to a number of his more talented players becoming mere work-horses. I remember when Duff went to Chelsea for example. Mourinho strangled the flair right out of him. I think this is the reason he moves around so much. There’s only so long you convince superstars that defense is the only way to go in the big games.
You could see the likes of Ronaldo freaking out. He wants to prove he’s the best player in the world and he looks behind him during that first half and he realises he’s expected to just pull it out of the air on his own. Not a happy camper.
Barcelona is the perfect rival for Mourinho. They tick all the boxes, an attacking lightweight team that never change their system. He thought he could just sit back and rely on fast breaks and free-kicks. But then Guardiola did something unexpected and the entire Madrid gameplan was called into question.
It’ll be very interesting how Madrid set their stall out next week.
The problem about Pepe’s sent off wasn’t about R.Madrid playing with 10 men.
It was about R.Madrid playing without Pepe who had been the absolute key player in the past 3 clássicos. Mourinho had no problem in playing with 10 men, he only had a problem about playing without Pepe which was essential to his gameplan.
If we see the images, Pepe never actually touches Alves and all he does is acting. Therefore, Pepe should punished with a yellow card for dangerous play.
NOTE: I don’t think there’s a conspiracy to help Barcelona beat Mourinho but I think he has a point: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ou_JW72XWJQ&feature=player_embedded
Now watch the images again and, using your imagination, replace Pepe for Messi and D.Alves for Ronaldo.
Honestly, do you really think that the referee would give Messi a red card???? Well I don’t think so. In my opinion, he wouldn’t give neither a red, nor a yellow card, he wouldn’t call a foul and he would caution C.Ronaldo with a yellow card for simulation.
Excellent write, I completely agree with it. It’s hilarious how a lot of people think there’s a “conspiracy” among referees or something to help Barcelona. Impressive really. They completely ignore the fact that one team chose to play in a way which would tend to rely a lot on tackles (and fouls). I also heard Mourinho trained a lot with 10 men, don’t you think that means something?
Surpisingly enough after so many comments, I haven’t noticed (and my apologies if has happened and I missed it but iy was no blatantly obvious) anyone mentioning that Barcelona did the homework after they draw to 10 men in the league match. This is really the key point for the tie. 11 vs 10 Barca took the lead and didn’t cope with Madrid positive approach and surrended to draw. This time Barcelona in the same situation managed to attack and get 2 goals, this is the reason why the tie 0-2. It can be down to Pep, to the players, to Mourinho or to all of them, but the fact is that had Madrid performed the same way than 2 weeks ago, they could have had the lead in the tie.
My second point is that playing a dry high pitch, thuggery or over acting may be tactics, acceptable or not depending your culture and background but agreeing to UEFA to watering the pitch 1 hour ago and failing to do so is cheating and probably UEFA will fine Madrid.
The final point is has anyone understood Mourinho’s post match press conference as the first press conference of 2011-2012 Champions League? I don’t know, just a thought.
Mourinho versus Guardiola
External versus Internal locus of control
Guardiola always focuses on what he and his players do(internal locus), not the other teams or refs (external).
Pepe’s sending off was out of Mou’s external control, there was absolutely nothing he could do to change it. What he could control was his ability to cope with being down a man. He could have subbed off Ronaldo and Ade and put on Granero and Garay to salvage a 0-0 draw. Instead, he did nothing but prepare his talk that only put blame on everything out of his control (Uefa, refs, Barca, Pep, etc.).
Who’s the real master?
Mourinho wins due to being the biggest asshole. Refs actually favored Madrid in this tie due to the sending off (most refs seem to agree with the decision as do I). But because of Mourinho’s complaining, the ref second guessed himself giving tons of leeway to RM during the last 30 minutes. This match could have ended 3-0. I have a feeling you’re going to see a very soft decision in RM’s favor in the 2nd leg as well.
Mourinho’s plan:
1. Instruct his players to commit as many physical fouls off the ball and go for ankles every opportunity during the previous 2 matches as well as this one. Possibly he will injure a key player and almost certainly intimidate them.
2. When player is finally sent off he will call foul with such a barrage of half-truths and lies that make it impossible for the casual fan to sort out the facts. The refs are forced to favor him for the rest of the match and probably future ones. Mourinho knows that playing with 10 men against 11 is not a huge factor when a team is playing very defensive. He admitted this himself. The benefits of losing 1 man for 30 minutes during one of the three matches so far is worth it in publicity terms. It turned out that Barca scored 2 during that time but it was actually very unlikely.
The man is a cheap propagandist. He’d do great working for Fox News. Don’t be deceived by thinking it takes genius. It just takes being willing to get dirty.
Puyol isn’t slow, though!