Inter 2-5 Schalke: awful defending produces an incredible scoreline

The starting line-ups
Schalke shocked Inter to put themselves on the verge of a European Cup semi-final place.
Leonardo switched to a 4-3-1-2 system after Inter’s poor display against Milan with a 4-2-3-1. Dejan Stankovic replaced Goran Pandev, whilst Diego Milito played alongside Samuel Eto’o upfront.
Ralf Rangnick played a 4-4-1-1ish system. Kyriakos Papadopoulos was used as the sole holder in midfield, with Jurado given license to go forward. Raul played just off Edu upfront.
The game got off to a fantastic start with an amazing volley from the halfway line from Dejan Stankovic – Inter were 1-0 up after just 40 seconds.
Schalke dominate
The goal put Inter ahead, but Schalke were unquestionably the dominant side for most of the first half. Inter’s narrow system couldn’t contain Schalke’s full-backs, particularly down the home side’s left. Atsuto Uchida broke forward on various occasions completely untracked, and other times worked 2 v 1 situations with Jefferson Farfan down the flank.
Inter seemed content to let Uchida – and other Schalke players – have time on the ball in wide positions, as the Inter midfield three was very slow to shuffle across to close down. This was big mistake, however, because Cristian Chivu and Andrea Ranocchia both had terrible games at the back, and the constant stream of crosses was always going to cause them problems. In the end, Schalke got their equaliser from a corner.
Midfield battle
Inter may have had more bodies in the centre of the pitch, but they didn’t work well as a unit and were often played around by Schalke. Thiago Motta stayed as the deepest midfielder and had the responsibility of looking after Jurado, but the outside midfielders, Stankovic and Esteban Cambiasso, were unsure of what they were doing both with and without the ball (as previously discussed). With the ball, there was confusion about whether they were supposed to stay in central positions and allow the full-backs to overlap, or pull wide and stretch the play. With those two offering little, Inter’s build-up play was entirely predictable – almost all of it when through Wesley Sneijder.

Inter's attacking play all went through the centre-left channel, through Sneijder
This was a lot to ask of Sneijder, because he was near-man-marked by Papadopoulos for much of the opening period. Sneijder’s response was to drop deeper, lose his marker and pick the ball up near the halfway line, before sending balls over the top. A couple of his passes were excellent, and one created Milito’s goal to put Inter 2-1 up, after Cambiasso was free at the far post.
The goal that made it 2-2 was bizarre, considering the formations and the general pattern of play. Inter had packed the centre of the midfield, whilst Schalke were working the ball from side to side and trying to play down the flanks. Therefore, it was a surprise that Schalke’s goal came from a direct break down the middle. They took advantage of Motta trying to storm forward – the Brazilian was trying to exploit space created by Sneijder dragging Papadopoulos away, but as the deepest midfield and his side 2-1 up, he probably should have stayed in position He miscontrolled the ball, though, and Schalke broke straight down the middle to equalise again.
Other developments
Amongst all the tactical features that resulted in goals, there was other points of note. Raul worked extremely hard defensively, dropping off the front and pressuring one of Inter’s midfielders, often Motta, to give Schalke more bodies in that zone. He also provided a different passing option, whereas Inter’s strikers both stayed high up the pitch.
Schalke defended very well, keeping a good defensive line and catching Inter offside six times in the first period. Their full-backs were the ‘free’ players, and did well at tucking inside and creating a spare man at the back when Inter had the ball in wide positions – Uchida covered his centre-backs well, in particular.
Second half
In the second half, Schalke managed to extend their lead to 2-4 with two goals in a crazy ten minute spell. The goals simply owed a lot to classic features of modern football – movement, pace and quick passing. The third, through Raul, came after some wonderful passing that cut Inter open through the centre, whilst the fourth came from a break down the right – exploiting the space in behind Chivu, just as Milan did so successfully at the weekend – before Ranocchia summed up Inter’s defending by turning the ball into his own goal.

Schalke were constantly able to switch the ball to Uchida in space
Chivu had a disastrous evening, losing tackles and eventually being dismissed for a second bookable offence. It was his second red card in four days, and frankly Inter might be better off with him suspended. Leonardo had to bring on Ivan Cordoba as another centre-back, and so took of Houssine Kharja, who himself had replaced Stankovic early on. This was a relatively minor feature of the game and Inter were hardly likely to turn it around, but it was a strange decision to replace Kharja, who had fresher legs, when Inter looked exhausted as a whole.
Some more ludicrous defending at the back meant Edu added a fifth – but Schalke weren’t playing much better at the back, leaving spaces which Eto’o enjoyed running through – but poor finishing from he and Milito let Inter down.
Rangnick used his substitutions simply to replace tired legs, and it finished 2-5.
Conclusion
A ludicrous game that asks serious questions of Leonardo. Inter were outwitted tactically, made an incredible number of individual mistakes, and looked exhausted at an early stage. Their attacking play was too predictable and revolved almost completely around Sneijder.
Rangnick should be praised for his approach, however. He presumably knew how much Inter depended on Sneijder and therefore used Papadopoulos and told him to stick tightly to the Dutchman. He also exploited Inter’s defensive weakness on the flanks, instructing his players to frequently switch the ball from flank to flank. By the second half, Schalke didn’t need a grand plan – they just ran into the huge spaces in the Inter defence and helped themselves to goals.
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Inter 2-5 Schalke: awful defending produces an incredible scoreline


Why did leonardo play chivu in the first eleven? b
The biggest thing I noticed, which was mentioned a few times in past analyses, was Inter’s lack of compactness. I described Inter’s usual formation elsewhere as a 3-0-5-2, there were no defensive midfielders. Motta was far closer to his forwards than his defenders for most of the game.
That was the main contributor to Ranocchia and Chivu getting dragged all over the place. With Ranocchia’s strength being in picking up loose balls rather than chasing the ball, it’s very natural that he had a poor game.
Spot on. My last two blogposts make exactly that point. Inter are loose and baggy. urgh
I am curious: how is it that (high-level?) defenders like Chivu, Zanetti, Maicon, Ranocchia (and Motta) is playing such a terrible fixture?
I’m thinking mostly of bad marking at 1-1), Chivus double booking, Raul’s goal, and the last goal of the day.
I acknowledge injuries to Samuel and suspension to Lucio, but this doesn’t even seem to be the problem as the line-up have defended ok in the past.
Even when all was tactically horribly, why did they had to defend this poorly on top of that?
My theory (just above yours) is that the tactics caused the poor defending. Because of the lack of midfield cover, Ranocchia and Chivu were forced to step out of position to challenge for the ball. Chivu is normally good at that, so I can’t explain his bad game. Ranocchia, however, is not at all good at that. His ability as a defender comes from his positional sense, his reading of the game, and his last ditch tackles. Not one of those comes into play when you’re leaving your position to challenge for the ball.
The last two games of Inter with Chivu as a centre defender were disastrous. Playing Cordoba as a central defender, Chivu on leftback and Zanetti on midfield would be a much better option.
Ever since Leonardo took over Inter can’t defend any more. Benitez was sacked because he not entertaining enough. Instead they got Leonardo now and seem to have forgotten how to defend. Credit to Rangnick though. He deserved his nickname Professor and this game has shown why.
Since when does Italian fans care about entertaining football. They’re purists – they jsut want to win. Rafa didn’t win, so he got axed. Entertainment had nothing at all to do with it.
Udinese are supposed to be good to watch.
While not Italian, myself (my nickname probably gives that away), I love seeing a good defensive display.
And yes Udinese are spectacularly entertaining in the traditional sense, but in Italy that is only viewed as a bonus. Win first, entertainemnt second seems to be the pattern.
Well, if entertainemnt means you have to attack and give a sh…about defense I don’t like it at all.
Besides, I love to see a good defense.
Benitez was fired for not delivering results and losing the locker-room.
damn leonardo really is quite crappy as a coach. i’m sure i can do an even better job lol…
Being a good coach is a function of good coaching (training), leading (inc. psychology), tactics, physical preparation and more. Just because you can make a few tactical observations, that does not mean you would be a better coach.
While loosing Lucio and Samuel to inury is a huge blow to any defense, Alex Ferguson has shown it can be managed. You just have to be willing to play a lot of midfielders and no strikers.
I don’t care if you are an “attacking manager”, you have to scale back the offense. Play a 4-5-1, with Eto’o alone on top and a combination of Zanetti-Kharja-Sneijder-Cambiasso-Motta-Stankovic behind him. Crowd the back half of the field, and protect the shaky defense. There’s little doubt in my mind that that’s what Ferguson and Mourinho would do in Leo’s place.
I absolutely loathe managers, that have only one gear. Managers that try to force a team into a certain system or philosophy; if the material is not there, you have to be able to throw away your ideals and win in a different way.
He has only one gear: LOSING
That’s harsh. This is the guy who helped Inter from 20+ points behind to within touching distance of first place in Serie A.
Did he really mastermind the results though? What he had were those first team veterans who were previously unavailable due to injuries, making a significant difference. At least for a period of time.
Inter was doing well after the rest they had after the winter break, but now they are looking completely broken again. How many matches have the these same players played in since January? Where is the rotation? Many of these players are over 30 and yet quite a number of them were playing their third strenuous game in a week; an international friendly, the Milan friendly, and now this. No wonder they were exhausted so early in the game.
He certainly had an effect. First, he picked a system that suited the team (unlike Benitez, who tried to force a 4-2-3-1), he managed to make use of Inter’s best players, and he (for a while) solved an issue that even Mourinho couldn’t figure out-how to make the most of both Eto’o and Milito.
And really, when would the rotation happen? At this point, all the games could make or break Inter’s season, it would be a risk to play anything other than the best 11 (though they do clearly need a rest).
I just wanted to make a Charlie Sheen joke. It’s true that he has done a lot of good since arriving. In the Champions League and big league games he has underwhelmed (save the come back in Munich). It’s true the side has performed well in some big games under him (Napoli, Roma..) but the defeats to Udinese, Juventus and Milan suggest this is not a team cohesive enough for the big games. Sometimes Inter have looked terrible (last two games).
And I disagree that he’s got the best out of Milito and Eto’o. Milito hasn’t been best in any way this season, allbeit hampered by injuries that Mou never had to deal with.
Every team has bad spells. The problem with this Inter team is that Leonardo’s carefree attacking system means a bad spell=heavy loss.
About Eto’o and Milito, Mourinho got the best out of Milito (and he has yet to perform to that level this season, regardless of what I said/am about to say), and he used Eto’o to the benefit of the team. However, in Leonardo’s first few games (most notably against Bologna, there were a few others as well), he managed to do several things:
-Eto’o was on fire in terms of attacking prowess
-Eto’o was still benefiting the team defensively
-Milito’s presence made Eto’o even better
-Milito was also scoring.
Mourinho sacrificed Eto’o’s attacking ability in favour of Milito’s attacking ability. Leonardo had them work together to enhance Eto’o’s attacking ability.
Granted, my evidence is only against smaller teams, and the system has changed since then.
Uchida was excellent, he is progressing into a very good right back and his crossing in particular stands out for me.
Inter’s problems begun when their most complete overall midfielder, Eto’o, was put back as a striker.
Eto’o was the (wide) box-to-box link (not quite always, but in many occasions) in Mourinho’s Inter, and not simply a defensive winger as was described.
So Motta/Zanetti and Cambiasso/Zanetti sticked to positions, Sneijder was used as a
semi box-to-box SS-AM-CM, while the box-to-box players Eto’o, Maicon and Zanetti/Chivu pushed forward and backward.
If there’s no Eto’o in the midfield, everything predictably goes thru Sneijder and that’s what they couldn’t fix.
Agreed, Mourinho did a good job of fitting Eto’O and Milito into the same formation. Eto’O scores more goals this season, but as a team Inter is doing worse.
It is worth noting that Schalke was far from playing with their fir XI either. With Metzelder and Kluge missing, they were supposed to lack defensive quality. Just because some fuss about Samuel and Lucio not playing.
They defended poorly and were lucky not to have conceded 4 or 5 themselves.
I like your blog.
I might sound weird, but Leonardo’s tactics remind me of Brazil 1982 to some extent, with the likes of Motta bombing forward from the midfield, no compactness and no tactical awarness.
Thanks.
Of course Brazil 82 played in a time when teams generally were far less compact. Pressing was not widely practiced and attacking teams truly had the advantage.
Not anymore. Today far less technically brilliant teams can beat their more gifted opponents through good pressing, organisaton and compactness.
I agree, though the Total Football Ajax and Feyenoord teams of the 70s were compact and did a lot pressing, later so did the A.C. Milan of Sachi.
At the World Cup in 82 the Soviet Union team of Lev Yashin were quite a pain for Brazil because the did press and were generally compact.
That match could have gone either way.
Usually the english press were making fun of the soviets for their team work and pressing, comparing their football with agriculture.
this shows that inter2011<milan2010 and ronaldhino is better than sneidjer. both without a doubt creative sparks of their respective sides. leonardo depended on star defenders and indvidual brilliance (nesta, lucio, thiago silva, and samuel) to defend and tactics to attack. Maybe is just that inter is more suited to defending football as compared to milan. Disgrace to italy really!
huh?
It would be nice if you made sense.
Ronaldinho “Barca” > Sneijder >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ronaldinho “Milan”
As a Real Madrid fan, Raul was (and still is) my favorite player. It’s so amazingly satisfying for me to see him still play at such a high level. Last night he simply mastered the false-9/attacking-midfielder Messi/Tevez role to perfection. Always working hard defensively (what else is new?), always available to receive the ball, mostly making the correct decision with the ball, and, of course, brilliant finishing (though only 1 last night).
I honestly think that he has 2-3 years of this kind of football in him.
He maybe the perfect second (supporting) forward, the one that does the running and working. And he scores a lot. Also, he looks happy on the pitch. I hope he will stay for a season or two.
Second best signing in the Bundesliga this season (the 350.000 Euro man Kagawa is no. 1).
I think in a few weeks we will hear the first words in German from Raul.
Lizarazu had to make a goal with the head (or two in back to back games) to start speaking German, and Ribery needed his “XXX-affair” and the backing of the club to start talking German in public. But they are French, just wanted to mention that other big players need years to speak German (or never learn it).
It’s impressive how Leonardo got his tactics wrong for two consecutive games. More than that: two important, huge games!
I guess it’d be better for Inter if he had switched the systems in these two games.
The 4-2-3-1 (4-2-1-3 if you will) he pitched against Milan would probably work better against Schalke. There would be more width in his side and hardly Schalke’s full backs would have the freedom they did. There was no need for 3 men to mark only Jurado (maybe you can put Raúl in this account). Baumjohann and Farfán were supposed to be marked by the full backs. Two holding midfielders could cope with Jurado/Raúl, and two wingers could mark Schalke’s full backs.
This 4-3-1-2 system, on the other hand, could’ve helped Inter in the midfield battle against Milan.
Other thoughts: Sneijder played most of the first half very wide on the left, as the chalkboard on UEFA website’s match centre showed during the game, probably for the reasons you mentioned. He didn’t, though, help Inter in marking Uchida, neither helped with defensive tasks in the centre of the pitch. So it’s not a scare that Motta had to go higher up the pitch (as pointed out by A) to follow Jurado.
Two dismissals in two consecutive games prove that Chivu doesn’t work as centre back. As Ellia pointed out, Córdoba in the centre, Chivu on left and Zanetti on midfield would be much better.
Not much to add about the great game Schalke played. You summed up their strengths very well.
I’d like to say that this scoreline is a result of Rangnicks general philosophy. His teams always played great attacking football (just look at the 5 goals here), but defended often poorly. His idea is just score more goals than the other team does. So he didn’t replace his injured holding midfielder Kluge by the same type of player (Schmitz), but by Jurado. Schalkes 4-1-4-1 system had some problems with long balls (resulting in Inters goals).
(but I can’t predict whether this will be good or bad for Schalke
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I’m glad to see Rangnick back in action. Spectacular games will follow this one
Great write up ZM. Nailed it.
Leonardo has completely destroyed Mourinhos team.
The almost perfect attack-defense transition is gone.
Second he has gotten into his head that Cambiasso should play as a left midfielder,when he is a number 5.Not playing him as a central midfielder you lose his ability to dictate the game,his perfect positioning cutting opponents passing options and mos importantly being the link between transitions and defense and attack.
This helped by Inter lack of compactness has led to Sneijder being forced to play deeper,losing his best qualities.
I agree. Often Thiago Motta is that central man when actually he is more adept going forward. Cambiasso can play the role he is playing but he is merely “good” whereas when playing the No 4 role (english numbering system) he is World Class. The passing, drive and shooting merely add an extra dimension to his game which adds to that World Class appeal (like Lucio’s forward runs or Eto’o’s workrate).
Yet another example of a very narrow Italian side put to the sword in Europe by a side with basic width.
By the way, Rangnick said after the game that he switched to three defensive midfielders after the break, but to be honest I hadn’t noticed it in the game; it didn’t seem to register with anyone else as far as I can judge…
Maybe Baumjohann played more defensive when Inter was in possession.
Bottom line here, is that if the Inter-strikers had finished their 2-3 one vs ones with the goalkeeper, Inter would already have been to the next round. Sneijder was again brilliant, the strikers failed.
No, if you conced 5, the defensive performance was s**t. The midfielders and strikers did nothing to work for the team. Inter looked like a few unfit defenders, no midfield and a few strikers that count on their individual class.
Eto’o is able to do defensive work, but I think the strategy (for this game) was not very good, players looked very tired and Inter has no over all strategy (no teams spirit etc.).
The tiredness is also due to lack of rotation and injuries.
Since Leo wanted to “score one more” Inter was always on the edge and needed its veteran players.
Mou would have just “locked” a game an be happy with a 1-0 victory to rest the key players (and even the Barcelona of Guardiola does this in the second half/last third of the of the season).
Yeah, Mourinho would have rest some of the players in the league and would have been hapy with a 1:0.
It’s very difficult to play very good football if you players are tired and often injured.
Dortmund is doing very well this season. They run a lot, but manager Klopp usually starts with the same players. Although they don’t play Champions League and already left Europa League. And it is a young team, in contrast to Inter. A few years ago Milan was the team of old men.
Rangnick:
“I did well to watch the Milan derby personally,” Rangnick said. “I understood that Inter didn’t press at all in midfield and left big spaces.
“They were vulnerable to quick opponents like Alex Pato and those who are capable of taking the initiative like Milan did.
“I asked my players to give everything, to attack every ball and to play with a high line to be as least far away from the Inter goal as possible.”
I agree with Cambiasso switching to Centre. Also Leonardo shud have played Zanetti in Midfield and Nagatomo as LB when Stankovic got injured.