Arsenal v Barcelona: tactical preview

Possible starting line-ups
The previous tie between these two sides was a classic, fascinating technically, aesthetically and tactically.
This meeting offers Arsenal a chance to demonstrate that they’ve learned their lessons from the 6-3 aggregate defeat.
There will be significant personnel changes from last year – injury and suspension meant that neither side played anything like their first-choice XI in the second leg, when Lionel Messi ran riot with one of his finest performances in a Barcelona shirt. Robin van Persie, Jack Wilshere, David Villa and Andres Iniesta didn’t play a part in last year’s tie but all will be key here, whilst four of Arsenal’s back five will be different from the game at the Emirates.
Without the ball
Despite the change in faces, we’re likely to see familiar patterns to the game. The first half of last year’s first leg was characterised by Barcelona’s relentless pressing, something Arsenal have to try and match this time around. Sitting very deep and narrow is the best way to stifle Barcelona, but Arsenal can’t play that way – their back four isn’t good enough – they must instead defend more proactively.
Wilshere has indicated that this will be a part of Arsenal’s strategy:
“We’ve got to change our game a bit to play against Barcelona – we’ll learn from last year, but we need to get in their faces and, if you like, be a bit nasty, in a footballing sense, to get the ball back. We have to press them as a team – there’s no point just one of us going after them, so we have to close them down as a team and get the ball back from them.”
“We need to press Barcelona very high from the first minute and give them no room.”
And Theo Walcott has had his say:
“Hopefully we win the ball back quicker because it’s a massive game this season, the biggest one I’m going to play in.”
Here’s an example of the contrast in pressing in last season’s tie:
Tactically, what the sides do without the ball is the key aspect of the game. More on that in ZM’s preview of the game for ITV here.
Assuming Arsenal do press Barcelona high up the pitch and play a consequently high line, we should be in for goals. The last side to try tactically aggressive defending against Barcelona was their city rivals Espanyol – they ended up getting beaten 5-1, though the game was much closer than the scoreline dictates. Villarreal tried something similar and also lost having caused problems, though in a very different system – a 4-2-2-2. Espanyol’s experience with a 4-2-3-1 is more salient here.
Barcelona tactics
Whilst Barcelona don’t change their style between games, they do change their tactics. As Sid Lowe wrote this week: “Few coaches are as tactically obsessive as Guardiola, as keen on two key points: positioning and pressure.” We broadly know what to expect in terms of pressure, but the positioning of his players will be fascinating.
In that game against Espanyol, Guardiola exploited Espanyol’s high line by instructing Lionel Messi to play very deep – not as a forward, not as a false nine, but more like a central attacking playmaker. Because the Espanyol centre-backs saw Messi as their responsibility, they kept coming out of the backline to track him – only to find Pedro and Villa running through the space, in on goal. This might be something Guardiola tries here – Arsenal’s high line has caught them out at various points in recent weeks, and if Huddersfield and Ipswich can take advantage, it’s doubtful that Barcelona will have any problems. The key for Arsenal’s centre-backs is decision-making about how far up the pitch to track Messi. The intelligence of Johan Djourou, a naturally ‘conservative’ centre-back in terms of moving up the pitch, will be important.
Another huge danger for Arsenal is Daniel Alves, who offers a tremendous attacking threat from full-back. Last season, Wenger was so concerned about his runs that he started Andrei Arshavin on the right in order to play the more defensively-aware Samir Nasri on the left. Nasri is a doubt for the game but it would be a huge boost for Wenger if he was available – in addition to his ability going forward, Arsenal will need him to put in a good stint going towards his own goal. Again, Guardiola may change the positioning of his players slightly here – in the Espanyol game, Alves played extremely high up on the right which allowed the three forwards to narrow, and combine more easily.
In terms of keeping Arsenal out, the loss of Carles Puyol is a huge blow. Not just because it means Barcelona are without their captain and a first-choice centre-back, but because it means that Eric Abidal will have to play at centre-back, exposing Maxwell to Theo Walcott’s pace. The Brazilian completely failed to cope with Walcott last year and the quicker Abidal was drafted in for the second leg. Guardiola will have considered everything possible to put Abidal at left-back – playing Gabriel Milito at centre-back, moving Sergio Busquets there – but the best option will just be to have faith in Maxwell.
Arsenal tactics
The most obvious weapon for Arsenal is the pace of Walcott. Arsenal are probably less of a counter-attacking side this season than they have been for much of Wenger’s reign, but hitting Barcelona with direct breaks – just like the second goal against Wolves at the weekend – is probably the way to go here.
Wenger is unlikely to deviate from his usual 4-2-3-1. His only change might be to use the midfield slightly deeper than usual, in turn pushing Cesc Fabregas higher up the pitch, in something that looks like a 4-4-1-1, in order to form two clear banks of four and see off early Barcelona pressure.
Being physical in the centre of the pitch might help Arsenal, as Wilshere mentioned above, but both teams should beware of referee Nicola Rizzoli, who isn’t afraid of getting his book out.
In terms of dealing with Barca’s front three, Arsenal need to make sure they always occupy the space in front of the back four. In the Nou Camp last year, Messi was fantastic, but Arsenal helped him by being so open in midfield. In that game Arsenal were playing 4-3-3 – or 4-1-2-3 – which meant just one holding player, but the shift to a double pivot in midfield creates a ’square’ that will occupy that space well. Watch Messi’s four goals, and it’s clear how poorly Arsenal tracked him.
The most fundamental part of Arsenal’s game is to be disciplined at the back – to be switched on at all times, and to communicate with one another. Barcelona constantly catch teams out with short corners, for example – two men go to the flag, two opponents go to meet them, and then Barcelona work a 3 v 2 by another player joining from the centre of the pitch in order to manufacture a crossing opportunity. That might sound simple, but it’s a small detail that could prove crucial.
In many games Arsenal can be confident they can beat opponents by technically outplaying them, but here they must make sure that they get things right in terms of strategy and organisation, and learn their lessons from last time.
Arsenal v Barcelona: tactical preview



I love the previews. There’s something (actually, lots of little things) about them that make them so fascinating. It must require a lot of concentration and consideration one a holistic level to write a good one as well, so props to you, ZM.
Thanks very much!
Excellent post ZM. Agree with you that 4-4-1-1 could be the best line up for Arsenal. Almost all teams pressing high up against Barca were defeated on big margins and I am sure Wenger have noticed this. I am more curious to see what would be the tactics used by Wenger than by Pep. There isnt any secrets in Barca’s play. I am not sure if Pep will send out Maxwell again. There are chances that he would place Busquests as CD, and Mascherrano as DM, with more freedom for Busquests to go forwards, with Masch in place. This will allow Abidal to be at the LB. As Pedro has mentioned, in training, he is asked to dribble past Abidal to improve his dribbling skills, as they consider it very difficult. And Abidal is the best person there to stop Walcott.
Cant wait for this game.
I definitely think Pepe will have considered that. But Busquets was very good at the Emirates last year, I think he’ll want him in midfield…
Pepe?
he means pep (guardiola)
not pepe from real madrid
“Almost all teams pressing high up against Barca were defeated on big margins and I am sure Wenger have noticed this.”
I hope this doesn’t dissuade the gunners from pressing hard. For Arsenal I am sure that winning the Mourinho way (dropping back and conceding possession) is not on the cards, not only because Wilshire said “We have to press them as a team… we have to close them down as a team and get the ball back from them,” and not only because (as ZM pointed out) “Arsenal can’t play that way – their back four isn’t good enough” (though I’d be confident they could do it with TV and Sagna in the back line). From my observations, Arsenal and Wenger want to win playing their game, and that’s what makes them so interesting for people who just want to watch entertaining/enthralling games.
I agree we shouldn’t, and possibly can’t, rely upon defending deep. I think explaining this by saying the Arsenal back 4 isn’t ‘good enough’ is far too simplistic. Since we settled on the current back 4 against Chelsea we have played 7.5 matches in the league with them and conceded only 2 goals, one of which was Saha’s ‘controversial’ goal. Also only had 8 shots on target against us.
Johan Djourou’s individual record is even more impressive. With him in the team we go from conceding a goal every 50 or so minutes to every 250 odd. He hasn’t lost in 26 league matches either (if we allow that we were 4-0 up when he got injured against Newcastle.) Obviously hasn’t played against anyone as good as Barcelona but they can make anyone’s back 4 look like rubbish – see Real Madrid.
Sagna missing is a massive blow – can see Eboue having an absolute nightmare – but here’s hoping.
Completely agree re. Djourou – the difference between an Arsenal defense with him at its centre and one with Squillaci there is immense – I’d argue it was this switch, almost as much as Diaby being sent off, was the difference between Arsenal in the first and second halves of the Newcastle game.
The loss of Sagna is a big one – it wasn’t so long ago that he seemed to RB for away games only, with Eboue playing a more attacking role in home games. You can’t imagine that happening now, both because Sagna is having such a good season and Eboue seems to be out of form.
“it wasn’t so long ago that he seemed to RB for away games only, with Eboue playing a more attacking role in home games.”
I never understood what Arsenal was thinking during that period of time. Sagna is the best/most/dependable/well-rounded RB in the league for my money.
That really never happened. Sagna was rested for a couple of easier home matches but it was never a tactic over a period of time. Lots of fans on the forums thought it should be I seem to remember as Eboue had a couple of good matches running at defenders.
Call me mad but I think Arsenal will win comfortably tonight. I will be backing 3-1 and 4-1.
RVP is bang in form. Walcott is going to cause some serious damage and Wilshere and Song are pretty positinally disciplined.
Yes and your defenders consist of the likes of Djorou, Konscielny, Clichy, and Eboue. Oh your goalkeeper is Almunia too?
Great prophecy
Szczesny, not Almunia.
Almunia won’t play. And the defensive record in 2011 is very good.
But yes, obviously such a prediction is based on feeling (hope, desire..) rather than any rational indicator.
2-1 isn’t so different than 3-1.
And those defenders were just fine today.
@ Gus: nope. your not mad, its a prediction, all predictions are valid if you can support them with a good argument.
However, Arsenal are a good attacking team, a team that leaves spaces in its own backyard, this is what barcelona thrives on; SPACE, thats why i can predict a barcelona victory.
Arsenal have too many holes defensively. Barca love holes.
Robin Van Persie also hasn’t come up against any central defenders of Pique and Puyol’s class this season. Consider that Barca will dominate the midfield and RVP is left to feed off scraps.
I can see him really struggling tonight.
How to deal with the Xavi-Iniesta-Messi-triangle in midfield, I think there might be a big issue for tonight. Will Cesc join Song and Wilshere – so Van Persie might drop deeper than usual (almost Messi-esque)- and counter attacks with Walcott as the main strategy, or will one of the CB’s help Song and Wilshere out – the pressing strategy.
Or, with a full central part of the pitch: Alves vs. Nasri and Walcott vs. Maxwell/Abidal. The winners here might win the game.
We’ll see.
Everything you put down looks right. If they play Messi in the center Wenger has to specifically task Song with picking him up when he drops into the hole. The Barcelona front three play so narrow at times they make it 3v2 in the center, and if Messi drops off and a CB follows it becomes 2v1. Clichy will be occupied with Alvez, and don’t expect Eboue to pinch in the way Sagna does.
It won’t happen, but I still say the best way to play Barca is to use Villareal’s shape, except have one of the holding mids drop between the CB’s full-time (unless he’s following Messi) and push the fullbacks on to press higher up the pitch before Alvez gets going with speed.
so you want a 3 3 1 3 formation:
Koscielny, Song, Djourou
Eboue, Wlshire, Clichy
Fabregas
Walcott, Van Persie, Nasri
but one that flexes to a 4213 (with Song stepping up and Eboue/Clichy dropping back) like Bielsa’s Chile?
I actually thing it sounds sort of interesting. Don’t believe anyone’s tried it on Barca, and since most other approaches have failed I don’t see why it’s not worth a shot, but then I don’t see why more teams don’t imitate Bielsa anyway so maybe it’s just that I’m not pragmatic enough for real analysis.
Yeah, something like that. But I’d have the front 4 morph between a 3-1, 1-3, and 2-2 depending on the shape that Barca takes, both for defensive pressing and attack.
If they are defending with a flat 4, have Nasri and Walcott sit in the channels to occupy a CB and FB each with RVP dropping off as a second trequartista. If they try to counter by playing Busquets as a third CB then move back and forth between 1 striker and 3 striker shapes. With these 4 players only Walcott is limited in where he could play (not really a playmaker) but the other three can interchange fluidly.
I think it will be a tale of two sides of the pitch:
Walcott faces Maxwell meanwhile Eboue (or insert right fullback from arsenal here) remains free to roam behind Walcott to support him. So for the Arsenal offensive succes will be determined by the play through their right side.
The left side from Arsenal’s view is occupied with Pedro and close behind him with Messi who is eager to cut inside where he will face an outnumbered Arsenal. It’s whats happaning to all opponents of Barca lately. Barcelona just manges to outnumber the other teams wit Pedro, Messi and Alves coming from behind!
Clichy and Konscielsky will have a really tough time to remain the steady attacking thread..
On the same note what worries me is the fact that Wenger plans on playing Rosicky, and not Arshavin.Rosicky has looked useless out there especially roaming centrally where Nasri has had to switch from side to side, this may cause more problems than anyone realizes.
can’t see anything other than an absolute beating for arsenal. some seem to be talking about this game as “will arsenal get revenge” or “have arsenal learnt the lessons from last year”.
IMO the question is whether barca will want to improve on last year, where they could have won the first leg convincingly. 5 or 6 nil easily. they will want to improve on what was a poor 2-2 draw – on reflection of the game – at the emirates.
all over after the first leg.
love this blog and have read it from the beginning, congrats on getting the jobs with the guardian and now itv
GD PREVIEW…
If im wenger…
other than pressing….
when defending…
i would love to move walcott to the left hand side….(if he feels comfortable)
using his speed to keep alves at the back… (like the strategy used to defend cole in chelsea match)
Arsenal should press when Barca has the ball in their half, when it comes to their half, Arsenal should try to keep their position of the back 4 and the midfield with the forwards doing all the running, sounds a bit defensive but this is a great way to neutralise the tricks and flicks that Barca attackers use to get defenders out of position to make space for themselves or for a quick ball.
Arsene Wenger has said Arsenal will play their own style and wont be defensive. Then they will surely loose. Wenger’s one track mind and tactical inflexibility will cost him this game and maybe he’ll get a beating too.
If he is smarter he’ll have only 2 men forward with 2 lines of 4 behind the ball, ready to send balls over the top for the fast Forwards arsenal have.
Dealing with messi, xavi, iniesta is the key to beating Barcelona, question is, how do you do it?
i don’t think we’ll see anything like last year’s 4-1 trashing. arsenal are a lot better specially defensively. van persie is on a great streak. both song and djourou stepped up this season. eboue has a lot of pace. hopefully wenger will instruct him to stay back and minimize his runs forward to make sure he does the job defensively. barcelona drew 2 out of 3 groups stages games away from home. the ref is a major downside just like it was pointed out. song gets carried away in his box to box role. hopefully he’ll pick up a yellow card by the end of the game so he could tackle freely.
i say a 2-1 win for arsenal.
In my opinion, Adriano is the best option for left back in this tie. Adriano is very pacey and is more suited to Premier League competition with his stamina. Maxwell is great for 90% of the sides Barcelona faces (deep defending). I think Guardiola will still pick Maxwell because of his tactical skills when Barcelona has the ball.
One thing I didn’t see mentioned in the article from the Arsenal point of view is tactical fouling. In my opinion, Arsenal should tactically foul Barcelona in non-threatening parts of the pitch when out of possession. If I were Wenger, I would employ a Chile-esque strategy there in order to keep men behind the ball. The key, of course, would be to foul intelligently and not get carried away as Chile did against Spain.
Arsenal are not built to press for an entire match, so they will need to do so very tactically or they will be run, passed and scored off the pitch.
In Nou Camp, Messi was tracked by Denilson. Song will play instead of Denilson tonight as a DM. When you consider the difference between Denilson and Song in pace, strengh and work rate, it will definitely be tougher game for Messi than the last one.
Seeing the graph made me ask:Why not to play a 5 men defence vs Barca?
One of the ceter backs will follow Messi, when he drops to the hole, and the LB will be in charge of Alves.
Any thoughts on this idea ZM?
That would mean playing less in midfield, more freedom for Xavi and Iniesta.
Seriously though, how do you beat Barcelona?! Regardless of who they play, Xavi, Busquets and Iniesta will just control the midfield, and Messi will drop off too add another option, so that’s four players who, if you allow time on the ball, will punish you, so how do you control all four of them? That’s not to mention the clever runs of Pedro/Villa, who provide width and pace in behind, or the incredible attacking runs and pressing of Alves. How many teams in world football have that many dangermen, who provide that much of a threat?
Personally, I think the way to play Barcelona is on the counter attack. Go man for man in midfield, with the striker dropping off on Busquets, and Messi being passed over to a DM as soon as he drops off, as he will inevitably do, and the DM has to be instructed to religiously stick with Messi.
Also, you’re not going to be able to keep the ball against Barcelona, there is method to all the wonderful football, they press the ball so well, so as soon as you get it play it long, I don’t think you should even attempt playing Barcelona at there own game, so go to the complete other end, get a big target man on Pique and rough him up and get a couple of wingers (preferrably fast one’s) to play off of what the target man’s going to win for you.
I’m always bored in lessons and during that boredom, I start thinking football, and I always think about different systems to beat Barcelona, this is probably the one I think is best.
Enjoy the game.
Well, in that way there are 2 men in the midfield with 1 of the strikers to guard Busqets (That of course if the second striker can keep Pique and Puyol busy)).
In your way how do you overcome the 3 vs 2 matchup in the middle when Messi is high up the pitch? do you get the full backs to even the matchup and actually send Alves or Abidal an invitation to overlap? That is the reason I think 5 men defence is better.
Of course when in possession the target is to get to a shooting position as fast as possible aka Counter Attack.
I hope you enjoy the game too mate.
When Barcelona is in Arsenal’s defensive third you need at least 5 defenders along the back line with one of the 5 acting as an auxillary center back or DM (center-half as ZM would say) tracking Messi between the lines. Because they will have at least Villa, Pedro, Messi and Alvez moving in and out of the defensive line.
The problem is, you can’t press them with 5 players committed to defense, and Arsenal isn’t cut out to play a sit deep and counter strategy. So, the wingbacks have to stay high as a second line of pressure until Barcelona get the ball out of their third. This also relieves Arsenal’s creative attacking players (Nasri) of tracking the fullbacks all the way back. If Nasri and Walcott have to follow the fullbacks then it is too easy for Barca to break the press by shifting into a 3-4-3.
When Barca have the ball in their third I’d press with a shape of 1-3-3-3 that will transition into 2-2-3-3 if Busquets drops and they convert into their 3-4-3 shape by having one of the 4 follow him out. You have the 3 CB’s defend space, inside out, and invite Barca to hit long balls towards the corners. Once they bring the ball out you compress the shape to 1-1-3-5 with a tight 6 man block in the center and try and force them to cross the ball in from the flanks.
This isn’t without danger, but it’s the only way to fill the spaces they use to play tikitaka through the middle. At least this way they will be playing into a crowded area, where Arsenal will have a height advantage (for once). Leave Walcott and RVP for outballs and counter attacks, looking to hit the space Alvez leaves empty.
But, this is all theoretical. Wenger would never do it.
Neutral view. I like the look of Arsenal in this encounter but whole team will have to work incredibly hard off the ball, be disciplined, hit Barcelona on the counter and take their chances.
Interesting to see Nasri vs D.Alves (both instructions from managers). Whether D.Alves would be reluctant to go forward due to Nasri’s high positioning, or D.Alves will typically overlap forcing Nasri to track back (but in danger of Arsenal counter-attack). Against Real Madrid, Di Maria started on the left (instead of usual Ronaldo role) to track D.Alves runs (more or less invite him to overlap).
Also confident that Arsenal are capable of closing-down the Xavi-Iniesta-Messi triangle. Arsenal have three solid midfielders (who need to be more disciplined as usual) who can pick up each man, therefore Arsenal CB’s won’t be forced to run out of position for D.Villa or Pedro to exploit (typical false nine procedure). Classic example is when Real Madrid’s Alonso and Khedira often failed to pick up the additional man and Pepe was forced out of position for D.Villa to score.
Going to be an amazing game for sure!
“Arsenal have three solid midfielders (who need to be more disciplined as usual) who can pick up each man,”
Good Point. I really hope Arsenal press in an organized fashion. wingers on the fullbacks, Van Persie shuttling between the CBs, Fabregas on Busquets, Song and Wilshire on Xavi and Iniesta, Clichy and Eboue on the wide forwards and Koscielny tracking Messi with Djourou sweeping up behind. Or maybe even drop RVP to cut of Busquets, and then Fab and Wilshire can get Xavi and Iniesta and Song can track Messi, leaving both CBs as free men with Koscielny making aggressive interventions and Djourou still acting as a safety.
The last choice, w/ Song tracking Messi is the most likely in my opinion. Under no circumstance should Koscielny be employed in any individial marking schemes. Not to be trusted, let him stick to the “aggressive interventions” of which you speak.
Hindsight is 20/20 and all, but I have to say: Koscielny made you eat your words today. He was absolutely superb, and in the role you said he shouldn’t be in, no less.
RVP’s false nine role will be very interesting
Would an ‘old school’ man marking job not work against a player as instrumental as Messi. We seen how 4 defensive lapses (players not tracking the run) resulted in 4 goals in the 2nd leg last year, so my questions is, would an old fashioned, man to man marking assignment help to solve this problem?
Thoughts?
Messi’s movement between wide and central locations would make that very difficult. This is why Messi has developed a more central role for both club and country in the last year. Messi’s playmaking capabilities are shining this season. He’s played some Xavi type passes to Pedro and Villa.
The Barcelona attack is much more fluid with Villa than it was with Ibrahimovic. For all the talk of Arsenal improving, many have overlooked the fact Barcelona is bringing Andres Iniesta and David Villa into this game. ZM noted this in the preview.
Understood, but you make very little argument as to why it wouldn’t work. His movement is very good and he gains space because of this combined with defensive breakdowns. A man marking player would surely help prevent some if not the majority of these breakdowns. All of his goals previously against arsenal were due to defensive breakdowns when he moved the ball off, made a forward run and was not tracked. This happens due to a lack of communication, poor defensive positioning that allows him to move on the blindside so that he is the defender does not track the run and finally the 1st defender following the ball instead of following the man after he has passed it. All of these problems are solved by a dedicated man marker. Lets say Song is told to find Messi when Arsenal are defending, where ever he may be. Yes, that will perhaps cause some unbalanced in defensive shape but will also disrupt the barcelona passing rhythm.
Ultimately, there are a myriad of solutions and counter-solutions to the problem of dealing with a player like Messi, i just think that a single man marking job would negate all of the potential problem areas above. Doesn’t have to deal with communication breakdown, he always sees Messi if he makes a forward run and after pressuring Messi into a pass he doesn’t follow the ball as his primary concern is the man himself. If anything, this will limit the affect that he has on the game due to him being marked constantly. You say he is acting like a play maker this year, playing Xavi like passes, wouldn’t a man marking job prevent this from impacting the game?
Now I am not naive to suggest that coaches have not thought of this in the past, how to nullify a player like Messi has been a constant problem for coaches, but Messi is so central to Barca’s game plan, wouldnt this allow Arsenal a better chance of success?
Thoughts?
Didn’t the Greek national team at the World Cup man mark Messi, or am I mistaken? I remember that Messi got the better of his man marker, eventually and I think he was fouled by his marker a few times.
The specific problem with man marking a player like Messi, who has so much freedom, is that you are taking someone out of a zone defensively. The entire defense must still respect Messi, even with a man marker, so you risk further distortion with defensive organization when help is needed.
The positioning issue I noted above is the biggest road block to man marking. Messi shuttles between right wing, central playmaking and striking roles at will. Who man marks him? The right fullback? The left fullback? A center back? A defensive midfielder? And no matter you choose, someone else is going to be a free man.
For example, if Arsenal should charge Song with tracking Messi centrally, Iniesta is the free man. Dangerous prospect. It has been shown time and again during the last three seasons that the best way to defend Barcelona is with a deep defense, deep midfield, and maybe three players charged with launching a counter attack.
If was drawing up a formation to combat Barcelona, I would use a 4-1-2-1-2. The catch would be that the two forwards both played wide, and that the central playmaker was dynamic enough to function as the furthest forward when needed and dynamic enough to close down Busquets and the center backs (Wesley Scneijder).
Wow! Previewing games for iTV now! Congratulations!
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Fonzzama: if you took the 5 minutes necessary to read this you would have noticed the line that read:
“More on that in ZM’s preview of the game for ITV here.”
“Let me google that for you” is not appropriate here, but perhaps “let me CTRL+F that for you?”
Very nice read and great pre-analysis! Personally, I do not see Arsenal successful in the ‘pressing high and being physical’ approach, though. Either too many cards or getting outtricked in the midfield by Xavi and company who as usual think three passes ahead an play the killer ball to Villa/Pedro/Alves for the cross to Messi.
I guess this match is gonna look similar to Spain-Germany in the last WC. Barcelona trying to press and play high up as usual, and Arsenal trying to stay deep, tight and narrow in defense, and work it for dangerous high-pace counters via Walcott. They might even have a good chance like that, as they all are quick and technically skilled. Going up 1:0 might do the job. At least that’d be my tactics for Arsenal if I were coach
“Sitting very deep and narrow is the best way to stifle Barcelona, but Arsenal can’t play that way – their back four isn’t good enough”
That’s a really lazy bit of analysis – Arsenal don’t have the best back four in the world, but the idea that they cannot play super defensively against Barca because of a lack of talent is silly. The reason why Wenger will not play super defensively is two fold – 1) The team are not used to playing that way they would not have a proper understanding of their roles and positions since they have never practiced playing this way. 2) Wenger doesn’t want to play that way he is an ideologue, who believes that there is a morally right way of playing football. He doesn’t believe that defending deep, being physical, exploiting set-pieces and playing on the break is the way to play football. That isn’t to say that they can’t it’s just to say that they won’t.
Might well be that Wenger does not believe in this type of sitting deep/defensive football, and probably prefers to look like playing dominant at home. But then Arsenal will lose the game by some high margin. Say, 5:2.
Upyourarsene, your Point 1)explains why ZM is right – the fact that they are not used to playing this way explains why Arsenal’s back four isn’t good enough to sit deep and narrow and expect to keep Barca out. Where is the laziness? It’s just a statement of fact, which you yourself back up.
As for point 2), I think you’re right, Wenger does believe there is a morally right way to play football. And quite right too – while Barcelona are technically superior to everyone else, both Arsenal and Barcelona are superior to all others in terms of the unflinching playing mentality they adopt. How great that the Champions League has brought together the two teams that simply radiate the love and beauty of football, for football’s sake. If they both stay true to their philosophies, they’ll both achieve victories far greater than the acquisition of mere silver.
Here’s to a great game of football, and moral superiority
Sorry maybe as an Arsenal fan after months of hearing Alan Hansen and co. go “Arsenal’s central defence and goalkeepers are why they canne win the league” any reference to Arsenal’s defenders inability to defend tends to make me a little touchy. I see what you mean and I see how what I said could be seen as self-refuting. I saw him saying “their back four isn’t good enough” to mean – look at those quality defenders Inter had -Lucio, Samuel etc. – Arsenal’s back four are crap – they’re not good enough to defend for 90 mins against Barca. That was what I thought was lazy. But perhaps I was being overly sensitive.
Also I’m sure we’ll be thumped 5-2.
Haha, yeah me too! But (and I wouldn’t have said this about any Arsenal team for a long time), I think whatever the outcome we will use it as a positive experience and improve as a result of it.
Arsenal are trying to play the Barca way. Against Barca that is only a good idea if you are better than them at that. Now it is too late to sit back, they can only defend the 0:1. Let’s see how it continues, probably won’t end 2:5 anymore. But Barca could easily have 4 by now, also considering the offside decisions that were dodgy.
Otherwise a very good match. Arsenal are more level to Barca in terms of playing than any other team i’ve seen in the last year.
Talk about panicky defending in the first example of the first clip! Gotta keep a cool head when being pressed like that. Easier said than done.
One of the things I’m most looking forward to, is how Barca is going to deal with Wilshere’s runs. Xavi is defensively intelligent, but doesn’t have the legs to track him- and while Iniesta is quite disciplined in terms of pressing, he isn’t exactly the greatest man marker there is. Busquets is likely to deny Cesc time on the ball, but Fab is definitely going to have enough space to play those one-twos with Wilshere (and/or Van Persie).
If Arsenal are brave enough (as I assume they’ll be), Wilshere could be the deciding factor here, in terms of creating chances. His runs are going to open up space somewhere else when being tracked, in addition to the possible openings he’ll be creating for himself.
ZM, will you do a match preview for the napoli villarreal game of tomorrow? (please)
it looks like an interesting game
Yeah, then do previews of all the weekend games.
These are the two teams he has said he likes to watch this season because of their tactics. Would be great to read the match analysis, although it would probably come without the game preview
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> The last side to try tactically aggressive defending against Barcelona was their city rivals Espanyol – they ended up getting beaten 5-1,
Didn’t Betis do this? They lost 5-0 in Nou Camp in the Copa (though, again, the score was closer than it sounds) and then won 2-1 in Seville against a Barça subs-plus-Messi side.
2-1YEAAAAAAH!
so lads, a tactical loss of Pep or a win for Wenger?
yes
spanish, italian coaches are not used to make game winning coaching
look at ancelotti in chelsea
I’d say a bit of both. Arsenal certainly looked more comfortable “between the lines” (despite some occasional collapses, ie the goal) and their pressing in the midfield was very good, as well as Nasri/Walcott tracking. They attacked in flashes, in the pockets of spaces that the advanced Barcelona fullbacks opened up, and their pace alone caused much difficulty. Wenger’s risky 4-2-4 (was it 4-1-4-1?) in the games final twenty minutes paid off.
As for Guardiola, I think he mailed it in too early. Keita for Villa didn’t really seem to do what was intended, and perhaps backfired. I’ll have to think more about that second half.
Wouldn’t really put it as a win or loss for either.
Barca dominated the play, spread the ball around with ease and generally created chances. Arsenal played on the counter, sat narrow and generally stopped Barca from overwhelming them.
Van Persie’s goal was the result of poor goalkeeping and then the momentum went Arsenal’s way. Wenger didn’t really have much control over that and Pep was unable to stop it so late in the game.
Does anyone remember Xavi doing anything significant? He was a ghost tonight.
Are you kidding me? He had 129 passes, far more than any other player. Fabregas, the best in Arsenal had 51. He was brilliant, as always.
Arsenal won this because:
1) They’re fitter, they were last year and it stills seems to be the case.
2) Arsenal NEVER quit running.
You know, there is a limit to how useful completing loads of passes can be. Barcelona had a big possession advantage (61 – 39%), but Arsenal actually had the advantage in shots – 10 shots (7 on target) compared to Barca’s 8 shots (5 on target). So sure, Xavi had an individually brilliant game – very few players in the world could dream of completing 129 passes in any match, much less a CL game against Arsenal. But from the team’s perspective… maybe not so brilliant.
And it’s not at all true that Barca were less fit than Arsenal. Actually, if you look at the statistics from last year’s games, Xavi was the player who ran the longest distance in both legs (2nd most was Denilson). This year, it might be different (doesn’t Xavi have a chronic muscle injury or something he’s dealing with?) – I’m guessing Wilshere beat him in distance run – but it’s not some kind of huge gap or anything.
I don’t think it’s about fitness as much as a broader sense of fatigue. Whether physical or mental, Barcelona can’t keep that level of football up for the full ninety, against opposition as good as Arsenal. It’s just not possible.
All that pressing comes at a cost if you’re not 4-0 up as they usually are.
Really? I thought he had a very good game. The Arsenal players rarely pressed him (at least as much as his teammates) and he couldn’t play too ambitious balls because of decent marking. But, nonetheless, I thought he played well — particularly close to his own goal. My friend, not much of a football watcher, even said “that Xavi is a really technical player” after one of us his numerous turns that made Fabregas fall down.