Bayern 2-0 Roma: Ranieri’s side show shocking lack of ambition

The starting line-ups
Bayern dominated the game from start to finish, but it took a superb Thomas Müller goal to break the deadlock.
Bayern lined up in their usual 4-2-3-1 shape. Hamit Altintop started on the left in the absence of Franck Ribery, whilst Ivica Olic was the lone forward.
Roma played a conservative, narrow 4-4-2 formation with Francesco Totti and Marco Borriello upfront. Aleandro Rosi made a rare start at right-back, so Marco Cassetti played on the left. Matteo Brighi was used in a right-sided midfield role.
The pattern of the game became apparent early on – Bayern were going to dominate possession (as they showed so well against Wolfsburg), Roma were going to sit back with two banks of four, and play for a point. The two forwards stayed high up the pitch, with neither Totti nor Borriello looking to drop back into midfield to help win the ball back.
This was the key feature of the game, because it meant Mark van Bommel and Bastian Schweinsteiger had all the time in the world to sit deep and pick a pass – especially considering Roma’s midfield was sitting so deep. Schweinsteiger completed 105 of 112 passes during the match, and was the key figure in the first half.
Lack of chances
They were still finding it difficult to create chances, however. Toni Kroos was barely in the game, whilst Hamit Altinop rarely looked to play an ambitious pass, seeming slightly lost on the left-hand side since Roma were defending narrow and showing him down the line.
Roma’s lack of ambition when going forward was remarkable, although maybe to be expected considering they were essentially playing four central midfielders across a flat midfield four. Totti was lethargic and was generally crowded out when balls were played into his feet in a trequartista position, whilst balls over the top for Borriello often saw him up against three Bayern players. At one point, he received the ball in a promising position in the left-hand channel, and there were no teammates within thirty yards of him – and no-one looking to break forward to provide an option either.
In fairness, Roma were defending reasonably well, as Bayern struggled to raise the tempo of the game and put the Roma centre-backs under any real pressure.
Second half
After half-time, Louis van Gaal switched Thomas Muller and Hamit Altintop, which had the effect of making Muller more of a presence in the game. Diego Contento got forward into advanced positions from left-back, meaning Roma were slightly more stretched, and Muller had room to come inside and shoot. Roma seemed slightly more keen to close down Schweinsteiger and van Bommel in the second period, but this created room for Kroos – and Bayern’s improvement in the second half in terms of creating goalscoring chances owed a lot to his stronger presence in the match.
He was pushed out wide when van Gaal made a double substitution, taking off Olic and Altintop and introducing Mario Gomez and Miroslav Klose, clearly feeling he could dominate the midfield with just two central midfielders, and wanting an added goal threat.
The goal eventually came from Muller, with a superb swerving half-volley that sneaked into the far post. That was essentially came over – Roma were never going to be able to get back in the game – though Klose poked in a Holder Badstuber free-kick to make sure of the win.
Reaction
A routine win for Bayern, but this Roma performance was more alarming than a simple 2-0 defeat away at last season’s European Cup finalists. Roma were terrible, a shadow of the side that was so attack-minded and successful for the first half of 2010, and Ranieri’s decision to move to a 4-4-2 formation looks dreadful. What did he make of the game?
“We were far more attacking last season, but tonight we waited for Bayern too much and were simply too passive. I was not disappointed with the side, but we do have to be a little more determined to make ourselves heard and support the strikers. The strength of Bayern is keeping possession and then developing on the wings with Arjen Robben and Franck Ribery. Without them, they struggled. We did very well in defence, but didn’t manage to develop our own attacking moves which are also built on passing. The team is accustomed to playing without a real centre-forward, but we have to change, as we cannot always leave Totti there on his own. We’ve got to work on this and will find the right solution, as it’s pointless having signed Adriano and Borriello if we then play with just Francesco Totti and lots of midfielders.”
Francesco Totti was more brief, saying, ”We played the old catenaccio. We defended for the entire game, not even having a shot on goal. You can’t play this way.”
Such was the nature of the defeat, combined with Totti’s reaction, sections of the Italian media are already suggesting Ranieri’s job is under threat - with Marcello Lippi and Leonardo being linked with the role.
Conclusion
Only one side wanted to win the game – and they eventually did, with a stunning goal from Muller. Ranieri is probably right in his assertion that Bayern struggle without Ribery and Arjen Robben, but he shouldn’t take this as some kind of justification for his tactics.
Granted, had Muller not come up with his strike, a 0-0 would have looked a good result for Roma, but it is extremely rare to see a team be so cautious – sitting back and defending is fine, but if you offer nothing whatsoever on the counter-attack, you invite constant pressure and more often than not, the breakthrough will come.
Bayern should be commended for their ball retention and their patience. Kroos grew into the game, but needs to have an impact throughout the 90 minutes if he’s to justify van Gaal giving him the central playmaker role.
Bayern 2-0 Roma: Ranieri’s side show shocking lack of ambition





ZM, what in your opinion was the difference between Roma and Rangers this week? What did Rangers do right and Roma do wrong? Because the tactics used were essentially the same, 10 men behind the ball and defend for a point against a clearly superior team.
Isn’t the big difference that Roma have the talent to do a lot more?
Of course it is, but if a team like Roma decides to play defensively, then surely they could have made a better fist of it than they did here, whether they are able to offer more or not.
Mueller’s goal was the difference, really. No United player managed to come close to producing something like that. But yeah as Sam said, you expect that from a team like Rangers with limited resources, Roma can’t make that excuse.
I watched this game expecting something quite different to what I ended up seeing, although it made for an interesting enough tactical duel in the first half. Second half the switch to 442 by Van Gaal certainly won it, although the game itself was less interesting, I thought.
Yes, Roma played unbelievably defensively, but I am pretty sure they shaded it on chances for the first hour. Totti is certainly exaggerating to say they had no shots – Boriello very nearly scored first half for a start – and off the back of a heavy defeat last weekend, and some injury troubles in important areas 0-0 or a sneaky 1-0 would have been quite good results, surely?
One thing which really stood out for me, as you have noted, was the the time on the ball allowed Schweinsteiger and van Bommel. In this situation, basically aiming to get a point, what is the point of the 2 Roma forwards staying so high up the pitch. Everyone knows that 442 can struggle against a 4231 in the middle of the pitch – would it not have been better for the 2 forwards to drop in on the Bayern pivots? It’s not like they were finding any space on the counter attack, and leaving Badstuber and van Buyten free would surely have been less dangerous than letting the midfield play as they wished? Is this not a viable defensive approach for a 442 team with limited ambition of going for a win against a 4231?
Great goal from Mueller. Another great find by Bayern, mores the pity
I was quite surprised to see Olic i the side. With Ribery and Robben Bayern play with their may threads on the wing, with them cutting inside an go for the goal. So with them on the pitch Olic is perfectly suited – creating space, troubling defenders. But with Altintop and Müller on the flanks Bayern could have swung in a lot more crosses but didn’t because with Olic in the box that wounldn’t be a real thread.
I would say Bayern has two teams that play a slightly different type of football.
———————-Klose————————
Altintop/Ribery——-Kroos———Müller/Altintop
or
———————-Olic————————
———————Müller———————–
Ribery————————————Robben–
What struck me most in the first half was how often Bayern were forced to play on the left wing as Roma closed down the more attacking right wing (with Lahm and Müller) with much more determination. That worked well because Contento is not yet very comfortable getting into attacking positions and Altintop was reluctant to cross (maybe because Bayern didn’t have a forward in the box who is threatening from headers). For me, Klose’s introduction was important to get more urgency in the box.
Can’t find the link, but I saw on ESPN yesterday that Mueller’s goal was #1 on the top 10 plays of the week! Nice work dude!
Any idea why Ranieri setup Roma to play for a point? I’m not against defensive football, but Roma don’t have the players or aren’t well drilled enough to do that. Not to mention on paper, Roma don’t look that much worse technically than Bayern.
I think it’s a combination of being shell-shocked from the awful 5-1 loss against Cagliari and missing a lot of key players. Mexes, Riise, Vucinic, and Taddei were all out, and I don’t think Ranieri trusted his defenders without Mexes and Riise.
because Ranieri is a limited manager!
Van Gaal: “We played very well in the circumstances. We let the ball do the work, in the first half as well as the second. But we didn’t create many chances. However, we never let a very good opposing team get going, although they only came here to defend, which always makes it difficult. After 70 minutes, Roma stopped running, because they’d been chasing the ball all night. That’s how we play it. The fans need to understand that we need time to run our opponents into the ground. We’ve scored two good goals, and we could have had two more in the final minutes.”
Ranieri lost his tactical battle with van gaal in this game. van gaal brought on two strikers to make it 1 vs 1 when they were attacking and it worked. ranieri didnt respond to this change and thats why roma lost. if ranieri brought on another central defender for one of the strikers, roma would have had that 1 more man in defense and the leftback(cassetti) would have closed down mueller not giving him time to take the shot that led to his super goal.
After all, i think roma could have won this game if they played their own game(4-4-2). specially without ribery and robben. bayern dont play with a DM and with totti dropping deep he could have brought the defenders van buyten and badstuber out of their area and make spaces for the inside forwards such as menez and the other striker.
This is wholly wrong. In the first half Roma had two golden edged chances. They did sit back which is normal for a team playing away to Bayern Munich in European competition. And the Marco Borriello dropped deep many times to help win the ball back.
Even in the second half, where Bayerns domination was almost total, Borriello had another golden chance, one on one with the goalie which he missed when the score was at 1-0.
Bayern dominated because they are the alround stronger team and I dont believe Roma showed no desire. They just werent good enough and therefore had to defend and hope to score on the break. i dont believe this was a tactic decided upon before the game because in the first 45mins despite Bayerns possession Roma could hav easily gone in at HT 2-0 up…
Roma had lots of injuries. and the attackers werent really fit. totti was sick. the team had 60-70 minutes of running in them and Ranieri tried to get 90minutes out of them and it failed. congratulations to bayern
van Gaal said, first Bayern had to break the Roma. they needed a first half where Roma had to run, chances were not important in the first 45 minutes. Robben and Ribery are player who are able to enforce something. without them Bayern has to develop different pressure. therefor they play and play (and keep possession) and after 60 or 70 minutes the legs and heads of the opponents get tired and thats the time you need chances (and players like Klose).
to be fair, Borriello had a good chance to make it 1:1. But that was all from AS Roma and they were disappointing.
The key for me is putting yourself in Totti’s shoes – when a creative player has the ball he needs runners and options around him.. especially Totti who is approaching his 34th birthday and is increasingly reliant on his vision rather than ability to do things on his own. Ranieri effectively gave him a fairly immobile frontman and no width to work with.
Interesting that you put the after-match comments on the piece – Ranieri is critical of his team but doesn’t seem to explain how he actually thought the side would create chances the way he had set them out. All very odd.
Mueller now surely has two contenders for goal of the season so far. This strike as well as his against Wolfsburg in the first round of the Bundesliga.
for all the previous problems he’s had at other clubs with board members, the media, etc., van Gaal must be one of the best managers at finding and developing young talent. in previous years, you saw guys like Jens Jeremies, Christian Lell, Andreas Goerlitz, etc. being given chance after chance, but becoming nothing more than average players, while players like Trochowski, Hummels, Misimovic, and Marcell Jansen fell through the cracks. hell they even had Alou Diarra (current Bordeaux and occasionally France captain) on their books for a few years. suddenly van Gaal comes and transforms the average Schweinsteiger into a world class player, also discovering Badstuber and Mueller. I don’t think they’ve had an academy class this good (Kroos as well, although everyone knew about him already) in a decade or more. who knows, Diego Contento and Thomas Kraft could add to the list in a few years.
Jens Jeremies a average player? youre kidding, right?
sorry, don’t know where he came from, in a list of recent academy graduates… must have been thinking of someone else
Maybe you were thinking of Andreas Ottl ;=)
Anyway, van Gaal has certainly been tremendous in helping young players transform from talent into pros, but one should not forget the work of long time Munich reserves coach Hermann Gerland.
The names of players he formed is endless, e.g. in 90’s: Markus Babbel, Sammy Kuffour, Didi Hamann, Christian Nerlinger, Owen Hargreaves
What might be even more striking is how many players of Germany’s world cup team developed under him: Müller, Badstuber, Kroos [partly], Trochowski, Schweinsteiger, Lahm, A.Friedrich (Gerland discovered him while coaching at Arminia Bielefeld in the ’90s).
Here is a wonderful, recent interview with him, I’d say its still readable with google translate:
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tagesspiegel.de%2Fzeitung%2Fdie-guten-laufen-nicht-mit-dem-gebetbuch-rum-%2F1902708.html
short excerpt:
Question: Do you ever get a thanks back?
Gerland: Very much so. I’ll give you two examples.
After the Champions League final, Bastian Schweinsteiger came and wanted to give me his medal. Why? Because he thought the assistant coach would not get one.
And just a few days ago, after Thomas Müller extended his contract to 2015, he said “Thanks Tiger [Gerlands nickname]”
…
Question: How does van Gaal work?
Gerland: He uses the the abilities of computers, he is a man of strict orders, always straight-forward, a meticulous, incredibly hard-working coach. Van Gaal controls everything.
…
Question: In the future you are no longer sitting beside him on the bench in every game of the Bundesliga.
Gerland: It is important to him that I take care of talented youngsters, make sure there will be a fresh supply of professionals coming up.
….
[The greatest piece is this part though]
Question: A talent needs match practice …
Gerland: … And I need a coach who gives him this practice in the Bundesliga. When a 18-year-old and a 25-year-olds are equally strong, van Gaal starts the younger. Not everyone of Van Gaals predecessors in Munich thought the same way, it was said: Lahm, no chance that he plays. I said: “I’ve never had a player who was as good at age 17 as he was. If he is not going to be a star, I ll go coach volleyball” – but it didn’t help.
I told Uli [Hoeness], we need to loan him out to a good team, Lahm in the third league among amateurs that is like casting pearls before swine. But what do you think, did anyone want him in Spring 2003? Zero interest. Until Felix Magath at Stuttgart said: “I ll take him”.
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As a Munich fan, I am very glad to have Gerland taking care of our youth. And it’s nice that with van Gaal, Munich now has a coach who appreciates what Gerland tells him. Ideal player development tandem =)
Shocking performance from Roma… I understand that things might had been different with Vucinic and Taddei on the pitch and given the serious lack of squad depth, Ranieri’s defensive approach in Munich was expectable. However, playing without ANY attacking plan (with immobile Borriello upfront, 4(!) central midfielders reluctant to make forward runs and Totti obviously unable to find any support,it doesn’t seem a wise counter-attacking strategy to me) this was almost anti-football. Bayern’s pressing in the second half just showed that conceding a goal was inevitable for Ranieri’s side.
The defeat does not matter that much to me but I cannot believe that the team was completely unable to keep possession. I only hope that Ranieri will not destroy any “creative” aspect remaining. Anyway, low morale had always been the hardest thing to beat in Trigoria.
Keep up your great work and sorry for my English!
Roma had so many injuries it’s not funny. Ranieri was careful not to use that as an excuse, hence his postgame comments. For anyone to write off Roma after 3 matches is silly. Ranieri was a genius last season, now suddenly he’s a bad coach? How does that work? At this level you don’t get many chances, and you have to take the ones you get. Roma didn’t do that. If they had taken even one (because the chances they had were during critical moments in the match) we wouldn’t be talking about how bad Roma were, but rather how Ranieri came in & stole a point (or 3) from Bayern at the Allianz. This tendency to put so much stock into one match is a function of the hysterical modern media. Commenters on this cerebral blog should know better.
Perfect David H, absolutely perfectly put.
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