Barcelona 3-1 Arsenal: Barca press and progress

The starting line-ups
Arsenal didn’t manage a single shot, as Barcelona go through to the quarter-finals.
Pep Guardiola chose Eric Abidal and Sergio Busquets at centre-back, as expected, though there was a surprise at left-back, where Adriano started over Maxwell.
Both Cesc Fabregas and Robin van Persie were fit to start. Arsene Wenger decided to play Tomas Rosicky on the right, and Abou Diaby got the nod over Denilson.
The game was very strange – neither side played as well as they can. Arsenal could barely string more than four passes together, and whilst Barcelona dominated the game, they were tremendously wasteful when they got into the penalty area.
Despite appearing extremely comfortable in the final ten minutes, Barca were somehow only a Nicklas Bendtner shot away from being dumped out, in what would have been one of the unlikeliest progressions in European Cup history.
Arsenal stand off
Arsenal played very differently without the ball, compared to the first leg. In London they pressed relentlessly at the start of the game, but here they stood off more, and focused on getting into a good shape.
The fitness of van Persie an Fabregas may have contributed to this tactic (Fabregas, in particular, was clearly not fully fit) – but Wenger probably also accepted that it’s not possible to press for 90 minutes away at the Nou Camp, and so Arsenal stood off.
Barcelona strategy
Barcelona’s tactics were not markedly different from their standard approach. The full-backs hugged the touchlines and were very advanced – often pushing Rosicky and Samir Nasri back into a back six – and the three forwards took it in turns to come towards the ball and then spin in behind. Arsenal still defended relatively high, but they were deeper than at the Emirates, and therefore were less prone to the ball over the top.
Messi was a threat throughout, and often received the ball in space, but was guilty of trying to do too much – he overran the ball when entering the penalty area on more than one occasion. Take the Arsenal back four against the Barcelona front three, and Arsenal were doing OK – the problem came, of course, from the movement of Barcelona players from deeper positions. Daniel Alves played an especially advanced role and was always on for a diagonal pass when Xavi got the ball in central midfield.
Barca pressing

Barcelona's pressing meant they won the ball high up the pitch (courtesy TotalFootball iPhone app)
The key feature of the game was something we all know Barcelona do well – pressing. Their energy and bravery in winning the ball back high up the pitch is now very well established, but tonight was a particularly good case study. The constant harrying meant that Arsenal were simply unable to work the ball up the pitch, and almost the entire game was spent in their own half of the pitch.
Fabregas’ backheel was a ludicrous decision, but Barca’s pressing can take some of the credit. Not just because there was a player closing down and intercepting at that moment, but because the pressure for 45 minutes had created the backheel. A backheel is something that you try on the edge of the opposition box, when you’re under pressure and need to do something ‘clever’ to get past an opponent. Fabregas is far from a stupid player, but Barcelona were pressuring so much that he felt he had to do something ‘clever’ merely to complete a pass on the edge of his own penalty area.
Second half
It’s not often a side scores a goal despite not having a shot in the entire match, but Busquets’ mistimed header from a corner gave Arsenal an unlikely lead in the tie. Three minutes later, the situation changed again with van Persie’s red card, and from then on, Arsenal could only dream of winning a corner kick.
The sending off alone can not explain the Barcelona victory (20 shots to none is a ridiculous statistic) but it’s fair to say Arsenal’s strategy was compromised. Having dominated the final twenty minutes of both first legs in the past year, Arsenal’s plan may have been to wait until the final quarter of the game and then push on, especially as Barcelona had pressed so much.
Arsenal clueless
Instead, they were barely able to play football. Sky Sports’ commentator Martin Tyler summed it up inadvertently when he suggested that when Manuel Almunia had the ball in his arms, he was attempting to kick the ball downfield at an angle, so there was a chance a Barcelona player would head it out for a throw. What a miserable state to be in – a side famed for their slick passing football reduced to trying to win a throw on the half way line from a goalkeeper’s clearance. The chalkboard on the left shows how few passes Arsenal played in attacking positions.

Arsenal's passing
Barcelona simply passed and passed and tired Arsenal. Xavi broke through for the second to round off a fantastic move, and Pedro won a penalty that Messi converted. Barcelona should have had more, but Almunia was making some good saves.
Changes
It was surprising that Wenger didn’t introduce Bendtner until the 77th minute – Arsenal clearly needed someone who could win the ball in the air from long balls, and also someone who could hold it up. The late chance was a bonus and came out of nothing, other than Wilshere’s determined closing down. He was Arsenal’s best player in each of the two legs.
Guardiola’s changes came after 80 minutes, and didn’t significantly alter the game.
Conclusion
Barcelona being good at pressing is hardly a revelation, and it hardly takes a genius to identify it as a crucial factor in this game – but it was the key feature. Arsenal couldn’t get the ball up the pitch, and Barcelona won possession in positions very close to the opposition goal.
Zero attempts on goal suggests that Arsenal ‘parked the bus’ – even Inter managed one shot in their semi-final last year – but they didn’t, they were simply unable to get past the first burst of closing down.
Barcelona 3-1 Arsenal: Barca press and progress




should have played Eboue’
I think it’s time managers stopped using conventional LMs to counter the superhuman athlete that is Alves…
like Unai Emery….
Yes, I do agree. Though Nasri did well until the red card – then Alves pushed so high Arsenal were obliged to let him go free…
Nasri did do very well in that role, but wouldn’t he have been much more lethal in Fabregas’ role tonight? Shuttling wide left into the space Alves vacated and exposing Busquets’ lack of pace?
The 2008 opening goal of Real Madrid 4-1 Barcelona by Raul is the only recent goal I can find that actually involved some buildup and combination play by the scoring team against Barcelona. Maybe the Copenhagen goal. Surely none of the goals in La Liga this year (Nilmar’s did involve some buildup and then a herculean individual effort). But still, I don’t know what Arsenal were expecting with such little athleticism out there tonight. Clichy at LM and Squillaci at LB probably would have been an improvement (would it really have been that important to play a left-footed player who is a good on the ball at LB for this match?).
Valencia’s first goal in the 2-2 draw in 08/09 was a magnificent move that saw Pablo play a couple of one-two’s to walk through Barca’s defence and slot home.
That being said, Alves’ final ball was off tonight. If his passing had been more accurate, who knows how many goals Messi, Villa, and Pedro might have scored. That deadly left to right through ball that ZM discussed a few months back in his portrait of Alves was on full display.
I thought Alves was the whole show. He played soooo wide and so advanced he constantly caused problems with defenders either going out to him leaving Messi with space, or staying tight and allowing him space to drive deep into the penalty area.
At the same time, Adriano and Villa provided just enough threat on the left to mean that Arsenal couldn’t just overload the defence on the right.
And at the same time, this tactic mainly worked because Arsenal’s “front” “three” RVP, Fabregas and Nasri, were not sufficiently able to exploit the space on the counter attack.
I think Wenger’s tactic’s were correct – stay tight and deep, but Clichy couldn’t handle it and a number of others were below par too.
I don’t think Barcelona were below par, I thought tactically they were able to work a fairly tough Arsenal much better than they did, say, Real Madrid. In the past they’ve been guilty of being too narrow, but on Tuesday they really stretched Arsenal despite how deep Arsenal were, and as a consequence there was space for Xavi and Messi coming through the middle. Smart, brilliant football. I can’t imagine football being any better.
one player doesn’t matter if there is no gameplan.
well AW played so many good possession players that saying there was no gameplan might not be correct, I’ll agree that there was a poorly executed gameplan though. Barca are rarely scored on from carefully constructed attacks as they commit themselves so heavily to winning the ball back immediately–more athleticism/pace would have surely helped, and to pin back Adriano as well.
Let me rephrase that. Arsene Wengar came with one game plan. After Xavi scored they just lost their way, it was horrible. Arsene Wengars attempt of a counter attacking strategy failed epically. They looked like they wanted to challenge for possession and counter attack?!?!?! it was like they were caught in two minds. If you want to do something do it big or go home. Inter milan knew that if they were going to stand a chance, they had to just defend. They didnt even bother to attack because they new barcelona would murder them on the transitions. Arsenal were literally caught in 2 mindsets sit back and then try to challenge for possession. And after Xavi scored they had absolutely no direction or plan. Arsene wegnar didnt have a plan to turn around the game. In the end they looked they were just roaming around the pitch without tactical instructions. Uhh it hurts to even talk about it and i dont care for arsenal i just hate seeing teams so disorganized and under such poor guidance.
Arsenal were probably looking to score on the break as in the first leg but couldn’t because Van Persie was not fit (his movement wasn’t sharp therefore he couldn’t make himself available for a forward pass) and they lacked pace going forwrd. Barca pressed high and Arsenal weren’t able to threaten in behind or force Barca’s line deeper.
Diaby spends too much time dwelling on the ball, slowing down our attacks. He is no where near as capable defensively as song either.
JohnGm, when a player receives a red card it means he has to leave the game and his team have to play with one less player for the rest of the game. From your post it seems unclear whether you realise this.
“Inter milan knew that if they were going to stand a chance, they had to just defend. They didnt even bother to attack…” Really? Have a think about it. They won the first leg 3-1. If they were just going to defend all game then why even play Eto’o and Milito? Motta got sent off and Mourinho had to change things. What the original game-plan was, who knows but the team selection would suggest they had more ambition than you seem to think.
“Uhh it hurts to even talk about it …. i just hate seeing teams so disorganized and under such poor guidance.” Really? Barca dominated the first game too – and lost 2-1. At the point Van Persie was sent off Barca needed 2 goals to progress in the remaining 30 minutes or so (the same number they had scored in the previous 150 or so) – without conceding another. And of course Arsenal were going to finish stronger than them as they did every time they played them.
Who knows what would’ve happened without those (IMHO unjust) red cards. But what is clear is that at the point they were given Inter were 3-1 ahead and Arsenal were 3-2 ahead. I suppose you think Mourinho is a genius because he conceeded 1 but Wenger is a hapless boob because he conceeded 2. And you have a blog, eh? And you need a licence to have a dog.
OK I didn’t see the game, but why did Wenger play Rosicky? Was poor in the League Cup final and still seems lacking in match sharpness, which I think he might never get back having had so many injuries. Would Arshavin’s energy and business have been a better option, even if he’s not on great form himself?
Arshavin? Energy?
In all seriousness, I didn’t expect Rosicky. He’s better defensively than Arshavin, but I still think Eboue there would work for Arsenal in ‘big’ games
Arshavin usually runs about a lot, think he’s more pacey/energetic than Rosicky who’s more of a Carrick-esque stroller (probably harsh). Both have been poor this season.
A fully fit Rosicky from a few years ago (has there ever been one, actually?) might have been a good choice, but he just strikes me as a player who will only ever get back to about 80% of the player he was because his body won’t let him.
I did my knee in a few years ago and basically didn’t do the physio until now, and whenever I play it’s like, OK I was decent but limited, which is what I feel about players like Rosicky. Always a battle against his body, doesn’t look as sharp as he once did.
Yes Eboue would’ve been a good option but risky – hasn’t played much so could’ve been rusty (although he’s used to this being the case and usually does fine), and has a bit of a hot temper, perhaps not the right mentality for such a game.
I’m sorry that’s funny. Arshavin is the laziest player on Arsenal. He only ever runs if he has the ball or sees a scoring opportunity. He never tracks back and recently his form has been questionable at best.
With that being said, Rosicky isn’t talented enough to be in this match.
I wasn’t implying Arshavin would have been better defensively, just that he would have provided a bit of cut and thrust that they were severely lacking without Walcott. At least he might have buzzed about in the last third and made things uncomfortable for the Barca defenders. Rosicky’s more of a clever, passing player, but has not threat in behind whatsoever. But yes, Arshavin’s been on poor form – but so have many of Wenger’s players. Is that the manager’s fault? Might be.
Exactly. I presumed that Wenger had selected him so that he could play on the left and deal with Alves, leaving Nasri free(er) to attack on the right. As it was, Rosicky played on the right against the less-threatening Adriano, meaning Arsenal had no outlet down that side (because of Rosicky’s lack of directness), while Nasri was wasted on the left defending.
If Wenger was so concerned about Alves, he should have gone with Gibbs on the left, who would have been more comfortable tracking Alves’ runs and providing a pacey/crossing outlet of his own. This would have freed up Nasri to play on the right where he would have had more joy.
We saw what happened last time Gibbs played in a big European game, against United (Park’s goal). Also he hasn’t played much recently has he? Too big an occasion for a player who’s young and been in and out of the team for the past couple of years.
With Barca pressing that far up the pitch it was seemingly pace that was lacking from Arsenal’s game. Van Persie may be excellent as a false nine but when there is nothing to come back for he was entirely ineffective.
Though beyond Walcott do Arsenal possess the kind of searing pace necessary to exploit such a high-line? Even Hercules managed it at the dawn of the season at Camp Nou.
It’s a fair point about the lack of pace. So often Arsenal have had a quick striker – Anelka, Henry, even Wright. RVP isn’t slow, of course, but you wouldn’t class him as a pacey player in the modern game.
Injuries and suspensions robbed Arsenal of its only real advantage before the game: athleticism in midfield. Faced with the superior technique of Xavi, Iniesta, and Busquets (Mascherano excepted), Fabregas, Wilshire, and Song compensated with greater physicality at the Emirates. A half fit Fabregas and Diaby (inferior to Song) were bypassed much easier, and had less energy to bring the ball out of defense when Arsenal won it. This game was closer to the 5-0 destruction of Madrid than the 2-1 defeat at the Emirates, at least in terms of where Barca held the ball. It was in Arsenal’s own third for the entire game, with Arsenal’s midfield wall far more brittle.
It was much much much worse than the 5-0 drubbing of Madrid, even before the sending off of Van Persie. I don’t remember even 1/3 of the chances that were created in this game being created in the MAdrid game. The difference was that Barca were much more clinical in their finishing, and even got lucky breaks here or there like the 1st and 2nd goals, in the Madrid match.
Barca are very difficult to beat at home. Madrid attempted to play with them and was killed, Barca attempted to park the plane like Inter and was killed. I think in the end, you will need a possession based game to beat Barca. You must not be scared, and play aggressively, and keep the ball, work it through the middle of the field. Against Barca, if you work the ball past your own half way point, you’re already to their backline and things really start to open up. I think teams usually mess up by playing too conservatively. At least the teams which can really play like Arsenal and Madrid.
“I think in the end, you will need a possession based game to beat Barca.”
Joke of the year.
To win against Barca You need
Pace
Counter Attacking
Physical defense.
Then some added Luck.
To win in Camp Nou, you mean. Of course, if you win the first leg by a big enough margin (like Inter did and Arsenal could have with a little more ambition) then you can happily lose the second leg with a big smile on your face, sprinklers and all
I’d like to remind you – Barca started with a mid and LB as Central Defenders.
Eh. Horrible Red Card. Absolutely unforgivable decision by the ref. Eboue would’ve worked much better than Rosicky and missing Walcott’s presence is very noticeable especially when pressing the ball. Wilshere was the second best midfielder on the pitch by a mile, but Xavi showed his class again and again and again.
In the next draw, maybe a team like Bayern or Tottenham can hit hard and fast at barca with the amazing amount of pace both teams have on the wing.
Wilshire better than Iniesta? i suggest you watch the first two Barca goals again. Iniesta strolled through Arsenal’s weakened midfield time and again, and got the better of Wilshire tonight (unlike at the Emirates).
As for teams to challenge Barca, Bayern were annihilated last time they came up against Barca (4-0 before halftime of the first leg, Bayern should have had two red cards). They are a possession team, not a direct side, and have an even more fragile defense than Arsenal. Spurs have great vertical pace but lack reliable finishers (and no true holder to cover Modric’s movements), and would need to win the Bale vs Alves confrontation to have any hope. The team to beat Barca will have to exploit set pieces, have disciplined wide men to track the fullbacks, strong holders to break up the combination play (by fair means or foul), and a ton of luck. The closest teams to that template are Man U and Chelsea (surprisingly?).
Well, I think Iniesta made a enormous game, he gave 2 assists (the first one, through 3 players). I think it is also remarkable the contribution of new season players from Barcelona, Adriano and Mascherano, made a great game, the last one save Barcelona with a mid-tackle to Bendtner at 81th minute.
Kevin don’t forget the penalty on Messi at 32th minute and the legal goal of Messi at Emirates, if you talk about the refeeres, you have to mention all the errors, otherwise, 20 shots vs 0 of Arsenal talk by themselves. Barcelona is like Brazil of 70’s or Milan of 90’s, they are a top class team, with a game routine, and this routine is just awesome (amazing, magic…etc). Their pressure, just amazing the power, speed and persistence of it.
Barcelona afford to pass round without Pique and Puyol, how many teams can say this? When you make good job on transfer market the results are clear.
Iniesta had 1 assist, on the Messi goal. Xavi’s goal was created by Iniesta’s dribble, but assisted by Villa’s one touch pass. Agree with the rest of your stuff though.
What good jobs have they made on the transfer market? Their last three big transfers have been mascherano, villa and Ibra. Ibra was a horrible call. Mascherano never plays. And Villa’s been a pretty good buy but that didn’t really require any insight to figure out.
It was a horrible decision by the ref. We can all agree on that. Whether he made others is another topic to discuss.
What we need is the stat line with and without RVP. The game after RVP was sent off was a completely different one than the game with.
Shots w/ RvP = 0
Shots w/o RvP = 0
Not that different.
Hahahaha LMAOL
Goals against w/ RvP = 1 (in 56 mins)
Goals against w/o RvP = 2 (in 38 mins)
Not that different?
That’s so wrong. And too funny.
Kevin -> Arsenal fan
No we can not and will not all agree on that. On the contrary: The sending off for van Persie was fully deserved, he was bitching and committing niggly fouls full time and while it’s debatable if that particular incident was worthy of a second yellow card the Dutchman had it coming sooner rather than later.
Wow.
“he was bitching and committing niggly fouls full time”
I was trying to not get into the reffing comments, but I can’t believe you’ve never noticed that this is the practice of far too many footballers. Most of them are not sent off for not hearing the offsides whistle.
Had it coming? Wow okay. Because RVP is the only player out their with an attitude problem. Haha funny, funny, funny. Every time a call goes against a team 2-3 players from the other side have something to say about it. And what “niggly” (really do you have to use that word) fouls did he commit? He got yellow carded on his stupid shoulder bump thing and deserved it. But it wasn’t like he was going heel hunting or anything.
Van Persie picked up a needless yellow card in the first half and paid for it later.
No sympathy.
You have no sympathy for a guy who got a second yellow card for absolutely no reason? I’d like to know how you think he “paid for it later” – perhaps you think that anyone who earns a yellow card for an avoidable reason should prepared to be sent off at any moment, even for no reason at all.
If it were any other yellow-card infraction, even a dive, I would understand. This was quite literally a nothing call, and turned Arsenal from miserable to hopeless. Prior to the red card, they were somehow winning on aggregate – so the red card made a difference, whether you want to admit it or not.
RVP first Yellow could easily been straight Red.. its was obvious face ”punch”
”Prior to the red card, they were somehow winning on aggregate – so the red card made a difference, whether you want to admit it or not.”
Barcelona was winning all the time, they even helped Arsenal misery by scoring own goal.
yeah and abidal grabbed him in the throat, that’s more of a red card than RVP’s “punch”
Bussaca’s decision was a bit harsh, but it’s not the first time van Persie did this. If I remember rightly, he did the same thing in the World Cup match against Denmark and got booked too.
If I remember correctly the 2010 world cup was notorious for the mind numbing and deafening hum of the Vuvuzela.
I remember another game during the tournament where a player was sent of for this same reason. Both instances I considered completely unforgivible on the refs part. In this case, I still disagree with the decision and I think it killed the game as a spectical (at that stage Barcelona needed a goal and you would assume the game would open up), but I lay more blame on van Persie. Also good to remember that Messi was brought down in the box by Diaby so Barca should have had a penalty in the first half.
Clearly Arsenal had a game plan, which was to hit Barcelona on the break. The back four played so narrow, and Rosicky and Nasri so deep, it was clear Arsenal had no intention of forcing the game. I don’t think I have ever seen an Arsenal team so disinterested in attacking. Once van Persie was sent off there was no avenue for a counter attack – despite that Arsenal almost progressed through had it not been for Bendtner’s poor first touch.
The amount of times Arsenal had overwhelming possesion and numerous shots on goal yet lost game to a technically inferior team which defended well enough and scored a scrappy goal or two (Newcastle at Emirates comes to mind).
how many times have we seen forwards shown yellow cards for kicking the ball after the whistle is blown? standard stuff. so what’s the difference here? the game does not (and should not) make exceptions for english teams, managers, or fans. All teams in all competitions suffer or benefit from referring decisions from time to time. how come it’s only made a huge issue when english clubs suffer from such decisions? even in the same match? Last night, Barca suffered as much, if not more. The clear penalty that was not given (for Diaby’s foul on messi inside the penalty area, and no card shown either). Kolchiesny should have been sent off (for the challenge on villa alone, or either for making multiple bookable offenses). the list goes on and on… so who’s biased? sore losers, nothing else, always.
the ref was AWFUL. and we don’t talk about close decisions. he showed no sign of consequence whatsoever. maybe he thought messi wanted nothing but the penalty at the 32th minute (still wrong of course, but all too human), but not booking koscielny after the penalty couldn’t have been more wrong. RVP might have been sent off in the first half, but the second booking was ridiculous, nothing but ridiculous. overall i think arsenal cannot complain about the ref at all but the bottom line is that he was wrong on every crucial situation in the game, and we are not talking about close offside decisions but about things he clearly saw and he had no clue about how to react properly. i always plead for the refs but yesterday’s performance was ludicrous.
Nobody is asking for an exception for English teams.
The difference here is the 1 second between the whistle and the kick and the fact that it’s a Round of 16 UEFA match. Officials shouldn’t be a part of the game in any match never mind a big UEFA match.
Bottom line, officials shouldn’t be the headline story leaving the game. Sometimes that have to be but here he definitely didn’t have to.
Also, you can’t use other missed calls to justify another incorrect one. If anything your providing more ammo to the people that believe that this official was wrong all night.
all u kids need to get over ref decisions..rvp shud nt hav been sent off but kosceilny n song (in d first leg) shud hav been..it goes both ways..however difficult it may b to accept..but refs ARE fair..
what messed up d situation fot arsenal even more was dat even wid 10 men they stil fielded unfit fabregas..virtually playing wid 9 men..dat was avoidable..
I know it’s a blog but seriously nobody can read this mess. How much time do you save by writing “dat” over that? And do you seriously need to end every “sentence” with … ?
The ref was pretty horrible for both teams… not awarded a legal goal to Barça at Emirates, no call for a penalty for Barça, should have sent off Abidal for grabbing RVPs throat, should have booked the guy who commited the penalty… bad bad ref, but in both directions. I don’t think this was directed against Arsenal, if reffing would have been good Barça would have been two goals up one player less going into the second half at the Camp Nou.
i’m not sure if arsenal’s aim was to park the bus and then counter attack with menace but the end result was a group of players that resembled a wall more than a team. i think the loss of walcott’s pace really hurt arsenal.
agree
Arsenal were so bad it hurt to watch them. Unbelivable. You know you played like(___) when the only challenge on the oppositions goal came from one of their players. Wenger has proved him self to be a tactical moron. He cant even set up an effective counter attacking system, pathetic. Im not even an arsenal fan and it was unbearable to watch arsenal. They were just so poor.
Agree
“I’m very proud because everybody urged us to play differently to our nature. We can be proud of the result, but more than pride it can strengthen the belief in our philosophy.”
(Arsene Wenger, after first leg victory at Emirates)
Nice philosophy. Shoot attempts (on target) = 0 (0)
Yeah i honestly. Wenger doesnt use counter attacking startegies often but from this game it looks like he doesnt know how to set one up. I agree arsenal would be better of if they stuck to their philosphy and lost. Opposed to changing it, losing, and being embarrassed at the same time.
As Wenger said in post match interview. It would have been a game of two halfs. As you suggested that Arsenal would press on in the final 20 minutes of the game. But the red card changed that. Although barcelona were the superior side. Still possession isn’t everything.
Regular Barca watchers, Are Barcelona usually this profligate? They should really have been out of sight. I always think Alves has no end product anyway, but even David Villa was missing good chances.
No, usually much more clinical. Ironically they played a bit too much like Arsenal in the penalty area – one ball too many…
Almunia had an excellent match.
Totally agree.
yes. brilliant since he came on. if not for Almunia i think scoreline would’ve been 6-1 (even with villa et al having an off day)…
After that shot by Alves into the Eastern Mediterranean that had even the stadium dog clutching its face and going “Aaargh!”, he had three more clear shooting chances – even clearer than the one that his fellow non-habitual-goalscorer Xavi neatly put away – but each time he seemed to lose his nerve and whimper in panic, “Leo, help!”
Not a single shot from Pedro on a night when his team totalled 20 was a bit unusual too.
Was shocked by Alves’ wastefulness. If he wouldn’t run so much and defend that well for 90 minutes he’d not be playing in any first league anywhere.
“If he wouldn’t run so much and defend that well”. Lol and if Messi wasn’t so agile and quick and if Xavi wasn’t so skilled at passing and had amazing vision. I’m sorry that’s hilarious.
The guy single handedly takes out 2 opponents in most matches by basically playing two positions the entire match. On top of that his offensive attacks force teams to remove another scoring threat (by replacing the normal LW with a LB) or forces someone like Nasri to play defensive football the entire game. Notice how Nasri had few major contributions in the 2 matches? Alves might not be technically amazing but the guy has more than just pace.
Ok ok, this first-league thing was a strong exaggeration, granted.
But basically you are repeating my point. I guess we agree that Alves is a key player to Barcelona, and he is incredibly valuable for them. Because he does what he does. Playing two positions in one game.
Why is he able to do that? Of course tactical understanding. But 80% of it is stamina and speed. (Which in Alves’ case are outstanding).
Now, in that match, he had like 4 or 5 huge opportunities to finally take advantage of his awesome offensive overlap runs. Goals or crosses for goals. All of them he blew colossally. If he was a right wing/forward only (because of lack of stamina), I am not sure Barca would have him in their team. On the other hand if he could not afford to come forward so much (for his stamina) Barcelona would not really be able to play their game.
“Xavi neatly put away”
Im pretty sure he scuffed it and would have been saved by Almunia had it not deflected off Sagna. Do agree about Alves bottling it a couple of times, one where he was one on one and didn’t know whether to pass or shoot
Agreed on Xavi’s goal. Poor kick that just got lucky with the help of Sagna. Almunia could have been more aggressive there, though.
we’ve all noticed this from barca front line in the past 5 or 6 games. messi not being his usual self (except for last night’s superb goal). sometimes they seem to be a bit selfish too (like not making the usual assists and instead trying to score difficult goals… cud it be ego finally catching up with the humbleness that barca stars have adhered to for all these years…?
They are out of form after Christmas break losing tons of chances, but they still manage to get the results they want.
Its most likely complacency. Who wouldn’t be complacent if they were playing on the best team in the world. You’ve beat your closest rival 5-0 and youve accomplished every thing, but their complacency will go away if they get beat 2 or 3 times in close succession. Barca is one of the few teams who would actually benefit from losing once in a while lol.
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judging from some of your comments – “Wenger has proved him self to be a tactical moron” – I’m sure your blog boasts a wealth of deep insight and philosophical reflection. can’t wait to get on there, lol
you should check out that blog, its quite good actually. don’t judge him so quickly.
@JohnGm, If Barca are already this good now, what’s going to happen if they start losing a couple games? After the complacency is gone, you might as well get started on etching Barcelona’s name on every cup they’re in. O_O
Totally agree. I would respect a blogger much more if they report the facts with objectivity (like our friend ZM here) rather than with subjective comments like “Wenger is a tactical moron”!!!
Good analysis ZM, thank you
99% chance you play a lot of Football Manager.
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Steve sorry i got worked up after the game. Arsenal were just so bad.
I’ve actually wondered if Wenger should just run the football operations side (including bringing in and selling players) and leave the coaching job for a new manager. He clearly knows how to scout and develop talent but I think he’s reason #1 why Arsenal haven’t won any silverware the last 6 years.
Interesting Point. just like the first leg, barca especially Villa took one too many touches. Its almost as if they wanted to walk the ball into the net. but as ZM pointed out..0 shots on target for arsenal was the biggest shock. They definitely missed Walcott as his pace could have exploited barcelona on the counter. but great win for barca. they fully deserved to go through.
Usually much more clinical, indeed. Although (and it’s up to the reader to decide how much stock to give this) the word is Barca set their training up in a pseudo-cyclical system such that (they hope) they are sharpest in November-December and April-May. Their last few matches (Aresenal tie, Liga) remind me alot of Barca in early October — incredibly wasteful with lots of 1-0s and 2-1s that should have been the 5-0s that came later. I suppose the next month will tell if there’s any validity to that…
Wow, what an amazing statistic, arsenal could not ecd even muster a shot. Amazing.
In fairness, not the most fascinating report ever. But total dominance and a very obvious key element (pressing) means not much to say….
How would you define Pedro’s role currently under Pep?
agree, was really disappointed reading this article, but that only shows what you expect of this marvelous site.
Cant understand how people can underestimate Dani like Wenger did today, and he is getting paid in the end of the month, incredible.
I watch every Barca game from one to three or sometimes four times, and Ive never seen them press like this… Maybe for the first 20 minutes or so at emirates last year, or some periods in the EL Classicos, imagine Barca pressing like this for every game, insane. As someone mentioned, they need to start loosing more to be on their toes!
Would love to read a deeper analysis of the game, but if not thanks anyway for this great site!
I was very surprised about the lack of pressing at Arsenal’s side. What was Wenger really thinking? If Fabregas is not fit, put Wilshere in the advanced role and have Denilson and Diaby as your holding midfielders, which would give you an opportunity to press Barca. To my eye Arsenal looked very same as the one last year at Nou Camp (although I had thought Wenger learned his lesson from last year’s tie)- ie. sitting deep and waiting to be executed by Messi and his co.
That picture with the defensive interceptions is shocking…I dont have an iphone but is there any way to look at how many of those interceptions came post-red card?
On a more general note: I think if two teams have very similar styles of play (like Barça and Arsenal), the better one will be disproportionately better, whereas contrasting styles make the weaker team more competitive.
I don’t have the means to prove that but we could see that Spain had more problems in the WC final than in the semi-final, e.g. Or take Barça’s semi-final against Chelsea 2009.
I am sure this phanomenon exists in chess and I think it is plausible that this can be seen at various sports (and other spheres of life as well). For the obvious reason that the weaker party will struggle to play into the other team’s weakness.
Well, whatever.
I totally agree with your point, I have said a similar thing to other Arsenal fans. For Arsenal to have beaten Barca, we had to be at 100%, whilst they had to be no more than 90%
Almunia is playing like a sweeper!! Xavi + iniesta are probing…still 1 goal for arsenal + they are through so its still all to play for
No, I’m pretty sure the game is over.
Forum bots are really well articulate these days. Still a bit late, though.
Edit: It stole Rio Ferdinand’s twitter comments. :O
Haha yes indeed, hadn’t noticed that.
I think Arsenal played poorly because they defended too deeply. The only times Arsenal has played well v Barca was with a high defensive line to squeeze the space so Barca wouldn’t have time to pick out through balls and create triangles. They also couldn’t get going because they kept trying to pass through Barca’s midfield, a game they were never going to win. Fabregas couldn’t get on the ball and would have needed to sit deep and play longer balls to the strikers and flanks. Taking off a central midfielder and playing Bendtner and van Persie in a 442 might have worked (that ploy led to Arsenal’s only realistic chance in the game anyway) but by then van Persie had been sent off, so their standard plan B was wrecked. Barca played a nearly flawless game but Arsenal could have done a LOT better with more tactical awareness. A painful loss for the Gunners.
In all, a lame game with one moment of brilliance (Messi), one moment of dumb luck (og), and one moment of sheer imbecility (ref).
What, was the Iniesta, Villa, Xavi goal not at least interesting?
The goal came at 11 v 10–with Fabregas at 75% physically and maybe 50% mentally, it was probably more like 11 v 9; and Wenger isn’t Mourinho.
Barca looked stale, and they have come to rely far too much on Alves’s energy and drive out on the touch to create space and opportunities; so I-V-X can pass through a jury-rigged squad down a man–that makes for interesting soccer? Some have speculated that the first half was Wenger’s version of parking the bus, but why not adjust at 1-1 after VP gets sent off? (This is a blog on tactics, right?)
Point is that the last 30 minutes might have been an interesting, open battle, perhaps even a classic. But just as the game finally began to open up, MB killed it.
Mascherano had a great game. He is really upping his standard of play to meet Barcelona’s, and he’s doing it really well.
Yes, sometimes his job remind me the same job that Davids did for Barcelona on 03/04 season, stamina, awesome tackles and quick passing to one of the creative midfielders.
I could have sworn arsenal played a high line.
I think they did initially, but Barca kept possession very well and eventually towards the end of the first half forced Arsenal back and started creating
ZM, why exactly are Barca so effective pressing as hard as they do? I’ve seen countless other teams try to play the high line and press high up the pitch, but it really seems Barca are a different class playing this way? Have we ever seen another team press this high/hard and as well?
I think it’s because of their ability to keep the ball like no other team in the world. With Xavi and Iniesta rarely ever losing the ball, the players can afford to rest a little when they’re in possession (which is at least 60% of the time) to converse energy for their insane amount of pressing.
It’s not necessarily true that Barca’s style leaves them rested to make pressing easier. I was watching the 1st leg online and saw half time stats (instead of useless pundits). They showed that 4 Barca players (I believe it was Busquests, Xavi, Alves, and Iniesta)had run more than any of the Arsenal players – on average, almost a kilometer more by half time! Didn’t surprise me they appeared to tire in the 2nd half.
would be interested if anyone has stats on Barca’s running distances vs Arsenal’s – i bet Barca actually ran more (esp as Arsenal did not appear to move much further than 35 meters or so from their own goal.
Maybe I worded it wrongly, I’m not really saying Barca’s style means they run less distance.
Look at it this way, you can only press when you don’t have possession, and for a team so damn good at keeping the ball (60% at least, 68% this game), meant they only press for 32% of the time.
Take any team not as good as keeping the ball as Barca, say averaging 50%, so they would spend the other 50% pressing. Obviously, pressing for 32% of the time is less taxing than 50%, especially if they do it as unrelentingly as Barca.
I’ll take the top 3 distance runners in each team as an example (luckily, to make things easier, all 6 played full 90 mins)
Barcelona
Alves 12153
Pedro 11923
Xavi 11880
Arsenal
Wilshere 12028
Diaby 11710
Nasri 11083
At least, from the top statistic, you can see that on average, Barca’s top 3 only run 378.3 m more than Arsenal’s, which is not a lot higher, given how hard Barca press.
So that was kind of an example to how I think the answer is to Seth’s question, why Barca can do it so effectively than other teams even if they play as high a line and press as hard, their ability to keep ball.
FCB only covered 4 kilometers more than Arsenal throughout the game (http://www.uefa.com/newsfiles/ucl/2011/2003764_ts.pdf).
It’s not only the distance you cover that makes you tired. If you can rest well because of having the ball all the time, you have strenght for performing these sprints that make up your distance statistics, but then you have time to rest and then sprint again.
Also, you have to differentiate midfield players (they always cover the longest distance) like Xavi, Iniesta, Busi (although he played CB that night) from the outer-rim players (wingers, fullbacks, CBs, forwards), who run less. There is of course one exception (Alves) who has physical ability to run up and down the line all night long. But, yes, in the end of the night, FCB covered 4 kilometers more than Arsenal.
It would be a fascinating game to see a team match Barcelona for tactics and personnel.
Villareal almost matched them at Camp Nou. Tactics are definitely the same, both teams pressed up high in numbers, compressed space with ridiculously high defensive lines, turning the midfield into an intense technical battle where the first team that blinked had to deal with a breakaway. They don’t quite have the same quality personnel but players like Valero, Cazorla, Rossi and Neymar are close.
Barça still has to play in el Madrigal on April 3, so that may be a match for you to circle on your calendar.
Excellent question. I have my own theory on the matter, specifically that Barcelona expends so little energy on attacking that their pressing is able to be at a pace that is normally reserved for attacking runs.
What I have seen is that most English teams, especially the strikers and midfielders, expend the vast majority of their energy on long runs (chasing long balls) or marauding runs (think Gareth Bale). You never see long runs from Barcelona, except from Alves who is simply a superhuman when it comes to fitness. When there are any runs of length by a Barcelona player, it is not at what I would generally consider a high pace and when balls are played through that lead to goals at the edge of the penalty area, the runs are usually only 10-15 metres.
In short, I think that Barcelona’s style allows them to be maximally efficient in the attack. Short, precision passing forces defenders to back away allowing the attacking Barcelona players to move relatively more slowly toward the goal and to conserve vast amounts of energy in simply pursuing and reclaiming the ball when lost.
That’s my theory, for what it is worth…
And compare the number of times English teams backpass to their keeper vs the number of times Barcelona do that. Helps them keep the defensive line up too.
They keep the ball so well that when they lose it they are usually in, and around, the oppositions penalty area with at least 7 Barca players in that half of the pitch. This allows for a group of players to go hunting for the ball whilst penning the opposition deep in their own half.
Yeah I think your point is key. When Barcelona lose the ball the opponent still has 80% of the pitch to go. This lets Barcelona press without worrying about being beaten on the counter.
Also, most teams press with a couple of players but the back 4 drop back and attackers couldn’t care less about pressing (like Arshavin, Anelka, etc.). Barca’s CBs stay deep but Abidal and Alves both press as do Messi, Villa, and Pedro. Basically by having an amazing team they can gamble more and thus give themselves even more of an advantage.
I think it’d be interesting to see the average postion of where Barcelona win the ball. i’d say with any other team in Europe the average position would be in their own half. 1/2 the balls won are near their own box and the other 1/2 ar in and around the half-way line. Some would be won in the offensive half but not many. Barcelona on the other hand probably gain half their possessions within 20 yards of their opponents box with the rest coming near the half-way line and just a small percentage anywhere near their own keeper.
It’s worth quite a lot as a theory, I think, because I agree with it completely! One of the axioms of the Cruyff/Rexach approach, which goes hand-in-hand with “Receive, pass, offer” is “Let the ball do the running”. If you watch them triangulating and doing their one-twos, the ball may be whizzing all over the pitch like an ice-hockey puck, but each individual player is only jogging almost casually into a new position after each pass, even when they are being pressed hard. Messi doesn’t even jog; he just does a sort of flat-footed shuffle – an amble, almost – choosing wisely when to run full pelt into a space that he knows Xavi, Iniesta or Alves will also have just spotted.
People often comment that Barcelona must be a lot fitter than most of the teams they play against. They obviously are fit, but they’re no physical superspecimens (I’m sure Cristiano Ronaldo could bench-press the entire Barça squad to dust). They just give that impression when they play because they conserve their energy so smartly.
You’re correct Robert. The large majority of Barça’s game, while in possession, is at a jogging pace. The exception is counterattacks, a rare occurence, since the ball is usually in the opponent’s half, especially against parked buses.
The other replies are also on target.
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Barcelona need to find the final ball again in order to start winning more comfortably. Barcelona are making fatigue mistakes, but should catch a second wind for the last stretch of the season.
I thought Adriano should have started the first leg at Emirates for the tidy defensive awareness he showed tonight. I thought Maxwell played a terrible first 20 minutes at Emirates and was lucky he didn’t gift Arsenal a goal or two. It was really diabolical. The only thing worse than his positioning was his distribution.
Mascherano and Afellay merit more playing time in order to keep the team fresh. Thiago should make more league appearances down the stretch as well.
From a tactical view point, the most frustrating team to watch was Barcelona. That a team of their talent could not rip apart the offside trap that Arsenal was using was quite honestly pathetic. Barcelona had possession non-stop in the midfield while their front players were standing in gaps and, at best, making a short 4-5 yard lateral dash(and that only occassionally). Honestly, it looked like completely unsophisticated players that had no tactical knowledge of how to solve the problem of an extremely flat back line. (At one point in the first half, David Villa was actually trying to track start against the back line like you would expect out of a U-12 team.)
A team like Barcelona should destroy any team that tries the defensive tactics that Arsenal employed today. With the midfield players that Barcelona have, they would be able to play ground hugging through passes through the gaps in Arsenal’s back line at will. Their front players have the pace (if they only had the knowledge) to make non-stop lateral runs across the back line waiting to break on the through pass. (And no Barcelona, the through ball doesn’t have to be in the exact gap you’re running at the exact time you make your little 4 yard run.)
The fact that Barcelona’s players did not figure this out by themselves 5 minutes into the match speaks very poorly of the tactical sophistication and knowledge. The fact that Josep Guardiola did not have them doing this after the half time break is unspeakable.
not sure if serious……
haha, I can tell you havent been watching too much Barcelona, the reason they can press so hard is because the pressure starts at the front three, if they were to run at 70 % probability passes all the time and then run to catch the “probable” pass as well they wouldnt be able to do much in their defense, welcome to Camp Nou, this is not Premier League.
This is not about English vs. Spanish soccer (as you can see I’m from the US), it’s about how to penetrate a team playing extremely flat zonal defense and running an offside trap. This is nothing new, and the world has known how to do it since the 1960s. A team playing flat in the back lacks defensive depth and exposes the vital space behind it. Most teams will not risk this which is why it is so rarely seen (especially since the change in the offside rule). In fact, most offenses are designed specifically to force a team’s back line flat so that it can then be penetrated (the false #9 is a good example of a tactic to achieve this goal). However, when a team employs a trap, they are doing half the work for you. The trap itself is a gambit that usually is only employed by a team that feels that it cannot win without using a “trick” of some sort. Lateral running is a fundamental principle of offense: specifically, MOBILITY. It doesn’t mean that your players are out of position to press when the ball is lost. It simply means that they are interchanging positions as they move across the field. Against a flat defense, it also means that they are moving a speed while the defenders are facing up field and at a stand still. Therefore, when the through pass is delivered, the attacker has a massive advantage. The only remaining difficulty is delivering a through pass that splits the gaps in the back line and is not too weighted to carry to the goalkeeper. The latter would be of little concern because the trap (as seen in this game) forces the defense to hold a line high enough up the field that there is lots of space between it and the GK. So, the only question is whether you have the quality of midfield play to approach the back line (10-20 yards) and the players technically capable of delivering the final ball. Clearly, Barcelona did the first and has the capability to do the last. It’s then a matter of tactics: Why didn’t Barcelona do it? (As a note: the other primary method to beat the trap are vertical runs from the midfield. Barcelona’s first two goals were an example of this. The first because of Nasri’s mistake left Messi running from midfield and the second when Xavi ran through. However, this was rarely tried during the match.) You may say that it worked out for Barcelona anyway. Except, if Benter doesn’t make a horrible touch, we might be having a very different conversation, which would be a shame given the superior quality of Barcelona over Arsenal.
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There is no space behind a team when they sit back! They didn’t have a high line after 20 minutes. You can’t go over the top when the last defender is standing in the box! I don’t think after 20 minutes Arsenal were trying to employ a trap. You and I saw two different matches clearly.
When a team sits back with two rows of four you need to have a creative type find space. This is Real Madrid’s biggest problem because they don’t have a Messi type who can find space when the opponent parks the bus. You can’t go over the top when there is no room between the back 4 and the keeper.
Also his name isn’t Benter, it’s Bendtner.
Finally, I second the other reply asking for paragraphs because this comes off as a silly rant and I can’t figure out why or what you’re saying.
First, sorry about the paragraphing: When I first replied it did not seem to allow me to paragraph, my apologies. I also apologize for the Bendtner typo.
On the trap issue: Holding a high line does not necessarily mean that a team is trying to run an offside trap. Many teams will hold a high line for various reasons. From pressing to remaining compact to compressing the midfield, etc. are all reasons a team may hold a high defensive line. However, the question is how the back line responses as the ball approaches and the attack threatens the vital space behind them. If they start to retreat or give ground, then, clearly, they are not employing the trap.
The way that you can tell that Arsenal was running a trap is to watch their backs. Unlike a high line with no trap, where the backs position themselves and move in relation to each other, the Arsenal defenders were constantly positioning and moving in relation to Barca’s front men and the offside line. Watch their heads. See how they would look and take a single step forward. This is a telltale sign that they were running a trap.
Also, a high line is not its absolute position on the pitch, but rather its relative position. For example, if the ball is 25 yards from goal and the defensive line is trying to hold fast to line at the 18, then this is a high line. The term “high line” itself is really meant to describe a defense’s depth–or, more accurately, lack thereof. Obviously, defensive depth is always relative to the point of attack, position of fellow defenders, and position of opposing attackers.
Another issue that I must apologize for is that I must have been unclear on what type of pass should be preferred to penetrate a flat defense. Playing a ball over the top is not the preferred way to attack a flat defense. An air ball will not hold up in the grass (so is more likely to run the the GK), is more difficult to control, and is actually more likely to be intercepted than is a ground through ball. That being said, I think you can see that sufficient space behind the back line and in front of the GK is also relative.
The space behind the back line and in front of the GK is relative to where the through pass is coming from. The question is: Is the GK close enough to close the space behind his last defender (defensive cover) before it can be exploited by a pass and attacker. We have all seen plently of games in which a short through pass is delivered from 20-25 yards behind the defense where a forward finishes one-touch past an on-rushing GK. Considering that Barca had midfield supremacy and could operate at will in and amongst Arsenal’s midfield, they were in prime position to exploit Arsenal’s flat defense.
Lastly, and this is not meant to sound condescending, your assertion that the way to beat a defense sitting back is with a creative individual who can find space for himself is a rather simplistic view of the game. (If this was the case, then every team would still be playing strict skin-tight man-to-man marking all over the pitch.) Offensive is about the creation and exploitation of space. As a collective endeavor, the “creating” of space and “exploiting” of space are most often done by different players.
This is why we have such terms as “unselfish running.” Off the ball attackers must put defenders in a bind. By being mobile, the attacker makes the defender make a choice: either he lets the attacker go and run unfettered or he follows him and concedes space behind. In other words, mobility by the attacker means that the defender must yield space somewhere (it is the defensive scheme that determines which choice the defender makes). In the modern game, a team cannot rely on an individual player to make and exploit his own space: modern defenses are just too good. It must be a team effort. This lack of collective recognition of how to beat Arsenal’s defensive scheme is the essence of my criticism of Barcelona in this match.
did you read ZM’s Dani Alves piece?
They look to penetrate mostly thru thier numbers 2 and 5.
No, I’ll look for the piece and read it. (BTW, are you saying that they primarily look to penetrate with the right back and center back?) I still think that it is important that a team is able to adapt their tactics to the match to solve the problems presented by the game. This was a rather simple problem and they seemed at a loss on how to solve it. I understand that Barcelona prefers to make support runs (often at the expense of penetrating runs) and penetrate mainly through quick interpasssing and local movement or via the dribble, however, if a team presents you such an opportunity (especially if it rescricts the space for your preferred method of penetration) then you should have the tactical know how to adjust and take advantage of it.
Read the Alves piece. I agree with it, but it is a tactic of most use against a defense that is trying to maintain depth rather than one that is sacrificing it to compress the midfield and/or catch the opponent offside. The reason being is, as ZM says, his preferred run is on the end of a ball played from the left center midfield area. In other words, from the strong side to the weak side. It’s effective because the defense usually concentrates its depth and cover to the strong side. This type of pass exposes the defense where it lacks cover and unbalances them and turns them. This is a tactic that is unnecessary against a defense that is not providing depth, and, more importantly, is less likely to work. The reason is that the long diagonal pass (if on the ground) is more likely to be intercepted because the opponent’s purpose of the flat high line is to compress the midfield. Also, the flat line, although lacking depth and cover, is more likely balanced. Therefore, the effectiveness of the penetration is less than against a deep defense that you turn with the move.
I think you have an interesting point in here somewhere, but your wording makes it a little convoluted.
And in the Dutch numbering system 2 is the right back and 5 is the left back. Since we were talking about Barca I thought it’d be more appropriate than the English 2-5-6-3 numbering.
They did penetrate quite well on the 3rd goal, but it’s not easy to penetrate a team playing deep. Barca still created enough chances to win 5-0. They’re usually much better at converting chances.
Watch the Clasico from this year if you want to see barca beating an offside trap more directly. In the first half david villa was flagged offside just barely a couple of times and then scored a second half brace from identical runs.
Barcelona must have score more offside goals in la liga than any side in history. Virtually one every two games or so. I’d hate to be a linesman in one of their games – you’d be sure to make at least one mistake.
Knattspyrna,
I figured you were talking about the two outside backs, but I wanted to be sure. Could you give me a run down of the Dutch numbering system? I know that the English is different from both them and the South Americans, but I am not fully familiar with either the Dutch or the South American or if they are the same.
Perhaps the author of this blog could do an article on Barca and their style, and most importantly, what type of play would be able to defeat them at their own game.
I think people make a mistake when they claim you have to sit very deep and counter attack against Barca. I think the best way to defeat them is to play their game but a bit more direct. Valencia comes to mind. Valencia, at the Camp Nou, have outplayed Barca using their possession oriented style.
When you get possession, keep possession, force them to burn energy by running around pressing you. Do not just kick it up the pitch hoping you keep possession, this is what Barca WANTS you to do. The key here is to have your 10 players correctly positioned on the pitch. If like most teams (Arsenal today) you are scared this is not possible, because once you win possession back, you’re midfield is too deep in your own half to do anything. They need to be further up the pitch so there are options in the passing game. This is a risk because you can get caught out, but the way I see it is that it’s not really a risk since your chance at vicotry is ZERO if you sit too deep and simply defend. If your midfield is higher up the pitch, you may concede, but you also provide the necessary ingredient to actually playing with Barca. Next, you must play the ball through the middle of the pitch, not through the air with long balls. Barca just want you to surrender possession by playing those long balls. Play it through the middle. If you are able to break over into Barca’s half their defense becomes very suspect. They have so many people up front providing the initial pressure, that once you break by this first line of defense, the defense in general weakens greatly.
great post. I was amazed how often Arsenal panicked when they had possession near their own penalty area. Hoofing it up and bypassing the midfield is what Barca wants you to do, and thats one of the reasons they have so much possession in the first place. Why don’t the opposition put their foot on the ball, shield it and play it calmly out of defense into midfield.
Bilbao cause a lot of problems for Barca by- yes pressing, but also playing long balls. That’s also how Mallorca scored on them. Hercules played very deep and beat Barca at Camp Nou. Valencia are far more talented than any of the aforementioned teams…
Real Betis played well against Barca, too, back in January when they beat Barca 3-1 in the second leg of their Copa del Rey tie. It was the first game I remembered seeing for while where an opponent managed to control possession and force the game into Barca’s half. Betis was up 2-0 within the first 10 minutes, before Barca started to get back into their game a bit.
I don’t know how much you can take from the Betis game, considering the 5-0 1st leg. And Barca actually had 60% poss. in that 2nd leg.
Of course, every team knows the value of keeping the ball against Barcelona (especially if they’re a technical, possession side themselves), but it is really easier said than done, given how good and well-drilled they are in pressing.
Is Barcelona really beatable at their own game? I think unrelenting pressing of your own is the way to go. A lot of people praise Inter’s majestic defensive performance at Camp Nou, and rightfully so, but they forget that the game was still eventually lost 0-1. Inter won the tie at San Siro, where they pressed non-stopped, and attack attack attack.
Chelsea was the other team to almost beat Barcelona by sitting very deep, if not for some unlucky officiating, but I feel the current Barca side is a lot more ruthlessly efficient than the dynamic Eto’o Henry Barca side of 2008-09. Inter also had some help with the same strategy from Ibrahimovic taking up Messi’s space, a weakness the current Barca side does not share.
Unfortunately, heavy pressing also means playing a high-line, and someone of Xavi’s quality will eventually find a pass that will break your offside trap, and you have to rely on some good luck with offside calling from the officials, or poor finishing from their strikers (like the game in the first leg).
TL;DR
Is the current Barcelona side really beatable at their own game? Unfortunately, unless with luck on your side, I’ll say the answer is no. Assuming they go all the way in the CL, there are still 5 games to go (and the El Clasico), and I hope some team can prove me wrong.
Great post, although I must point out that what you suggest is certainly much harder in practice then theory….there are maybe a handful of teams worldwide that have the quality to keep possession against such high pressure and not panic and turn the ball over. Valencia, as you mentioned, is a team of such quality. What was unfortunate, IMO, about last night’s game was that Arsenal, too, have enough quality (marginally, especially is Eboue was in for Rosicky) to play the possession game and make Barca work. Alas, Wegner seemingly (wasn’t really clear what he was trying to do) belived that the drop deep, couter attack tactic was the only way out (Again, if he belived this to be true, why ROSICKY?)
Before the sending off it was 1-1 and yes Arsenal didn’t have a shot on goal but were Inter-esk in their defensive duties. There is no reason to say an extra 10 minutes at 1-1 and the introduction of Arsharvin,that Arsenal couldn’t have caught them on the break( they nearly did anyway).
In saying that Barcelona were the better team, but Arsenal had no interest in being the better team!
Also Barcelona’s arrogance is stupdendous. A fully fit and direct side could really do a number on them. The fact that they almost got knocked out had Bendtner not been rubbish is amazing!
In fairness, I think a fully-fit backline with Puyol and Pique would help Barcelona out tremendously in such a circumstance.
and to be fair, a fit fabregas and song being present would’ve helped this side out quite a bit as well.
Barcelona were clearly the more dominant side, but I have to echo an earlier sentiment: with the match 1-1 after 56 minutes, with 11 men, arsenal had a chance. As in the previous games, their most expansive football came in the last 15-20 minutes of the game so who knows what would have happened–even with this of course a barca victory seemed the mostly likely outcome. The red-card
And Walcott. I think he would have been key because he can single handedly counter attack especially against a team that brings their back 4 so high up the pitch.
what arrogance are you talking about? Because they said they played better and deserved the victory?
Excellent analysis. I don’t know why teams playing Barcelona don’t use Rafael Benitez’s template: systematic pressing to the point of “suffocation” and a deadly holding midfielder to mop up any stragglers that get through. This effort is then complemented by excellent counter attacks in numbers when in possession. After all, which recent foreign team apart from Liverpool has gone down there and actually won? Pep Guardiola’s masterstroke was playing Mascherano albeit necessitated by Busquets dropping into defence. He was the one who pressurized Fabregas into the backheel and hounded Bendtner into fluffing his lines when presented with a gilt-edged chance. He was the subtle difference in the match not the referee as Arsene would have us believe. Wenger needs to get a proper holding midfielder to serve as the fulcrum of starting attacks.
Benitez’s template? ‘Deadly’ holding midfielders? Do you remember how many red cards Mascherano got while playing for Benitez?
Barcelona will just get everyone on your team in the referee’s book.
I’m not sure, but none is my guess.
That Barca team that Liverpool defeated in 07 was not the same team that’s been at the top of Europe the last four years. The clubs that have matched Barca these last years (Manchester United, Chelsea, and Inter) all sat deep and countered. If you have the defensive players and organization, it’s by far the most effective strategy. Trying to press high will result in Barca just passing through the midfield with ease. See Real Madrid and Arsenal for examples.
In the first leg Arsenal did an excellent job pressing the intended receiver of the pass. In many ways they prioritized pressuring the end of the pass rather than the man with the ball.
Barcelona players generally prefer ball to feet and their tendency is to one touch the ball quickly over the shortest distance. Arsenal took advantage of that pattern at the Emirates. They disrupted Barca’s possession and buildup effectively.
In the second leg Barca focused more on circulating the ball very quickly and precisely. They moved the ball faster than Arsenal defenders could react to close down the receiver of the pass.
Barca also enhanced the diversity of their passing game. They passed more into space for players to run onto (Messi in particular) and also added the dimension of playing more balls over the top. These never became major points of focus – just new dimensions for Arsenal to have to consider when defending.
Today Barca also did a more effective job of holding the ball longer to make runs that forced Arsenal to commit to playing the ball rather than defending the pass. These often weren’t long runs – but they were a change from the one touch pattern Barca often utilizes and that became somewhat predictable at the Emirates. Iniesta in particular did this effectively as did Alves and Adriano off the flanks.
Barca has had issues with it’s left flank width for several matches now. Teams have been allowing Maxwell time and space on the ball because he doesn’t look to build dangerous play.
It was very telling that Guardiola played Adriano rather than Maxwell away against Valencia. Guardiola had not won at the Mestalla and Valencia away was going to be one of Barca’s most difficult fixtures of the season. And for that match he chose Adriano and he played very well.
Having a more dynamic presence on the left made a significant difference. Arsenal stayed very compact in leg 1 and made the pitch functionally small. The width on both flanks made the pitch large for Barca in attack again.
Finally – I agree with Barca’s press being critical. It was outstanding today again. Every player on the pitch commits to defending. Messi and Pedro are two enormous keys to the way Barca press and in leg 1 both were off form and appeared fatigued. Today they were dynamic. The entire team closed down Arsenal players with remarkable, coordination and speed.
The Barca finishing was very off form. Otherwise they played at a very high level. For me, this match was much more about Barcelona being particularly on form and at home rather than Arsenal simply being “bad.”
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I fink arsenal played a very good game today.
Their defensive line played up high…
with the midfield stay only 10-20yards in front of defense…
this gave barcelona limited chance to create killer passes…
If arsenal they didnt has red card…
i fink they have a chance….
One of the most interesting talking points in football at present surely must be: how do you play against Barcelona?
It was staggering to see a team of Arsenal’s convictions lacking any coherence with the ball this evening. It is too simplistic to suggest that Barca’s pressing was solely the cause of Arsenal’s poor showing; they seemed nervous, without confidence and looked every inch the young side they are.
But, even taking into account these observations, and Barca’s exemplary regaining of possession, there must be a question mark over Arsene Wenger. There was ample time to study Barcelona in between ties and to work on any system that you would care to employ. I saw no evidence from Arsenal’s display that they had worked on any combinations that would afford them possession of the ball. Their passing was slow and laborious, with not a hint of an idea of any transistions from defence into midfield.
One of the luxuries that Barcelona afford the opposing team is that they will not change their philosophy: possession football to the point of psychosis and an intense pressing game. Any player who has the temerity to dispossess a Blaugrana player will feel the retribution of three to four small men snapping at their heels almost instantly. This poses problems but also suggests a solution.
My tuppence worth on the matter is that to have any chance of seeing the ball against Barcelona you must play them side to side. Let me explain. Most teams, even when pressing, will keep some semblance of a shape; which is to say that their players will be evenly spread throughout the pitch. Guardiola has no such compunction. For his pressing game to work there must be instant pressure on the ball by a small group of players. This must free space up elsewhere; but this is where the hard part comes in. Opposing teams must recycle the ball out of this initial encounter very quickly and shift play to the other flank.
Easier said than done. Guardiola doesn’t mind overloading his players in one area of the field because his team are so adept at regaining possession that they are rarely caught out of position. If any team has successfully implemented phase one of my crazy, brilliant, shit, genius plan then like clockwork three or four Barcelona players will be haring towards the ball. Some forward progress should hopefully have been made in the transistion of the ball across the field and the same drill must be implemented once the familiar pack of Barca bloodhounds is in attendance. Trying to play too direct against Barcelona is, in my opinion, fruitless. They will have too many bodies centrally and they will win the ball with ease. Taking the ‘long’ way round seems the only feasible option.
A rubbish plan? Maybe. But at least it’s a plan. Which is more than I saw from Wenger’s boys tonight.
Perhaps something else to add to your very worthwhile suggestion: to exploit the space directly behind Alves (primarily).
I’ve been pondering for a while the way if the simplest answer to the question of Barcelona’s pressing, once it has dispossessed Barcelona and is interested in counteracting the immediate pressing, is not to do what every team tries to do (escape through the short, meticulous passes that they are witnessing but cannot do themselves) but instead find a way to release a player into the space left empty by Alves (as an example). With the center backs only infrequently involved in the attack at an advanced position, there have to be two players available to move into space. At the very best, they will not be pursued into the empty space that may be reached by means of your long ball, and at the very worst will be pursued into the space by one of the center backs at which time it would only be necessary to play a one-touch pass to the other striker as he moves into the space either left behind by the center back who is covering or into the space left behind as he goes to cover.
While this may seem as nothing more than a simple counterattack, it is a little bit more than that because the point isn’t to pursue a breakneck pace directly toward the goal but rather to exploit the space left behind at a breakneck pace. Too often, though, English strikers play so flat against a back line and so close to the defenders that they aren’t able to exploit the space that is available.
Just a thought, but I’m open to critiques and reformulations…
The two matches last year and Arsenal’ win over Barca in the first leg had one thing in common; Theo. Arsenal just did not have any out ball and Barca need not worry as they did in the first leg when Maxwell stayed in his own half to counter Walcott and even then he could not manage it all times (specially in the first half). Adriano in this tie was like another attacking midfielder. Arsenal lacked SCINTILATING pace upfront and they also could not make the pitch wider in forward areas more often, which would have been very productive as Nasri showed a couple of times. I felt Arsenal players missed a lot of passes in their own half as they were always on the backfoot trying to retain their shape. A deliberate tactic maybe for the launchpad in the final 20 minutes. Not going to hide behing the sending off, we were completely outwitted.
This game made me finally understand why Wenger wants Walcott to be a striker. In the future a healthy Walcott playing up front would allow Arsenal to go over the top if they lose their touch again. Walcott could burn by Busquets and Abidal and really stretch out Barca.
I think the key to beating Barca is by forcing the back four to stay back and no not just Alves. Barca’s possession dominance relies on Xavi and Iniesta being to play the ball forward to Messi, Villa and Pedro, out sideways to Alves and normally Abidal and backward to Busquets, Puyol and Pique. We’ve seen that playing a high line and forcing the forwards to stay close to the midfield a team can slow down Barcelona (like Arsenal did game 1). However, Barcelona still dominate possession when their opponent plays a high line because Xavi and Iniesta have other options. If a team could load up their attackers with pace and force the back four to stay deeper then Xavi and Iniesta would become more isolated and have to make longer passes. Both are still amazing with long passes but for anyone a short pass is more likely to be accurate than a long pass. So basically keep the front 3 compact to force short passes thru a clogged defense away from your goal and keep your front 3 as high up as they can be to cut down on the outlets for Xavi and Iniesta.
I think Arsenal’s lack of pace really cost them.
Not only did it affect their counter attack, but it also allowed Barca to push higher up. The mere presence of Walcott in the past made Barca more cautious in their pressing. Today they went all out because they knew Arsenal didn’t have the pace to get in behind them.
I don’t think Arsenal played defensively. They played deeper than they did at the Emirates, and didn’t press as much (maybe Fabregas’s fitness had something to do with it) but they still played relatively high up.
They defended well in the first half but really, really struggled to put 2 or 3 passes together. Again, Cesc’s lack of fitness might’ve been a factor here.
The second half might’ve been different, we’ll never know. But you can’t discount the influence of the sending off.
I think the idea was always to let Barca tire a little bit and bring on Arshavin and Bendtner for the last 20 minutes. If it had been 1-1 or even 2-1 at that point Arsenal had a good chance of taking it.
Unfortunately another game ruined by an overzealous referee. What was he thinking?
Wilshere excellent ? I can remember several occasions when he tried get the ball out of their half of pitch an lost it. Granted that is understandable mistake for young player, but Nasri/Song were more composed on ball.
Yes your right, Song didnt lose the ball once. excellent performance!
Diaby on the other hand…Awful
Song wasn’t playing. Wilshere was great, just a shame that he was up against the 2 best exponents of midfield play that there has been in the last 20 years.
Keith on March 9, 2011 at 6:22 am
So basically keep the front 3 compact to force short passes thru a clogged defense away from your goal and keep your front 3 as high up as they can be to cut down on the outlets for Xavi and Iniesta.
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Easier said than done. How far up the pitch is this front three supposed to push. What will be the distance between your lines. The reason teams struggle to play against Barcelona is because they have invested in their players’technical abilities, that are not matched by any team currently playing ( piggy in the middle). Admit this first and decide if you are going to employ high pressure defence or bunker defence defining the distance between your lines and stick to that approach. Playing against this team is not a normal fixture, they are so flippant good.
No way do I say Barca are anything but special and in no way do I think beating Barca is easy. However, we’ve seen that Barca lose like 5% of their matches when teams try to park the bus and win 1-0. For every Hercules match you get 10 like you did with Arsenal. This team has 6 world class attackers and no team has the defensive talent to keep Barcelona from getting their chances. This team has 78 goals in 27 La Liga matches and that’s with them toying with the opponent for most of the final 30 minutes instead of trying to score more goals.
Nobody has found a way to crack Barcelona. I think in part it’s because it’s safer to take a 3-1 loss then open up the game and risk getting a 5-0 beat down. But the truth is in s single game a loss is a loss (it is different however with Arsenal taking a lead to the Camp Nou though).
This team beats you two general ways. 1. They don’t let you have the ball so you can’t score and 2. They slowly pick you apart and find space for their 5 attacking players. Arsenal’s defeat this year demonstrates how successful step #1 is and the Barcelona Messi beat down last year shows the success from step #2. So the key to beat them is to not let Barcelona hold the ball 80% of the game and not let Villa, Messi or Pedro have lots of space. Arsenal did a great job slowing down Barcelona by playing a high line at the Emirates. Yes, Messi had a couple of missed chances but he was more or less contained. However, Barcelona still dominated time of possession (and just as importantly where the possession was).
Barcelona plays their game through Xavi and Iniesta and when Arsenal played a high line there was little room between them and the front 3. As a result Xavi and Iniesta either 1. played the ball over the Arsenal defensive line or 2. retained possession by passing it sideways or backwards. They had some success going over the top but more or less lost possession when they did that. However, Arsenal then had the ball deep in their own half and were not an immediate threat at scoring. Most the time Barcelona would win the ball back by midfield. Since Barcelona don’t like losing possession Xavi and Iniesta mostly passed the ball out wide or backwards. What I’m saying is that if you do deploy a high defensive line AND push your forwards towards the half-way line then Xavi and Iniesta have fewer options. They cannot easily pass is back to Busquets or sideways to Abidal or Alves because they are further back then they normally are.
Barca would then need to make a choice. Either let Xavi and Iniesta go 2 vs 2 in the middle of the pitch or bring their back line even more forward. Now Xavi and Iniesta should/could take any other teams midfield but that’s less successful then having a 7 vs. 6 advantage that they normally have (subtract Barcelona’s front 3 and the opponent’s back 4). Barcelona would turn the ball over more and because your forwards are high up the pitch you actually could do something about it. Having the ball in your own end is worthless because few teams have the technical ability to get around Barcelona’s pressing. But if your fast forwards are already at the half-way line your odds of scoring are way up.
Wenger’s approach to this seemed really confusing to me. i understand why you might leave arshavin for later in the game.. but rosicky on the right seemed to achieve very little.
i would have thought a formation where Van Persie plays high on the right (which he has done in the past effectively cutting on on his left) and a denilson as an extra center midfield player would have caused problems for Barca considering the issues in defense they had coming into this game. .
Just pointing out a few things:
1) Arsenal’s lack of depth in personnel.
It’s strange to me that a team of Arsenal’s stature, has only one competitive holding player in their team. Neither Diaby or Denilson are comfortable in that role, and to be fair, I wonder in what role exactly Diaby is comfortable in. Also the sale of Eduardo has left them with only one pacey player in the team, being Walcott. Not to say by any means that their side is sluggish, but they do lack in raw pace.
–> lack of speed.
That’s what ultimately allowed Barca to play such a high defensive-line and press on like a team of tax collectors, because they didn’t have to worry about long balls over the top nor quick breaks from the wings.
2) The sending off
It can be argued wether RVP heard the whistle or not (I’m 90% sure he did hear it), but it was unbelievably harsh red. I’d like to know wether anyone has ever gotten a second yellow card in a similar situation, on a european cup round of 16- or even in a domestic cup. Barcelona were by far the better team before the sending off, but with 11 men Arsenal would’ve had a decent chance of challenging them.
3) Cesc’s horror pass
I think Arsenal defended extremely well in the 1st half (though not many agree). They pressed very smartly, getting quickly close to their opponents, but they didn’t engage themselves in challenges they were bound to lose. Obviously, Barca did create some decent chanches, but that’s always going to happen against them. Arsenal played very narrow, moved well and Nasri was surprisingly disciplined in tracking Alves. Rosicky on the other hand defended strangely to me. He didn’t pick up Adriano, and neither did he pick someone in the centre of the pitch- he was somewhere in the middle. I wonder how Wenger had instructed him to defend?
And then, in 1st half extra time, their captain gifts Barca a goal. That’s enough for any team to suffer a blow in morale and Wenger having to ponder how to approach the 2nd half.
*(After this they somewhat miraculously got a goal, and again, their hopes were dimmed just a few minutes later. Extremely though place to be psychologically.)
4) Class from the bench
How many other teams in Europe could be SO uneffected having their 1st choice centre back pairing on the sidelines? To be fair, Arsenal didn’t really test them defensively, but it’s still something to marvel at. Adriano and Masch had very good games, and Busquets/Abidal were comfortable at the back.
5) The art of acting (A genereal point of Barcelona)
Technique vs. pshysicality has been the great battle of football since- well ever, and quite frankly, I do enjoy it very much. It doesn’t require a footballing genius to see that Barcas obvious weakness is their lack of height and strength, even against a team like Arsenal which isn’t exactly the most powerfull team in the world. So how come have we come a the point, that teams are unable to exploit this weakness?
Obviously the main reason is that Barca move the ball so quickly that opposing players can’t get near to them, but the way most Barca players throw themselves down from the slightest contact saddens me. It’s being done because it’s so amazingly effective. Quick turn, and soon as one feels a player in his back/side- fall. I don’t want to turn this into a ”football is a mens sport”- rant, but something should be done.
I’m not talking about how players (generally speaking) exaggerate their pain, nor how some players fall without contact, but those very battles we are so accustomed to see in football, ”a shoulder against shoulder”.
Wether the Barca idolising footballing world admits, (and you can count me in on that group), escaping physical battles is a VERY big part of their game. And since taking the fall is the easiest way with most referees, that’s the route many players go. It’s unfair to the teams who do rely on physicality more than tidy passing, just as long as it’s done within the laws of the game. If things were the other way around, and there was to be a overly physical team who dominated the field, and they’d get away with 50/50 challenges time after time, that would cause a lot more talk.
yea yea yea…stating the obvious.
“The sending off” – looked indeed like a too harsh decision (although technically correct). Had vPersie done similar things before during that match? ‘Big matches’ are difficult to referee, sometimes a sending off comes to harsh, sometimes it does not come ‘for the sake of the game’, even if it was deserved. Koscielny, e.g., could have been sent off for his second or third hard tackle. Remember Serbia-Germany last WC? Klose was off at minute 35 after exactly two (not particularly tough) tackles…
“The acting” – I thought yesterday Barca ‘acted’ less often than usual, although I agree they generally are doing that often, especially Busquets and Iniesta. Messi did not act when he was fouled in the box yesterday, though, should have been a penalty.
For good acting, by Iniesta e.g., check the WC final against Holland. Although additionally the Dutch started off very violently.
i could be wrong but i find barcelona flop far less than most other european squads. i will make the alves exception. he is by far the worst offender on the squad. will have to look out for iniesta and busquet in future matches. and messi seems like the anti-flopper. he is more likely to stay on his feet to his detriment if framing a foul is the goal. and sad as it seems, the refs are all the more likely to respond should a player end up on the turf.
Diaby is really an attacking midfielder, his best position is just behind the striker or on the wing.
People who think he is a defensive midfielder just because he is similar in stature with Patrick Vieira and they both comes from the same country are crazy, they have totally different qualities.
So you decided to make four obvious, albeit valid, points so that you could get to what you really wanted your post to be about, “Barca are a bunch of divers”…..I’ve heard this argument presented multiple times, but I just really don’t see it. Yes, their players have a tendency to go down in a heap like they’ve been shot, but I’ve yet to see a football game in the past five years where I didn’t wonder if a player had turned amputee based on the way he was writhing on the pitch.
Now, as far as diving goes….I really don’t believe the Barca players are taught to, or intentionally seek out opportunities, to dive. These are some of the most technically gifted players in the world, doing things with the ball that less than a half a percent of footballers worldwide could dream of doing….in turn, they get hacked down and knocked because they are so technical, and because the defense really doesn’t know how to cope with the situation. When you are trying to defend the kind of one-touch, exceptionally quick football that Barca plays, you often resort to just hacking at the ball and guessing, which results in numerous fouls.
Do the players embellish? Without question….but that is more a problem with the referee IMO. I think there’s litte evidence, though, that the players are divers
“Now, as far as diving goes….I really don’t believe the Barca players are taught to, or intentionally seek out opportunities, to dive” …
No, they actually pick that up in Independent Studies outside of La Masia.
“Do the players embellish? Without question….but that is more a problem with the referee IMO”
Yeah, it’s the referee’s problem that he gets deceived by these “most technically gifted players in the world”. Apparently it’s even gauche to actually point out their flaws now, eh ?
Someday, all this barcelona hero-worship will end. Check out the dive below. He even got a penalty for his trouble. I bet you must think the players piss perfume too ! Geez
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6MUPDdNQqE
Hey, relax mate… Stop being so jealous (of barca) all the time.. It’s not good for your health ..,;)
You misunderstood me. I tried to explain myself in a way, so it wouldn’t get to an argument about diving, but english isn’t my native language (and I had to google embellish ;D).
I’m not saying Barca are a bunch of divers, but my main point was to say that avoiding physical battles is a huge part of their game. Embellish is a fine choice of words to describe a part of their strategy to accomplish this. It’s next to impossible to overpower someone like Iniesta in a challenge, because the whistle gets blown 90% of the time. That’s just not right in my opinion.
And as I stated, this is mostly a problem because of the referees, not the players.
What I’m trying to say, is that it’s not fair for the teams who are more physical, not to be able to use their strenght’s against Barca or other technically superior teams. It’s diversity in styles/players/teams that makes football so exciting for me.
I simply disagree on your point.
Barca plays an attacking football, always trying to get the defense desorganized. Part of this is to grab fouls and get your opponents booked so that they cannot be too harsh in their challenges.
If all the players in the world are yelling after the referee, jumping and embelleshing, it is simply because it is effective. Even as a sunday player, you learn to know that you have more chances to hear the whistle if you fall down that if you stay on your feet and lose the ball. So players do.
If you consider a football pich as a battle field, it is simply a weapon that any teams should use, and so they do. Nothing unfair in that.
Completely agree. A fine point well made.
This simulation is a symptom of the footballing culture of Spain (the loudest cheer besides a goal being scored is for a perceived bad challenge); which simultaneously produces excellent technical football but also this type of behaviour.
The referees, the majority of which are in awe of the prestige of Barcelona, give way too many cheap fouls and cards against Barca’s opposition. This over zealous officiating, which is the norm in Spain, is rapidly becoming the standard in Western European football. This is a huge shame because, as you quite rightly pointed out before, a certain physicality is part and parcel of the game, as long as it’s legal. This different way of playing is becoming increasingly persecuted, which in turn, makes football less diverse and ultimately less interesting.
After watching many continental league matches I often find myself hankering for a good contest and actual tackles. It seems strange to cheerlead the Premier League, especially after the amount of sub-standard football that it produces, but; compared to a lot of other leagues, I feel that I’m watching a game of football and not 11-a-side futsal.
I have no truck with the sort of lunges that we saw from Carragher and Rafael, but once we start diluting the game to the point where it is virtually a none contact sport then we are in dangerous waters. For, if this were to become the case, there would be no way to make the game more physical again, and thus, a great part of the beautiful game will be lost forever.
check this out, maybe: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sJhh-YcvbU
WRT your point no 5., I agree with you that modern laws of football have gone to the other end of the spectrum vis-a-vis physicality, after spending years and years turning a blind eye to thuggish behaviour. Football is after a body contact sport, and so a little bit of shoulder-to-shoulder, tap on the achilles tendon, etc is, I beloeve par for the course. Having said that, do for a moment stop and think of the difficulty in legislating on ‘degree’ of physicality to be used… It’s not surprising, then, that FIFA has plonked for the other end of the scale.
In fact, the main reason why a team like Barca, and, what the heck, even Arsenal, exist, is probably because of the protection given to physically frail players these days. Wonder what Messi would do, had he been subjected to the kind of abuse that the likes of Maradona had to cope with.
However, let us also, then, accept that since the laws are there, you can’t expect some team not to exploit them — and thus we have Pep’s Barcelona. It’s much the same in cricket, when in the old days, with no protection, no covered and uniform pitches (courtesy the ICC pitch committee), no front-foot no ball, and no one-bouncer-per-over rule, you had big, hulking, terrifying fast bowlers, and nimble footed short openers. And since 2000, after all the changes mentioned above, all you have is a rapid demise of fast bowling, and the emergence of the behemoth Neanderthals who advance halfway down the pitch, with a mace in hand, and swat any ball, cross-batted, over the boundary with brutish force. With no threat whatsoever of being injured from wickedly rising deliveries delivered at 145 Kmph by 6 1/2 ft bowlers, is it surprising that most of the batters who have had phenomenal success since 2000 (and not much before, even if they were playing then) — I’m thinking of the likes of Hayden, Kallis, Gayle, Watson, etc, are all lumbering gorrillas more suited for the boxing ring.
Back to the main discussion. In so far as play-acting is concerned, I believe no team is above that. Heck, no team with RvP should ever have any reason to complain on that count. In fact, in my opinion, and I am a professed Barca fan, though neither British, nor Spanish — Barca actually do it far less. Yes, Alves, of the lot, is more prone to theatricality, but then you have a Messi who gets tripped, doesn’t bother, gets up and shrugs and moves on! In fact, given the propensity of all teams and players to engage in a bit of acting, I feel that the only reason why Barca were not awarded the penalties in the two legs was because they didn’t act enough to press their claim! That’s the level of theatricality in the game today, imho, because of which even referees are more comfortable dealing with having to judge in a split second whether a tumble was simply exaggerated but provoked, or was it totally unprovoked — rather than the straight forward honesty that Messi displayed!
And, oh, last of all, any English claims of a moral high ground wrt playacting, I find doubly laughable. Having followed the global game quite closely and consistently for the last 25 years, I can come up with enough instances of dishonourable behaviour (read playacting to get a favourable decision) by English players down the ages to support my claim that they are amongst the worst, if for no other reason than the holier-than-thou attitude of their press, supporters and even players!
Dear ZM, thanks for this fantastic report! What is your opinion about Wenger playing both the not perfectly fit van Persie and Fabregas? I personally was surprised, because that also meant risking them for the upcoming PL matches. I guess I would have instead fielded Bendtner upfront, Nasri centrally, and Arshavin on the left, and kept vP and Cesc as subs…
Any confirmation on the possession stats? Heard from 66%-76%. Also, any idea how this compares to the last time Chelsea and United played there (both 0-0s)?
From my perspective, I thought we did a very good job in the first half, and long-term it was good to see us be fairly disciplined defensively as a unit. Just a shame it was undone by a bit of stupidity.
Once it went to 11vs10, they predictably picked us off at will. Going forward we really missed some genuine pace, and Arshavin should have started ahead of Rosicky, who did nothing good either defensively or in attacking sense all night.
6-3 last year, 4-3 this year. Next year we’ll muller them. Probably.
I’m not sure but isn’t the pitch at Camp Nou very wide? I have a feeling it’s much wider than for example at Bernabeu, Allianz arena, Old Trafford… It’s probably more difficult to defend well or to press well all that space.
All international pitches are within 10 yards of each other in terms of width. I don’t think its a big deal.
Oh and a basic wikipedia search would show the stadium dimensions and show that Old Trafford is wider than Camp Nou.
I am a big fan of this site because the focus of this site towards tactics in football but I am sorry to say this match analysis is very poorly written. The drift towards statics of passing, shooting in the game has ruined the analysis. I even feel zonalmarking is falling in to the trap of the moral victory crowd who says the team that have most number of passes and most possession should be declared winners irrespective whatever the Goal tally is. Football is an objective game or a GOAL game; it is not figure skating where there is style points
. What if Arsenal didn’t managed any shots on target actually they don’t have to they just have to keep Barcelona from not scoring since they already in a one goal advantage from first leg. I was felt pretty confident when arsenal scored this will be Barcelona’s last game in this year’s champion’s league until the referee ‘the fool’ showed up. If you still sticking with your argument shooting statics “will you say same about Barcelona when they didn’t manage to register a single shot on target until the last minute Iniesta strike against Chelsea??”. I think Arsenal lost only because of sending off and their in ability to defend well like inter did last year when one man down, nothing more nothing less. In football GOALS are the only think matters rest is sorry excuses that people come up with. Showing statics to cover the poor judgement referee have made doest explain the Barcelona win (thousands of games I have seen first time I am witnessing someone get sent off this way). And thinks like “Arsenal ball chasing” if there was not a sending off they won’t be chasing anything
I agree and this from a Utd fan, the sending off turned the game on its head. The Arsenal goal looked like it was about to create a momentum shift. So what if they had obscene possession, the few teams that have had matched up with Barca deployed atatcking teams which played with a defensive mindset. The indication that Arsenal deserved to loose because they managed no shots on goal is a poor reasoning to otherwise cover up that this God’s own team is not as strong as they look to be. Also why are we ignoring Abidal’s blatant Gattuso moment? Run of play incidents have a 50% chance of going either way but both these decisions were not and were really poor and have been typical of european english games? why was flamini and gattuso still on the pitch in milan?
That aside
Never before in the history of CL stats (eight years) has any team – not even the parkiest of the bus parkers (hi, Chelsea in ‘09! Hi, Inter last year!) – ever played 90 minutes without managing a single shot, on or off target. As Xavi said after the match: “I expected a lot more from Arsenal. I mean, come on, we even scored their goal for them.”
No, stats aren’t everything, and because of the edge-of-seatness of the away-goals rule, for as long as Barcelona were only one goal up they were by definition vulnerable, but it took Barcelona 20 shots to achieve just two open-play goals. And you expect Arsenal to score one in half an hour having made zero attempts in the previous two thirds of the match with eleven men? Really?
Arsenal lost because they barely had the ball, and when they did they couldn’t string more than three passes together (supposedly what they’re best at). You don’t need a stats ap for that – just eyes.
If you want perfect reffing, you have to at least be consistent. In a perfectly reffed world it would almost certainly have been 2-0 at half time, and even with eleven men and another goal from Van Persie or Bendtner in the second half, 4-2 at the end. As some sage once said, “In football GOALS are the only thin[g that] matters [; the] rest is sorry excuses that people come up with.” Sound familiar?
If Wenger really, really does think that had it not been for the sending off “we would definitely have won” (yep, that’s what he said), and if he really, really does think that a referee applying a UEFA guideline that’s been in effect since 1996 is “embarrassing”, then Arsenal have got a very serious problem indeed: not only are they just not good enough, they don’t even know that they’re just not good enough.
(Apologies to ZM for the second paragraph, because I know he tries to keep this site free of ref-related rucks, but the now-standard buck-passing we-wuz-robbed response whenever a losing team is outplayed, outshot, outpressed, outpassed and outclassed is doing nobody any favours – least of all the future of English football.)
Inter recorded 1 shot last year, 1 more than Arsenal it is true. This is defining “shot” very broadly as it was a boot from almost the halfway line. So I think your first comment is highly disingenuous here Archie-V.
And who is to say Wenger’s game plan wasn’t to defend for 70 minutes and then hit them with fresh legs from Arshavin and Bendtner (while keeping on Nasri and RvP) in the last 20?
I’m pretty sure the red card destroyed whatever game plan Wenger may have had. Their defensive statistics before and after the red card bear this out. I don’t think the red card was wrong, just extremely harsh, but the man has a valid point.
There are tons of forums/blogs/Arsenal fan pages that are comfortable discussing the game from the perspective of which you desire. Go there.
*cough* deal with it *cough*
*cough* wish for Martin Atkinson next time *cough*
I guess we all agree that the referee was generally bad yesterday. Not only the ultra-strict second yellow for vPersie, but also the not-given penalty for Messi in the first half, and the second yellow for Koscielny. I’d say injustice more or less was equally distributed towards either team. (Bottom line: this ref should not lead further CL matches imo).
Aside from that, Barca were so incredibly superior to Arsenal (also considering both legs) that it sounds ridiculous to say they did not deserve to go through. What would vPersie have contributed had he stayed on the pitch? He entered the match half-injured (brilliant choice, AW) and was totally exhausted; Wenger should have subbed him earlier…
You cannot compare this match to the Chelsea semifinal some years ago. Back then Chelsea was leading, being somewhat superior, and having tons of chances on the break, most of them ruled out by the ref as not-awarded penalties.
A team as patently good as Barcelona, at least aesthetically, gives us a chance to pause and consider other aspects of football against this ideal. There is a tendency, when a team plays the beautiful game, to hold them to a higher standard with regards to other facets of the game. So, I will.
After the first leg at the Emirates the majority of the post-match commentary and paper talk decided that Barcelona were the better side. Xavi et al commented that they were ‘far superior’. These comments betray them and what they consider to be superior football. If memory serves Arsenal, not Barcelona, had more shots on target in the first leg. So, by that statistic, we can dismiss that as a criterion for which Barcelona decide who are the superior team.
For Xavi, and Barca, shots on target do not denote the superior side, heck, even the scoreline does not suggest to them who were the better side seeing as they lost at the Emirates. No, their yardstick is passes.
Guardiola simultaneously demonstrated his arrogance and fallibility with his post match comment that, ‘Arsenal didn’t put 3 passes together.’ To forward that argument after every game is to denigrate every other aspect of the beautiful game. If passing were the measure then we wouldn’t need goalposts; and to be so wedded to that philosophy is no different to the style adopted by Jack Charlton: dogmatic adherence to one way of playing, albeit at the other end of the scale ‘passes completed’.
There is no right or wrong way to play the game, only subjective analysis of which style is prettiest. The familiar lament of, ‘we were the better side…’, could have emanated from the Emirates after a turgid draw with Wolves, so familiar are we with this narrative.
As much as there is to admire about Barcelona I find their strict adherence to the ‘rondo’ passing dogma to be somewhat cowardly; let me explain. There is always a risk in playing out from the back, which Barca do, but this is where the risk stops. Once the transistion from defence to midfield has taken place then it is risk free football from there on in. No risky options; no real crosses; only making their move once they feel they have created a position which is overwhelmingly in their favour.
Now you’re saying: what in the hell is wrong with that? And you’d be right, up to a point. As nice as it is to watch it’s a bit Katherine Jenkins: beautiful but boring. Not risking the opposition having the ball because, as Pep puts it, ‘we’re a terrible team without the ball’, is, of course, a blatant lie. Barca are the best team with and without the ball. Where are the 25 yard screamers? Where are the bullet headers from a delightful cross? I tell you where: abandoned at La Masia for not conforming to the risk/reward ‘rondo’ dogma that Barcelona embody.
This is not a hanging offence – the footballing crime of the century, no. They are the studied example of possession football; but the embodiment of football they are not. Now if they decided to trade maybe, 10% say, of their possession to exploring the far off lands of shots outside the penalty area, headed goals from whipped crosses, staying on your feet, beautiful long passes on the counterattack for the striker hanging off the last defenders shoulder – then, and only, can theirs be considered to encapsulate the true nature of the game.
10%, it’s not a lot to ask is it? Until that time, Josep Guardiola and Jack Charlton; two peas in a pod.
I’ll be the first one to say I find Barcelona’s and Spain’s tiki taka boring.
But abandoning some of their passing game to accommodate more hail mary long shots and crosses in the box?
That would be suicide. Age and time alone are enough to induce entropy. There’s no need to accelerate that process by willfully incorporating inefficient tactics to please other teams’ fans. I think they should change their game when they are being caught out with their current game and I haven’t seen many who seem able to counter it.
As for the hollywood moments in football which you advocate, I’m a Man Utd fan and I’ve seen some moments of individual brilliance from the players this season (Rooney vs City, Berba vs Pool) but they do not replicate this in every match. I’d rather see good consistent football rather than the shambolic backpass team which United is degenerating into.
I totally agree with that. As a neutral, I was far more excited to watch Rijkaard’s team (04-06) than Guardiola’s futsal team. Ronaldinho provided us all that you miss: The feints, quick counters, power, beautiful long balls, screamers, headers.
Current Barça are probably the best football team ever, but surely not the best to watch.
By British standards Arsenal are a good side and by these standards they play good,intelligent,skillful football.But they nowhere near measure up to the standards set by Barcelona.Wenger must realise this and Mourinho’s tactics at the Nou Camp last season is the only way to take them on to stand a realistic chance of preserving a first leg lead.If Wenger was a really good coach then he would have Arsenal schooled in dropping off the opposition and defending in mass in their own half to the edge of the penalty area.They had absolutely no chance of taking Barca on at their own pressing game and although Arsenal in the Premier League show signs at times that they are working on this type of approach in the Champions League they are light years behind Barca.With the quality of players at his disposal I believe that Wenger has no excuse for rarely showing he has alternative options to his trade-mark approach and he has only rarely made use of the alternative ariel threat of Chamakh or Bendtner though I hasten to add that I am not advocating this for a match at the Nou Camp.
With all due respect, that’s exactly what Arsenal did. They defended fairly deep, very narrow, and tried to cut out the space between the midfield and defence. You’d have to say they did it pretty successfully in the first half, but as ever, a stupid mistake cost them.
They did not really defend deep, no comparison to Mou’s Inter last year. They actually tried to defend as high as possible (defense line between box and middle-line), but of course were during the Barca attacks gradually pushed backwards. Like any other team. Inter last year started and stayed around their box for 90 minutes basically, they did not even care to move up after a clearance. For example, passes past the defence into the sideline runs of Alves (as we saw plenty of yesterday) did not happen against Inter, as they had their midfielders and striker around the height which had Arsenal’s defence yesterday. THAT is defending deep.
While I generally thoroughly dislike the man, Tommy Smith made a decent enough point on SoccernetPressPass: At the time of RvP’s sending off, Arsenal had a goal advantage and Barcelona were heading out of the Champions league. It took Barcelona 46 minutes to score in the first half and at 30 minutes to go after the sending off, who’s to say they were certainly going to score again.
It’s been mentioned before that Arsenal’s best periods of both games were in the last 15 minutes. First leg they scored two goals, second leg Bendtner had a decent enough chance of bowling Barca out despite Arsenal being a man down.
There’s a lot of people pointing to the fact that Arsenal had zero shots on goal while Barcelona had 19. As an Arsenal fan who has seen the team loose and draw to the likes Newcastle UTD and Leyton Orient despite having absolute dominance in the possesion and shots on goal department numerous times, I know full well that those two stats count for jack.
Yes Mr. “Tommy with a Y” makes a good point. There’s also the fact that in the 56 minutes before the sending off, Barca had 8 shots but in the 34 minutes after, they had 11. On top of which ALL Barca’s second half shots came after the red card.
Actually, Villa, Messi and Alves all had shots on goal in the first 11 minutes of the second half. Two of which were on target saves by Almunia.
I think people forget that the rules of the Champions League combined with the two-legged nature of the tie means that managers can end up in a no-win situation in such situations. Arsenal had performed very well in the first leg and managed to come away with a lead but were essentially up against it when their task is to beat a better side over 2-legs, the odds were naturally stacked against Arsenal.
There were big decisions for and against both sides in either leg so whilst the ref’s decision last night had an impact I don’t think it’s the be-all and end-all.
Arsenal did well for long parts of the game last and whilst I’m a Barca fan, I think the focus on their 0 shots on goal statistic is a little ignorant of what they had to achieve – nil-nil would have seen them go through. Yes, Wenger could have gone on the front foot but for 50-60 minutes his game plan had worked fairly well. It was only when Arsenal went down to 10 men that Barca started carving Arsenal open on a regular basis.
Barca, as mentioned on this site in the past, can struggle when teams hold a decent narrow shape as stop the likes of Messi and Iniesta playing through them – Wenger knew this.
Barca a better man-for-man and so it the odds were highly stacked in their favour so Wenger the tactician has done pretty well to win one of the two games and be within one goal of going through.
Thank christ, some sanity amongst the comments (and article) on this site…
People tend to lambast Wenger for sticking to his philosophy irrespective of the opponent, yet in this game his team played in a style which completely contradicted that philosophy and was one goal (and a poor Bendtner first touch) away from progressing through to the quarter finals at the expense of Barcelona. While with 11 men they defended well, and you would be hard pressed to find any clear cut chances that Barca had apart from the goal. After the sending off they pretty much fell apart untill the final 15 minutes (where they still weren’t all that much better).
Good win for Barca though. This team is amazing I feel lucky to be able to watch them play so often.
I don’t think I have to press too hard to remember Messi, a couple minutes before the goal, cutting inside and taking a 15-yard left-footed shot that he scores 97% of the time (and hitting it right at Almunia).
That’s the clearest of the bunch, probably, but there was also Villa through on goal immediately after the own goal, Villa through on goal (under pressure) in the first half and hitting a very weak left-footed shot, and a Pedro floated effort from the top of the box.
Messi’s goal at Emirates was wrongly disallowed. Then there was a penalty foul on Messi in the rist half, Van Persies attack on Alves — should have been straight red. No second yellow for Koscielny after the penalty foul? Sorry, but all that “I didn’t hear the whistle while everyone else did” whining is really disgusting when you lose 19:0 on shots, 69:31 on possesion etc. Wenegr has no class at all, how can he say that “Football lost.” or “Congratulations to the referee.” ?
Messi’s goal WAS offside. Pedro’s initial shot wasn’t. That’s where the confusion comes in. The penalty foul I don’t recall so I will give that the benefit of the doubt. van Persie on Alves may have been a straight red (depends on the referee’s judgement of his intent) but what about Abidal grabbing him by the throat moments before. That is violent conduct, a straight red card and a 3 match ban. It was also Criminal Assault if you want to be pedantic about it. Arsenal’s defending was excellent (and all they really needed to progress) before the red card. Afterwards they really couldn’t keep up the defending. 11 shots in the first half. 0 shots in the second half before the red, 8 after. You’re dead wrong there La Masia.
mmm… the referring ? let’s see:
game 1 1)a messi goal anuled for an offside, that wasn’t even close; 2) no penalty called when pedro was hauled down in the box
game 2 — no penalty called when messi was stomped on in the box
So we have an aggregate score of 5-3 BEFORE van persie is unfairly expelled. Do you really think arsenal would have scored two goals at the camp nou in the last 35 minutes even with 11 men ?
but wait, there’s more ….
In the first leg messi missed two very easy chances. Final score after the first leg could (should) very easily have been 5-2 . With this score, do you really think arsenal would have had a chance in the second leg ?
but wait, there’s more ….
Two of the three arsenal goals were from extremely rare defensive mistakes (van persie’s goal in the first leg and busquets own goal yesterday).
Barcelona in both the first and second legs missed many easy opportunities (to those of us who watch all of their games, this has unfortunately been a regular feature as of late).
To those who watched both matches: do you really think arsenal played better over the two legs, and deserved to advance ? With a fair referee and barcelona playing decently (ie finishing easy opportunities) the aggregate should have been 10-3, at least.
Game 1, Messi goal was correctly disallowed. Pedro’s initial shot was onside, but the deflection to messi (who was offside) makes it a second phase of play.
So let’s say 4-3
van Persie missed several easy chances in the first leg as well. Arsenal in fact out shot Barca in London.
Messi’s goals yesterday were both from defensive mistakes (Cesc backheel and Koscielny foul).
Call it fairly man.
> Messi’s goals yesterday were both from defensive mistakes (Cesc backheel and Koscielny foul)
even though messi’s first goal started with fabregas’ backheel, the goal itself was one of the most beautiful, and difficult to pull off, goals you will ever see (iniesta’s dribbling and pass to set up messi were spectacular as well)
the koscielny foul wasn’t a ‘mistake’ — it was all he could do to try and prevent a goal
Without Fabregas backpass, that ball never gets to Iniesta. I admit Messi performed with outstanding skill but it doesn’t mean that they would have done it without the mistake. Another few seconds it would have been half time, and Barca didn’t get another shot on or off target until the red card.
Koscielny or the other player who was facing him (Clichy?) could have kicked the ball. That makes it a mistake.
Van Persie’s goal was an excellently taken shot from a very tight angle which took advantage of Valdes coming too far off his line. It was also from an excellent ball over the top from Clichy. Also born of a mistake but goals come off mistakes all the time. It is bread and butter for strikers. Besides, winning set plays in Barca’s defensive third is statistically the best way to score against them, as they are the shortest top flight team in Europe. I think almost 2/3 of the goals they concede are off set plays. So it’s a valid strategy.
Messi was onside all the time. Jesus christ, it was all said in the comments to that game. Here is the PNG (http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/2896/messin.png), because the video is already unavailable (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vl3jgy0fKrI)…
I think despite the red-card, individual mistakes, etc. it was a simple case of Arsenal losing both the tie as well as their moral high ground. IMO the match was little different from the usual Stoke Vs Arsenal – just that Barca were much better and Arsenal weren’t even doing a proper Stoke.
Long balls to strikers, being overly physical, commit fouls at will, etc. – it would be hypocritical of AW to accuse Stoke City of such primitive tactics now.
No no, still far morally superior to Stoke, don’t worry about that. The intention from Arsenal was still to pass and keep the ball (see barca’s 1st goal as evidence), they just weren’t good enough to accomplish it. Any long balls were out of sheer desperation and panic, not part of a deliberate plan, and there were lots of fouls simply because barcelona are so good at keeping the ball and drawing those fouls. there were no dangerous tackles, no-one being overly physical, no free-kicks lumped in the vague direction of radioactive centre-halves, and no long throw ins.
“Arsenal weren’t even doing a proper Stoke” because they wouldn’t wish to, and that’s what makes them morally better than Stoke.
Terrific that we were within one clear chance (Bendtner miss) of knocking out the greatest team ever to have played football, despite our captain and vice-captain being only half-fit, Walcott, Song and Vermaelen injured, and down to ten men thanks to, unarguably, one of the worst refereeing decisions ever made. Certainly, Arsenal would have been lucky to go through – clearly Barcelona are the much better side – but the fact they came so close AND did so while trying to stay true to their natural game, should make any Arsenal supporter very proud of their team.
Morally superior…!!! Seriously ?
In my opinion, this game came down primarily to Arsenal’s glaring lack of depth.
I can’t really fault Wenger’s choice of tactics here, because the problem was that he simply had NO options with his key players injured to do anything else. Why did he have to play Fabregas and van Persie when they were clearly not 100%? Because…
1) Neither Bendtner nor Chamakh are proving to be dangerous finishers (except against Championship sides in the FA Cup!), and he has no viable backup option at CF. (In the Sunderland game it occurred over and over that balls would be crossed to the near or far post and no one was there with the killer instinct to finish. The commentator on the US feed commented on this often…) Do we all agree that had it been a healthy van Persie (or dare say a Thierry Henry) on the end of that breakaway chance rather than Bendtner that the outcome would have been different?
2) Beyond the Fabregas/Wilshire/Song trio, he is limited in his options in central midfield. Tonight’s game showed how well Song fills the role in the center to win balls, protect the back line and bring the ball forward. His absence here and presence in the first leg was a HUGE difference. Diaby was not able to play that role at all either here or in the Sunderland game (and as someone else argued its not really his position anyway).
3) Without Walcott he did not have the threat of pace on the wing to expose the depleted Barca defense. And without Walcott, it forces him to play Nasri on the wing to get some pace out there, when Nasri might have perhaps been used in the middle in place of a hobbled Fabregas.
So with no Walcott and Song and with Fabregas and van Persie at way less than 100%, there is no one who can come in and fill those roles when needed. And so Barca could patiently play their game with very little to fear from Arsenal.
The one big tactical mistake to me was the ease with which Arsenal CHOSE to turn possession back over to Barcelona by simply booting it downfield when they did have it. Barca did not have to work very hard pressing to get the ball back, because Arsenal just gave it right back. Again, not having a player of Song’s versatility who can both win the ball and start the attack was a huge handicap in midfield.
If Arsenal is going to compete with Barcelona playing the kind of football that Wenger wants to play (and that many would like to see), IMO he deperately needs to make some smart moves in the summer transfer period to give him the depth to last through a long season. I don’t see building the kind of team he wants with Bendtner, Chamakh, Diaby, Rosicky, Denilson et al as his bench options.
As an Arsenal fan, the Arsenal central midfield was painful to watch. Fabregas was clearly unfit and was invisible for the entire game. Diaby tried to play his way out of trouble but ending up leaving massive gaps in the midfield. Wilshere was valiant but one man (boy?) can only do so much on his own. As a unit, they didn’t work to shield their defence, forcing Koscielny and Djourou into an absurd number of last-ditch tackles.
It was clear to me that Wenger set out to play for a draw. The least they could do was adjust their style of play to suit that. Fancy backheels do not exactly epitomise the functional approach that was the gameplan.
It was a shame because the defenders were playing their hearts out. Koscielny and Djourou probably did the best they could, Almunia played one of his best games for the club, Sagna and Clichy worked very hard.
There really needs to be more depth in the ‘holding role’, even if Arsenal supposedly isn’t using one anymore. Can’t help but recall that season where we had Flamini, Diarra and Gilberto fighting for a central midfield berth. What I’d have given to have them shut out Barca yesterday. *sigh*
A supposedly good game spoiled by the referee, the captain and Wenger himself. Why on earth did he start with Unfit players ? Bendtner should have started. He is fairly good in the air and would have given the option to the goalkeeper trying long balls into the deep instead of building from the back and running into the barca midfield.
As I wrote in last match, Fabregas shouldnt have started. He was a liability in the first leg and was like a passenger yesterday. Absolutely took no part in any part of the game, and when he finally did, it was a gift to his dream-team counterparts on a plate. What the hell was he thinking to backheel near the box ? Perhaps, the coaching has to take a blame here as well. Similar problems are faced by Bayern too this season and Lahm has openly commented about it too. People like Wenger and LVG who think every game like a James Bond movie to be played with an eye-pleasing style ignore defending completely (LVG has been sacked rightly by Bayern). A well balanced team never would attempt such horrific passes near their own goal. ZM’s comment that it has to do with Barca pressing is not convincing.
Still, credit to Arsenal for the first half. But for their captain’s misereable pass, they would have had 0-0 at half time, made some substitutions and started positively. it was very surprising that they defended very compact and efficiently till that time. Absence of Song and Walcott really hurt them in the second half, which i guess is where they would have had plans of counter-attack.
The referee spoiled the game, gave the wrong person the red card, then compensated by allowing the CB to stay. Still, Busquets scored for them and Barca was still losing. Atleast at that point, Arsenal should have reorganized, knowing fully that they need not score anymore, just to keep Barca at bay. But with such inexperience, they totally lost focus and did not have any idea of what they were doing. Except Wilshere, others were disjointed and were chasing shadows. Credit to this guy, my MOM over both the legs.
Busquets’ goal and the 1st leg showed clearly where Barca is vulnerable: set pieces, fast counter attacks and wide plays. Arsenal did not try to exploit any of these and fielding 2 unfit players early on really made them 9 men against 11 from the beginning. Bendtner still had a chance to win it for them, but couldnt. Thats the price you pay for not playing your reserve players more often.
I’d like to see barca try to play like that on a cold and rainy Tuesday night at Stoke!!!
No, a Chelsea-Barcelona game with Martin Atkinson in charge would be a Chelsea fan’s wet dream.
I’m fed up with people always quoting this same old comment, yes they bloody would beat Stoke!
Stoke have beaten Arsenal once I believe in the PL, and once against a weakened side in the FA Cup, Arsenal normally get the better of them, last year there was one of these ‘cold, wet nights’ and Arsenal PLAYED FOOTBALL and beat Stoke 3-1 at the Britania. Barcelona are alot better than Arsenal, and Arsenal can beat Stoke…
How would poor footballers like Wilkinson, Pugh, Whitehead, Delap deal with the skill, movement and technical ability of the likes of Xavi/Iniesta? Villa would run the Stoke defence ragged with his movement, Stoke players would try and kick Messi, but quite simply, he’d just be too good for them. Who would Stoke possibly put on Messi that would actually contain him? It’s easy to say Stoke would kick him off the park, but the players Stoke would try and put to ‘kick him off the park’ aren’t good enough to even get close to him…
Barcelona aren’t afraid to mix it up. Pique/Abidal are very good in the air, Puyol adds some steel and strength, Alves is a tough competitor and he is absolutely relentless, Busquets put’s himself about.
Barcelona would easily beat Stoke.
With or without the referees help?
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The comment isn’t meant to be serious. It was a comment made by a pundit (I think Jamie Redknapp?) which is now repeated to take the mick of him, as they would obviously beat Stoke on a rainy night.
Might have been Andy Gray who said it actually.
Stoke who? Never heard of them in Europe ..,
Are they a rugby team? Some people have very strange wet dreams…
I’m sure some of this has already been mentioned, but haven’t read all the comments.
Arsenal were always chasing the impossible in my opinion, I just couldn’t see them doing an ‘Inter’ and they weren’t going to go out there and out score Barcelona. Having said that, I thought Arsenal did very well at doing some kind of ‘Inter’ in the first half. They kept the shape very well, they were disciplined, and they stopped Barcelona playing between the lines by keeping the midfield and defence close together.
However… You can look at all kinds of things as to why Arsenal lost, the most talked about, and understandably is the RVP sending off, but the RVP incident has meant Fabregas’ absolutely suicidal error has been overlooked somewhat. Arsenal hadn’t had the ball for basically the entire first half, that was to be expected, without the ball was arguably more important for Arsenal, and I thought they had it spot on for the most part, only for Fabregas to blow it! Hindsight is a wonderful thing, we’ll never know if Arsenal could have done that job on Barcelona in the 2nd half also…
All credit to Barcelona though, they really are something else. The pressing off the ball is fantastic, the movement off the ball is briliant, the keep ball is brilliant, the work in tight spaces is brilliant, how can you beat them? I actually think the team best equipped to beat Barcelona is United, if only there was a fit Owen Hargreaves to call upon, I’d like to see how a Hargreaves, Fletcher, Anderson trio would deal with the Barcelona.
They are not unbeatable outside Nou Camp. Teams have shown it this year. Arsenal should have started with fully fit players especially with Abidal and Busquets as centerbacks..
only teams that beat barca this year when barca was away from home
1. arsenal (well, they won the last 15 minutes anyway)
2. real betis (2nd leg in the Copa del Rey after Barca smashed em 5-0 in the 1st leg)
barca fan here. hated to see RVP sent off. arsenal was clearly the best team in this tie. justice would have seen them through to the next round.
forgive the sarcasm. bye.
Chelsea are by far the best equipped team to beat Barca and always have been. Barca rarely come up against teams which are equipped with pace and power to hit them quickly on the counter. Sadly with Ancelotti as manager I cant see it happenening.
they are not as equipped as they used to be…it’s the same with manchester united too
with ronaldo gone and scholes and ferdinand on the decrease
chelsea were a team of another level with ballack, deco and drogba & essien at 100%
i’d put bayern, inter, madrid and united in front of them right now
they don’t have a proper system right now, their 442 is not the solid machine the 433 is and we’re not even sure they would play torres and drogba against barcelona
i still think they can win this cup thought, because they have time to progress and with the aging leaders, 6 points behind in the league and the final in london, this could be the year
they’re more of an outsider then a true favorite this year, maybe they(ll do better like that
@Franklyn
Yeah i obviously i know when some one gets send of their team is a man down. Im just saying that arsenal could have been more organised in the way they approached the game. After Xavi scored it looked like they had no legitimate game plan.
“Have a think about it. They won the first leg 3-1. If they were just going to defend all game then why even play Eto’o and Milito? Motta got sent off and Mourinho had to change things. What the original game-plan was, who knows but the team selection would suggest they had more ambition than you seem to think.”
Im not talking about the first leg why would i be talking about the first leg. That wouldnt be an accurate comparison. Im talking about the second leg of the tie. If you think any team especially inter milan is able to play football ( i mean attacking football) at the nou camp without getting murdered by barca than you’ve been living under a rock. At home intermilan had a chance. One because of home field advantage which gives any team a big psychological advantage and 2 because the pitch at the san siro is smaller than the one at the nou camp. There is less space for barca. (the pitch looks smaller on tv i dnt knw the exact pitch dimensions, but ill assume the camp nou is larger) and i believe mourhino said somewhere that he had no intention of attacking barcalona because he feared their transitions. (the moment when a team loses the ball and their team is caught in between attack and defense. It is also the period where the opposition have the ball and has the most space to operate in. Just gave you that explanation just in-case you didnt understand what it meant.
Also if intermilan lost the ball there would be far less space for barca to exploit in the san siro opposed to if they lost the ball at the nou camp. This was probably one of the reasons why mourhino attacked in the san siro. Lastly on that subject mourhino definetly knew that he had to attack at one stage in the tie. The safest stage to do so would be at the san siro. Overall it was good risk management by mourhino and they won.
And yeah your a moron learn how to read between the lines. The main point im getting at isnt the fact that Arsenal 2 and Inter Milan conceded one. The point is even after going down to 10 down mourhino had a clear plan. After Arsenal went down to 10 men and xavi scored it all went down hill.
I didnt want to get nasty but you started it unnecessarily. If any thing you could of made your point in a more intelligent and non-confrontational manner
San Siro : 105m x 68m
Camp Nou: 105 × 68 m
And you said you have a football blog ? I’ll come by if I need virtual kindling for my bonfire. Sheesh !
well i said i wasnt sure of the exact measurments. and Frankylin it was nice that you took the time to look that up. Im surprised you didnt argue any of the major points from that post. Instead you choose the smallest easiest one to argue. I dont know if that makes a bigger statement of my blog or you. The final word on this topic, dont knock it unless you try it. If you choose to judge me by the quality of my blog thats fine, but if you choose to judge my blog of a post that i spent 3 minutes max writing than i think thats a bit pathetic. Also im going to assume that blog is pretty good considering the majority of responses towards it have been positive. Yeah that’s my final word on the subject.
I can see why you thought ‘Ough !’ was me but I guess there are (at least) two people that think you sulley this excellent web page with your relentless gas bagging and plugging for a blog nobody has even the slightest interest in. If it were any good it would be in the ‘links’ section along with many others. It’s not, so stop trying to associate it with this site in such a crude way.
My point was Inter were clearly dominant in the first leg, if you saw the game you would know this. So the idea they should go to Camp Nou like lambs to the slaughter is nonsense. Real Madrid were unlucky to lose 1-0 there that season having outplayed Barca in the first half. If your memory only goes back to the 5-0 v Real Madrid then you do not see the full picture. The defining moment in that game was the sending off of Motta. People seem to talk about that game as if it was 11 v 11 and the only way to stop Barca was to defend for all their worth.
Mourinho’s quote about not wanting the ball because they lost their shape and were open to quick transitions was made after the game so it in no way can be used to illustrate a game plan.
No, I’m pretty sure you wrote “one player doesn’t matter if there is no gameplan” and “after Xavi scored they just lost their way, it was horrible”. In fact, you made no reference to the sending off at all. That’s a pretty big omission for a football journalist like yourself. That’s why I thought maybe you were unfamiliar with the rules. To say now “after Arsenal went down to 10 men and xavi scored it all went down hill” is non-sense. Had it not gone downhill before Xavi scored? Were they doing pretty well between Van Persie’s dismissal and Xavi scoring? Really?
Lastly, no, I didn’t read your blog because I don’t have a blog but I still put time and thought into what I’ve written here. Even the previous guy took the time to google the dimensions of the San Siro and Camp Nou which you didn’t despite making it the centrepiece of your argument. I’m not going to give it a charity read. If you make a poor point, riddled with inaccuracies and spelling errors then people are going to pass on the ‘expanded version’.
On the whole game plan issue: I’d agree with you, last year Mourinho had a very clear game plan:
As long as Inter were 11 players it was: Defend deep, and try to snatch a goal on a counter attack.
(Inter was ahead 3:1). When they went down to 10 players (unjustified or not), Mou still had a very clear game plan. Which was still the same as before.
The point I want to make is, it was not very difficult for Mou to decide what to do. Just keep defending deep. You complain that Arsenal was lost planwise after the 2:1 by Xavi. I agree. But I guarantee you, Inter would have been similarly lost had Barca managed the 2:0, even early in the game. Same story. They would have had to attack with 10 players, suicide.
Bottom line: There was only one plan for Arsenal, but there also was only one plan for Inter. For Inter it worked, that’s all.
Which leads me to my final comment: Mou’s single plan (defend deep, pray for a break) was much better than Arsene’s single plan (defend high, pray for a break. And play half-injured players).
PS: Don’t fight, guys. Football is fun
Surprised to learn that the San Siro is that big, really! Thanks for the research, cheers.
Inter had the players to hurt Barca though if they had to go at them. Who have Arsenal got? False 9 in my opinion also does not work against Barca. You need a Target man.
WRT tactical innovation, what all of you missed was how, quite unlike the normal, Barca, repeatedly tried to lob the ball behind the Gunners’ defense line instead of pass and dribble through it. Keeping in mind that Arsenal were likely to use the Mourinho strategy of parking the bus, and the fact that neither does Barca have great crossers who can stretch the defense while executing great crosses, nor does he have the tall centre forward to knock them in — Pep decided to beat the crowded and resilient Arsenal defense line through the middle, but instead of passing/dribbling, by lobbing behind the massed defenders. It did spread panic, and on another day, with better finishing from Messi & Co, would have fetched quite a few goals! Both Villa and Messi in fact did amazing 180-degree turns through the defensive wall, but failed to pull the trigger.
I still feel that this Barca team, with the addition of Eto’o or a Drogba type striker — strong, big, with a good header — and better crossing from the wing-backs, would be truly invincible, as they would then have a genuine Plan B, and thus always dissuade the Mourinho-types to rely solely on their brand of anti-football, thus effectively giving the first choice team a more open-playing opponent to cream up!
They had that in Ibra and it didnt work remember? He kept occupying Messi’s space. Every team will always have its weakness and it is Barcas that they cannot incorperate that type of player into their system. They had Eto in 2009 and against the organised defense of Chelsea he was nowhere to be seen. As for balls over the top, This was due to Arsenal getting caught to high up the pitch. Agree about having better crossers but the trouble is where do you find them? I cant think of many top class wingers or full backs that possess a good cross. Crossing seems to be a dying art at the moment sadly.
Agreed, but then Ibra was a pig-headed choice right from the beginning. Here is a player with a big ego, penchant for playing to the gallery and disappearing altogether from big matches, petulant, childish, profligate, selfish… when you either needed to hold on to Eto’o or find a Henke Larsson/ Drogba-type.
As for Eto’o disappearing from the Chelsea game — I would put it to a one-off. The greatest of them are bound to have a few!
As for crossers, I am sure they could produce some at La Masia, if only they paid attention to that particular skill in the first place. Agreed that more often than not the dinky passing game is most often prettier than the crossing game, this I believe is still a strange blind-spot in the Barca philosophy. After all, with the very best, as in the likes of Beckham and Cafu, it could be both pretty and effective.
Agreed on your (slightly exaggerated
) Zlatan characterisation. Also nice observation about Barcelona’s lobbing! They indeed did it often, yet an alternative way of breaking Arsenal’s high line.
The thing about crosses is that, at best odds, they are about a 50/50 chance. If you were to look at the actual ROI (return on investment) for even the best crossing teams, I bet goals scored per cross is probably closer to 1 in 20 attempts (if anyone actually has some real stats on this, I’d be curious to see them). This is antithetical to the Barça possession philosophy. If there’s an opportunity to put the ball safely on a teammate’s foot, that is always going to be the choice made.
Even so, Alves sends up a fair number of crosses (most of them fruitless).
I dont understand Arsenal fans.. Well, I do, but Arsenal was only a goal away from going through. With or without RVP.. One goal! Why nobody blames Bendtner? (Or Wenger for that matter for relying on RVP alone, who is injured 50-60% of a season?)
The team is running efficently, wage cap, blah blah, blah..
2011, you need to spend some if you want to progress.
A big well done for Arsenal for whatever they’ve achieve(d), for what it’s worth!!!!!!!!
1. Arsenal doesn’t operate some shoe string budget. They have elite talent. Arsenal are the 5th richest team in the world and they lost money last year meaning they are spending money on talent. Sure this team could use another striker or winger but it’s not like RVP is the only offensive threat Arsenal has.
2. One goal? Last year Inter beat Barcelona by winning 3-1 at home then played amazing defense at Camp Nou and lost 1-0 there winning the aggregate score 3-2. Arsenal didn’t need more than a goal to win. Plus, I don’t think 1/2 of the Round of 16 teams would score at Camp Nou.
3. What do you mean he relies on RVP alone? Arsenal get scoring from RVP, Arshavin, Fabregas, Chamakh, Walcott, Nasri and Bendtner. Nasri has 14 goals but was stuck tracking Alves all night. RVP was clearly not healthy nor was Fabregas. Chamakh was on fire early on but can’t do anything right recently. Walcott is hurt and Arshavin is too lazy to play defensively, which is fine against some EPL teams but not against Barcelona. What do you mean RVP alone?
4. You look like at idiot ending a post with 7 exclamation points and having a single sentence spread over lines. I know it’s a blog and it’s not an English paper but seriously try and put 2 seconds into your post.
1. That’s what I’m talking about.. They do need a quality striker. (please, dont start with Bendtner or Chamakh..)
2. That one goal is B’s missed/messed up chance.. To be that close to Barca is a massive thing. And that’s why I think they need a striker. No back up (or indeed, 2 quality ones) striker for the world’s 5th richest club? Strange.
3. No, what I mean is, where was Arshavin (on for 20 mins), Chamakh (unused sub), Walcott (injured), Nasri (he was ok actually), Bendtner (gotta be kidding..) in this game? That is what I mean by RVP alone.. Had he not come back from “injury” then who else? I’m only on about this one game.
4. I’m not English, but still like good football, hope that’s fine?
You guys need to get over Bussaca. He made the right call on RVP. All the referees get assessed in these matches. If he doesn’t send him, he fails his assessment and doesn’t get anymore Champions League matches for the season. He probably still failed with some of the other non-decisions/decisions.
I didn’t think Bussaca’s performance was as bad as people make it out to be. Was it his finest hour? No. You don’t get to that level as a ref, by being a terrible referee.
I, personally, agreed 100% with the sending off on RVP. At no point in the game before or after did the players have trouble hearing the whistle and Bussaca never needed to blow his whistle more than once to stop play. I don’t buy the idea that RVP couldn’t hear the whistle. Also, RVP should have seen the flag go up anyways. Ball came over his shoulder on the linesman’s side, so he was looking back where the linesman was. All the Barca players stopped. He saw the flag go up and he heard the whistle. Look how casual his attempt was. I bet you if the flag stayed down he settles him self and attempts to shoot with his left.
Also, if he really didn’t hear the whistle and thought he was playing, why would a, predominantly left footed, player take such a quick shot with his right with so much room around him? If you watch RVP he has used the “didn’t hear the whistle” excuse alot in his career. He did at the World Cup, where he might have had an argument, actually, and he does it occasionally in the Premier League.
It is a harsh sending off in the context of a game like that. Remember, no referee makes a decision in a vacuum. It’s impossible. These guys are human and have emotions and feel pressure from the crowd and from the players. Bussaca was probably thinking about the red he let go against Alves and the rake that RVP did on Messi’s Achilles (if he saw that). So he was, probably, thinking I need to get this guy off. Also, Van Persie probably got on his nerves through out the match with some petulant behavior.
I don’t really have an explanation for that no foul/pk on Messi in the first half. He was right there on top of the incident. If anything he might have been too close and got tunnel vision. My take is he saw the foul, but didn’t want to give a penalty, but he was going to give them at least a free kick on the edge. He, probably, realized that he wouldn’t be able to get away with giving the free kick.
When a game isn’t on TV, as a ref, you will do some things that you normally wouldn’t do if a game was on TV. You might give a throw in the wrong way on purpose in order to not give a free kick near there. Or you might give a team a corner they shouldn’t get, in order to not give a soft penalty or to make up a for a missed penalty right there. You do things like that to appease a team that has been on you, so they don’t think the world is against them. Refereeing is all about give and take with the players. Sometimes you have to give them a free kick or give the other team a soft card in order to appease them. It’s not necessarily right, but you have to do those things to control a game.
So Bussaca, probably, realized that he couldn’t get away with just giving Barca a free kick because the images around the world would be that there was no that it was a free kick on the edge of the box, so he just played on. If that was in a lower profile game, no doubt in my mind he blows for a free kick on the edge of the box.
Or he just didn’t see or think there was a foul. I don’t really know what was going through his head at that moment. That, above, was pure speculation on my part. Those are some of the things that go through my head when I referee a game.
Any referee can get one big decision wrong in any match, but, overall, Bussaca’s performance was fine for me. He let the game flow, and he didn’t give Barca too many ticky-tack fouls that they usually get and want at home. Didn’t call too many fouls and was in complete control of the game. His linesmen were excellent and had to be in a game like this where both teams play absurdly high lines. The no call on Pedro’s attempt right at the start of the match was a thing of beauty.
If there is a criticism towards Bussaca is that he didn’t give out enough yellows, and, possibly, reds. I thought he had two opportunities to send off RVP earlier in the match. He could have and, probably, would have if he saw RVP rake Messi’s Achilles. Play happened way too fast for him to see it. He should have given yellows to Abidal, and Valdez for grabbing Arsenal players’ necks. See here. http://twitpic.com/47w69k
That’s not a red card offense, in my opinion, grabbing someone’s neck that way. It’s the face and up in regards to violent conduct. See Drogba’s dismissal against Man U in the Final.
hilarious nonsense, all the way through. “it’s the face and up”? hahahahaha
”If he doesn’t send him, he fails his assessment and doesn’t get anymore Champions League matches for the season.”
Well that is merely speculation. The likeliest option is however, that no one would’ve even payed attention to it, just the crowd booing and players minding their business (if he’d just ignored the incident). Bussaca could’ve just given RVP a strict talking to and get on with it.
If you go by the book, sure it was a yellow card, but referees need to put things into context (as you said). There was still like 35mins to play, it’s an european cup round of 16 and wether RVP even heard the whistle, is somewhat speculative. So to send off a player in this scenario because he is allegedly wasting time, is a blatant mistake. Referee’s are human, they don’t live in a vacuum… well sure! Everyone can agree on that. But they indeed are professionals, and at least should be, the very elite of referees. They are used to it and should be able to cope with such things as cameras and crowd, especially the ones who are doing their job in CL.
Also I disagree on the ”grabbing necks” incident. Referee’s no.1 priority is to protect players, and putting your hand on another player’s throat is about hostile as it gets. That kind of behaviour simply doesn’t belong on a football field. Ref’s should be A LOT more strict on these, since they’ve become much more common than they used to be, or at least it seems like it to me. Obviously in this particular match red card would’ve been too much, but I’d like to see stricter approach from officials when players are grabbing each other like that.
Barcelona must be doping their players.
How else can they press so much and win the people like that game after game for 90 minutes? It’s just running and closing down other players, that’s it, it takes energy and heart and not skill. Yet it’s not replicated by other teams despite being so successful with barca.
Hi Infidel, I see like me you are new to the sport. I checked the internet and it turns out Arsenal played Barcelona a couple of weeks before and Barcelona played a similar game. Anyway, long story short, Barcelona tired horribly in the last 20 minutes or so and Arsenal scored two goals and actually beat them! I know! I hadn’t realised Barcelona had ever lost before either! So I guess the answer to your question is that they don’t press for 90 minutes after all and that it really didn’t matter all that much in this game as Arsenal were a man down in the latter stage (you know, the time in which they scored all the goals that beat Barcelona last time). Anyway, looking forward to the next game of soccerball, maybe I’ll see you there!
In fact Barcelona scores most of their goals in the final 20 minutes when the opponents get too tired. It’s much more demanding chasing a ball than controlling it. And if you read further up in this thread, it’s explained how Barcelona is resting while passing the ball, how they seldom take long runs chasing the ball. They simply move around all the time and just occasionally explodes with speed.
And they have been playing like this since they were kids.
They rest when they have the ball, that’s how.
Thanks for all the insightful stories and comments. I really enjoy reading this site.
Isn’t time for Wenger to leave now? You can be the greatest of leaders, at some point your team just need something different to move forward. I’m supporting Barcelona, but as a football-lover I’m tired of seeing Arsenal as the talented but helpless losers.
And Wenger has created a mentality where it’s never in the hands of Arsenal, a loss is always unfair and out of their control. How can you then improve and avoid these losses?
Maybe Arsenal would need a coach who would force the incorporation of some new players, tougher, defensive adding to the qualities Wenger has already created in the team.
And adding a winning mentality where they can believe in winning, no matter of decisions, injuries, etc.