Southampton 1-2 Manchester United: Ferguson’s switch back to a system with width turns game

The starting line-ups
Manchester United yet again came back from an awful first half display to take the win.
Nigel Adkins was without key playmaker Adam Lallana, so went for a fluid 4-3-1-2 / 4-3-3 system.
Sir Alex Ferguson made numerous changes, and he also lined up with a 4-3-1-2.
Whilst not wishing to overlook Southampton’s fine first half performance, it was Sir Alex Ferguson’s strange decision to go with that shape that was the key factor in letting the home side dominate the first half. United have switched between 4-4-2 and 4-5-1 seamlessly in recent years, but here looked completely uncomfortable, starved of any width or true creativity.
Strange United shape
In the age of squad rotation, Ferguson probably selected the XI players he wanted to give playing time to, and then considered a formation later. However, even if he had wanted to use the eleven players that started the match, he still could have used a 4-4-2 system, with Gabriel Obertan on the wing (rather than as a forward) and either Anderson or Darron Gibson playing a narrowish wide role. Neither would have been entirely comfortable there, but it surely would have meant United were more comfortable as a whole.
One of the men who was least comfortable in the 4-3-1-2 was Paul Scholes, despite the fact he wasn’t playing an entirely different role from the one he usually plays. However, he was United’s most naturally creative player on the pitch, and from that deep-lying midfield role, he loves hitting long, diagonal passes to the flanks. When United had no-one on the flanks, Scholes was unable to influence the game and United consequently played poorly.
Southampton on top
Of course, with the two sides playing broadly similar systems, both had the same basic tasks. Southampton were the better side in the first half, so what were they doing better?
The key was in the full-back areas. Southampton’s front three (the two strikers and Guly Do Prado) worked as a unit to shut down United’s full-backs, with the strikers moving wide and being given the responsibility of occupying a centre-back and a full-back each. Consequently, Fabio da Silva and John O’Shea got forward little. In stark contrast, United’s forward trio stayed very central, meaning that both Danny Butterfield and Dan Harding got forward to influence the play higher up the pitch.
There was also more energy in midfield. Richard Chaplow supported the forwards (and eventually broke through to score the goal) whilst Alex Chamberlain charged infield from the left of the pitch, and often scampered into dangerous positions unchecked.
Owen deep
Michael Owen being used as a trequartista was the most surprising aspect of United’s shape, but he was not the main reason for their first half performance – he linked play well and was one of the brighter players on the pitch. His goal (admittedly, after he’d been moved forward as a second striker) came after he dropped deep and sent an excellent ball out to the right flank.
As noted a year ago on ZM, Owen is not longer the clinical finisher he once was, nor does he possess the lightning pace that he depended on in his younger days. However, he has adapted his game reasonably well to become more than a simple poacher, and whilst it’s unlikely to see him filling that role for United on a regular basis, the remainder of his career might be better served in a relatively deep position.

After Ferguson's changes on 58 minutes
Changes
The introduction of Nani and Ryan Giggs after an hour meant United had width and pace, and the turnaround seemed likely as soon as the changes were made. Equally, Southampton’s attack-minded system played into United’s hands after the switch – their full-backs received no support in dealing with United’s wingers, and simply couldn’t compete with the trickery they were up against. A system with two banks of four from Adkins may have dealt better with this new threat.
Southampton’s advantage was now in the centre of the pitch, but Giggs and Scholes controlled possession between them, and United were comfortable in that zone. The lack of fight from Southampton at 1-2 down can partly be put down to fitness levels, but there was also a clear difference in class when United switched to their more natural system, further emphasising that the first half display was more about Ferguson getting things wrong, rather than Adkins getting things right.
Conclusion
Even the most ardent member of the anti-tactics brigade would have to concede that this turnaround was inspired by Ferguson’s change in formation. United went from narrow to wide and used their new-found wingers to attack Southampton down the flanks. They only played well for ten minutes, but it was enough to put them into the fifth round.
Also, a word on Hernandez – as acknowledged by Ferguson in a post-match interview, Owen is likely to get fewer chances in the first team because of the Mexican. He has a very handy habit of scoring important goals – almost all of his strikes this season have been winners or openers. The frequent comparison for Hernandez has been Ole Gunnar Solskjaer – baby-faced, low profile when he signed, instant impact, good finisher – but Hernandez is also very similar to Owen at a similar age. Hernandez was the fastest player at the World Cup last summer, for example. His goal here was remarkably similar to Owen’s famous last minute strike against Manchester City last season – movement from a central area away from the ball towards the left to receive a pass from Ryan Giggs, one touch and a finish into the far corner.
Southampton 1-2 Manchester United: Ferguson’s switch back to a system with width turns game




I’m a Chelsea fan, and I have to say, Chicarito has really impressed me this season – another annoyingly good signing from Sir Alex it seems
Would agree here the problem was the formation. Personnel was fine but the players seemingly had no clue what they were doing.
I don’t think the personnel were ‘fine’. Although I agree the formation was unusual to the players, but did you notice how the game changed once Gibson left the field? He couldn’t play even in a 5 man midfield against Blackpool (even before he switched to the left).
The thing with this guy though is that he rarely man marks, he rarely is in a position to intercept balls, he rarely runs after the ball once it has passed close to him and is going in his own goal’s direction. I can see the other players dropping their shoulders when they play with him. He is a demoralizing figure to have on the pitch. Once he went, voila!
Oh, and as is customary, no claims from Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, City fans about referee bias towards United? Maybe Southamption were deprived of a penalty, or a United player didn’t get a red card? Or maybe there should have been 15 minutes of added time? Dear me, amazing isn’t it?
how will united get a red card when cesc fabregas is not around waving his imaginary cards?
I’m slightly confused, changing to a 4-4-2 means playing wider and thus using the space on the flanks, it also means one player less in midfield. Why didn’t Manchester United get overran in possesion with only two players?
As mentioned, as Giggs and Scholes were good enough to control that zone by themselves. Also tiredness a factor, and the fact United played the ball wide quickly rather than keeping it in a position where they were outnumbered
Thanks for the response, its made me think about your articles describing the changes in the game in the last decade and yet Ferguson just won a game with a traditional 4-4-2 system and a Poacher (Chicharito) who doesn’t get involved too much in the build up play. Maybe football does go in cycles.
no formation is used in a vacuum. here the opponents played a relatively dated formation themselves with no width. 442 may have serial/structural difficulties dealing with a 4231, but perhaps less so with a 4312.
also, the opponents were not as strong. If Leonardo showed up with Inter playing a 4312 we could expect it to stand up to United rather better, regardless of which formation United play.
Owen was also dropping very deep to help out after United took the lead. Seem to remember him in a right-back position at one point.
re: “[Hernandez] has a very handy habit of scoring important goals – almost all of his strikes this season have been winners or openers.” Do you know of the actual stat for this? Would be interesting to see.
http://www.football-lineups.com/footballer/16954/
goal 1: winner
goal 2: winner + opener
goal 3: opener
goal 4 and 5: winner + opener
goal 6: winner
goal 7: N/A
goal 8: winner
goal 9: opener
goal 10: N/A (it was the equaliser)
goal 11: winner
Thanks. Very impressive.
Goal #10 was important and would think ZM agrees. Opener/Winner were just examples he made, and probably wouldn’t narrow important goals just down to those.
Thanks for that, David! Impressive stuff from Chicharito.
Wasn’t this formation a 4-2-2-2/4-2-3-1 hybrid rather than a 4-4-2 ?!
Obertan and Nani are not (4-4-2) wide midfielders, and Scholes and Giggs are too old be going box-to-box.
Meh, 4-2-2-2 then, little difference here
For me a 4-2-2-2 makes a big difference, especially a 4-2-2-2/ 4-2-3-1 hybrid.
The original 4-4-2 had no pacey wingers (neither normal, nor inverted), no false 9 or “9 and 1/2″ (as Platini called those who do both the trequartista and striker), nor holding midfielders.
And let’s not mention the box-to-box defensive forwards a.k.a. attacking fullbacks (witch would be blocked by the wide midfielders in a classic 4-4-2).
United have always played 4-4-2 well, getting the ball wide quickly and are the only top team left who often play with two traditional wingers. Complete contrast with watching Inter today who had a nominal right back in Maicon as the out ball on the right and nominal striker Eto’o on the left.
Will be interesting how SAF includes Berbatov in the traditional CL 4-5-1, what do you think Rooney on the left? I always thought a Brazil-esque system would be good, with Nani as wing/forward, Rooney in the hole and Berbatov upfront.
it’s strange, because for all of Rooney’s problems this year, he’s created a lot of goals – 9 assists in the EPL, tied with Arshavin for 2nd place (yeah, I bet most fans would be surprised to see those guys near the top of the assist charts). playing him in the hole would be an interesting idea. he has the work rate to play in midfield, and at the moment, if you play a 4-2-3-1 with him as the lone striker (as United did against Arsenal), leaving out Berbatov and Hernandez, there’s not too many goals in that team. so yeah, I could see him moving back to midfield in big games, at least until he rediscovers his goalscoring form.
Rooney won’t be the lone forward in CL, but where he plays in midfield will probably be determined by who SAF happens to have starting based on his system of squad rotation. Rooney played left against Blackpool, with Berbatov up top, and that will probably be a prominent setup. But if there is a player on the field who is a natural left winger then Rooney may find himself in the whole – a midfield like Giggs, Scholes, Carrick, Rooney, Nani would put him in a position to match his number.
Good article as ever, ZM!
Have to say I’m a bit wary of this ‘fastest player at the World Cup’ thing. He’s obviously pacey but I don’t think Castrol ever revealed how they measured it. I think it must be without the ball, but was there a particular distance threshold for a sprint to be measured? A player is only going to reach top speed if he has space to run into and if he needs to, which depends on the opposition and the particular passage of play. I would suggest that it’s pretty rare for a central midfielder to sprint flat-out for much distance unless there’s a breakneck counter-attack.
Besides which, if I remember correctly a couple of Greek centre-backs came in second and third, which seems unlikely!
Ha, fair enough!
Please write an entire article about Hernandez!! I find this player really impressive.
i’ll second that, but maybe later in the year so we can see what he does in the CL knock out comps…
Superb article and great website. Keep up the excellent work
Good point about Scholes being unable to ping his trademark balls wide in the first half.
United once again relying on veterans Giggs and Scholes to turn a game around.
Has there ever been an older centre midfield two playing at the top level as seen in 2nd half?
Poor overall performance but they are getting the job done.
Hernandez is the master of improvisation – look at many of his goals. He was almost horizontal when nicking ball past keeper here. Loved Tuesday’s goal vs Blackpool. VDS to Giggs (great control and vision) then on to Chich who cushioned pass and looked up to see keeper advancing and then stroked home – glorious.
See my blog for more on this goal.
Interesting analysis even if fairly basic for someone who attented the game. Southampton had to sacrifice their normal width, otherwise you probably would have seen a lot more of Alex Chamberlain.
Still great website and look forward to more reads
Very basic as it was a very basic tactical contest
Always a strange criticism when the most frequent criticism of tactical analysis is that it ‘overcomplicates’ a very basic sport
I wonder if United will ever be punished for being terrible in almost all their away games, especially in first halves.
ZM, do you think Hernandez will ever be a starter for United in big games? He seems to have little to his game beyond the excellent speed/timing of runs/finishing, which seems to “condemn” him to a super-sub role, with some starts against the dross. I wonder if Hernandez would be happy with such a role, given his rapidly rising stardom.
He kind of has to be happy, his stardom is rising because of where he is and how he’s being used. Solsjaer is a good comparison and he became very happy with his place, and Chicharito is younger and still carving out his own niche.
He’s ‘first choice’ in terms of the player he is, if you see what I mean, and so when the system needs pace up front he’ll be in instead of Berbatov/Rooney. He just needs to be patient, he’ll get chances: Berbatov isn’t quite as good as his goalscoring figures suggest, and there’s still every chance that Rooney will be sold in summer.
every system needs pace upfront, thats if you want to be more than one dimensional
I expect he’ll get more starts soon. But maybe a great impact sub will be his role for a while…
Hmmm. Your read of the game is vastly different what I thought: http://mancuniantactics.wordpress.com/2011/01/30/southampton-1-2-manchester-united-brilliant-substitutions-by-sir-alex/
I read it as an unorthodox 4-3-3 than the 4-3-1-2 and furthemore, I think I may have gotten the wing roles wrong. Although our analysis post-change seems to be similar. I am confused on whether I have gotten Sir Alex’s starting formation and my analysis completely wrong.
I always look forward to your United analysis as I can compare them to mine!
Any pointers on what I got wrong?
It looked like a 4-3-3/4-3-1-2/4-1-2-1-2 hybrid to me. A Barca style formation to some extent (Owen doing a Messi) but with no fullback support.