Arsenal 2-1 Barcelona: Arsenal turn it around

The starting line-ups
Great goals from Robin van Persie and Andrei Arshavin gave Arsenal their first-ever victory over Barcelona.
Arsene Wenger was able to welcome back Samir Nasri from injury on the left. The rest of the side was as expected.
Pep Guardiola also named the predicted side, with Eric Abidal in Carles Puyol’s place, and Maxwell at left-back.
Crucially, Arsenal made a good start without the ball. Having been battered in the first ten minutes in this fixture last season, there was a much better attitude without the ball from the beginning this time around. The pressure on Barcelona’s midfield meant Arsenal forced Barcelona to give the ball away after 16 seconds, and though the away side had spells of clear dominance, they didn’t enjoy the ludicrous level of control they exerted a year ago.
Arsenal high line
With the increased pressure came a high defensive line, so as not to leave space between midfield and attack. The problem with this strategy is that it only takes one mistake to allow the opposition in, and the particular problem against Barcelona is that the combination of superb passers in midfield and forwards with tremendous acceleration makes it very risky, as Real Madrid found out last year.
In general, Arsenal kept a good line, although first Lionel Messi and then David Villa broke through. Messi missed, Villa scored, and Arsenal had a spell before half time when they looked nervous. Still, their pressing meant that Arsenal were in the game more, winning the ball back higher up the pitch and building attacks of their own. Only a lack of precision in the final third from Cesc Fabregas and Robin van Persie meant Arsenal didn’t turn decent breaks into goalscoring ones.

Lionel Messi picked the ball up in very deep positions (from TotalFootball iPhone app)
Arsenal positioning
Nasri and Theo Walcott played deep and formed a second bank of four, which gave them a good defensive base to work from, with Fabregas slightly further forward.
Arsenal also played more compact than usual – van Persie always drops into deep positions but was closer to his midfield than usual, making himself available for a quick forward pass. This was something Arsenal missed last season – good link-up play from the forward (van Persie was unavailable for both legs).
Barcelona dominate
Still, Barcelona had the better of the first half, after a slow start. As always, the key to their front three is fluidity and therefore trying to define the roles of Messi, Villa and Pedro is somewhat pointless, but Messi played very deep, often coming into midfield and linking play.
However, Arsenal coped quite well with him there – whereas Espanyol responded to the same threat by bringing their centre-backs up towards him and leaving space in behind, Johan Djourou and Laurent Koscielny were reserved and disciplined, leaving Messi to Alex Song and Jack Wilshere. Song was something of a worry for Arsenal after he picked up an early card.
The expected dangerman, Theo Walcott, was rather quiet. Maxwell didn’t have many problems in 1 v 1s and also received help from Andres Iniesta, whilst Walcott’s relatively deep positioning didn’t suit his game – he was getting balls played into his feet on the touchline, rather than being immediately on the defensive line and looking to use his pace in behind. That approach was something Arsenal didn’t take advantage of enough until late in the game.
Second half
Whilst never being a poor contest, the game went quiet at the beginning of the second half, with neither side taking control and no major tactical changes. The general pattern of play continued from the first half.

The formations from 76 minutes onwards
Guardiola’s decision to bring on Seydou Keita for David Villa on 67 minutes looks like a mistake in hindsight. Barcelona pushed Iniesta forward into the front three but they had less attacking threat – they sat back too much and focused on keeping possession rather than looking for further chances.
Wenger made an attacking switch – Song off, Arshavin on, and Nasri into the middle of the pitch. Those two substitutions happened at the same time, so it wasn’t either manager responding to the other, but it worked nicely for Arsenal. Whilst taking off their holding midfielder was something of a risk, the fact that Barcelona no longer had a driving, attack-minded central midfielder meant it wasn’t an issue. Song’s absence meant Iniesta would have thrived in the centre of midfield – the two were in direct competition.
Comeback
Wenger made a further change – Walcott off, Nicklas Bendtner on. Whether this had much of an impact upon the subsequent proceedings is debatable, but it is the second time in less than a month that Arsenal have brought on Arshavin and Bendtner in the final 25 minutes, and turned a 0-1 into a 2-1.
It was van Persie’s excellent finish from a tight angle that got the equaliser, and then Barca responded and the game opened up. Twenty seconds before Arshavin scored the winner, Barca outnumbered Arsenal at the other end, but couldn’t work the opening. A lightning quick break down the right through Nasri (ironically, the kind of situation Walcott was praying for all game) saw the Frenchman pull the ball back for Arshavin to bend into the net. Gerard Pique was five yards behind his defence in a poor position, whilst Alves jogged back when he could have cut out the final pass with a quick burst.
Arshavin’s introduction provided the inevitable moment of defensive calamity when up against Alves late on, but Barcelona couldn’t manufacture a clear chance at 2-1 down. At 0-1 they’d gone into their shell, and found it impossible to emerge as an attacking threat again.
Conclusion
Arsenal’s tactics were largely correct from the start. Granted, they had less possession and had to endure some nervous moments, but that’s to be expected against Barcelona. No combination of tactics can prevent Messi from creating, and Arsenal rode their luck on a couple of occasions – but the pressing was consistent, integrated, and meant Arsenal were in the game as an attacking force.
The substitutions were extremely important. Guardiola took off his goalscorer at a time when Barcelona looked likely to have chances on the break, whilst Arsenal stepped up their attacking threat with the introduction of a wide forward for a holding midfielder. That gave Arsenal the attacking impetus and more creative quality in the centre of the pitch (with a Fabregas-Nasri-Wilshere trio) and made the comeback in the final 12 minutes possible.
Arsenal 2-1 Barcelona: Arsenal turn it around




Wilshere was a wonderful tonight. He looked every bit as good as Xavi/Iniesta. What a future he has ahead of him.
Uh.
“Blasphemer! He placed the boy above the glorious Spanish Ones!”
And he’s now subject to a Spanish inquisition!
Well he was Arsenals best midfielder for sure, absolutely magnificent. I know people keep on saying it but think how amazing it is for someone 18 years old to produce a performance of such discipline and confidence against Barcelona!
NOBODY expects The Spanish Inquisition!
A fair comment I think, he was man of the match for me. Not bad for a kid.
Busquet’s the player who didn’t mark Fabregas for his through-ball to Nasri for the second goal, such a small mistake, but it was fundamental. Sloppy from Busquets.
Well Done. You picked up on something that this article has missed completely. It wasn’t just that goal (where Busquets was drawn to Wilshere on the ball, leaving Fabregas free to play the through ball to Nasri) throughout the match Busquets failed to mark fabregas (the lobbed pass for Van Persie in the opening minutes being the best example) and failed to provide cover in the centre of midfield (allowing Walcott twice and Wilshere once to run through the middle totally unopposed). He even failed to follow the run of Van Persie for the opening goal, although he couldn’t have prevented the goal he should still have the defensive discipline to track back on runners, as he failed to do on numerous occasions.
Busquets is a defensive liability, his man marking skills are poor and he doesn’t hold his position in defensive midfield, allowing players like Fabregas time and space “in the hole” It’s only because Barcelona have so much possession and he has quality defenders behind him that Busquets’ failings are not exposed more frequently.
All that, and not one word on Busquets in the entire article.
Busquets had a terrible match, but surely you can’t overlook all the positives he has done for Barcelona? In their 4-3-3, he’s crucial in forming the back three and creating an extremely fluid defence. Of course, put him next to Mascherano or other DM’s like Essien or De Rossi and his defensive qualities will be outranked, but Busquets just isn’t your classic DM. But yes, he had a terrible match.
He didn’t have the greatest, yes, but some of those “errors” were caused by the fact he was the sole holding midfielder against an Arsenal side that after 70 minutes decided to play with two attacking midfielders, with at the very least all three — Wilshere, Fabregas, Iniesta — making driving runs that were not picked up by Xavi/Iniesta/Keita.
*For the record, I happen to think Busquets is an excellent man-marker (see: sneijder, WC Final) and his pressing, for the most part, was fairly good this game.
Sergi didn’t have his best game and while his defensive mistakes may be more highlighted. The fact that Barce spent a larger portion than usual in the center of the field was due to being outnumbered in the midfield at times and Busquets like Xavi had no forward outlets save Messi cutting into space. I think Busquets played poor but much of it was due to the focus of Arsenal cutting down space, a place where Busquets does his work. Xavi and Iniesta play a majority of their game within inches of one or two defenders, it is abnormal for Busquets to be under similar pressure.
busquets didnt have a terrible game at all…his job by pep guardiola isnt to man mark fabregas, and is instead to vacate the hole position which he did. His passing and ball retention was spot on as always and nicked the ball well several times
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oa6G-1eBrPc
“He even failed to follow the run of Van Persie for the opening goal.”
You have to be kidding me? This run, which was ‘picked up’ by Pique (Van Persie was essentially being zonal marked) is Busquets fault? Most bizarrely hated player in Europe.
Thank you, i thought that was a ludicrous accusation as well. I also can’t understand why he is so under-appreciated and even hated by so many people world-wide. I think he is fantastic, especially for Barcelona.
Im an Inter fan and I will never forget his dive and peek from Motta’s innocuous shield last season. Ironically this paved the way for Inter to set up camp completely.
But yes. His distributive role is archetypal in the same way Makelele’s destroyer role was at Chelsea. Denilson and more recently Wilshere play the same role for Arsenal and it shows that the role can allow for someone who is very good on the ball. Busquets is a one touch player.
Busquets isnt a defensive liablity as i recall he completely shut up some german boy named ozil in the world cup semi final. I dont think he was instructed to man mark fabergas, because hes shown he can do a great job marking up good attacking players. But yeah his defending was generally poor today. I think arsenal got lucky but than again you need luck when playing against the best team of our generation. So i send my congratulations to arsenal.
Best team of the generation ?
ha ha.. I have to laugh at barca fans who keep living in a dream world.. They keep piling goals against poor oppositions in La liga and call themselves best teams.. Copenhagen, Hercules, sporting and now Arsenal have shut them down this season.. Your fanboy Messi dont know how to score anywhere other than Nou camp.. big time blooper he is.. Schweinsteiger shut him down out of the pitch in the WC and yesterday Song kept him out.. Still he’ll win awards.. Wat a crap barca and their supporters are !! keep dreaming.. I bet this year, you wont reach finals..
I agree the hyperbolics are a bit ridiculous but saying Messi “don’t[sic] know how to score anywhere other than Nou camp” is not simply incorrect; it’s downright hilariously wrong-headed. Song kept him out? Perhaps…but he did get the Villa assist and was barely off on a ‘debatable’ offside goal and a quick breakaway chip. Not one of his best performances certainly, but he wasn’t a non-factor by any stretch of the imagination.
Who’s the best team of this generation then?
I agree with Thomas H. – Barca are the best side of a generation by a mile, but people get this confused with us claiming they are perfect. Being the best doesn’t make them unbeatable, it just means they’re better than the rest overall. They play the best football and have 4 or 5 of the world’s best players. And as faker asks, who the hell is the best team of this generation if it’s not Barca?! There are no other contenders really, Man United are the only ones that come close over the past 5 years I’d say, and admittedly they have been a bit dull this year since losing Ronaldo and Tevez.
Only so much you can do as a single DM, esp. when both FBs are often up the field, and Arsenal breaks with width. And since Busquets was playing so deep (between the CBs, as has often been noted here) Arsenal was able to attack him with a full head of steam. These things happen when, if you noticed, Barcelona sometimes pressed an Arsenal midfield player with 4(!) players. When Arsenal was able to play out of those situations, it left a whole lot of space to cover.
Agree with John, I also think that Busquets wasn’t instructed to mark Fabregas.
Barcelona failed at pressing, Barca defence at moments looked like a zone 4 1 4 1, rather then high pressing.
im a barca fan that watches just about every game we play…that being said
busquests played abnormally high up the pitch today…its customary that he sits in between the cbs when in possesion…yesterday that was not the case…he was often in positions the alves normally occupies (the right of midfield ahead of xavi) which i thought was weird..
despite that IMO busi had a wonderful game..he was calm on the ball, passed it well, and won back posession with some noteworthy tackles. if anyone is to blame for the goals it would be pique (and valdes) in both instances
your personal vendetta with Busquets is misplaced here, where the focus is on what actually happened. re-watched the video of the first goal posted by Thomas below, and your claim regarding slack marking from Busquets is ridiculous.
As ZM and many other commentators noted during both the world cup and Barca’s excellent past 3 seasons Busquets has been growing as a player and has done a great job defensively in general. He’s not my favorite, this wasn’t his best game, and I like the look of Barca when the play Keita better, but to say he’s a defensive liability in general is just wrong.
Brilliant article I think it’s interesting how the introduction of Bendtner and Arshavin was different tactically in this game than the Everton game. In the Everton game it was to give Cesc space from deep whereas in this game it was to give Arsenal an extra option or two, having Arshavin, Nasri, Fabregas, Van Persie and Wilshere definitely provided an attacking threat. Song had become a liability and Bendtner offered height upfront.
I thought Eboue had a brilliant game – he looked like he did in the 2005-6 season whereas a lot of times earlier this season he has been responsible for massive lapses of concentration – last season vs. Stoke a good example.
But most of all just a giant yeahhhhhhh!!! Whoop!!! Etc.
I was delighted to see that Eboue had a solid game. Hopefully this’ll help silence the haters.
So was Messi offside or not? Can someone settle this definitively?
If you watched the game, he clearly strays offsides before the ball is played. There was no question.
Have you seen the replay ?? How can you say it was offside ? it was clearly Onside.
Clearly onside.
I think he’s just offside – the ball comes back off Szczesny when he makes the save and THEN back off Pedro again, at which point Messi is in front of him and is thus offside. ITV were looking at the wrong frames when analysing the decision.
Exactly. It was a brilliant decision by the assistant referee. Now if only he’d been on the other side of the pitch, he might have spotted the clear handball from Arshavin in the closing minutes.
Be careful about criticizing ITV here.
I stand for this frame to say Messi was onside: http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/2896/messin.png
That’s the closest I’ve got to Pedro’s last touch. Another angle might prove otherwise but that was a good goal for me.
Think he’s onside but it’s a tough decision. Messi probably blocked the linesman’s view a bit too so I think he just went for the “safe” since Barca were one up by then.
If you look at the grass cut mark where Pedro gets the deflection off the keeper he is clearly further upfield than Messi. If you look at the AR in reference to that same cut mark he is 1 meter behind the play. This snapshot does not show it but there is a video that does. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vl3jgy0fKrI&feature=player_embedded Messi was always behind the ball the entire play.
Seems like most are in agreement that the only pertinent issue here is Messi’s positioning vis a vis the ball at the time of the deflection off Pedro. But here, there is only one real fact–namely that the side judge is better (perhaps not ideally, but better) placed than the camera to decide. The video evidence is not conclusive: wrong side, wrong angle. (And yes I’ve seen the frame-by-frame replay–impossible to tell exactly when the ball deflects off Pedro, and hence judge Messi’s position).
Tough call for Barcelona, lucky call for Arsenal–as the flag could have stayed down. On the other hand, Messi, though disappointed, did not protest all that much. He must have realized that he could have strayed offside.
Booo hooooo. We woz robbed! I guess Barca never benefitted from a ridiculous decision.
Oh, surely they have benefitted at times and were harmed at times, but the question is, what does it have to do with this game, huh?
That’s funny that the whole world remembers Chelsea game two years ago, but it doesn’t remember Milito’s offside goal in Milan. And now this. I guess people are just jealous.
@sibelkacem
Noone remembers the two incorrect calls earlier in that first leg tie when Milito and Eto’o were hauled back for offside incorrectly. Milito through on goal last season one on one, 30 yards from goal is 1-0 inside 10 minutes.
Lets remember everything, please.
“I guess people are just jealous.”
Why would anyone be jealous of a team that can’t close out a match against Arsenal?
It was onside.
Omniscient ZM, can you settle this question?
Do you mean Villa?
If you mean Villa, when he scored, Clichy looked to be keeping him on. The ITV guys didn’t feel like it was even in question after seeing one replay.
They were referring to Messi’s disallowed goal
I’m beginning to think that I mis-timed a bathroom break.
That was onside. The ball bounced from the goal keeper right. May be the linesman was pressured by the fans. may be I dont know.
Referee didnt spot two hand balls as well, one in the first half and the other with Arshavin in the second.
Neither of them were close to handball. Brushing against an arm down by your side has never and will never be handball. Both times the ball continued into the path of a Barca player with a chance to score any way
The Arshavin one was headed onto his own arm. That’s not intentional in a million years.
Does it matter if it was intentional from Arshavin? Sure, not cause for booking, but still a handball,
To be honest he looked onside, but really no angle given was definitive… On that note the extra ref behind the goals in these games have seem to change NOTHING in terms of bad foul, goal kick vs corner decisions… No big surprise.
People will look at the first Arsenal goal as a great play from Clichy and a clinical finish from van Persie, but credit must go to Arsene Wenger’s substitutions and Bendtner’s fantastic positioning.
Bendtner came on, giving arsenal a second forward attacking threat. He was coming into the back post when van Persie shot, which forced Victor Valdes to stray from his near post. If Bendtner hadn’t been in the game, giving van Persie a second option, it is quite possible van Persie would never have scored from the angle he did.
Also, while Walcott wasn’t a great attacking threat until later in the game (as mentioned in the article), he did play a huge role defensively, harassing the Barcelona players and using his speed to prevent them from having time on the ball.
He was pissed he didn’t get the ball on the second goal, and if he had cut the ball back they could have had another. So another mixed performance from Bendtner. Van Persie says he didn’t know how the ball went in, but his celebration looked like he knew he was baiting Valdes to guard the cross.
great observation there
True, but van Persie was threatening with shots all night. How many times did he get the ball in space and blast it high or wide?
“which forced Victor Valdes to stray from his near post”: nah, not “forced”. Can we agree on “tempted”?
a fine edit, I concur with your suggestion.
Or even “seduced”?
“a great play from Clichy”
Damn skippy. a fantastic lob with his weak foot. the kind of play Arsenal need from him more often…
Yes! Reminded me of Song’s goal against West Ham.
I thought Valdes was shocking for both goals to be honest… no keeper worth his salt gets beaten like that at the near post and he just completely lost his footing for Arshavin’s goal which wasn’t a particularly good shot. Two routine saves for a keeper of his quality IMO…
How about the biggest shocker of the night? Messi missing a chip!!! That was probably his bread and butter shot, a soft chip with his left foot over a stranded goalkeeper, and he pulled it wide. Good positioning from Szczesny, but Messi should have put it in when one on one.
seriously? do you know how difficult the technique to pull that one is? keep in mind we’re talking about the world’s finest professionals, and his shot was timed to perfection, placed to go in as far away from both defenders and keeper, with a forward spin so it would be dificult to defend. he missed by…that much! what a player
Has anyone given credit to Szczesny for routinely getting down to the ground in such a style that the forward couldn’t just put the ball between his legs? This required Messi to shoot past him, thus increasing the chance of missing. The one exception when Szczesny didn’t manage do it was when he was running out quickly to try to block Villa, who did indeed stick it between his legs.
Well done to the Polish youngster!
Agreed, that shot was tougher than it looks (to lift it instead of just hitting it adds a bit of complexity physically) but Szczesny (in the US we just anglicize it to Chesney, Kenny) played it perfectly. I thought it might spin in though.
I’ve always thought Valdes was very average, those were very bad mistakes tho.
Inconsistent, not average. When he has a good match, he has a really good match.
To be fair, a inconsistent goalie isn’t worth a wank. He makes less bloopers now than he used to but…
First one was definitely more of a mistake than the second, the shot from Arshavin he was heavily screened by two of his own defenders, I was surprised he was caught moving the wrong way that badly as at first I thought the shot was more off to the side — where it was, you would expect a keeper to at least have a chance at getting a hand to it. Instead, Valdes had all his weight in the wrong direction and wound up frozen.
I think valdez is a great sweeper keeper. Sweeping up balls infront of his defence, handling one on ones, and his distribution is top notch. When it comes to the traditional roles of a goalkeeper i think hes really poor.
He is good at one on one situations, and in reading the game. He is not good in positioning at crosses and set pieces. But in all, he is way better then he was few years ago.
“heavily screened by two of his own defenders”
exactly. he had no hope of seeing that shit, so once the defenders didn’t block the shot he really had no chance.
Valdes was never a good keeper, he just doesnt get tested as often as other good keepers and even when tested its with weak efforts from isolated forwards from a tough angle.
The Arshavin goal wasnt his fault. Ridiculous. The keeper is scrambling across his goal, as he has to from an excellent ball across the area, where the defence is exposed. Arshavin places is not into the big space but the small one because the keeper’s weight is taking him the other way.
Excellent finish.
Agree with this totally – great finish by Arshavin and the keeper had no chance whatsoever. And great decision and vision by Nasri to pull the ball back to Arshavin rather than try to force the ball square to the far post through 2 or 3 defenders.
“…Arshavin’s goal which wasn’t a particularly good shot.”
???? – I see 90% of players at all levels (including many top-class pros) miss that shot from that position, because they try to kill the ball. Inevitably, the ball rockets harmlessly 20 yards over the goal. Arshavin knew that when the ball is coming back to you like that, just make solid contact and go for placement – the keeper can’t reverse direction to cover and physics will do the rest. It was an excellent and perfectly controlled shot.
Very interesting night. A pitch absolutely bursting with flair and determination when Arsenal put Nasri, Wilshere and Fabregas together, up against Barca’s wonderful AMFs. I thought Fabregas seemed – as in many matches this season – to be coasting a little. Intercepted passes, a reluctance to go for goal, slack pressing, and not-so-tremendous positioning. Song has really stepped up his game, and now has wilshere alongside him, not denilson or diaby, and that has meant Fabregas seemes to me to have really relaxed this season. Perhaps he’s tired from winning the world cup, or felt the effects of tiredness late on last season, and has become wary. There are other possibilities; the effect was unmistakeable: he’s blunt.
What a player wilshere has become already – and how incredible it is to think that we have rosicky and ramsey to fight for central midfield too!
Very good night for Koscielny, too, who made up from some pretty iffy defending from Djourou. The replacement of Djourou with Vermaelen will be a godsend as the season advances. Also a good performance from Eboue – confident, disciplined, with high work-rate and not too many theatrics. What I thought would be the weak link in the team turned out to have made Sagna unmissed. Sagna meanwhile gets a welcome rest that will also be a benefit to the side as a whole going forwards. I still find it surprising that Messi was never really tried out on the left tonight, up against Eboue, however. Is he traditionally so reliant on coming in from the right, or on a partnership with Alves?
The season is shaping up really quite well for Arsenal.
I agree with your assessment of Cesc’s complacency. He was playing at 80%, I don’t know if it’s because it’s his mates on the other side or just because he’s not that into Arsenal anymore, but it was far from vintage Cesc.
Oh god not this again. He has been really good for the whole season (baring the part where he was recovering from injury), just because he wasn’t man of the match in this fixture does not mean he wants to leave.
For real give me a break. Cesc had a bit of a wobbler but the last month he’s been the best midfielder in EPL. He captained Arsenal to the most historic win at the Emirates. Lay off him. We’ve got Cesc Fabregas and he isn’t going anywhere ( cause Barca will be in for Wilshere instead ) lol
Oh Lord. Yes he plays poorly for Arsenal because his heart’s still in Barca. Enjoy your nonsensical delusion champ! (And I mean “champ” in the nicest possible way, honest).
You clearly didn’t see the numbers right after the match. Fabregas was both top runner and top passer from Arsenal. Around 12 km and 40 passes. At Barca it was again Xavi with 12 km and 109 passes.
Thank you George. This is what this site is supposed to be about: making statements that can actually be verified rather than they typical pundit’s piffle about heart and bottle and wanting it.
The numbers doesnt tell you how many of them were crucial and how many times he lost the ball in important times.. If a more willing player was playing, he would have created more opportunities.. Yes, he assisted the first goal, but the break was anyway on.. anyone would have done that…
Wilshere was wonderful.. Arsenal need someone with that heart to beat barcelona in nou camp.. dont let fabgregas play there.. his pressing was too casual.. the only way they can win in barcelona or keep the aggregate high is to defend deep and hit on counters with walcott, van persie and nasri.. fabrags will slow down and is not defending particularly well..
They have to repeat what Inter did last year defensively in nou campand offensively in san siro.. Wilshere will again be crucial.. Expose this poorly balanced team called Barcelona.. so poor in defense..
baseless speculation, begone. seek your rightful place on tabloid message boards.
Djourou has been outstanding this season; on current form he’s Arsenal’s best CB by a country mile. He didn’t play brilliantly tonight, but he was still pretty solid.
At the moment I think he’s undroppable, even when Vermaelen comes back.
yeah djourou has been our best CB, his physical presence is key to defending against strong physical teams and set plays. Barcelona are not a team that plays physical direct football, so djourou performance wasn’t the best. but he still brings a calm to our defense that is missing without him, honestly vermealen will have to fight to get his position back, he will have to combine with either koscielny or djourou and be more effective then the djourou koscielny partnership(which has almost been perfect)
Honestly, as big a fan of Djourou I am, I thought he was merely decent. Koscielny had a spectacular game though. I am having some trouble deciding wherther MOTM is Koscielny or Jack Wilshere, who cut Barca apart routinely. Now if we could just get Kos to play like that alongside Squillaci.
Djorou’s poor defending cost Arsenal going one behind, though it has to be said that the move started due to Song’s ridicolous positioning/ lapse in concentration.
Villa is goalscorer who live’s from trying to break the offside trap. As a defender, there isn’t a worse thing than letting him get behind your back and not knowing exactly where he is. As defender you should always ”feel” him, no matter what.
But I do agree that he probably has been Arsenal’s best centre-back this season. If his positioning and man marking are to develope to same level as his physical attributes (what a speedy defender!) and tackling skills are, you have a sheer quality CB there. Judging from the matches I’ve seen, he usually appears to be great due to numerous last ditch tackles/blocks, but truth be told, quite often he has to do those due to his own petty mistakes.
And sorry if that sounded like a rant, didn’t mean to come out harsh.
Erm it was obviously Clichy that was playing Villa onside, yes Djourou stepped up but not that far and Clichy was still behind Eboue and Koscielney. It was his fault.
The one at fault was Song, who gave away the ball so Barca could do a mini-counter.
Just so you know, Fabregas ran 12.6km according to the UEFA stats–more than any other player. The overall pace of players in this game may have made him look less explosive than usual, but he covered plenty of ground… Also, on his cross cleared by Abidal on the break, I thought normally he would have shot, but Walcott’s pass led him a touch wider than he would have liked.
Despite Song’s yellow, I thought the pressure he put on Messi was excellent, and many of the fouls he was called for were minimal. He also showed a composure on the ball that I hadn’t expected, dribbling his way out of trouble multiple times.
Dude, GTF outta here. Below, George epitomizes the ethic of this site by citing the facts, while you spout pure nonsense about “coasting”.
Giving you the benefit of the doubt, I’ll suggest why you might have been mistaken. I think of it like the Chicago Bulls with Michael Jordan. When his team consisted of luminaries like Brad Sellers, Dave Corzine, Sedale Threatt and Granville Waiters (86-87) MJ had to get 37 points, 6 rebounds, 5 assists, 3 steals and a block and a half per game to keep the team competitive (see http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/CHI/1987.html). Once the team evolved to feature Pippen, Grant, Armstrong, Cartwright, Livingston, Williams etc. MJ could afford to be more selective, taking 5 less shots per game, scoring less points while shooting a higher percentage.
When Cesc has to carry a team wracked with injuries and filled with youths, he seems to be working extra-hard and his excess qualities stand out. When he’s got Van Persie, Nasri, Arshavin, Walcott, Wilshire, Song and so on to combined with, he doesn’t have to do it all himself, but that doesn’t mean he’s not working hard.
You do that in EPL against lower teams.. not in the CL knockout phase.. When you are 0-1 down and need goals, he slowed down the game and was not pressing hard enough.. Ask Snejder how to work hard in the midfield or Schweinsteiger..
Did you see Arshavins goal? Perfect pass out for Nasri. Sincerly doubt anyone but Xavi would pull that one.
I was mentioning about fabregas there..
Yes, it was a good pass, but he had acres of space in the center to pass the ball and the defender did not close him down and allowed it..
way to completely fail to address the issue while continuing to make unsupported assertions.
messi never really play from the left…hes either in the center or attacking from the right
although he did miss a chance that came from the left side…sidenetting
i thought Barcelona became complacent in the second and their level dropped. In saying that if Messi had finished his chances, a big score was inevitable.
great article, as always.
barca looked tired in the second half..
Guardiola makes big substitution errors in the big games in the Champions League. His decision to take off Villa and bring on Keita reminds me of his decision to take off Ibra and push Pique up front in the last ten minutes against Inter in last year’s semi final. Both were terrible tactical substitutions. As talented as a manager he may be, his lack of decades of experience in these big games, which Ferguson, Ancelotti and Wenger certainly have, is evident, IMO.
I’m assuming it was a fitness thing with Villa, not sure if he looked tired or not though. Definitely should have kept the midfield trio in-tact and bring in Afellay or Bojan. Keita still looks out-of-place amongst the players with “Barcelona DNA.” And why did he bring in Adriano at the end of the match? Compared to Wenger’s subs, Guardiola’s were lacklustre and partially damaging.
I’d forgotten Afellay had joined Barca. Can anyone who watches them regularly let me know how he’s settling in?
Afellay has been estimated good. Scored 1 so far. Just hasn’t got enough time to play. Very quick and agile so that his playing style is very suitable for Barca IMO.
Afellay had a bad match at Gijon and might need time to settle. There’s a YouTube video floating around today of communication problems between Afellay and the Spanish speakers. Valdes had to take him aside and talk in English during the match
regarding Villa’s substitution, he missed today’s training session due to ankle bruise! .. so i’m guessing here it was a matter of physical condition. now who was supposed to be brought in instead of Villa? i think it’s relevant and if i go in pep’s mind .. i think he wanted his players to keep the result and the ball for a couple of minutes and wait for Wenger’s subs so that he opens the game more .. but the player couldn’t keep it ..
about Adriano sub, i think his role was supposed to be similar to villa but with more defensive ability , adriano is fast and a good dribbler. but the problem is .. barca’s players lost their temper after the 2 goals and couldn’t have that good concentration to keep the ball and find good gaps.
IMO .. last year game and this year game (in the emirates) .. by looking at the pace of the play and the ammount of the pressure those midfielders players are putting for almost 90 min .. i think it’s quite understandable to see them tired ..
e.g. Busquests is very disciplined player in terms of doing his roles , but seeing him running everywhere (alone) since the 1st min, that would probably leave him without energy in the last 15 min .. he’s just a human being
The decision to tale Ibra off against inter was a good one as ibra was playing like a traffic cone.If anything he shouldnt have started either leg as he wasn’t match fit.If you want to criticize a removal of ibra it would be the arsenal game last year, which identically as the villa sub today killed any attacking thrust the side had.
Alves had a terrible game. I lost count of how many times he gave the ball away.
Thank God you’re not claiming, like in the previous article, the goals resulted from tactical substitutions and wouldn’t have come otherwise.
I don’t agree that the tactics by Arsenal were correct. Theo was forced into a defensive role and Arsenal’s biggest strength wasn’t used as well as it should have been.
I also get the feeling that Barcelona tire towards the end of such games. They don’t face the same physical intensity as Arsenal do in England. Since their style is slow and patient they’ll find it difficult to regain momentum once they concede a lead as they did late in this game.
You’re kidding right? You accuse Barcelona of not having fitness? Really?
Most likely, they were thinking on the small winner 1-0, perhaps even drawing, 1-1, which would still be a positive scenario for them. I’ve noticed that these kinds of teams don’t play all they got outside their home field. I suspect we will see a different barcelona at home, and a more frightened Arsenal too.
I hope not. Anyways, I am not partisan. Both are amazing teams, and it’s a pity that one of them will fail to pass to the next round.
The way Barca press they always run the risk of tiring when a good team hangs in there and is still in with a chance in the last 15 minutes. Plus the way they and Real Madrid have been pushing each other in the league and cup, and with Barca’s small squad, fatigue is something I think will become a feature of both those teams’ run-ins.
Guardiola doesn’t rotate his players much. It isn’t very easy to be fit and fresh after a world cup winning performance. They definitely looked tired and out of steam. The pressing wasn’t as spectacular as it usually is from Barcelona.
It is not a secret that Barcelona is below their par when playing away in Champions League (just check out the scores and performance in away matches last CL, or even this year against Kopenhavn), although I don’t think this is because “they don’t want to show all they got”, but rather for some other reasons…
The Camp Nou game is always different. The question is now, how will Arsenal perform there.
They didn’t get tired. They just didn’t give it 100% because they probably thought they had a good result and didn’t need to fight for more. Even 2-1 is a decent result for Barcelona.
This is not an El Clásico where Barcelona’s players would play a tactically perfect game for 90 minutes, while running non-stop.
Unfortunately, Arsenal will be completely castigated in Camp Nau. It’s how usually it plays out…
They said that before Inter went to Camp Nou too.
If castigated means murdered than yeah luis is completely correct. If arsenal attack and play the high line they played today they are done.
1. Barcas home
2. Barca are going to attack them more(they need the win)
3. The nou camp is huge.(There will be space in abundance if arsenal attack)
Im sorry they are going to need to pull an inter because Barcelona will murder them on the transitions.
The huge space in nou camp work both ways, since like you said Barca is going to attack, and they will leave space behind as well. I’m not saying Arsenal will win, but I’ll give them more credit.
Um, Barca were comprehensively beaten here, look at the shot tally. Besides, Ashburton Grove is pretty big anyway. Arsenal likes a big pitch too. Anyway, Barca are the better team on paper, but Barca fans seem to forget the pitch is made of grass, not paper.
Let’s look at each of these:
1. Obviously Barca being at home is an advantage. But by the same token, Arsenal’s away form this season has been exemplary, and better than their home form.
2. The more Barcelona attack, the more of a weapon the pace of Walcott is on the break. As we saw last night, Barcelona don’t want to put themselves in a position vulnerable to counter attacks, as they will be punished even without Theo on the pitch.
3. The pitch at the Nou Camp is exactly the same size as the pitch at the Emirates. Look it up.
Until last night, no-one had beaten the current Barcelona by matching their style and ethos. But hey, it happened. So let’s not presume Arsenal will just be rolled over in the other leg, they have more than enough in their locker to go through.
but did Arsenal really “match” their style and ethos? both teams were not even near their best, and Barcelona seemed to tire at the end. Arsenal started amazingly, for a second i thought they’ll replicate Barca’s blitzkreig from last season…but ye, it only lasted a scond or two.
why did they retreat so quickly when Barcelona figured how to keep the ball again? Arsene talk a lot about sticking to his values, but its all lies, and even Pep lies when he says that. the difference is, Barca can defend with the ball, whereas Arsenal are worse than Barcelona without the ball, and thats saying a lot.
arsenal have improved a great deal, but i doubt its enough. at least this time around they didn’t look desperate. they should maturity, grit and patience. Song losing his cool early on cost them a more comfortable 3-1 in my opinion. taking him out and leaving Nasri/Wilshere behind Cesc will limit those 2 players’ offensive contribution.
with a 2-1 lead at home going to the camp nou, Arsenal need to either take the game to Barcelona (fitness factor will benefit them) or pull a Chelsea…i doubt Barca will figure that one out, as much as i doubt Arsenal have the mental edge to kill this kind of game off
Arsenal of late are as good as Chelsea, ManU, and City in the goals conceded column. Leave out the fluke at Newcastle and they look even more solid. It’s not true they are weak at the back. Simply not true. Sagna will also be back for the return leg.
you make highly dubious assertions – the fields are of similar size, and it’s not like Barca didn’t attack in this game.
Advocating that one team try to play for nil nil is just ugly. show some respect for the sport.
“3. The nou camp is huge.”
The field at Emirates is just as large. 105 × 68 metres.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emirates_Stadium
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_Nou
Arsenal is no Inter, mate. And Arsene won’t play the defensive strategy that Jose did. Lots of space will be exposed in Nou Camp’s large pitch and 80,000 fans will be there to intimidate Wenger’s young and relatively inexperienced kids.
The next game in Camp Nou will be INTEEEREEESSTTIIIIINGGGG!!!
Hehe, fans in Barcelona are really quiet, even during big games, openness of the Nou Camp also doesn’t help acoustically, so no, 80000 Barcelona’s fans won’t make any effect on guys who play regularly against Manchester or Liverpool.
Really? Did you see how crazy the crowd was when Barcelona trashed Madrid by five goals to nil? Without doubt, the Real Madrid players were hugely intimidated.
I think Arsenal was quite lucky tonight in that after they conceded the goal they were very desperate to press the Barca midfield for some 10-15 minutes and the interval came for their rescue. A few very good opportunities during that spell were wasted by Barca because of timing mistakes (i.e. offside – although Messi’s is quite debatable) by Barca’s forwards and again during those minutes Barca looked playing exactly the same way they had started the game last year at Emirates (very fluid ball movement – even some backheels) because of this lack of pressing on Arsenal’s side, who also looked playing exactly the same way as in last year’s game. However, after the break Arsenal came back into the game but this time with their will to press the Barca midfield, which changed the things on the pitch slowly imho. What a wonderful night it should be for Arsenal fans! What a comeback!
In my opinion this loss had nothing to do with tactics. Our players have to take responsibility. This was an absolute disgraceful performance from some of our star playeers, mainly Iniesta, Pique and in the 2nd half Messi. They showed no will and no attitude.
This was not Barcelona today, that were players in our away kits who looked like our players but did not play like them (with exception from Xavi and Abidal)
Cheer up I didn’t think they were that bad.
Very harsh words indeed. However I do understand what you are getting at. I felt that some of the Barca players lost focus and concentration in the 2nd half.
Hey mate, Barca still dominated Arsenal for the majority of the game, the difference was that Barca seemed to think that the game was over after 75 minutes, and alse gre tired, while Arsenal never quit pressing.
Great game and great spirit shown by Arsenal. It will go down into history as one of the great Arsenal victories, regardless of the Camp Nou result.
Everyone has an off day, and real fans don’t trash their team like that, especially when a team’s been as fantastic as Barca all season. Buck up, kid.
Jack Wilshere was different gravy tonight, with 2 midfields consisting of fabregas, iniesta, xavi, busquets, you outplayed the lot of them!
Hopefully the hatchet job that Alex Song was sent out to do tonight means that Wenger will stop moaning. We can hope.
Oh come, you know as well as I Wenger never sends out a player to do a hatchet job. Even though he needs to.
But I do agree he moans sometimes, but which top coach doesn’t.
What hatchet job? I didn’t see the incident.
I’m torturing myself reading all the comments and reviews after the game, but I just can’t stop :p. Barcelona have themselves to blame. It was a very even match, and with better finishing, the match could have been 3-3. Advantage Arsenal, but I’m expecting a come back! My main concern now is for the players to get the minds off this game and concentrate on La Liga.
Pedro wasn’t very good, but he tried hard – like always. Valdes should have done better. Messi’s finishing was bad. I wonder what Afellay could have done tonight… I know he isn’t fully adapted, but for some reason I imagined him doing well in this match if he got the chance. I think Pedro should have gone off instead of Villa, and Afellay should have come on. We learned last season that relaxing against Arsenal is never the best idea.
This game was more like walking on the ice. Either of the teams could’ve collapsed very easily, I mean. From Barcelona’s perspective, they missed a couple of good chances, and could’ve taken advantage of Song’s yellow card. Imagine Messi scored the first chip-in. The game would’ve been Barca’s pace as usual. They showed their tikitakka performance but couldn’t score more. This was the beginning of danger – mainly because it was an away game. After allowing Van Persie’s goal, the game became completely different. The atmosphere was incredible.
Arsenal deserved the win. Jack Wilshere was impeccable. I don’t remember any of his mistakes in terms of passing. Showed off a great potential. Very promising for England football.
It’s amazing how little I noticed Iniesta and Xavi. I don’t remember Xavi doing anything of note. That, to me, speaks volumes.
Agreed. It is extremely rare that Xavi is kept quiet. I’ve seen Messi kept quiet more often than Xavi not getting his assists.
Agreed too,
Even though, the win of Arsenal is somehow lucky in regards of the very few clear chances they had before their goal and the numerous one-on-one Barca had, I have been disappointed by Barca midfield tonite.
The ball was not going fast, Xavi has not mastered the game by giving it its usual tempo. I have not seen Iniesta the whole game. Whether it is all about Arsenal pressing or because Barca is currently in a low form, I dont really know, but I had the feeling that they were not as quick as usual, making them less accurate in the last pass or shot (especially Alves and Messi).
Another thing, I have really found Barca game not creative tonight. They have very cleverly used the long ball over the defense and broke through Arsenal central defense in first half, but the rest of their attacks were not as intutive as usual. Villa on the right side on the picth meant they have not used at all that side and the game was somehow packed on the left.
I am wondering whether Villa in the centre of the front 3, and Messi playing from the left would have given them more options.
Anyway, all of this means Arsenal had a great defensive game, it means as well that I wonder how Barca can win the Champions because of the lack of depht of their bench and lack of options to change a game. Etoo is still missing there.
Hehehehe. So few clear chances that Robin van Persie blasted wide or high. So lucky for Arsenal. Barca had 3 or 4 chances this game, and Arsenal had at least 10, but you keep telling yourself that nonsense. Maybe if you say it often enough, it will become true.
Yeah I agree, “numerous” one-on-one’s? I counted two for Barcelona. Arsenal also had at least one and there was some last ditch defending needed from Barcelona on more than one occasion.
Great result for Arsenal. As some others have mentioned the Barcelona substitutions were very surprising. Kieta for villa…it seemed like Barca were content to simply maintain their lead by keeping the ball. Iniesta was largely disappointing and Messi faded as the match wore on. All in all Barca brought this defeat upon themselves, being both wasteful in front of goal and a tad too conservative. I expect a much better performance at the Camp Nou.
Yes, Keita for Villa was definitely to keep possession and close the game out, I have no doubt about it. It wasn’t a bad tactic, perhaps a tad risky with only a goal up, but Guardiola is probably comfortable with 1-1 or 1-2.
you are the only guy here at zonalmarking who truly knows football. all the people here making comments have no clue and i don’t know if they are really watching the game.
The switch came however to early in my opinion.
At the time of the switch Barca were dictating the game.
And the switch itself was a strange one as well.
Villa was the only one that got on the score sheet and looked much more threatening than Pedro all night.
Lucky.
Thats the way yo describe this match.
Tactics were not that important. Both teams knew each other way too well.
Barca even repeated the same mistake of last year of slowing down the temp way way too much after 65the minute onwards.
Players made OR broke this match.
Messi’s horrible miss.
Legit goal that was given offside.
VanPersie suddenly hitting a blinder when throughout the match he was hitting the stands.
Horrendous judgment by Valdes.
Inter were lucky last year at Camp Nou, Arsenal were in 1st leg this year.
Lightning won’t strike at the same place twice.
“VanPersie suddenly hitting a blinder when throughout the match he was hitting the stands.”
One could say Barça were the lucky ones, then.
Or one could say Arsenal was lucky because of last night’s disposition of Messi
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Every team that get positive result against Barcelona is lucky….
Sound like 5 years old nagging for me.
When those “positive result” as you call it happen less than 5 time a year, it sort of is lucky you see.
Why do people keep bringing up the disallowed Messi goal?
Messi is initially onside when he sets up Villa, but at the moment Villa shoots Messi is clearly offside. So after Szczęsny makes the save, Messi is not eligible to touch the ball, which he did – therefore, offsides.
A fine call by the linesman, but for some reason people are still debating this even after clear TV replays.
The legit goal was clearly offside, after Pedro (onside) had shot at Sczcesny, the ball rebounded of him to Messi who was in front of him. Correct decision.
No. Messi was at least a yard onside, look at the still frams further up.
That said Arsenal did put in a really good performance and maybe deserved their bit of luck.
It’s not lucky that Barca runs out of gas after 65 minutes of furious pressing against Arsenal. It’s standard operating procedure, fully to be expected. Could’ve been up by more than 1 or 2 in both matches, didn’t take their chances, and paid the price.
Guardiola’s strategy is to assert their superiority, then see the match out. It depends on good finishing, and if it’s lacking, can backfire.
Wow. Come to a tactics site after a fantastic game to whine about sour grapes? Really?
I expect longer article for this game. And one thing, is it the first ZM writing (about Barca of course) that I don’t see any word “Busquets” in it?
A shout out to Le prof. Wenger capitalized on Guardiola’s thin bench. He had no substitute for Villa. Bojan is good when Barca is ahead by a pile of goals and Affelay is not there yet. Keita was a bad move. His style contributed nothing to this game. Barca didn’t need a hard man, they needed more creativity and Pep got it wrong. In the future I would love to see what zonal marking has to say about Arsenal’s 4-2-4 formation.
Some cules are also saying Barca were tired. They may very well have had a lot of games lumped together recently but Arsenal hasn’t played less than two games a week, often with only two days rest, since december. Plus Arsenal’s players didn’t get to go to the beach like the Barca players did. But, as predicted they droped off and Arsenal capitalized just like they did against Chelsea in December.
The guy saying how shit Messi was should pull out the SA 2010 DVD’s and look at how poor Argentina did when Maradona resused to play someone who Messi could link up with. In fact, when I saw Messi collecting the ball in the center line, miles and miles away from Arsenal’s goal, I got flashbacks of Germany v Argentina and I started to feel more confident about Arsenal’s chances of winning this game. So no. Messi wasn’t lacking heart or desire. Arsenal and Koscielny especially did a good job of looking after him. If Messi was so shit he wouldn’t have exploited that little blip in Arsenal’s defense which led to Barca’s goal. Let’s leave it at that.
Van Persie’s goal was cheeky. He zombified Valdes and executed him on his near post. Takes great, big rhino balls to do what he did under such circumstances. What an awesome player.
Arshavin’s goal was spot on too. Nasri’s beautiful run ended up in a beautiful pass with his left which rolled just right into Arshavin’s path. Arshavin only had to pass it home. Despite the simplicity of the play, however, he still managed to tuck it under Keita in such a way that it was never going to be a miss. The ball was put very close to the center of the goal. Awesome goal for the, hopefully, back in form Russian bear.
I like all of Bracelona’s players except one. I can not stand Busquets. Clutching at his face every time an Arsenal player came close to him. What a poor sports man. Cesc and Wilshere finished the game waltzing around the cheating idiot. Did anyone see when he dove to try to get Song red carded in the first half?
All in all it was a sweet game. Thanks to both sides for showing us their art. Barca is indeed a good team. They were very worthy opponents tonight. I have no doubt the game at the Camp Nou is going to be one for the history books.
I wonder if maybe against this variant of Barcelona a 3-man defense a lá King Kenny’s Liverpool would work? Villa and Pedro play so narrow that they don’t really need to be picked up by the full backs, and we’ve seen now that leaving Messi to the defensive midfielders will work, particularly because he plays most of his passes in that zone anyway. Essentially he’s playing the same role Anelka did for Chelsea; a false-nine pulled back into a supporting striker role. Based on the diagram above Barcelona were almost a 4-4-2 diamond, rather reminiscent of Chelsea. Granted, Arsenal don’t have the center-backs they would need for this, but both Eboue and Sagna are capable of playing as wingbacks (Eboue even on the left) and natural defenders would do a better job defensively (on Alves and Maxwell/Abidal) than wingers ever will. This would mean Arsenal miss out on Walcott’s pace on the right, although as an impact sub he could torture a tired Abidal in the second leg, and he could potentially come on as a center forward to really take advantage of balls over the top. Could they play Gibbs-Djorou-Koscielny; Song; Clichy-Nasri-Wilshere-Sagna; Fabregas; Van Persie, as a 3-1-5-1, with a diamond midfield? Or could Diaby play as a DM, with Song as a sweeper?
You can’t really expect three centrebacks to deal with Villa-Messi-Pedro.
What a game to a neutral to watch! So much collective skill on the pitch, good tempo and both sides really going at it. I can barely wait for the secong leg, and see how Arsenal cope with Camp Nou.
And thanks to ZM (again) for your analysis, excellent stuff as always.
PS. What an amazing player for Arsenal/England is that Wilshere kid going to be.
Arsenal sort of did this in the second half. With Alvez getting forward Nasri, and later Arshavin, would track him all the way even with his defense, and Clichy would pinch in closer to the CB’s to mark one of Pedro or Messi, whoever was there. On the other side Maxwell was usually passed on to Eboue, and Walcott would slide centrally in the midfield as they approached Arsenal’s penalty area.
The players didn’t always find this positioning, their defense was still pretty fluid, but it happenned regularly enough in the second half that I think it was instructed by Wenger during halftime. Kind of an asymmetric 5-3-1-1 when close to their goal, but they would defend as a 4-2-4-0 when the ball was in Barca’s half.
what is Wilshere’s passing completion rate?
91%
Having just watched the extended highlights again, Arsenal had some let offs, to be sure – but Arsenal were always dangerous as well. For me, this was a much more even match than last year’s Emirates tie, where Arsenal genuinely WERE lucky to come out of the game with a 2-2 draw.
Another thing that struck me is as much as Arsenal is compared to Barcelona stylistically and tactically, I don’t think that Arsenal plays THAT similarly. Arsenal in this game at least played a classic counter-attacking game, much like the Wenger teams of the 02-04 vintage.
BTW, Barcelona is actually very vulnerable once you force them to defend inside their own half.
Yeah, it was very interesting to see the differences between the way the two sides play. Arsenal rely a lot more on width, expanse and pace. But the fundamental philosophy remains similar.
The worst thing that an Arsenal fan can do its underrating Barcelona, it was a nice win by Arsenal, for sure, but Barça had a bad day yesterday, a litte bit of bad luck plus Messi failing goals that he never fails… I think that 2 – 2, 2 – 3, or maybe 1 – 3, could have been fair results too.
I like to remember that vs Lyon and vs Stuttgart, both were ugly matches for Barcelona ( 1 – 1), but the second match in Camp Nou result in a 5 – 2 and a 4 – 0… I think that Barcelona will literaly eat Arsenal at 8th March. Messi will have the similar goal chances that yesterday, and for that time he’s gonna score it.
The goal is totally onside, 0 – 2 on the half would change many things, but I don’t think that Barcelona needs to claim about the ref, they are probably the best team ever, and they are going to demonstrate why on the Camp Nou.
Arsenal is a very nice team, but they lack many things, I don’t think that Djourou – Kolscieny – Szcezeny are ready to cope Barcelona on 100% of his potential (yesterday, in my opinion were at 70%, Alves and Messi seems to be tired) and RVP its a irregular player, nowadays it is on a brilliant phisycal form, but the match its on 3 weeks, many things could chance.
I think that needs to be mentioned, is Eric Abidal, he made an astonishing match. Any doubt that is he a TOP defender ???
I’m a Barcelona fan, and I was sad about the defeat, but its a pleasure to see matches like this, football total, more important attacking that defending, I think that everybody is tired of Mourinho and Capellos’s dirty wins with the bus parked in front of the area.
“I’m a Barcelona fan, and I was sad about the defeat, but its a pleasure to see matches like this, football total, more important attacking that defending, I think that everybody is tired of Mourinho and Capellos’s dirty wins with the bus parked in front of the area.”
Word. Props for this sentiment. For complaining about the offsides and making the “Barca are tired” excuse, less so. Players on both teams went deep into the World Cup and have played tons of matches this year. One team dealing with fatigue better than the other is all in the game. Also, if Pep used his bench (in la liga Maschrano’s started 8 games, Keita’s started 8 games, Adriano’s started 4, Bojan’s started 4, Milito 3; no starts for Jeffren, Dos Santos or Thiago according to http://www.football-lineups.com/team/Barcelona/La_Liga_2010-2011/Analysis/) maybe his players wouldn’t be tired.
Only a Barcafan will go out three weeks before a game against one of the best in Europe say that his team “eat” the other team. An early goal for Arsenal and Barca will start to wobble…
These guys never failed to me… they always give all in an important match… and I like to remember that Arsenal is the team that was winning 0 – 4 to Newcastle… Shall I continue? They are a very good team, but not enough to beat Barcelona (nowadays).
a couple of things…i thot mascherano was bought precisely for games like this..a tired midfield of barca holding a pacy countrattacking team.would have been better suired to come on than keita.
also everyone saying walcott had a bad game but maxwell was really nervous playing against him n just him being on the pitch mean barca were scared ofleavibg gaps in behind which seemed to have affected their pressing game.
also maxwell is such an obvious weakness that barcelona havenot corrected since last season.2 goals for inter last season n arsenals second tonite have cime from.his side.they need to acquire a good quality lb..evra\coentrao
If Pep drops Busquets for Mascherano he’d lose the type of passing which helps Barcelona bring the ball out from the back. And if he brings Mascherano in for Pedro then Messi and Villa will be marked out of the game, since Pedro’s movement draws defenders away from them. The key man is Villa. If Villa can stay fresh when Arsenal face them next, then he’ll mark the difference. If he has to play a lot of games between now and then, as I’m sure he will since Barca’s lead was shrunk a bit last week-end and they face a few tricky fixtures between now and the second leg, then I think Arsenal will win it late like they did today.
I think that the Busquets – Pique option as CB could be the more reasonable, you have two CB with ball passing and Abidal (and his amazing phsyical form) as a LB to cope with Walcott… btw, Maxwell had good details yesterday.
Pique is suspended for the next leg.
I was referring to the first match mate
One thing that struck me was Walcott. Maxwell was playing high up – higher than Alves, and Walcott could not take advantage of this. He had space to run in but his passes never reached their proper destination. Only after he left did Arsenal equalise. For Arsenal’s second, if Walcott was still on the pitch it would have been him racing through not Nasri and I’m sure Walcott would end up giving the wrong pass in the box. Nasri’s pass to Arshavin was wonderful, don’t think Walcott can do that.
Two great goals? Goalkeeping errors, both of them.
The first one perhaps, but the second one wasn’t. Valdes is moving to the right and BAM the shot hits the lowerleft corner. Almost impossible to change direction.
Spot on. Valdes did not even try to make a save.
The first may have been, but it was nonetheless very well taken – and Van Persie was taking advantage of his error on purpose (I believe), which is a distinction from just happening to benefit from him error. And the second goal wasn’t really an error, he was blindsighted and on the wrong foot. Arshavin knew exactly what he was doing.
What difference does it make whether they were goalkeeping errors or not? Both were well taken shots and were great goals.
Tonight revealed something about Barcelona’s pressing game. Because it’s very uneven across the pitch, i.e. they all go towards the man with the ball to cut off his options, if you can pass it quickly and accurately in tight areas (and few teams can, hence why it rarely gets noticed) lots of space will suddenly open up because you can cut out 4/5 players very quickly. Wilshere (who was the best player out there), Fabregas and Nasri all did this excellently.
I thought defensively Arsenal looked a bit weak and relied on some excellent last ditch stuff from the defence and goalkeeper to get them out of trouble. They left too much space between midfield and defence because Song and Wilshere pushed too high up to get at the likes of Xavi but forgot that Messi just drops into that space all the time. And especially in the first half Nasri failed to pick up Alves when he came forward.
The subs made a big difference – the Barcelona one left them without a real running threat in behind with Pedro subdued – Messi may be great but he can’t play the pass and run onto it.
Second leg will be interesting, I expect Song especially and also Wilshere to sit deeper and try to cut off the space for Messi in that gap because although Arsenal will always attack, they don’t need to try and force it so they can sit deeper a bit more and play on the counter.
Just one point i wanted to make. IMO for all of Walcott’s attacking threat i think he started because of his DEFENSIVE ability. He played deep and massively helped Eboue out. While Barca may have concentrated on how to stop him, what he really did was stop them. I think it was a little tactical nous missed by many.
i dont think his defending is that great to be honest, but his high energy levels and desire to prove a point allow him to track back whenever needed…still, not much his presence/doubling up with eboue that stopped barcelona from playing
Arsenal are not a Barca Lite. Although both teams have a similar preference to playing the ball on the ground to feet, there is a significant difference in approach.
Barca’s passes, as they go through the process of engineering an opening, are generally 2-5 meters in length with players finding space very close to the player in possession to provide the outlet and continuity. When the triangles and 1-2s create the opening, then they pass in behind the defensive line for the runners coming through.
Arsenal may play a few short passes, particularly in and around both areas, but generally the player in space is a lot further away from the ball carrier requiring longer passes of 10-20 meters.
What does this mean? The tempo of Arsenal’s transition from defence to attack should be a lot quicker as the ball moves faster than the man and so gives them the opportunity (as with Fabregas to Nasri for 2nd goal) to turn Barca around very quickly. If Arsenal tried to slow to a Barca pace, Barca’s pressing would generate quick turnover as Arsenal players aren’t as practiced at keep-ball as the Barca team.
For the second leg, quick tempo and passes that stretch the field, in width and up the middle, would seem to offer not only the best attacking opportunity but potentially a lower risk approach than trying to play keep-ball with Barca.
Barca of course have a fairly formidable option 2 – pass to Messi and let him run at the opposition sucking in defs and dms to create the space elsewhere for Villa/Pedro. Walcott is, on occasion, a “Messi Lite”, but of course is someway off having the smarts and technical skills of the world’s best player to be a consistent option 2.
if i was you, i’d repent on the sin that is your last paragraph
There is hope for the boy yet! However….. Messi is heading for (if he’s not already there) one of the 10 best footballers ever. Theo might (here’s hoping) become one of the 10 best English players ever (20 goals and 20 assists a season for five years would get him close). (Messi has 43 goals and 9 assists for Villa alone this season and it’s only 2/3’s done!!)
ZM, am i right in saying that Arsenal last night resembled Joachim Lowe’s germany team, particularly when they were attacking? The football is the same, equally pleasing to watch but more direct and less ornate than the style barcelona employs ( which i guess should not be so surprising considering their formations are broadly similar).
IMO, Arsenal were capable of resisting the Barca pressing and then open up the pitch for the counterattack (as Daniel H stated at 8:50 am). Germany, in the WC game against Spain, could not keep the ball in a similar way.
There were various occasions, when Barca was close to capture the ball in Arsenals half of the pitch, but Wilshire did an extraordinary job and suddenly there was space again. Till yesterday I thought that Schweinsteiger is currentyl state-of-the-art, but Wilshire rocks!
I’d strongly agree with you there, with the exception that Arsenal did much better than Germany, via better courage/morale, and better technically so not losing the ball too easily. Especially Wilshere/Song were ‘better than’ Khedira/Schweini, but also vPersie is maybe better than Klose and Fabregas better than Oezil. On the wings Walcott is pretty much a Podolski and Nasri maybe a Mueller.
ZM, Barcelona was never above average yesterday, whereas Arsenal looked double motivated. But for the first time, I see Pep making a defensive minded substitution with only a single goal lead. Never has he done that before and that was an error. Also Valdes judged it very poorly for the first goal. Arsenal was brilliant in the last 25 minutes or so.
I thought the disallowed goal from Messi was a very unlucky bad call. Messi is out of his form since the Xmas break. Still he created one, had one disallowed and nearly missed one which he would convert 8/10 times. Arsenal put lot of attention on him. Others who had really average game otherways were Dani Alves, Maxwell, Pedro and Walcott.
This is something Wenger does often. He instructs his players to allow the RB to cheat in and then expolits the space left by the RB.
I’m surprised nobody has mentioned Dani Alves’s positioning and Arsenal’s response to it. I know he plays almost like a winger but last night he was playing ludicrously high up and wide while Arsenal seemed at times to almost wilfully ignore him. It was as if Wenger took a gamble to let him stay isolated outside… I thought Nasri did a pretty poor job tracking him anyway, always getting dragged inside to defend Barca’s CMs. Maybe it was done intentionally?
I think Alves’s positioning really hurt him on the second goal. When the break started he was far enough from the run of play to not really try hard getting back to help out and Arshavin had the run of space a normal RB would have covered. So maybe 1 part laziness and 1 part “inappropriate” positioning?
ye, time and again Xavi would send the ball to an unmarked Alves on the right. it happened so often it looked absurd by the end of the night, but if that was Arsenal’s strategy, then it worked no? such a situation would only allow Alves to attack even more. in return, his position is exposed and Arsenal defend deeper in numbers to nullify his combination play with Messi, Pedro (surprisingly dull game for him) and Xavi. sometimes i doubt Wenger’s tactical decisions, but he got it right this time
Have to agree, couldn’t count the number of times Clichy just packed in with the centre-backs and let Alves run three-quarters of the pitch. Not sure what he could have done. The centre was extremely congested and Arsenal did well (and had the luck) on several occasions to scramble the ball away. Him cutting inside would pit him against Koscielny, who is excellent at blocking one-on-ones.
Perhaps Villa was also key to this, in that the defensive four tilted to their right to close off space for him. Taking him off seemed to push an exceptional amount of pressure on Barcelona’s central players and narrowed Xavi’s passing options.
I think also one part extreme fatigue from running up and down the entire pitch for ninety minutes. Usually Barca keep the ball in the opposing half for enough of the match where he only has to make runs back occasionally, but with Arsenal attacking with pace, he had to sprint back more often than usual. Couple that with his attacking runs in behind the Arsenal defence and I’m not surprised he didn’t have the energy to sprint after a fresh Arshavin for the second goal.
This analysis is completely different to mine! (Though, for better or worse, I discounted the first 20-odd minutes because 1) the game hadn’t settled and 2) my baby son was distracting me!
Anyway, I thought in the first half that Arsenal left too many gaps in between the lines and that the full backs were too wide but this isn’t mentioned here.
Rectifying that problem and removing Song and putting Nasri in the centre, helped Arsenal change the course of the game:
http://www.sweetleftfoot.com/2011/02/tactical-analysis-arsenal-v-barcelona.html
I think Barcelona’s goal was heavily influenced by Tsong’s yellow card. He couldn’t get as aggresive on Messi as he would have wanted and that left him with more space than otherwise preferred to give the pass. I’m suprised Arsene left him on.
The Barca sub was clearly a huge error. It was probably in direct response to Arsharvin coming on. I also disagree with the whole ‘Barca have not plan B’ nonsense but I do believe that some of their squad players are not ‘dangerous’ in an Arsharvin type-way.
However, the key reason for Barcelona’s demise last night was a complete lack of late-game marking/tracking back and general defensive responsibility. It would be tempting to put this down to arrogance (which there definitely exists with Barca) but i’m not so sure.
My (probably nonsense) reasons for the win.
1. Playing against an attack-minded team with pace.
Barca are a rather slow team but due to their compact nature this usually doesn’t matter. It does however when a team effectively has 4 forwards on the field – and Barca simply can’t or won’t sit back.
2. Song stayed on the pitch. He really diced with death for the entire game, could easily have been sent off by such a poor referee,but actually made what I call ’sensible fouls’ throughout the game.
3. We changed our game, they didn’t.
Arsenal play a high line in almost every game. So do barca. Both teams don’t like playing against teams who sit back.
We adapted better and for longer to counter our opponent than they did.
4. Luck.
Luck will always play an important part. Barca had a legitimate goal chalked off and we happened to take one more of our ’should-be-goal-scoring’ chances. Games like these will always be decided by around 10 or so ‘key moments’.
5. Psychology
Arsharvin’s very presence forced Alves (who had a poor game and who I believe is overrated) back, gave us width on the left and streched Barca. Taking off Villa and bringing on Kieta actually seemed to give Fab and Willy more space in the Barca midfield.
6. Maxwell and Koscielny.
Maxwell – Just because Walcott is off the pitch doesn’t mean you have to stop defending.
Koscielny – Marking 2 men, made the right choices to intercept and pass.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vl3jgy0fKrI&hd=1
Messi’s goal was Legit (even after 2nd Pedro rebound), download it in 720p and do a frame by frame analysis for those who still don’t believe.
I know its part of the game, so shouldn’t be complaining too much but it should not be brushed over like many are doing and esp. the commentators, and many others in discussions about the match.
Messi was at fault the most on the night though, he should have finished the easiest of the chances of either team early on.
The video stops at the wrong time. He was offside.
See my post at 6:02am
I have. Watching the natural footage is the best thing – if anything it looks like it might take a double hit off Pedro, maybe off his foot then his upper body. When it touches him the last time Messi was in an offside position. A photograph doesn’t cut it and this debate proves how difficult the decision was but that linesman was exceptional throughout.
If you want footage, see Greeko’s response then, that should definitely prove Messi was onside.
BTW, I’m an Arsenal fan, and I was very pissed off after the Everton and Newcastle refereeing. It’s only so just to acknowledge when the ref/linesmen errs in our favour.
Oops it’s the same video, dumb me.
That video pauses a second too early and the angle is crap – our perception of it isn’t right (look at the lines on the pitch). The camera used on the ITV replay is more level and he looks more offside than on that video. I wonder if we were exactly level on pitchside (or where the linesman is) Messi might look more offside. It’s hard to tell exactly when the ball comes off Pedro.
You might be right. Messi probably deserves the benefit of the doubt. Really tough decision though.
In a single sentence… Barcelona will eat Arsenal on 8th March.
and what will Barca’s defensive line look like without Pique, hmm?
Last year, Barcelona won 4 – 1 with Marquez and Milito as CB, without Andres Iniesta (Keita was in) and Bojan as starter… I think that Barça could eat without Piqué..
We were without our best striker, best midfielder, Gallas, Arshavin and Song if I remember rightly. Even had to play Silvestre at CB. So don’t act like we were full strength either.
exactly
with him they look a shambles, so no change…
Will Pep risk an out of form Milito for the now suspended Pique? Surely Abidal has to play at left back after Maxwell’s frailties were exposed for the second year running. (at the same ground!) He really should have started with Busquets at CB, Abidal at LB with Masch holding; or at least opted for it if the plan was to keep ball after the hour mark. Keita could even have positioned himself on the left hand side to cover the space Maxwell was leaving as he’s done before.
Firstly,what a great game of football,after last years first leg,who thought we could get even more drama from this fixture! But anyways,Arsenal i feel deserved the win..just though (they were due a win against Barca).
After a nervous start from the Arsenal back 4,i feel in the 2nd half they really did step up,Koscielny and Djourou were fantastic,and the full backs seemed to redeem themselves after notably losing possession sloppily in the first half in particular! Clichy was doubled up on alot,and this was evident in the first half,for me,D.Alves was the man of the first half,he caused all kinds of problems,reminisent of last years game!
Song had a good game,but was on a tightrope after his yellow card,but him,and Wilshere were very disciplined,it was a mature performance by them,strangley for Barca,Iniesta didnt really make too many runs forward,he was more of a “standard” Centre Midfielder (to me anyway). Fabregas,put in a good effort,and played a part in closing down the space when he could,but Walcott was fantastic with his defensive duties,credit to him for a great season so far. Nasri,although not fully fit,played a good role,and his assist for Arshavins goal was fantastic.
Barca played a great game,but seemed to switch off,Villa coming off seemed odd,he was playing off the last defender,and Arsenals defenders seemed wary of him. Most surprisingly,Barca didnt really “go for it”,until with a couple mins left. Last but not least,Barca received no yellow cards? Hmm! Credit to Arsenal,Both goals were brilliant,and played a very good game against an accomplised Barca team,2nd leg however,Arsenal must raise their game once again i feel! Well done Gooners,after beating Chelsea at the Emirates earlier in the season,pressing them brilliantly throughout,and now this win against Barca,they could just have the impetus to finally win some Trophies,starting with the Carling Cup!
By the way,the pitch size at the Emirates and the Nou Camp is exactly the same,just to kill the myth of Barcas “Huge pitch” ! Ok im done.
Pique got a yellow for barca.
Arsenal had their luck, but that’s only 30%, they made up the other 70% for the win by hard working. Fab had plenty of mistakes yesterday, but maybe it’s because he is heavily marked. The long pass to Nasri before Arshavin goal is very good, showing what he was capable. Jack Wilshere was extraordinary, fantastic performance. He always plays the ball with head up, think before actually getting the ball. The young Polish goalie is brilliant too. Fabianski will have to fight for starting XI if Szcenzy keeps playing like this.
Sometimes I feel that because the overall quality across the first XI for Barca is so great, that Pep doesn’t need to be as tactically sound against most of the teams in Spain. I think this truly hurts him in the Champions’ League against top class opposition because he isn’t as used to being in very tight games where Barca isn’t up 3-0 or 4-1. He isn’t used to a dogfight.
Anyone got any idea what possession stats I should believe? Heard Arsenal had everything from 33 to 47%.
I think something to be said of Arsenal’s lack of possession and retention in the first half compared with the 2nd half. The arsenal fullbacks started to offer width in attack and allow for better possession and retention of the ball in the 2nd. Arsenal would be better off to hit wings with firmer passes and attack around instead of coming inside so much. Barcelona’s pressing was incredible in the first half, denying Arsenal any room to breath, with countless images of 3-4 Barca players around the ball. Attacking around instead of through would have stretched Barcelona’s shape more and allowed Arsenal to eventually break them down through the center.
Arsenal also needed to do a better job of committing numbers forward on counters and quicker too. The runs were often so late in joining that it was often the front 2 or 3 versus Barcelona’s back 5. Even on Asrhavin’s goal, the runs were late to join in and only RVP and Arshavin joined in. (Also must be said that RVP run opened up a neat channel for Nasri to play a disguised ball into Arshavin’s feet.)
Everyone here is commenting on how lucky Arsenal were with Messi’s barely offside goal and his early miss, but Barca were also lucky. They were severely helped out by two early bad calls: the ref whistling an advantage play dead in the first ten minutes (when Arsenal were dangerous) with Arsenal having advanced the ball almost to touch with Theo and RVP forward. Second the very soft yellow on Song and the continual pressure he received from the ref. Also, it would have been VERY easy for the linesman to have (wrongly) ruled Villa’s goal offside.
Arsenal were really hurt by RVP’s poor form early, but “lucky” in that Wilshire played out of his mind. The big question is whether or not he can repeat his performance in two weeks.
Let’s see here…
The first call you complain about was whistled dead because the Arsenal player receiving the pass was offside, so the ref brought it back to the original foul because no advantage had accrued. I guess you’d rather have Barca have the free kick from the offside?
And the card for Song was completely justified, it was a professional foul only designed to stop Messi running down the center of the pitch in full flight. Unless you fall into the camp that believes any foul in the first ten of fifteen minutes is permissible, I can’t see how you, or anyone else, can complain about it. If anything, I think Song committed five more fouls during the match and could count himself fortunate that he didn’t pick up a second before Wenger realized that and brought him off.
Arsenal fans…
Sorry, that sounds harsher than I intended. But I still think both the points you brought up were wrong. And if anything, Barca could have easily had two penalties: first when Djourou handled on the same play Messi’s goal was disallowed, and second when Arshavin handled in the last minutes when trying to cut out the ball over the top to Alves. Both could have been given, and the Arshavin one should have been give.
Arshavin’s hand was not extended when the ball hit it, and the ball hit it straight off his head. I don’t think that can be called a handball.
Bendtner was offside for van Persie’s goal.
At the moment Clichy passed forward to van Persie, Bendtner was in an offside position, and he continued running forward to the goal. If Valdes adopted a bad position because he was concerned that van Persie would cross to Bendtner, then Bendtner was interfering with play. The goal ought to have been disallowed.
Ahem, let me refer you to this…
http://www.zonalmarking.net/2010/12/15/offside-goal/
Ah – thank you. I see my understanding of offside is out of date
Decent game, not as exciting as last year in my opinion, but a good game none the less.
I don’t think Arsenal were great, Barcelona were completely controlling the game, and Arsenal got a goal that Valdes should really have saved in my opinion, and then a goal on the counter attack, having said that, so what, they won the game, and Arsenal are the kind of team that will always be criticised for not winning games when they aren’t playing there best, and yesterday, I don’t think they did play there best, but still won. Credit for that.
I thought Koscielny had a very good game. I’ve never rated Vermaelen, mainly for the reasons highlighted in ZM’s article, and I really don’t think he should get back. Arsenal are a better team without him, this season proves this, and not only is Djourou developing into a very good player, he’s got a very good partnership with Kos. Both are quite similar in my opinion, both are quick, both reasonably strong, and both very good in the air, but both are comfortable bringing the ball out from the back, all good attributes. Also, I haven’t really read the comments, I’m sure people have commented on Wilshire. I don’t think it was as good as some people have made out, but it was still impressive, kept the ball very well, and dribbled well also.
I still fancy Barcelona for the 2nd leg, there 2/7 on with Sky Bet which I thought was slightly short odds, but I can’t see Arsenal going to Barcelona and doing a Mourinho and parking the bus, when that is exactly what they have to do, regardless of the players they have.
“I can’t see Arsenal going to Barcelona and doing a Mourinho and parking the bus, when that is exactly what they have to do, regardless of the players they have.”
Is that really what Arsenal should do? A 1-0 victory for Barcelona — something that was capable against a vastly superior Inter Milan team on defense — puts them through on away goals. Mourinho’s advantage was the two (well, really one and a half) goal cushion that allowed him to sit back and dare Barcelona to wade through the muck. Not only does Arsenal not have the personnel to play to a scoreless draw in the Nou Camp, it’s perhaps impossible that no European side can hold them scoreless at home, outside of a post-World Cup fluke.
Yeah, but inter did it with ten men after the disgrace which was the biscuits dive.
although it has little to do with tactics, i thought the best part of the match for me was the battle between nasri and alves. both are great players with pace and skill, but who also can get nasty (and i mean that in the best way.) there were some great confrontations, it went from the shoulder-to-shoulder physical to the sublime (i’m thinking of nasri’s baseline run here.) no love lost between those two, and made for a dramatic show.
I think what made this game so tactically intersting, and so dramatic to watch, was that Arsenal chose to “walk the high wire” and take the play to Barcelona, probably knowing that they would be just one small mistake from disaster (e.g. Villa’s goal). It was like a chess match where Black ignores White’s attack and instead chooses to attack on their own on the opposite side of the board. And I think it was the right call, and win or lose will be the right call for Wenger in the 2nd leg as well.
A few observations:
- Big factor was Song coming out in the 2nd half and staying out of further trouble (he was playing with fire in the 1st half clearly). I am sure that one of Wenger’s calculations on the timing of the sub was how long he could trust Song to stay in without picking up a 2nd yellow.
- I admit that I have not followed a lot of EPL recently, and so I was not really familiar with Wilshere’s game. That young man has a very bright future and Martin Tyler’s statement that Wilshere would not look out of place in the Barcelona midfield was spot on. If I were the next England coach I would be figuring out how to build a team around that kid. I thought MOTM by far.
- Arshavin goal was not flashy, but still absolutely brilliant. Most players miss that shot by trying to clobber the ball. Nasri and Arshavin played it perfectly.
- Speaking as a neutral, this match did not disappoint. The atmosphere by the Arsenal fans made the match electrifying to watch. And I don’t think you can dismiss the result as Barcelona “failing” as some seem to suggest – I think Arsenal poses some real problems for Barcelona that Guardiola is going to have to figure out. Just relying on the home field, emotion, “passion” etc to carry them through in the 2nd leg will be a mistake.
Fantastic win for Arsenal.. Now, can they do an Inter in Nou camp ? Probably no.. Also, they are not 3-1 up but only 2-1. So, they have to score.. Here they can take lessons from Inter.. Van persie need to do a Milito as in the CL final last year.. convert shots to goals, because they;ll get very less opportunities.
First, they need to start exceptionally well and not concede at least for 25 minutes.. defend deep but leave walcott and van persie higher up.. ask Nasri to track alves which he did exceptionally well yesterday..
Next, drop fabregas.. He looked like he doesnt have the hunger or the energy to press like others in the team.. he slows down the game also.. yes, he assisted the goal, but apart from that he lost the ball so many times and in crucial times also.. He didnt press well too.. Use him as a substitute if a goal is needed later on.. like in the WC final..
Defensively, they have to defend deep or it will be foolish otherwise.. like giving the game to barcelona on a plate.. Watch the Hercules game early in the season and the Copenhagen game on how to thwart the build up play and the attacks.. Song is needed here very much and he has to keep his cool.. Both him and Wilshere are THE most important players for the next leg… May be bring in another defensive minded midfielder instead of fabregas who will anyhow be not useful in Barcelona atleast early on..
The only fully attack minded players on the pitch initially will be van persie and walcott.. But he has to play as a true winger instead of an inside forward.. dont cut in from flanks.. take on maxwell and try to cross. They have conceded 14 goals this season from wide plays.. Also, Piquet will be out due to yellow card.. that is a huge bonus for van persie.. I dont know if Puyol will be available..
Man mark Messi.. Arsenal dont have a Cambiasso or a Schweinsteiger, may be Song can do that.. Rest of the defense should take care of Pedro and Villa.. Wilshere was so good yesterday in the DM role.. If he maintain the same standard, they have a good chance of scoring goals, because barcelona is so poor in counter attacks.. Valdes hates 1 on 1s and even kicked the forwards out a couple of times this season (how come he was not red carded both times but casillas was ejected for a less threatening challenge ?) Same happened last year in Inter where barcelona lost the ball near Inter’s box and in 3 seconds, the ball was near the other side of the post where maicon bombed forward and scored the 2nd goal.. those are the chances that will fall to walcott and van persie.. they need to convert..
And finally, beware of Barcelona player’s acting skills.. Little push here and there, expect them to go down and act skilfully to get you sent off.. If Arsenal go down to 10, the game is virtually over.. They dont have the hunger and attitude of Inter to survive that.. Arsenal has to approach this game tactically instead of technically.. You dont win by technique against Barcelona in Nou camp.. it will be foolish to do so.. You dont get points for playing eye pleasing (for some) but stupid football.. Balance should be the key and the balance should be tilted towards defense this time..
I just can’t see Arsenal winning in the Nou Camp, simple as that. To beat them, you do what Inter did, you are incredibly disciplined, you are ultra defensive, Arsenal don’t have the players to do it, Wenger wouldn’t do it.
I could be wrong, but despite Arsenal’s improvements, I can see another comfortable win for Barcelona in Camp Nou.
They need not beat them.. They need to beat them in aggregate.. Thats why its so important to put them in pressure in first half and score atleast one goal to even the crucial away goal.. Bayern progressed last year solely through away goals till the semis..
1. “Next, drop fabregas.. He looked like he doesnt have the hunger or the energy to press like others in the team.. he slows down the game also.”
You went through the comments thread pushing this perspective. It sounds like you’re a Barca fan pretending to offer Arsenal sincere advice; the term for people offering bad advice like this is “concern troll.” Who would start in his place?
2. “Defensively, they have to defend deep or it will be foolish otherwise.. like giving the game to barcelona on a plate..”
No. This is ridiculous. (a) Arsenal won with a high line in the first game, and this is how they’re set up to play, so advising a complete switch of mentality is less than helpful. (b) Plenty of people have played deep against Barca and lost over the past couple years, this strategyu is not foolproof. (c) from a personal perspective, your advice sucks because as fans we want to watch a good game, not some park-the-bus garbage. Better to go out knowing you held to your principles than to compromise them and maybe still lose.
You are the types beacuse of whom Arsenal has not won anything for 6 years.. Its really funny how people praise a one-dimensional-no-planB-poorly-balanced teams like Barca and Arsenal. They may be so good at doing what they do best, but best teams adapt. They respond to situations. Not like mad chickens doing the same thing again and again even when the opponent’s tactics are completely against their type of play..
Best coaches change their tactics, respond to substitutions, ask Mourinho.. Guardiola looks like a lost kid when they are down.. Poor substitutions, poor tactics against defensive opponents, no plan B at all.. You are not great for what you are, but for what you achieve.. They may win against poor teams in La liga with such uni-dimensional tactics and play, but they’ll surely struggle against better organized teams..
Is it any wonder that they have not won a single away game in Europe in the knockout stage for last 3 years? Only reason they progress is because of the home games in the CL. Inter shut them down even there last year..
>> (a) Arsenal won with a high line in the first game, and this is how they’re set up to play,
They won it luckily.. the number of times villa and messi beat the defensive line is ridiculous.. In Nou camp, the score will be easily 4-0 or 5-0 if they do that.. Ask espanyol and real madrid..
>> so advising a complete switch of mentality is less than helpful.
This is where great teams win.. They need to be versatile and be able to play differently in different circumstances..
>> (b) Plenty of people have played deep against Barca and lost over the past couple years, this strategyu is not foolproof.
It may not be foolproof, but it at least gives you a cover.. better than committing a suicide..
>> (c) from a personal perspective, your advice sucks because as fans we want to watch a good game, not some park-the-bus garbage.
What a crap this so called park-the-bus thing spread viciously especially from last year’s CL semifinal match.. Barca will overload opposition half with players and drain the possession for them, but opposition should leave open spaces and allow them to score ??
Tactics plays a huge part in winning 2 legged games.. You gain home advantage and try to beat the opposition.. Exploiting opposition’s weaknesses is also a part of strategy.. Barca’s weakness is their defense.. and teams try to exploit that.. how does this automatically become negative ? Inter did the same last year.. they battered barca in san siro and took the advantage to nou camp.. If Barca could not win the game, it is their weakness and inability to open up the defense.. Funny how people blame Inter for playing superbly.. Biased hypocrites..
Barca weaknes is their defence? What are you talking about? Barca pressing game is best in World. They possesion game allows them to play pressing for entire time of the match. They defenders often get in one on one situations with attackers, and they wait, pull back to allow other players time to get back, buying time. If they lines are broken, forward players are instructed to get back till they won the ball back, there is no sitting and relaxing. Everybody plays defence and have defensive responsibilities. And so on…
I can point more examples if you like, but they play perfect pressing defence.
pressing is only one form of defence….yes they are superb at pressing, but they are incredibly easy to penetrate with a high line, and with a back 4 and keeper who look a shambles….the reason they dont concede 5 or 6 goals a game is because teams don’t get much time to test their defence due to their enormous possession. If you were to attack a barcelona team constantly for 60 minutes and return the ball to the attacking team every time they won it, they would concede a shocking amount of goals compared to other teams
>> If they lines are broken, forward players are instructed to get back till they won the ball back, there is no sitting and relaxing.
Is it ? Then what were they doing against Arsenal, Hercules, Copenhagen and Inter ? They are good at pressing, thats because they are so poor without the ball. Their positioning, tracking back and defensive discipline are pathetic. Guardiola himself said that they want to win back possession because they are awful without the ball. Their way of playing is actually covering up the flaws in their system and lack of balance.
1. “You are the types beacuse of whom Arsenal has not won anything for 6 years.”
First, the implication that Arsenal should be ashamed to “have not won anything” is absurd. There’s 20 teams in the EPL and 32 in the CL, so every team’s odds of winning are small each year; the expectation that teams win each year is (a) stupid and (b) mostly confined to soccer; in basketball, american football, or baseball people give their team props for playing a good season instead of complaining they didn’t win the championship, and this is a much healthier attitude for teams and supporters. Furthermore, the contention it’s *the fault of casual observers* that the professionals employed by Arsenal haven’t won anything is absurd on its face.
2. “Best coaches change their tactics, respond to substitutions, ask Mourinho.” you’re comparing Mourinho favorably to Guardiola? Did you not see el clasico?
3. “Only reason they progress is because of the home games in the CL. ” and yet progress they have, in every instance but one over the past two years.
4. “in Nou camp, the score will be easily 4-0 or 5-0 if they do that.. Ask espanyol” I couldn’t “ask Espanyol, but I did the next best thing, and judging from the writeup of that game here on ZM (http://www.zonalmarking.net/2010/12/19/espanyol-1-5-barcelona-tactics), Espanyol have done well using the pressing/high line strategy: “Their last three results against Barca had been a win, a draw and a defeat – and the defeat was a narrow 1-0″ before that shellacking they took this year. Also, Espanyol was having one of their CBs follow Messi when he dropped deep, while Arsenal had better luck sharing Messi duty among their CBs and DMs.
5. “Tactics plays a huge part in winning 2 legged games.” Thanks, Captain Obvious. That’s why we’re having a spirited discussion in the comments section of a *tactics website*. But you have not successfully explained why it would be advantageous for Arsenal to discard the strategy that enabled them to take the lead in this two-legged match in favor of a strategy that (A) they don’t really have the players or mentality for and (B) that has been tried very often against Barcelona (Hercules and Inter are not the only teams that tried to shut up shop against Barca, but no one remembers all the other teams who lost anyway) but has only succeeded rarely.
6. “Biased hypocrites…” I openly admit that I’m biased, but not against Inter. I’ll happily admit that Inter did what they set out to do very well, and that it was a performance that took skill, effort, and intensity in large quantities. But I’m biased in favor of teams that press on defense and attack on offense. I like teams that play like the 1970s New York Knicks. Barca and Arsenal play like that as a matter of principle, and I wish these two teams were meeting in the final. So to hear you say, “oh, they should adopt the tactics that epitomize the most boring way to play the game” stirs up intense negative emotions on my part, and I can only hope that both teams eschew your advice.
Please do not feed the trolls. It’s humorously obvious that this one-leg victory was ‘the greatest to ever happen’ for Barcelona haters. Had Messi not missed a common chip, had the ref not waved his flag, had numerous bounces went the other way (not to take anything away from an in-form Arsenal–I’m neither a fan of either team), we’d have none of this immediate discrediting, which only goes to show the monumental effect of the Catalonian football club.
A frustrating night if you’re a Barca fan although Arsenal deserve great credit for sticking at it and taking their chances towards the end of the game.
Barca were excellent in patches during the first half and a better finish from Messi would have seen them lead 2-0 at the break which is the first source of frustration given he’d probably score that dinked effort 99 times out of 100.
In the second half Barcelona seemed to believe they were more in control than they really were, no doubt already thinking about returning to the Nou Camp with a 1-0 lead they looked like they were happy to maintain possession and seemed to lack interest in going for a second goal.
This was ultimately their downfall as a goal from nothing restores Arsenal’s confidence, get’s the crowd going and then Barca get done on the break, although Barca weren’t helped by who I think was Pique playing Nasri onside.
Makes the 2nd leg very interesting though.
Forca Barca!
I thought that the crucial pass in the move for Arsenal’s second was delivered by Bendtner. A high risk pass, of the sort that would have earned me a shouting-at at school, was beautifully executed to leave Wilshire with space in the centre of the pitch. Then he and Fabregas had to deliver merely competent forward passes to release Nasri; he and Arshavin successfully stayed cool, and bingo!
I thought Barcelona’s fullback play was terrible. I counted seven giveaways from Maxwell in the first 15 minutes of the game. The only thing worse than Maxwell’s passing was his positioning. As the left back, he should have stayed even with the ball and not strayed too far ahead. On one of his giveaways, he’d run up the pitch way ahead of the ball. He received a pass, and then back passed for a reason only he knows straight to Walcott for a break. Shambolic stuff there.
At the Nou Camp, Arsenal will need to stay compact and patient in the midfield. If/when Barca’s attacks break down, they need to counter with all speed and drop the ball into the vast oceans of space behind the fullbacks if Barcelona is going to be as naive in the second leg.
Guardiola should have started Adriano at left back. He is much more suited to Premier League competition with his pace and stamina. Maxwell is simply out of his depth in such a match.
Barcelona will command roughly 70% of the ball at home (65% at Emirates), so Arsenal will just need to be patient and organized and hope Barcelona don’t have it in the final third.
As a Barca fan, I’m eagerly looking forward to the next match. I fear for their defense if Puyol cannot start (considering Pique will be suspended), but I’m sure Barca will be able to score enough goals to win the tie. Messi doesn’t often miss chips over the keeper in 1v1 situations and he had a goal disallowed. Really, Barca was so close to tying or even winning the match. Add the fact that Arsenal is unlikely to play as well at the Camp Nou, and I think Barca is the favorite to win the tie.
yo ZM, you ever read FreeDarko?
Barca = 1970s NY Knicks: “the Knicks embodied a style of play (aggressive team defense and unselfish offense with quick passing and lots of movement away from the ball)” (from “dunk you very much, http://freedarko.blogspot.com/)
Aggressive team defense ? Barca ? you must be kidding.. They are one of the poorest teams in defense.. They are not tested enough in defense so far.. Valdes is an average goal keeper as well..
Why you are on this site is beyond me.
Hilarious.
WHAT A CLASSIC GAME. MY GOODNESS, THE FOOTBALL ON DISPLAY HERE WAS AT AN EXTREMELY HIGH LEVEL. ARSENAL SHOWED THAT YOU DON’T NEED TO PARK THE BUS TO BEAT BARCELONA.
very good game
I think the formation Barcelona started with (which looks suspiciously like a diamond) makes them far too dependent on Messi in the “ponta da lanca” position. Sure he’s a brilliant player but he wasn’t at his best Wednesday. Fortunately their fullbacks provide width like none other, so it gives them an alternate channel in the formation. I fear that with the ascent of Messi, the team is becoming ever more reliant on him.
Arsenal did a lot right this game, but their offside line, while the right idea, wasn’t executed particularly well. They were lucky quite a few times. Like the 2 goals Ibra scored at the Emirates last year, they played the high line, but then gave the Barca midfielder with the ball too little pressure, allowing him to pick out the through ball.
Offensively Arsenal wasted too much time trying to short pass their way through midfield, which just invited pressure and kept costing them possession. When they played longer balls to the front lines (Maybe that’s why Bendtner was put on, which ZM seemed unsure about) they bypassed the pressure and exposed Barca’s weak(ish) defence. The Arsenal Plan B highlighted in the recent Everton game by ZM paid dividends here, albeit under slightly different cuircumstances. This was augmented by Wilshere’s runs through midfield. I don’t know why I never realised how strong he is when running with the ball.
Finally I think Barca, as good as they are, are becoming a little too predictable for top level competitors. Pep will have to figure out a way to adjust his formation or tactics for Camp Nou. Arsenal is still obviously a work in progress, but their progress is undeniable.
I’ve never seen so much if-ing and but-ing about a result. Obviously everyone does it after their team loses but even the neutrals are getting in on the act.
If Messi had scored a chance… Well what if Van Persie had scored the two fairly standard chances he got. Messi being the best player in the world doesn’t mean that creating one great chance and one decent chance for him over 90 minutes guarantees you victory
The offside was close enough that there is still argument about it… linesman gets 1 view at full speed
Anyone who genuinely believes either of the handballs should have been given needs to go have a look at the rules
None of Song’s fouls after the first were even close to being yellow card offences… hence no red. The officials were excellent in my book
@Marc,
why blue with red exterior the colours of barca players in the diagram? Should be that strange kind of green with dark blue (shorts) exterior..
In order contain more factual information about the game!!
And i think the diagram should be smaller, like last year’s same fixture one..
PS: IMO Arsenal palyed a lot better than last year (reasons mentioned by Marc), but also barcelona played with less energy and determination i think.. More fair result would be a draw, but last year again more fair result would have been a 1-4…
Barcelona had a good goal annulled.
‘None of Song’s fouls after the first were even close to being yellow card offences’
But the quantity of fouls, he deserved it a second yellow. In such a situation, its about the quantity of fouls he committed. So considering that, Song easily deserved a second yellow card. Even Arsene would agree…well if it wasn’t a Arsenal player
Its what Arsene would call anti-football….
‘players who play only to make fouls, who make repeated fouls and are never punished.’
funny how things work out eh, Arsene
‘I fear for their defense if Puyol cannot start (considering Pique will be suspended)’
They miss Puyol a lot, especially Pique. In a wierd way, I think it maybe good that Pique isn’t going to play as he doesn’t seem to perform that well with anyone else at centre back and maybe Barca are better off without a ‘Puyol-less Pique’?
Though one should worry about Milito!