Spain 1-0 Germany: Pressing, passing and Puyol

The starting line-ups
A narrow but deserved victory for Spain, who simply carried out their gameplan more effectively than their opponents.
There were two issues to be decided with the starting line-ups. Joachim Loew chose Piotr Trochowski ahead of Toni Kroos to replace Thomas Mueller, whilst Vicente del Bosque finally dropped Fernando Torres, opting for Barcelona’s wide forward Pedro instead.
And it was Pedro who was the key player in the opening period of the game. He was constantly involved in play, receiving the ball both in wide areas and centrally, between the lines. He played a superb through ball to David Villa to create the game’s first (and arguably best) opportunity, but his best work was in his movement and positioning. He didn’t always stay wide, but he made darting runs in behind opponents to create attacking options, whereas David Silva (who started the other game Spain played without Torres, against Switzerland) looks to play a slightly more casual, relaxed passing game.
The other man who had an excellent opening period was Sergio Busquets. Not the most popular player in the Spain squad, and probably the least naturally gifted midfielder on show today, but he did his job very well, both with and without the ball. He forced Mesut Oezil to have a quiet game and followed him throughout the pitch. Oezil started to wander into deep positions, allowing Sami Khedira to make forward runs, but Spain dealt with this well – Busquets continued to close Oezil down regardless of which position he took up, whilst Xavi dropped in and covered.
Busquets’ positional sense is exemplary, for he manages to constantly take up positions which simultaneously make him available for a pass, and be in place to prevent opponents attacking if the move dies down. In the first half he attempted 40 passes, and completed 39 – his critics will say that he only ever plays short passes to Xavi and Andres Iniesta, but that is his job. Besides, it wasn’t necessarily true, as the statistics show he frequently played forward balls to Pedro.
Pressing
The best feature of Spain’s game was their pressing. Germany played superbly against England and against Argentina, and the quality of those performances should not be forgotten or understated after this defeat, but Loew’s men found themselves up against an entirely different challenge in midfield today. England’s pressing was awful whilst Argentina’s wasn’t properly integrated, but Spain did it amazingly well throughout. Germany’s two central midfielders were denied time and space on the ball and weren’t able to play the killer passes they had done so well in this tournament. Whereas against England they had 3 v 2 in the centre of midfield, today they were down 3 v 4 when Iniesta came inside, and they struggled to work the ball into the final third.
Germany seemed disjointed between the midfield and attack. Miroslav Klose and Lukas Podolski saw little of the ball in build-up play – and not once in the entire game one complete a pass to the other, which sums up how much Germany struggled in attack. Mueller was also missed – Trochowski had a decent game, but is simply not the same type of player as Muller, who more naturally linked up with Klose and made direct runs towards goal. There was less movement and interchanging of positions, and Klose found it difficult against Pique and Puyol.
Passing
Iniesta coming inside to create a numerical advantage for Spain in midfield also worked predictably well when they had the ball. A key method of getting the ball forward was to bring Iniesta in to create the 4 v 3, therefore forcing one of the Germany wingers into the centre of the pitch to try to relieve the shortfall. In turn, this created space for Joan Capdevila and Sergio Ramos, who would storm forward into dangerous positions. Ramos did this particularly well, and Podolski spent much of the game on defensive duty, rather than running towards Spain’s goal.
Despite Spain passing well, they weren’t creating a great amount of chances. Villa had his quietest game of the competition so far, closely marshalled by the two German centre-backs. They practically doubled up on him, denying him space to turn, for they weren’t too worried about the threat of runs in behind from other players, as Spain generally only got a maximum of three players into dangerous positions. The full-backs dealt with the other two.
Germany looked happy to accept Spain having the majority of possession, but the German counter-attacks weren’t forthcoming. Their wide players were in defensive positions, whilst Busquets and Alonso broke up attacks high up the pitch, meaning Gerard Pique and Carles Puyol were rarely threatened by Klose.
This general pattern of play continued after half-time, although the game opened up slightly and there were more shots on goal. Most of came from Spain – long-range efforts from Pedro and Alonso, and a cross smashed across the six-yard box that David Villa nearly converted. But the best chance at 0-0 fell to Germany, and Kroos. It was a move reminiscent of Germany’s final three goals against Argentina – Oezil moved to the left to overload Spain on the flank, he slipped the ball to Podolski, whose cross found Kroos. His volley was hit into the floor, and was a reasonably easy save for Casillas.
Puyol
For a game featuring a great tactical battle and tremendous, intricate passing moves, the winner was incredibly simple. Xavi swung the corner in, Carles Puyol’s run from deep caught out Germany’s zonal marking system, and he powered a header into the net to give Spain the lead.
And as we’ve said so often in this tournament, when Spain take the lead, they never look like losing it. Nor did they look like losing the ball for much of the final 20 minutes – there was little intention to try and score a second (although Pedro wasted a chance to square to Fernando Torres to confirm the win) and they closed the game out effectively. Germany threw on Mario Gomez for Khedira, but never looked like scoring.
Conclusion
In all, a marvellous game of football. Tense and tight in the first half, with the teams trying to work each other out and passing the ball excellently. Then a slightly more open second half – with the better side going ahead relatively late on (but still with enough time for their opponents to get back in the game). They couldn’t, and the win was deserved.
Germany’s midfield has been utterly superb throughout this tournament, but here they simply found themselves against players that were better both in and out of possession. Xavi was the star man – completing more passes than any other player, running a greater distance than any other player, dictating the game from the centre of midfield, and providing the assist for the goal.
But maybe the most crucial difference was simply quality. Oezil, Schweinsteiger and Khedira are talented players on the up, but were up against Iniesta, Alonso and Xavi, three of the best midfielders of their generation. It would be unfair to say Germany’s trio were outclassed, but they were certainly second best on the day.
Spain 1-0 Germany: Pressing, passing and Puyol




Superb mate, great read as usual, explain things al lot better than I can, nothing I don’t agree with.
Pedro was superb, he should start in the final, the Germans will be back, really wish Mueller could have played tonight would have been very interesting.
thankyou for this site.at last some football lovers who understand the game.through reading inverting the pyramid and finding your site after the group stages i have found a great insight into the tactical side of things.i wondered why my choice of man of the match was so often at odds with andy gray,alan hansen and the itv online crew,now i know!
i have already read many archive posts and hotley await more. thought xavi was awesome tonight as was busquets and puyol,spine of the team!
I come here to read this type of quality. I could not have said it any better myself. The one thing you omitted that I thought was a large key in this game was the stellar play of Sergio Ramos who had his way on the right flank with Boateng.
I thought Boateng was very strong on the right flank, and the decision to replace him was the fatal call.
I thought it was a logical decision but not one that worked that well. At the start of the second half Germany kept playing the ball over to Boateng, but he wasn’t really that composed on the ball…Jansen is more of a ball player. Not sure if it had any impact on Germany losing though.
It’s hard to compare the two. Boateng started the match with a defensive brief and mindset, shown by the way he spent the first half following Iniesta infield. Jansen came on to attack, and at a time when Spain were gung-ho in their defend-the-lead mission. It’s easier to look accomplished on the ball when Ramos is sliding at you willy-nilly.
I think in midfield germans’ didn’t do the snatching game as well as they would have liked. That’s one area where they were too much content to give the possession to the spaniards. While in first half’s tactical and slwo game it was alright, second half when the game opened up, they needed to go for those balls. not that they didn’t try, but failed most of the times in 50-50 chances. that ensured spain’s supply line was always fluent.
Fair result, albeit disappointing but totally deserved for Spain in the end. We never looked like pressing them and it was always 4 against 3 in midfield. Even Germany had to drop so deep that on counters they simply did not have enough players up.
I was pessimistic about Trochowski starting and there’s a reason why. I don’t think he had a decent game at all. He is a one dimensional player who looks to cross. He doesn’t have the dribbling ability nor the intelligence to link up like Mueller. Furthemore his lack of running pinned Lahm back and eliminated one of his and Germany’s key assets going forward. This is why Mueller is so crucial for Germany, offensively but also defensively.
Ultimately this was a matchup of the finished product against a side just beginning and the outcome was not difficult to see. Spain deserved it although they have many critics with their conservative approach. But it’s worked and it deserves plaudits. May the best team win in the final and I certainly hope Germany gets consolation against Uruguay. Would be a shame to finish the tournament having nothing to show for it.
Agree regarding Trochowski / Müller.
Now rooting for two Klose goals against Uruguay.
…will be interesting to watch how he competes now against Olic for Bayern in the comming season … this performance migth give him an advantage over Olic…
I completely agree in regards to Trochowski. His presence was quite horrible throughout the game. Once Low brought on Kroos, and the Germans were a man down they started to have threatening possessions. This was because Lahm was forced to go forward. Had Lahm been threatening the entire game Spain would have been much less relaxed on defense. To me, it appears Fifa’s soft-ban procedure decided this match.
I also think Kroos would have been the better choice for the starting XI.
After watching 20 min I had to change the channel, it was obvious Germany was not able to win. Spain killed the midfield. Both Podolski and Trochowski were one limited player to much in this game. Schweinsteiger and Kedhira were kept so busy, they lost their offensive impulse.
Spain was just better. In passing, in running, in closing out. They played like robots. Cool, clear and dominant.
Trochowski was indeed very disappointing again. I can’t remember when he made his last good game for his club or the national team.
. Apart from that I was surprised about Germany’s weakness in the air against the mostly much smaller Spanish players.
I also think that Spain was absolutely dominating the game, but again failed to create really dangerous scoring opportunities. Germany could have used one of their few counter-attacks and defended one set-piece better. Then Spain would have lost and had no one to blame but themselves
But of course, the victory was absolutely deserved. Gratz to Spain.
I’m sad, I wanted to see Germany in the final.
I wonder how their team will be for Brazil 2014.
2014 looks good! Just need Brazil to mess up and its ours!
Even if Brazil messes up (which seems highly unlikely, they are gonna be the hosts), you’ll have to deal with Argentina, Italy (after their big-ass failure you just can expect that they’ll get their things straight) and, perhaps, a good Uruguay.
Argentina will be a threat. Uruguay wont have Forlan in 2014, can’t see them being a threat… I’m not sure Italy have the players coming through to be a real threat, but this world cup has shown the well organised balanced sides can do well, individual starts haven’t shone… Looking forward to 2014 already!
With only Klose and Friedrich older than 30, I am confident to look forward to the Maracanã
….me too, and statistics say that you win the 4th title after 24 years you won the 3rd title – see Brazil and Italy….so, who won it 1990
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Two statistics:
1) The one you already mentioned. Teams get their fourth title 6 World Cups after their third title.
2) Germany has won two of their titles two World Cups after Italy won one.
Ex: Italy won in the 1938 World Cup… two world Cups later…. 1950 and 1954 and Germany won it.
Italy won in the 1982 World Cup… two world Cups later… 1986 and 1990 and Germany won it.
Hope those statistics stand for the 2014 World Cup. LOL.
Yes, me too. Gutted. I felt the two best teams in the tournament were Brazil and Germany, and while Spain would be worthy World Champions in many ways, I feel the Dutch are not, but both Germany, and especially Brazil were the most deserving winners.
Spain are just too good when a goal ahead.
I was thinking of my current team of the tournament today, and it would 4-2-3-1, but in the 2 I am not sure to go with Khedira or Xavi (I know he played further up during this tournament) alongside Schweinsteiger, who I think is by far the player of the tournament, and hope he cements that position on Saturday.
Brazil deserved to win the trophy? They failed the first challenge they came up against.
Deserved maybe not the best word. Ramires’ suspension allowed that clown Melo to help eliminate Brazil.
Spain also failed their first challenge.
How about Holland? Perfect score so far and they haven’t failed any challenge -yet.
Perhaps you mean Brazil had the best potential of those teams that have lost thus far to win the tournament? I would agree. But for Julio Cesar’s goal error, I think they would have won the Holland match. They just did not seem to be emotionally prepared as a team to deal with coming from behind against a good side. However, had they not fallen behind at that point in the match I think they would have won it, and would have dispatched Uruguay easily. Spain would of course have been more difficult, but certainly well within the realm of possibility for the #1-ranked team in the world. Again, though, I would guess this Brazil side would have lost had they allowed Spain to score first. Thus concludes my counterfactual account of Brazil’s road to the championship.
Group stages are just that, they are there to get you ready for the knockout stages. Brasil crumbled under the pressure against the Dutch, for the most part the Dutch did not beat Brasil but Brasil beat themselves. Do not just blame Melo, the entire Brasil side looked amateur during the 2nd half of that game. They deserve nothing.
Brazil didn’t deserve anything? What did they do that made them so deserving?
IMO it would have come a little bit early for this German team (not only that the average age is relative young but the whole formation has relative few caps beside Lahm and Schweinsteiger) …. give this team 2-3 years and time to implement the other talents (Badstuber, Mats Hummels,…) and they will be one of the favourites….
As a football fan I am glad that Germany are out. I can’t take them seriously after they skipped over the round of 16 .(BTW Deutchephils, 4-0 against Oz, producing probably the worst defensive effort of the tournement so far, and 4-0 against Arg also flattered to deceive – 1 nil up for 64 minutes,AND THEN the second, and Arg immediatly flat out giving up… – do not Germany superb make. It does appear to make them overated and somewhat hyped.)
Spain, however, are beautiful.
Better for Holland if Germany were in the final, they’d beat them with a stick.
I tend to agree. However young, talented and well-organised Germany are, the only team who gave them a game was the one that knocked them out. Most of their opponents signed their own death warrants.
Pretty poor statement.
Do you believe that England and Argentina played poorly on purpose just to make the German side look better? C’mon, how many teams have ye seen giving up in a world cup game?
Is it not a quality to know an opponents weakness and exploit it? Spain didn’t show a weakness after del Bosque stopped bringing Torres. I actually believe, he only brought Torres in those games, that he was sure to win in the 25 minutes after taking him off.
In the first half Puyol nearly scored on a header from a set-piece. I don’t know enough to say whether or not it’s rare for him to come that far forward, but Germany should have been on warning.
Puyol hasn’t scored much throughout his career, but I have the impression abut 90% of his golas have been quite similar. Just like this one. And all of them in big games. Got to love the man.
Puyol does tend to go foward on corner kicks for FC Barcelona.
The Spanish/Barca back line have technical skills better than many offensive players on other teams. Look at some of Pique’s nice turns today, not to mention his great juke goal against Inter in Barcelona in the Champions League semi-final. These guys aren’t in the back line because they are destroyers without the technique to be offensive players.
When Alves was out for Barca last season one game, Puyol moved to his position as a marauding right fullback and was brilliant up the pitch, both with his ball-handling and his positional awareness (which lead to one of the goals).
This is an excellent point. Spain’s defenders are excellent with the ball and contribute significantly in the build up play.
Here’s Puyol running all the way up the field and assisting Torres for a goal against Ukraine in the 2006 World Cup: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HRZE8fdiDY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9t1pVrDJxA , this is against Deportivo in the Spanish league.
Puyol started out as a GK, then became a ST, then a DM, then a RB with the senior team for Barcelona (winning UEFA’s best RB and best club defender award) and has been a CB for a few seasons but plays LB and RB for Barcelona every once in a while.
Great article as usual, I really think Spain can do it. But I have one unanswered question: How do you stop Spain from passing the ball so easily? You can press, but what if they DO get the ball to Xavi-Iniesta-Alonso?
Marwan, you can beat Spain a couple ways, defensively teams will have a few options but offensively I believe they’ll have to attack as soon as they win possession.
Check out the way Inter beat Barcelona this year, once they won the ball it went forward, no sideways or backwards passes, immediately forward. The backline of Spain is usually stretched with Ramos/Capdevila forward, so a diagonal ball into the channel with the forward keeping possession, quickly supported by the midfield.
Holland have a group of players capable of doing this, Van Persie to keep the ball, Sneijder to get into position to receive the ball then play the killer ball to Robben or Kuyt.
Robben should also have a good day against Capdevila but Spain will be keying on him so it’ll be important for him to attack immediately.
hm, the killer ball? …from whom? ….the way how Spain controlled the space was brilliant and with only Robben and Sneijder Netherlands game is just too predictable….
…and if v. Bommel tries to stop Xavi and Iniesta he might be finally in for his red card….
Amen to that last one. An unmentioned brilliance of Spain’s game is just how well they draw fouls (cf. vs. Chile). Surely Van Bommel has gotten away with enough to have made the refs’ radar…
killer ball from the man who provides killer ball for inter milan called sneijder
Two things…
1) Think you need to flip Iniesta and Pedro in the tactical diagram. Pedro spent much of the match on the right making diagonal runs into the space if front of Germany’s center backs and creating space for Ramos to come down the wing and attack Boateng. Iniesta spent much of his time out on the left wing, occasionally cutting inside but often providing a outlet for Capdevila down the left wing.
2) I thought the pitch today seemed very slow and of the two team, I think that hurt Germany’s counter-attacking plan more than Spain’s ball control. Germany’s counters often broke apart from balls that arrived behind the intended target and in general, Germany’s speed advantage seemed partially nullified because of the slower pitch. I’m not saying that is why they lost, but their attacks and general movement was noticeably off the pace compared to their wins against England and Argentina. I’m interested to see the state of the pitch for the final as I think another slower pitch will benefit Spain and a faster one will benefit Holland.
Are there any diagrams to demonstrate point 1?
If so, I’d like to see as I think it’s a great tactical decision from Del Bosque. With Iniesta coming narrow from the left wing then that would explain the near invisibility of Lahm – concerned not only with a narrow-side midfielder and a striker who likes to drift to the left himself in Villa. With Pedro providing some natural width on the right (well, at least more than Iniesta) Boateng was pinned back too, with Ramos contributing brilliantly and bravely tonight. Lahm is a top quality full-back as much as a right-sided defender and he was missing tonight.
I’m still wondering about the Boateng – Jansen substitution. Boateng himself seemed irked at the decision and I’m wondering what exactly the thinking is behind removing a player who has performed very well throughout the tournament. What was Jansen put on to offer?
Yeah, Pedro was playing quite centered, just in front of the CBs, and Ramos acting almost as a winger on the right side. Iniesta was definitely more time on the left, though he showed up on the other flank as well.
I think Jansen was better going forward than Boateng, who wasn’t having such a good game against Ramos.
Jansen offered a real threat going forward on a few occasions and pinned back Sergio Ramos, who was more or less playing as a winger in the first half. Being left footed (as Boateng is not) allowed Jansen to provide overlaps for Podolski who often becomes very static when he receives the ball and rarely attacks the full back on the outside.
Check out any of the heat maps, e.g. in ESPN’s GameCast. Iniesta made heavy use of the left flank. Pedro had a pretty free role. Sergio Ramos, as you noted, was stretching the Spanish attack on the right, with Pique almost a right-back when in possession, while Busquets plugged the middle. Spain’s defence was brittle when Germany got a counterattack going (think of Ramos clipping Oezil on the edge of the box at the end of the first half), but Spain did an amazing job of preventing those counterattacks from getting going.
I think Lahm actually had a pretty good game, all things considered, though he didn’t make much of a meaningful contribution to the attack until after the goal.
I’ll have to take a look at those heat maps. Never thought of looking at ESPN, but the stats that FIFA put out wildly differ than those of the BBC for example, so i’m not sure who to trust…
I agree re. Lahm. He did his job well: Villa rarely came in from the left to cause much trouble as he has done the whole tournament long, and although Iniesta was supreme I felt he dealt with him well – standing off, jockeying and not commiting himself only to be skinned. Clever defending. It’s just a pity that as a result he was left pretty toothless in attack.
And finally…I do think Spain did well to stop the counters, but I also think some of the blame has to go to Germany who simply didn’t counter as well as they did in the previous 2 games. Kroos’ chance was the perfect example of what they have done best on the counter, but it simply didn’t happen after that. Great aerial work from Pique and Puyol to withstand the bombardment, but Germany were reduced to longballs and Gomez’s introduction signalled that they were simply not clicking in attack enough.
Great match though – let’s hope the final is just as exciting.
I can’t help thinking, though, that Spain’s pressing game was THE reason that Germany didn’t counter attack so well. Maybe it’s not that Germany had an off day it’s because Spain were superb when not in possession. They pressed all over the pitch and didn’t allow space. It was noticeable that when a German defender had the ball he was finding it hard to pass it out of defence and often resorted to kicking it long. Similarly, the Spanish holding midfielders were breaking up the play very effectively in the middle of the field. And finally, the Spanish made sure they got back in numbers very quickly when the Germans started to counter, something England and Argentina failed to do.
I guess the problem Germany were always going to have was going a goal down, because then they had to chase the game, rather than playing on the counter attack. Ironically, then Spain were then hitting them on the counter and looking the more likely to score.
I agree with both: Germany were somewhat off and Spain forced them not to play as well with their pressing. While I think it was mostly Spain’s pressing, Germany’s first touch on the ball, even when uncontested, was not as well-handled as in previous games, and a lot of the passing upfield was sloppy. You can certainly credit Spain with giving Germany less time and space to work with, which may have lead to more forced play by the Germans, even when they *did* have the time and space to work with. That could be a level of maturity: good players become more determined, accurate and patient with less time and space to work with, rather than more sloppy and frantic under pressure.
Well, as I said in my first post in this thread, I think the pitch was much slower last night than it had been in the previous matches against England and Argentina and that had a significant effect on the pace and smoothness of the German’s counters.
Jansen, at least from the interviews I´ve heard, is also the strategically most aware man in the german squad, and might have fulfilled Löw´s instructions better then Boateng did. He´s also one of Löw´s “pet” players (like Friedrich, Podolski or Klose) and would have probably been a starter in the tournament if not for his injury this season.
All in all I thought the substitutions were ok, I doubt there was a german player on the bench who could have made a difference (although pretty much anyone could have done better then the abyssmal Gomez).
Yeah this was what i thought too. The pitch was a bit heavy which suited Spain’s short passing low tempo game. And Germany do not look to play through the air much. Most of their goals and in general movement comes from passing along the ground. So a slow pitch slowed them down giving time for Spain to cover. Plus Mueller’s suspension seemed to have broken down their passing pattern.
Once again Saint Iker makes some key saves to keep game 0-0 until Spain can get crucial go ahead goal and avoid their achillies heel- conceding 1st (in only 2 losses last 2.5 years they conceded 1st to Switzerland, USA) Casillas quietly has been Spain’s hero & MVP http://dodgyatbest.blogspot.com/2010/07/spain-1-0-germany-instant-analysis.html
Bugger off with your blogspam.
Yeah that is getting quite annoying, Kanu
Casillas has had a great tournament.
Great stuff – I love the “Pique pick” setpiece play. Spain has run it a few times now, and it seems the guy who runs into his shadow almost always gets a free header.
It’s a very nifty play. The ball is played as if for Piqué, but Piqué isn’t there to head it, he is really a screen so the opponent won’t get to a position they can contest against the real header, who’s the one coming from behind, in this case, Puyol. He still tries to head it, but that’s back up in case his teammate hasn’t started his run in time and fails to head it.
I wouldn’t call it simple as the analysis says.
The Brazilians had something like that but instead of one person as screen it was a whole block of players, say four or five in a tight group. The ball would be kicked and all but one player would spread out like an expanding wave, leaving the single person in center with a relatively unmarked attempt.
you’re right. i noted that a while back. puyol scored on an identical play vs real madrid(don’t mention the score) in barca’s 08-09 season.
One ESPN analyst pointed this out, I believe:
Spain’s Xavi previously hit short corners to Iniesta before this corner. The fact that they kept on hitting short corners made three Germans crowd around the corner flag area, which left Puyol completely unmarked. I wouldn’t say that it was an incredibly simple header, but I am too shocked that the last passes to Villa were relatively ineffective.
Good win by Spain. You say Villa had a poor game, but he has played like that all tournament, accept he has got goals in other games. His all round play hasn’t been that good… Certainly not as good as Forlan, but you can’t argue with 5 goals.
Spain have managed to get to a world cup final playing at 80% and with starting places and substitutions based on reputations. They probably are the best side in the world! Maybe they will click in the final…
Spain has to play every game against the teams who are parking the bus. Had they played Argentina and England, I can only imagine what the score would have been. The final is going to be awesome – both teams will try to dictate the tempo; no counter attacking schemes, thank god…
….”no counter attacking schemes, thank god”…
I guess that’s exactely what we will see
..uphs .. double post…
Don’t the Dutch play a counter-attacking game? I expect the final to be almost a carbon copy of this game in terms of styles of play…Spain holding possession, Dutch looking to soak up pressure and hit Spain on the counter.
Completely disagree. Due to the high press imposed by Spain, the Dutch will be two passes away from creating a one-on-one with the keeper. The Germans could not exploit it but the Dutch have players who are a class (lets be real here) better and are capable of running behind Capdevilla and Puyol, and connecting with a killer pass. Of course, if SNeijder keeps ignoring the left side, we might not see another RVP goal this WC.
I’ve been hearing this ever since the WC started. That Capdevila and Puyol are too slow. That Ramos can’t defend. That Spain will be caught out on the counter-attack. But so far Spain has faced Portugal and Cristiano Ronaldo, and Germany and their young stars, and Paraguay and Valdez, but haven’t conceded a single goal.
Busquets for Hyundai Young Player Award, but he wouldn’t get it though because it’s only attacking players who get it.
Also, if Germany had equalised after that Pedro miss and had somehow gone on to win it, Pedro would have been crucified for life. To me, Pedro’s inclusion created more problems in that Villa found it harder to operate in the central role. If Pedro had scored, it would have made up for it but he didn’t. I still think another striker (pref. Llorente) up front is necessary to give Villa more space. Pedro or another winger should be subbed in only in the second half if Spain are still lacking in goals.
Germany’s young midfielders have been overrated. Silva is 24, Cesc (the next Xavi) is 23, Busquets and Martinez (the next Xabi) are 21, Mata and Pedro are 22 and they are all already world class. And 3 of them have already won the Euros.
“The Hyundai Best Young Player Award will go to the tournament’s most impressive player born on or after 1 January 1989.” http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/awards/index.html
Busquets certainly played a great world cup, but he does not meet the age criteria set by Fifa. Personally I think Thomas Müller deserves to win, he is far from overrated as you could see from watching his replacement play.
It pretty has to be Mueller unanimously, doesn’t it? Unless somebody wants to throw Ayew a consolation vote.
Definitely Mueller. I thought Oezil would qualify, but I guess he’s a bit older than I thought he was.
Funny how the Puyol goal seems a copy of the 1-1 goal in the Real Madrid 2 – FC Barcelona 6.
That came to mind immediately as he scored it, looking at both in replay, both came from Puyol running from deep behind Pique, the difference is that against Germany, Puyol leapt over Pique, who was also going for the ball whereas in El Classico, Pique dropped off towards the back post, taking his man with him and Puyol was all by himself.
Puyol the Octopus?
ok, lol.
I was hoping Pedro or Navas would play ahead of Torres. Pedro played well, but he should have really passed that ball to Torres. He will regret it once he looks at the replays.
Spain played well while Germany looked dazzled and cuffed in the midfield. Spain vs. Holland will be interesting game. I am looking forward to the pre-game analysis
Good analysis, as always.
I was also very impressed by Pique and Puyol, I took note of their work as much as I did Spain’s midfield. Puyol was winning headers against Klose and Gomez (who are both considerably taller, not to mention good headers of the ball) and making excellent interceptions, and Pique’s vision and awareness was great. I thought their efforts played a part in preventing successful German attacking plays akin to those we saw against Australia, England and Argentina. Also, the few times they did err, Casillas had their back.
Great writeup, as usual.
I thought Pedro was immense tonight. Spain had both better movement and width in the front line than with Torres in there. I think he ran out of gas and by the end was a problem at both ends struggling to do anything defensively and then the obvious gaffe on the breakaway with Torres. If Del Bosque had subbed him out a few minutes after the goal then he would have been my MotM. I really hope the end doesn’t persuade Del Bosque to leave him out.
Spain played well, but I was disappointed with Germany. With the benefit of hindsight, I think they should have followed Chile’s example.
It’s a pity that Mueller was suspended. I think Germany might have done better in attacking areas with him playing. To have a player miss a World Cup semi-final for receiving two yellow cards in two different games is ridiculous.
even if u look at both cards. they are both totally no yellows… its a shame, but all referes failed a lot at this cup. i hope there will be no mistakes at the final
certainly mueller was big miss, but i think germany must have bettar strategy to cope up wid dis, like pedro did without outform torres..
nd its d game all about, and afterall germany was outplayed by spain
I know Germany is certainly not the only team to have this happen, but their track record is pretty pitiful in this regard recently.
2002 = missing Ballack in final
2006 = missing Frings in semi-final
2010 = missing Müller in semi-final
Then again, Germany got incredibly lucky with that Lampard goal, oh well.
its hard to make it the whole tournament without missing somebody eventually.
Especially when u keep on winning!
Don’t forget in 2002 getting lucky with the Frings blatant handball on the line not called. If that was called, Penalty plus Red Card, if the US equalized at the spot with a man advantage, that German team would have been in deep trouble. They’ve been very, very lucky in the World Cup.
Same rules for everyone ………of course except Van Bommel.
If you don’t want to miss out don’t get the cards…..
I also agree that Muller was a key absence; but I don’t think he would have made enough difference to allow a German win.
imho the key for spain winning this game is much more simple. germanys wingers podolski and trochowski just had an awesome bad game. they stayed very wide, both in defense and attack. as a conclusion, schweini and khedira didnt find them when building up the game, and in defense they were just too passive and allowed capdevilla and especially ramos much time and space to support spains attack.
If one of them drops deeper to the midfield maybe spains domination will be more disturbed and germany can create more chances.
And btw, Jansen had a superb game! he provided germanys attacks with some nice runs and good flanks, i really liked him today.
I tend to agree. I hoped for Jansen coming in as Boateng could not provide the pace Germany needed on the left wing.
And Podolski and Trochowski really didn’t help much in the build-up play forcing the defenders and other midfielders to play a lot of risky, rather aimless passes. And to run much more than in all the other games (check out Schweinsteiger’s 12km).
when i saw the germans sub out boateng i figured they were showing signs of fatigue. They had to chase the ball around for too many minutes< soon after came came the next sub for trochowski which obvoisly was looking for fresh legs and maybe something else which never came. Not having muller on the field allowed spain to fell very confortable involving everyone in the build up. The punishing counter was not there, i feel Muller would have not forgiven them on that cross from Podolski. Brazil paid the same price in not having any game altering variables, you can not compare Elano who had 2 goals with Danny Alves. Spain always will be a step ahead in this tournament and should win the cup.
Close game, but Spain deserved the win. I’d rate both teams defensive performance highly, but Spain’s offense was clearly more fluid than Germany’s today.
Ramos especially played excellent and provided a big threat that forced both Podolski & Boateng into defensive positions. This resulted in very few options when Germany had possession. In my opinion, this was key to the victory (though obviously the whole team contributed in order to allow him to do that – Busquets/Alonso in particular)
Pedro – if we forget about his awful breakaway – was everything Özil had been in the past, but was not today. Where as both of them had not much luck in central positions due to great off the ball movement by both defensive midfield pairings, Pedro was able to expose space on the flanks much better.
As far as Trochowski is concerned, he didn’t have any blunders but the lack of creativity and vision in comparison to Müller was exposed once again. Kroos did make one awful pass that lead to a counter, but he also was much more involved in creating chances for teammates. Sadly his shot was badly placed. He was the youngest player of the team though and I would be surprised not to see him back for three more world cups.
To all Dutch & Spanish fans, good luck in the final. As much as I wanted Germany to win, if your teams beat Brazil & Germany at the world cup, you truely deserve to be in the final and write world cup history.
Congratulation Spain! … I hoped for Germany, but after 20 minutes it was recognizable that it was just a copy of the European Final 2008. No doubt, Spain played brilliant and are the deserved winner. The passing of Xavi and Iniesta were brilliant and it was a masterpiece from the schoolbook how Spain controlled ball and space. The young German squad shouldn’t be too disappointed, they showed great sport and entertaining games and also fair play (the referee had not much to do).
Thomas Mueller … I don’t think he wouldn’t have made an impact … Spain was just too good …
My money for the final would be on Spain – I can’t see how the Netherland could interrupt their passing. I assume it will be a little bit more work for the referee then, but if Spain can repeat their performance they will be the clear WC winner 2010!
any guess why boateng was replaced? i thought he had a decent game.
I would guess that Loew saw that the only Spanish threat up the right wing was coming from Ramos, who would either cross onto a German head or cut the ball back deep into central midfield, and figured that they didn’t need a stay-at-home LB and instead put in Jansen, who plays more as a LW and could overlap with Podolski to put balls into the Spanish box.
he wasn’t providing much support in the final third of the pitch, also i had the feeling his positioning was too middle-ish, leaving ramos too much space on several occasions..
he has had his best games as a CB imo.. i’m really looking forward to see how he does at man city.. and which position he’ll play there
I guess the plan was to develop more pressure on the left side and to push harder. With Boateng there was nearly no cohesion with Podolski and Podolksi was more and more busy in the defence…. no danger at all from this side. With Jansen it definitely changed, but it was still not engough to cause serious trouble….
Boateng was decent, but he did not provide any offensive options and was struggling during that time with Pedro/Iniesta and Ramos consistently trying to exploit his side.
Jansen provided more of an offensive option, though seeing him watch Puyol score that header was painful – why didn’t he see it coming and try to intervene
Boateng had just gotten abused by Pedro twice on the wing. I think it was clear that Spain were targeting him and the danger was growing.
Great game and match report.. Disagree regarding spain keeping the ball at one-nil .. For ten minutes after the goal they fell back and let germany come onto them .. I thought they were panicing. Unlike their last two games when they passed their way to the final whistle .. Germany just couldnt create the opening they were probably knackered from chasing the ball all game
Agreed, I missed that on the first read. Spain looked much less composed than normal and were chasing it and hitting them on the break more than controlling the play like usual.
I think Del Bosque should have brought on Fabregas (if healthy), Navas or Silva for Pedro and probably one of those for Iniesta as well as both seemed tired and Spain unusually needed help controlling play. I thought Torres coming on was strange.
I think seeing Villa noticeably run out of gas on a break shortly after the goal is probably why, he looked like he was dead out there and Friedrich took the ball away from him far too easily. Torres was the best choice out of the remaining forwards as he’s the fastest player who’s also used to playing a high line. It almost paid off as he was in an excellent position if Pedro had passed and Xavi just missed him on a couple of long passes.
Weird stat of the day was that Spain only had 51% of possession (they’ve had 57%-63% in all the rest of their matches), because Germany had most of the ball after the goal. It was only at the very end that Spain got their defensive tiki taka going.
I was surprised at how little tiki-taka Spain
was able to do after the goal, I guess that’s
a credit to German, but Spain at least had alot
of counters
id not give germany credit for this, in my sight it was spain not backing down but trying to make fast counters with diagonal passes to make it 2-0 and finish up the game. i was quite surprised by this as well though, having looked at previous spain matches when they were leading
He was barely getting back and looked overworked< so it was a good opportunity to try to get 2 out of one by replacing him. great call but no glory!
Good article as usual, and out of interest, is it just one person doing the articles?
I underestimated Spain, mainly underestimating the work they do off the ball. Before the game I thought Spain would actually get over run in midfield, I didn’t think Alonso and Busquets would be able to handle the runs of Ozil and Khedera, and I didn’t think Xavi would be able to limit the time Schweinsteiger always seemed to have on the ball, I admit, I was wrong.
Busquets was immense, as the article says, 39 of 40 passes, but that doesn’t tell the story of how he marked the very talented Ozil out of the game, Alonso helped in this also. Spain’s ”Tiki Taka” is effectively kind of a defensive tactic, as the opposition can’t do much if they don’t have the ball, and Spain just keep the ball for fun, the way they play really is intriguing to watch. The defence of Spain was also good, much better game by Pique, dominant in the air and he contolled Klose, and as for Puyol, I’m not a fan, but I can’t really criticise him with the way Spain are keeping clean sheets, and the header for the goal was a pure example of how to attack a ball with your head. As for Capedevilla, weak link? He’s a weak link I wouldn’t mind in the England team, he’s sound defensively, and he helps with the Tiki Taka game, he’s always available for a pass, and like all the Spainish players, he rarely wastes posession.
One note on Germany, enjoyed watching them, apart from the England game, and they leave the tournament with alot of credit, along with many enhanced reputations, Mertesacker, Ozil, Muller, Schweinsteiger, Klose, Neuer, all in my team of the tournament I would say. And one last point, would the game have been different if Muller was playing? Unfortunately we’ll never know…
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I could just imagine how spain would be with dangerous attacking out side fullbacks. teams would have to just recoil and ride out the storm. would be interesting to watch!
Well, they do have one (Ramos) on the right, and I don’t think the could really play one as attacking on the left without compromising their defensive solidity unless they replaced Alonso with a ball winning defensive midfielder. Seems that most teams like to play one attacking fullback with the opposite one sliding across and almost creating a three man defensive when going forward. look at Barcalona, Manchester United, Inter, and both Germany and Spain today. If you want to play with two like Brazil, you need to play two full defensive mids.
not with the ball control of the spanish team. and ramos just happens to be on a team that opens huge spaces for him with little pressure. I guess that is why Mourinho wants him for a center back.
actually, i think Ramos is massively over-rated
- almost NEVER delivers an effective final ball
- is often pretty selfish
- poor one-on-one defender (look how he got totally skinned near the end by Podolsky
- gives away stupid fouls (again, near the end a ridiculously over physical header attempt)
- poor positioning (see Ibra’s league-deciding goal vs RM at Camp Nou last season)
I agree that if Spain had a great right back (or even Lahm), they would be much more effective, because as others note, the system gives Ramos huge amounts of time and space. he just doesn’t do much with them.
I completely agree. Ramos is conspicuous in his rampaging down the right, but not so impressive when you look at the end product.
Unlike Ramos Lahm IS a great right back.
He can generally defend well. He can actually beat a player going forward and his crossing and passing is generally good.
I think the German squad was not experienced enough to cope with the Spanish pressure. These days journalists declared Ballack as not fitting into this German team. But I think he might have been helpful today.
Schweinsteiger is used to play together with Van Bommel (I know many hate him here). Ballack could have played a similar role, disturbing the Spanish game. Khedira was simply not able to provide support to Schweinsteiger.
The germans were elavated by the Argentinians lack of coaching, with the proper selection of argentine players and a half way decent manager the Germans might have still won but would have been better prepared for this match. I do give them credit for their achivements but under the same circumstances spain would win 3 out 5 with one draw.
The addition of Pedro, as the analysis notes, was the key if you ask me (though I agree with Jonathan that the diagram ought to flip him with Iniesta). Most obviously, it let Spain play with 11 men this time, rather than 10 + 1 non-entity (Torres). But, more importantly, it gave Spain that numerical advantage in midfield that was too much for Schweinsteiger — often he was responsible for both Xavi and Iniesta on one play, which is no good at all. It wasn’t that Schweinsteiger was bad, it was that he lacked appropriate help — I even saw Klose dropping way back sometimes for (attempted) tackles near the box.
If Spain field the same 11 against Holland, the Dutch will be very happy to have de Jong back in the side, since they are going to be asking a lot from both him and van Bommel. As noted, the Germans had nightmares with the Ramos/Pedro and Capdevila/Iniesta pairs on the wings; this is something the Dutch can also hope to do better with, especially down the right against Ramos, given Kuyt’s superior defense to Podolski’s and van Bronkhorst’s seeming rejuvenation in this tournament (my TV is still recovering from the impact of his goal).
I’m not saying the Dutch will win. All I’m saying is that the Dutch seem, on paper, better suited to handle the areas where the Germans were exploited today.
We know, of course, what the Dutch weaknessess are. I’ve been shocked by some of Heitinga’s positioning, and Spain can make a team pay for those mistakes as quickly as Brazil or anyone else in the world can. When pressed by Uruguay, van Bommel and de Zeeuw looked incredibly uncomfortable and gave up the ball far too often. And van Persie? Meh. Kuyt (who has had a fantastic tournament, IMO) may be a better choice up front, but you obviously can’t give up his defense outside. Huntelaar, then? Logic would say that Robben can beat Capdevila down the wing, but who, then, does he cross the ball to? That aerial behemoth Wesley Sneijder, I guess…
As we know, there are questions for Holland. But they also provide some interesting answers to the problems Spain posed today.
the germans were content with having boateng deal with ramos they never tried to double him. plus his crosses had no #9 to find, so they knew he would just circulate the ball and cause no threat.
As usual very thoughtful analysis and the assertions made are what most knowledgeable fans would generally agree with (and wish they could boil down as effectively as whoever writes this stuff does).
For me though, it’s very telling that, in the end, it was the toughness and determination of Puyol that was the deciding factor. Spain reluctantly put corners (and crosses in general) into the mixer, favouring instead their short passing, constant ball movement approach. But you have to be able to do both and you need the players to willing to throw themselves at corners as Puyol did. Beyond Pique, and maybe Ramos, I don’t see that grim determination in the Spanish lineup. That paucity increases Puyol’s value to Spain immensely and it was the difference today.
Your description of it makes it sound like it was a gimme. As a former centreback, I can tell you that was definitely no gimme and took the right combination of determination, calmness and technique.
Sometimes you can draw up all the tactics you want and implement a game plan that seems flawless. When that still doesn’t work, you put the tactics board away and send a player like Puyol up to settle it.
I love this comment. Perfectly said!
fascinating game, spain were outstanding without the ball
still not convinced by busquets though. ZM, you say “Busquets’ positional sense is exemplary, for he manages to constantly take up positions which simultaneously make him available for a pass, and be in place to prevent opponents attacking if the move dies down”.
well he was absolutely nowhere to be seen when oezil burst through the centre of spain’s midfield, and was possibly brought down by ramos. on another day that’s 1-0 germany and spain a man down, because the DM was nowhere. actually i thought oezil got away quite a few times, his touch unfortunately deserted him.
schweinsteiger turned busquets very, very easily early on, and apart from a couple of good quick passes in the second half, i thought the slugggish nature of his play slowed spain down, allowing germany to recover and prevent a counter-counter attack. it’s all very well saying he helps keep possession when spain score a header from a corner and go 1-0 up, but his presence seems to make them less dangerous to me, and less likely to score. but more importantly, every time i see him play he seems to lack the defensive qualities that a DM ought to possess. fortunately for him, he’s playing for spain and barcelona, so those weaknesses are very rarely exposed, especially when oezil has a poor day with the ball
he’s not a DM or a simple “destroyer”. They don’t need or want a destroyer. Look how many cards Spain have received this tourney. They win the ball by pressing and closing down not by crunching tackles. There’s no need for him to be a destroyer and they probably don’t want one anyway. How many simple DMs or destroyers are their in the top six Spanish teams (Barca, Real, Sevilla, Valencia, Atletico, and Mallorca)? He did his job. He makes them less dangerous but also more functional. Even Spain have to be pragmatic. He’s doesn’t have to offer any brilliant passes either. They keep possesion better, he covers the flanks when Ramos bombs forward and does a great job breaking up play. It’s easy to look at one or two incidents and lay the blame on one player when Pique, Alonso, Puyol and Ramos are all responsible. Honestly, Spain have lost twice in four years. It’s hard to point to a weak link. Has Busquets covering stopped US like counter attacks? I think so. Loads of people were calling for heads even when this team is winning. Why?
Alonso, who is receiving a good deal of media coverage in the English speaking press, misplaced quite a few balls and was involved in quite a few fouls.
i think spain have looked vulnerable to the counter attack in all of their games. this stems from them not having enough dangerous options in the final third which leads to too many moves breaking down, which is caused by them having a player in midfield who offers absolutely zero threat, at the expense of them having any width. clearly spain deliberately want to play narrow, which of course results in capdevilla and particularly ramos ending up as wingers. can you tell me what has resulted from this, because from what i’ve seen, on the countless occasions they’ve got the ball around the opposition box they’ve produced absolutely nothing, and often failed to even recycle position back and across.
i’m not suggesting spain necessarily need a destroyer, i wouldn’t describe senna as a destroyer, but he was excellent defensively and a dangerous passer and had a great long-range shot. busquets does close off the space well with his positioning, and i suppose xavi, iniesta and alonso work well in tandem in this regard, but i don’t think that’s anything spain couldn’t train someone else to do, albeit someone with better defensive/physical attributes and some offensive threat.
someone posted further down that busquets was excellent, which i suppose is true because he does exactly what he’s asked to do. so my criticism is not so much of him (although i admit that i find extremely unlikeable), but more of del bosque. we shouldn’t forget that spain have scraped their way through to the final (they lost to switzerland and could easily have gone out to portugal and paraguay) whereas i feel a more attacking style would have seen them romp through playing magnificent football.
I LOVE Puyol – but part of the reason Spain allows counter-attacks down the middle is because an overly-aggressive Puyol pinches and gets caught.
Busquets does his job very well. Thwarts attacks with subtelty and maintains offensive flow.
Hold up. Spain struggle in the final third because teams play 10 behind the ball not because they don’t have enough options. Ramos and Capedvila are also naturally attacking fullbacks. Does CR9 or Kaka provide the width at Real or does Ramos? This system is made for the players that they have.
If Senna was healthy then he would probably be in the squad. At the same time, it seems like you’re expecting Spain to play like they did at the Euros. Teams have seen them play and they’ve seen Barcelona play. There’s a script on how to beat Spain and Barcelona: Sit back, counter, take and early lead and sit back some more. Spain know that. Magnificent football is nice but winning is probably more important (maybe not to neutrals. Busquets stops those CR9 and Oezil counter attacks and gets the team back into their game. Sorry Sacchi, not every player has to show multiple talents even though I think Busquets is quite talented.
yeah i see what you’re saying laddie, but capdevilla and certainly ramos have been the players getting into the most advanced, dangerous positions in space, and between them they’ve produced absolutely nothing, and often lost the ball.
i’d tell them to play more defensively to prevent dangerous counter-attacks, and have someone who can actually produce on the edge of the box and in wide areas. silva and navas sitting on the bench while ramos bombs forward 80 yards and loses it
Steve, won’t you in this case be switching out one defensive player (Busquets) for two defensive fullbacks? The part in front of defense is still more dangerous than the flanks or even the channels, isn’t it?
Who’ll be in your preferred team then, given that it’ll be a back four with Navas and Silva?
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Spain deserved to win this, they were by far the better side tonight, though Germany defended well for most of the match.
I think Löw should have played Kroos instead of Trochowski, but even he (or Müller for that matter) couldn’t have stopped Spain.
Still it’s a young team with great potential that has played a far better world cup than I would have expected.
This was basically a carbon copy of the Euro 2008 final, except the goal didn’t come earlier. Germany really had nothing in attack and showed how limited they were when there was little room in midfield.
If Jonathon Wilson is correct, the team with the best fullbacks will win the World Cup, then Spain will beat the Dutch. Ramos and Capdevilla have been, without a doubt, the best pairing in the tournament.
Has anyone noticed the very strong correlation between team formations and result?
All teams That Played a 2 man midfield against Germany all loose 4:0 or 4:1 [Argentina, England, Australia]
All teams that played a 3 man midfield all beat Germany 1:0. [Serbia, Spain]
Ghana played something in between a 2 and a 3 man midfield and lost 1:0
Is this coincidence, if not the managers of certain teams have to take a look at themseves for the blame.
Don’t think it’s coincidence at all if you look at how dismally slow the German attack was today (and against Serbia) when they weren’t getting dispossessed in the midfield. The other problem that Germany have is the outnumbering in the midfield forces them to keep Lahm back.
It seems fair to say that Spain turned to alternative tactical weapons today, while the Germans at this point have few other options than the 4-2-3-1.
when i watched how ramos has plenty of space in the right, i wonder what if spain has robben-type players. just saying
doesn’t it occur to you that this Spanish team and the 1974 Dutch team share something in common:
both are based on the club which are domestically successful: Ajax and Barcelona
both have distinct style of playing than the rest teams
both are heavily influenced by Johan Cruyff
I heard Cruyff said something like “I’m Dutch, but I support the Spanish style of playing”. Have not found the source yet.
Interesting observation. Also, noteworthy how versatility is a common theme between the two: the Dutch with their interchanging of positions and the Spanish with their defenders who attack so readily etc.. However, if Spain go a goal up on Sunday I don’t suppose they will toy with their opposition in the same way that Holland did to their detriment in ‘74…
Congratulation to Spain, who sees a group of players reach their peak come thru their own youth systems and develop into a world class team, possibly winning the world cup.
Congratulation to Germany, a group of youngsters that have so much promise, dominating in the future like Spain did in 2008 and 2010.
Germany simply lost by experience, pretty scary to see a bunch of young players playing so well, even against a superb side like Spain. Not to mention they beat England and Argentina to get there. Can’t wait until 2012 and 2014 to see the brand new German team again.
Germany had Spain under control. with Neuer performing exceptionally during this whole tournament, we never really got the impression that Spain would score as long as the Germans kept their Spanish counterparts in front of them and away from goal. But then Puyol showed up, and in an instant, the match was over.
The fast and technical gifted Spanish team will always have Germany’s number, for the Germans are too slow and too stiff to maintain constant track of their Spanish counterpart. (quicker teams like Paraguay did this much better than the Germans.)
Many have great expectation for this German team; I, however, don’t share in that belief. Position by position, they still have a lot of holes: the central defenders are too slow to deal with world-class forwards, Boateng is merely adequate, Klose is not a game changer, Podolski’s world cup went downhill much like his career, and Ozil has proven to be profligate in front of goal. In the cases of the CB’s, Klose and Podolski, there are no clear replacement (which is why they played as much as they did).
..strange views, but everyone is entitled to his own opinion
Indeed, considering that the Germans had escaped disaster three times at that point, had created only one viable (and always hopeful) chance, and were being outshot something like 14-3.
I always wanted to think that the Germans were about to break on the kind of quick counter that they owned against D10S, too, but it just wasn’t there.
They should be something to watch in 2014, though, if they move the WC out of Brazil at the last minute…
Why are people assuming that Brazil will win the World Cup in 2014? People are making out to be like a formality.
Maybe it is because people see how FIFA and their oh so impartial referees and disciplinary commissions respectively favour certain teams (2010 Spain: Villa not suspended, Ramos not being sent off with 2 yellows for kicking at Podolski and fouling Özil just outside the penalty area, among other incidents). Brazil are very likely to be one of them in 2014. Then maybe it’s because they should not have lost against Holland if it weren’t for the ridiculously stupid Melo…
Concerning the likeliness to score I actually have to agree. It didn’t seem to me that Spain really had an idea how to outplay the German defense the way they are used to play. Argentina had the same shots from distance that were mainly targeted directly on Neuer (who actually stated in a German newspaper that leaving just one gap in defense which will be covered by the goalkeeper is the German way to have technically superior teams shoot from distance instead of passing through their defensive line).
They Puyol header was pretty decisive, although I wonder what would have happened, had Kroos scored that volley (in Bundesliga 9 out of 10 times he does!).
If wishes were horses, beggars would ride.
This is a bizarre comment. Why should Villa have been suspended?
You are on the wrong site bro. Go to goal.com.
I may be wrong, but perhaps Loew played Klose, Podolski and the CB’s because they helped get the team to a WC semifinal in spectacular fashion? As for them being the “holes” in the German team, I suppose that they were really small holes to have allowed them to finish 3rd, 2nd, and 3rd/4th in the last three competitions. As for there being no replacements for them, I suggest that you watch the Bundesliga a little to see where young players like Muller, Oezil, Boateng, Schweinsteiger, Neuer etc, come from. German football is in a much better state than it is in many of the other big European nations like Italy and England. Being second to Spain and consistently among the top 3 or 4 in the world is no catastrophy.
There are some great CB talents coming up in the Bundesliga. Like Höwedes (Schalke) or Hummels (Dortmund) or Reinartz (Leverkusen), plus Boateng and Badstuber who are natural CBs as well. They all are much better in build-up play than the current Mertesacker/Friedrich couple. The first three I’ve mentioned will be playing in European club competitions (Schalke CL, the other EL) for the first time next season.
If you had just started with “Many have great expectations for this German team..” and binned the first bit I’d agree with you more. There’s been a lack of centre backs who can dominate and Boateng to me generally looked tentative. Klose is a game changer with the type of service he needs but Podolski did fade and Ozil lacked consistency.
Don’t agree that the Germans had Spain under control though.
I think the way Inter defeated Barcelona in the Champions League is instructive to help understand where Germany went wrong. If you recall, Inter managed to exploit Barca at the Giuseppe Meazza in two main ways:
- By playing balls over the top of Barca’s high line. Today, Spain did not play a noticeably high line. Part of the reason for that was Alonso’s presence. Having him retrieve the ball from the defenders negated the need for Pique to move further up the field.
- By taking advantage of Barca’s sluggishness after a road trip and turning their pressing against them. Sneijder and Stankovic showed up with impressive defensive displays in that game. Tonight, Germany were simply unable to press their direct opponents successfully. Oezil and the two wingers were very bad defensively, leaving Khedira and Schweinsteiger overworked and unable to see anyone when they had the ball.
Now perhaps Podolski and Trochowski should have gambled and stayed higher up the park but Oezil, the man you would pick to play them in, was having an off day. If it was shattering to see the amount of possession Spain were having close to the Germany goal, it was doubly shattering to see your playmaker unable to hit simple passes.
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I’m glad everyone has chosen to highlight Pedro’s presence; he turned in the type of “missing link” performance Spain had been crying out for. Experiments with Silva proved that he was unable to provide width. Navas demonstrated a lack of composure and inability to keep possession. Torres an inability to play like a professional footballer and Cesc, although untried, would again have presented a width problem. Pedro somehow offered a best of all worlds performance by acting as a playmaker and winger with impressive aptitude.
I think it slightly disingenous of football commentators to point out that despite Spain’s build-up play, the goal came ONLY from a corner, as if scoring from a set-piece is a different beast to how Spain normally play — seen empirically, the goal came from an incisive Xavi pass (albeit from the corner flag), which was as good as you’ll ever see against a zonal marking defence: right into the blind spot, perfectly weighted to coincide with his captain’s late run, at the perfect height for an offensive header.
Also, after you’ve been razzle-dazzled by tiki-taka at all angles, surely the knockout punch is the straightforward one you never see coming, ie. a haymayker right down the middle.
Far from a corner being an exception to Spain’s play, one might say that it was the obvious consequence of their style that when goals come against a defence designed to deal with the complex problems they pose, those goals are inevitably relatively simple.
i agree the corner was a cleverly taken one. many of the previous corners were played short to iniesta from xavi and the germans expecting the same had 3 players devoted to stopping the short corners and this meant puyol was unmarked in the center and could easily head the ball in
Anyone else realise that 7 players out of 11 are from barcelona?
Well, switch Ramos by Alves, then move out Alonso, slide Xavi a few meters back-rigth, insert Messi in place. Fine tune Pedro and Iniesta (starting) positions and there we go.
well not the most thrilling game that i was expecting.
i think the world has been robbed from i of the greatest finals of all time
if the final would have been between brazil and spain that would have been great both teams out plays opponents in possesion and class but we won’t see whose better when up against top quality and similar style.
now spain will win the final hands down. del bosque should be able to keep his and his players calm and collected unlike brazil and so netherlands stands no chance.
probably 2-0 atleast for spain.
a little disappointing to see no german attack the ball like they’re supposed to before puyol scored. this will have all the anti-zonal marking people claiming zonal marking doesn’t work. again.
man-marking never conceded goals. yup yup. never. ever.
Spain 2010 reminds me so much of Italy 2006. To start both rely on strong defensive ends, that are able to consistently cut down opposition attacks, and (at least in this WC for Spain) create few chances, but are effective on converting them. Spain’s defensive system deserves a special mention, since it’s superb. They choke opposition attacks by drawing defenders on the side the attack is being played, and if an opposition player holds de ball for too long, he’s closed down almost always by three Spanish players. Just like Italy relied on theirs.
Another similarity is the composition of their squads, since both featured top goalkeepers, CB, and ball playing midfielders, as the team’s backbone. It’s reasonable to state that Puyol is Spain’s Cannavaro, and that Xavi, and Pirlo play similar key-midfield roles for their teams.
Overall the biggest similarity is how both squads come into the WC, both arrived with a mature squad, with almost all of its players in the top form of their careers. Both Spain now, and Italy back in 2006 count with the deepest, most talented 23 man squads of all the 32 teams.
It has aided Spain by providing tactical versatily, and the ability to respond to in-game situations (something that both Brazil and Argentina desperately lacked). And in italy’s case it played a bigger role. Since early on they lost De Rossi and Nesta, and where able to fully replace them with Materazzi, and Gatusso, and had lots of options to choose upfront (Totti, Del Piero, Toni, Iaquinta, Giraldino).
This might be controversial, but the way Spain win, their key players, squad depth/talent, and how important good defense has been for them to get this far, reminds me a lot of Italy.
Spain, when in possession, often had Busquets dropping alongside Puyol and Pique to form something like a 3-man defence.
Are Spain doing a Brazil ?
I just posted below and then read your comment. Glad you saw it too!
They already do this in Barca.
Ooh, see below
A question for you ZM. Did you notice, as I did, how at times when Spain have the ball they turn into a system which incorporates three at the back. Busquets (who was brilliant) dropped into the hole between Pique and Puyol to form a back three as Ramos and Capdevilla pushed into very advanced roles. This allowed Pique to dictate play from the right-hand side of defence and move balls around like an auxilary sweeper. I think the comparisons with some of the sweepers of old are looking very apt now – what a player he is. I really think it is the fluidity of their system which makes them look so strong – they chop and change positions and formations at will. Wonderful stuff. Game of the tournament for me.
Yes! I didn’t comment on it, maybe I should have done, but Busquets was so deep. I’ve touched on it before – http://www.zonalmarking.net/2010/04/22/is-the-sweeper-set-for-a-return-to-prominence/ – involving those three, Busquets, Pique, Puyol – at Barca.
I had read that article before as well as Johnathan Wilson’s but for some reason it only really struck me for the first time in this game as it seemed to happen time and time again when Spain had the ball. For Spain (and Barca) it is Pique who ends up playing as the ball playing sweeper but from a position of the right of three-man defence.
That diagram you use is very perceptive – as this is exactly what happens with Pique pushing right, Puyol pushing left and Busquets dropping into the middle with the full-backs pushing into midfield.
Do you think it is beneficial to have the ball playing defender on the left or right rather than in the middle – perhaps this means there is always a shield in the middle who is not concerned with playmaking (the opposite of traditional sweeper systems) – or do you think this is simply a quirk of having a defender as talented as Pique in the team?
Maybe Marquez had done some advising to Pique
It’s pretty obvious that Spain is influenced by Barca’s tactics.
That’s what the DM (in Barca) does, drops deep to form a back 3 and the two CB go wide while the LB/RB go forward.
Don’t miss Valdes role in this Barcelona classic aperture ! Change the pieces but this move is played by baby players every day on FCB school. Obviously Del Bosque adopted many basic moves (lets say “near inconscient moves”) in that we can consider a good decission.
The great Puyol’s header was previosly trained over and over with Xavi during this season, they did in front RM (2-6)… Recently Puyol revealed that they asked Del Bosque to try. Then did it, and worked as expected.
In addition Pedro revealed that Del Bosque told him “Play like you do in Barça, this kind of moves are just I’m expecting from you today”. Amazing
Kabul Blue – completely agree. It’s a wonderful sight to watch Xavi and Iniesta spooling out those passes, dozens at a time, leaving the defence brooding over missed challenges. ramos was terrific. Boateng out of his depth, which is why Löw took him off. Don’t think Müller would have made much difference – the whole German side was outplayed and outthought.
I’ve got to say that i’m fairly disappointed. Not by your article, but by the german side
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. I think the Dutch will show us how to play the Spanish – who are, in my view, very vulnerable in defense, Casillas is not the best atm, Puyol has seen his best days.
It was all 2008 again. After 3 minutes into the game i knew they had their pants full. No Tackles, always 2 meters away from the opponent. I seriously think “how can you lose a WC half final without one yellow card?”. Yes, Spain was and is good – but we made them look good. There was no fighting, we just let them play their tikitaka – our offensive was a joke with Özil, Podolski and Trochowski not capable of holding a single ball, thus Klose hanging in mid air. I don’t know what Löw told them beforehand, but it definitely was wrong
I think the Netherlands will win it.
Great analysis.
I’ surprised, though, that you don’t mention that huge German mistake when Puyol scored. There’s a German player standing just on the edge of the 16m. Just standing there, far away from Puyol. He obviously should have taken care of him or at least tried.
Great game from Spain though. Would’ve been devastating if they hadn’t pulled this one.
I agree to “donfuan”
No yellow card, and the first foul committed in 35th minute! This tells it all.
You can’t beat Spain with their own weapons. Look what Mourinho did to Barcelona in the Champions Leage, or even Ottmar Hitzfeld with Swiss in the first round. They didn’t play wonderful soccer, but they won.
Zonalmarking is right, that Germany lacked quality. Problem was, that journalists fell in love with the team, because players with “foreign origin” were performing. In the end, the German team themselves seemed to believe that they could outplay Spain. This was a mistake.
German players are not world class. Schweinsteiger was rising for the simple reason, that his position in the defense midfield does not require extraordinary technical skills. Özil is a good player, but he is simply to weak.
It was always ridiculous to call the German team a “Wunderteam”. They have no world class player. At Bayern Munich the real stars are Robben, Ribery and Van Bommel.
Look at the German teams in the 80s or 90s. They had plenty of world class midfielders Matthäus, Breitner, Müller, Häßler, Littbarski, Doll, Sammer, Scholl… not to mention the defenders. They really dominated the game like Spain does today.
I disagree.
Comparing Germany’s display with the Switzerland v Spain and Inter v Barcelona games is useless. Applying your logic, the Swiss side must be full of worldclass players, i suppose?
Schweinsteiger is an excellent player, Ozil is a great player bound for several excellent years to come, just sticking to the names you mentioned. Worldclass? Who knows, but more importantly, who cares as long as they play really, really well?
Germany lost this game. They adopted their tactics to denying the Spanish to penetrate their box, waiting for the counterattack and executed these tactics less well than the Spanish executed theirs. Maybe it was the pitch (several really bad passes from many players indicated that to me; sometimes the Spanish/German pass was easily intercepted to just bounce back), who knows. Germany played much better than in the final of the EC 08, maybe they’ll break down the Spanish side during the EC 12, if they deserve to get that far.
Besides the lack of worldclass players, which apparently is important, i think Germany lost because of their wingers. I believe Podolski and Trochowski played reasonably well, but didn’t deliver enough pressure upon the Spanish. Podolski dropped a couple of easy balls on the counterattacks, defended well though, but only did that. Jansen’s sub rectified this a bit, but still Podolski needs much more room than the Spanish were willing to give him. Podolski is an instinctive footballer in my opinion and is not the best suited to penetrate a tight defensive line by delivering dangerous passes upfront. If he is the recipient, that’s another story. Trochowski played rather well defensively, but posed no offensive threat at all. Again, delivering no pressure. this left Ozil pretty much alone. But he didn’t have his strongest day, I agree with that.
I wonder whether Mullers absence would have been compensated better by switching to a 4-3-2-1 moving Kroos in the 3-line, releasing Podolski into more of a free role. Ozil could have used a bit more support today.
On a last note, the german side has incredible talent. They lost to a better Spanish side on a smart and well executed set play yesterday and that is about it. The are no “Wunderteam”, but they showed a wonderful display the last couple of weeks. At least, I enjoyed it. Maybe because i don’t need worldclass players to make me happy: I like the team game.
I tend to think that this German side simply weren’t ready for this challenge just yet, in 4 years time it’s scary to think how goo they’ll be though. The media and a lot of fans decided they were incredible because against Australia, England and Argentina they were gifted early goals by woefully bad defending. This in turn allowed them to do the one thing they were very good at doing, counter attacking. The way Spain play makes it difficult to counter because there’s so many players in the middle who are comfortable to sit back. Then the premsa agressiu (Catalan for aggressive pressing) meant when Germany did get the ball they panicked as there midfield lacked the experience to stay composed. Then it becomes a vicious cycle because the less you see of the ball the more desperate you are not to give it away, which then puts you under more pressure when you’re pressed.
Provided they find a good young striker to replace Klose (unless of course he stays prolific in his mid 30s), in 2014 this German side will be exceptional though.
I think Xabi Alonso had his best game of the World Cup as well, he was much more in tune with the rest of the midfield rather than spraying long passes around. In previous games he was too eager to unlock defences with long balls to Torres, while the rest of the team were looking to keep possession. With Xavi a little further forward than he plays for Barcelona it meant Busquets and Iniesta were looking to play triangles with Alonso only to see him spray it forward to Torres, which in turn meant they passed to him less – hence why Alonso was often the player sacrificed after Torres was withdrawn. But against Germany Alonso seemed far more in tune with the rest of them, he was happy to let Xavi be dictate the pace while he did his best to take the pressure off him and keep possession, thus frustrating the Germans. Plus the pressing game suited Alonso as he and Busquets scared the hell out of the German midfield whenever they got close. Was great to see Xabi finally adapt to fit in with the rest of the midfield rather than trying to impose his own game on a side it isn’t suited too.
*That was meant to be a new comment not a reply to the last few comments.
Man, if you’re convinced that “the defense midfield does not require extraordinary technical skills.” then you need to continue reading this blog until next WCup. Discover this detail by yourself and then you’ll enjoy this game a zillion times more than you probably do now.
Nice analysis. I agree with the part where the Germans were caught out on the zonal marking. It brings up the argument of zonal marking vs man marking all over again.
I’m a fan of the zonal marking system but the only disadvantage (I can think of) is that you can be caught out by numbers running into the box. The running man will always have more momentum than the defensive standing man.
A more experienced side would have adapted the zonal marking according to the situation. Which means, a zonal marking system with someone in the team calling out man marking if potential dangers are identified.
I felt that the goal could have been avoided if more experienced heads were around to rectify the defensive set-up for the corner. It was pretty obvious, even on the telly, that the marking was weird for the corner. Too many German players crowded around the 6 yard box marking air(?) and too many Spanish players preparing to make runs from outside the box.
Good luck Germany, in 2014. Could be their time.
I am so happy that this over-hyped German team lost. Besides they lost convincingly, whoever talks in terms of “close game” and this sort of nonsense is blind or biased or probably both. You should look beyond the score to understand that. Where where you Ozil now? No Ozil vs Argentina, no Ozil vs Spain, totally outplayed Germans, there control of game, there intricate passing, vision and technique is no match for ordinary German team!!
Well this doesn’t read as biased at all.
I thought that Germany played a decent game. It was tight but the better team won. I’m sure Joachim Low knew Germany had to ride their luck at times against Spain; they’re just lacking in technical quality compared to Spain. If it means giving up possession of the ball as part of the game-plan and letting Spain have a go at them from range, so be it.
The way I see it, Joachim was hoping to get something on the breaks. Don’t forget that the best chance probably fell to Germany but Kroos couldn’t get a clean connection with his shot. I’m sure the game would have been a whole lot more even had Muller played.
And i am sure the game would have been a whole more different had Lampard’s goal stood, or had Argentina not conceded so early a fluke free kick… As you rightly said Germany needed to ride there luck, and so they did in 1/8 and 1/4, but even such huge luck ends at last. Spain were far better team and they deservedly won!
Spain have had more than their fair share of luck this tournament to progress to the final. An offsides goal against Portugal, rebounds off the woodwork against Paraguay and a another offsides decision going their way in that match, and in this semi-final they were very fortunate not to have Ramos sent off for his foul on Ozil near the end of the fist half. So maybe you shouldn’t talk about other teams getting ‘lucky.”
Ozil actually played very well. But I get it — you’re retarded.
Sorry but i have to qoute your comment on the Argentina v Germany preview
Please stop this Hater shit. I can understand your upset about the argentina game and happy that Germany finally lost against a clearly superior spain, but this clearly biased comments of yours just don’t add any value to the tactical discussions here
“Rique on July 1, 2010 at 6:52 pm
First of all stop this crap about Germany’s “creativity and skill” about only “slight edge” of Argentina in terms of talent, its not “slight” its huge. I am fed up with that hype around German team. What was so impressive about them in matches vs Serbia or Ghana? You seem to get carried away after Germany beat utterly poor England in 1/8. The class of players don’t change overnight. Muller and Ozil are “nobody” in international football sense, yes they have potential but they are nobody yet. Of course everything can happen, and Germany has a fair chance to get positive result, but don’t make ridiculous comparison of Muller/Ozil/Schweinsteiger to Messi/Tevez/Macherano as if its nearly equal, its not and so u will hopefully all see that on the match day.
“Rique on July 2, 2010 at 8:06 pm
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You just need good contrast, and during this match you will see how far more superior Messi-Tevez is compared to Ozil-Muller, all you need is that contrast, and you will get it, the sharpest possible, it will even make your eyes bleed
Hope your eyes are OK
It pretty looked like Germany playing against Barcelona. only Messi was missing. Pedro was excellent. Germany were made to look too good by a poor Australia, an awful England and a tactic less Argentina. Spain just played their normal game, except that Busquests had his sights on Ozil always.
I think that Pedro is Spain’s Messi… obviously not Messi but the closest as Messi.
He can play in the touchline, inside, interplay with midfielders, does diagonal runs, has speed and lots of movement… he can’t dribble 12 guys like Messi does but like i said the closest.
Ozil(wonderful player) goes down way too easily.His laid back attitude(love that)will infuriate fans when things aren’t going well.It was a good lesson for Germany,a lot of them were timid.
this is the best blog in the world
congratulations
Wonderful analysis and appropriate that all the studio commentators on BBC and RTE were talking about zonal marking after the Puyol goal.
Pedro did very well but Villa did not look as comfortable or dangerous as when Torres was starting and I wonder given the occasion, the obvious affection of Del Bosque for Torres/Villa and the increased hunger which Torres showed when he came on last night, whether we might still see Torres starting on Sunday.
totally agree with you.Despite all their possesion,they didnt hurt germany until after they went a goal up.Torres gives them that directness.Absolutely essential.
it was a mere deja-vu of the last euro-final…spain owning the ball, germany begging to touch it for a bit…and soooo many unforced errors while they had
ahhhhh
hmmmmm, what to say?
well, as i personally believed, germany would get stuck if not playing fast…spain slowed them down to their own pace…that’s when they bore you to death with a horizontally-unnecessary-ultra-passing strategy, and finish you there…the only one that nows how to cope with this lethal system is mourinho.
lowe is not mourinho.
on the other hand, had that last minute-first period penalty been called and scored, germany would’ve been more than happy to not wanna possess the ball.
cheers everyone
Though I can understand that some people are bored by anything less than a high-octane attack pressing forward (the way some people prefer monolithic high-decibel screaming guitar death-metal over nuanced multi-dimensional layered jazz or Afro-pop with a wide dynamic range), it is a misunderstanding of possession tactics to call lateral and backward passing “unnecessary.”
More often than not, each pass serves a purpose, and even when not directly serving a purpose (let’s call it simply a “holding” pass), it serves a purpose as part of the overall strategy (wear down the opposition defense, and deny the opposition offense any time to score). And some possession passing is about keeping the ball out of danger, with a back or lateral pass to a less marked teammate.
But generally, possession passing is about changing the point of attack (even by a few meters) in order to find holes in the opposition defense. It’s not just about what the ball is doing, but about what the rest of the team is doing off the ball. Each pass creates a new picture of offensive opportunities and defensive obstacles, and, like a hand in poker, is folded and re-dealt (by a pass) if the player with the ball doesn’t like the odds of what they see. When they see a opening they like, then they move forward. If the opening closes down, they are happy to re-deal with another pass and start again.
While the aggressive poker player who never folds will sometimes win a hand, in the long haul, the patient player who waits for the right cards has a higher chance of winning hands more consistently. And some of us find watching that style of play far more entertaining than a less nuanced direct approach.
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what’s this, football for dummies – penguin series????
druvar,
This is a site about tactics. Apparently (as it has come up several times in comments), some visitors don’t understand what possession tactics are about.
I suggest that you do as I do: if a comment is of no interest to me, I skip over it.
can u find any where in my previous post (or earlier in the year’s lengthy posts) where i dismiss tactics/strategies?????? can u point at it????
anyway, if you NEED me to be a bit more clear, i’ll satisfy your needs:
SPAIN excellently executed their (boring-to-me!!!) tactical master plan, while Germany (i couldn’t care less) failed to play theirs…
happy???
I agree totally with what you are saying here. I have also commented on Roberticus’ post below about those pundits who thought that this game was somehow boring!
The best example I can think of regarding what you are describing is the Cambiasso goal scored against Serbia at the 2006 World Cup. I love that goal more than any other I can think of mainly because of the way Argentina work to keep the ball, probe looking for openings in the defence, keep the pressure up as Serbia search for the ball, and then…bang three or four passes and it is in the back of the net: a simply marvellous goal. As far as I am concerned that is football at its best.
I thought this was pretty well put Bernie. I still don’t get the fans who say that Spain’s play is boring. Cheers from Oakland.
Druvar: http://www.goal.com is the perfect place for you – check it out.
Mourinho did nothing special except park the bus and if that Inter game was played under the same conditions as Wednesday’s game Mourinho lost just like Lowe. 1-0. Infact if Bojan’s goal was allowed like it should have been no one would be talking about Mourinho and Barca would have won a back to back Champions League. If you park the bus you had better be prepared to do it for 120 minutes and endure the barage. Most teams do not have that mental fortitude. If you noticed in the last 18 minutes Germany tried to play their style that had been played throughout the tourny and if not for a brain fart by Pedro it would have been 2-0. It took Spain all of 5 minutes to shred that. The only team that can beat Spain right now is Spain.
dear pulguita
i’m sorry but you’re analysis and comparisons r completely wrong my friend…here’s why:
1. mourinho didn’t park the bus, he parked (i’m quoting him after the game here) a PLANE!!! actually that is a chinese wall, IMHO. find any team that can do that,
with only 4 (four) shots in goal, with 10 men against a billion dollar team.
2. Inter was playing with 10 men for 65 minutes, Germany was playing with 11.
3. Germany had one match to win, and hadn’t scored yet to resolve it, while inter was playing game 2, having DESERVEDLY won the first match 3:1.
4. Pique’s goal (excellent footwork by the way) was as marginally offside as Milito’s 3rd goal in the first match.
5. Bojan goal’s was debatable; half of the world’s refs would call that hand ball. i would personally allow it, but never the less, Barca only managed to score a valid disallowed goal, which is still debatable st the end of the day.
so, how is this Inter – Germany scenario the same??????
barca – inter has enter soccer history. u can hate inter for parking the plane, i couldn’t care less, but facts r undisputable
pls, check your facts b4 posting
cheers
Spain showed a brilliant game both technically and tactically.
But I really think Müller not being there was the big problem for Germany. His anarchic style is crucial for this german team.
The match of the tournament.
The sheer option Del Bosque has is exhilirating.
Let’s jus keep Iker and the back 4 constant..
Option 1. 4231 Sergio Alonso | Pedro Xavi Iniesta | Villa – Trademark Espana.
Option 2. 4231 Xavi Sergio | Iniesta Cesc Silva | Villa – The Art Gallery.
Option 3. 4231 Sergio Alonso | Cesc Xavi Iniesta | Villa – Musical Chair.
Option 4. 4231 Xavi Sergio | Pedro Cesc Villa | Torres – Raging Bull with a background symphony.
Mind you, I havent yet included..
Mata, Navas, Torres(except 1), Javi Martinez and the 433.
Viva Espana!
P.S. Pep Guardiola and Luis Aragones need to be invited to lift the trophy. Oh wait, the final is two days away..:P
Tiki-taka and patience. A Total Football concept if ever there was one. Though the game is too organized for Total Football as a play style, the philosophy behind it remains grounded in the patient application of possession football as practiced by Spain. A means of wielding both offensive and defensive supremacy for ones side, which is why Spain are a step ahead of everyone else in the game.
I’ve heard the term tiki-taka a lot recently and am pretty sure what it means, but can anyone direct me to how the term originated? Links? In English, preferably (but Google translate will prob do the job otherwise).
Peter, I think the phrase is a nonsense term in Spanish for a string of passes, like in English the use of ‘barabim baraboom’ is for completing something quickly and easily. I may be wrong though.
Peter:
http://forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php?t=1014460
There’s an english post 3 down.
fcb_guerrero: Funny! I assume you’re not a native English speaker so I’m not making fun but it did make me laugh, the phrase is “Bada bing bada boom.” I associate it with Italian American immigrants (or possibly more specifically Italian organized crime groups) but I’m not sure if that’s the real origin or just my multimedia-washed brain.
Thanks
Sadly the originator of the term Andrés Montes died last year. He was the most entertaining sports commentator I ever heard. I remember staying up (in Spain) until 3-4 AM watching NBA playoff games and this guy’s colorful commentary always had me in stitches. Tiki-taka!
The Dutch commentaters use it as well, “tik-tak” football. It emulates the idea of a quick passing game, each tik and tak is the sound of a pass, one touch football, that’s the idea I believe
I agree it has to be something related with the sound. In fact, in Spain “tiki-taka” is often used by table soccer players, because of the metallic sound when moving quickly the ball between players. The first time I heard it was more than ten years ago.
i personally first heard it from jose mourinho after the barca – inter game…he used when asked how he saw the game developing
I remember playing back in the early ’70s Sunday beach football with brazilian players emigrated to Venezuela to play professional football there and how they often referred to TaTaTa playing, meaning good passing football.
that pitch sucks, too slow the ball, just like the will be the uruguay vs germany stadium
no problem with the others pitchs though, except the altitude…
I tend to agree with ZM that the crucial point was the midfield where Germany were for once outnumbered by the Spanish team. In fact Germany lost out both on quantity and quality as the Spanish midfielders had such high level of technical skills especially in terms of possession, passing and touch.
Another key was their work ethnics and fitness. They attack and defend as a team and is quick to regroup and recover.
Finally, the differentiating point between the two team is the experience and teamwork. Spain been playing with the same team for the last several years. On the other hand the current German team is only been together for the last few months. Also the Spanish team is full of seasoned pros who had played in numerous tournaments. Watching them pass with such pace with almost telepathic understanding is a sight to behold.
On the side of Germany, I feel for once Loew was slightly wrong in his choice of tactics. Instead of adding another DF to the team to counter the powerful Spanish midfield he chose to include Trochowski. I would have preferred Aogo or even Boeteng (with Jansen as LB). Boeteng had a decent game but did not provide much in the attacking play Jansen provided when he came on.
There is also an over dependence on Bastian, who was already marked and also saddled with defensive duties. As such when Germany attacked, they did not have enough players in the right positions so the attack quickly broke down.
I thought Kroos did well, in fact he outshone Oezil, who was a disappointment.
The good thing is that the German team can only get better. I guess it will take another 12 to 24 months for this team to reach a level of Spain today. I also think Loew needs to bring in a few more players quickly to make the team more balanced.
The CB area is one.Hummel is one good option me think. As for LB, Jansen gets my vote. In midfield, Germany needs an attacking creative midfielder and Kroos fits the bill better than Oezil. I think Oezil and Klose can still play together but Kroos will occupy the position between Oezil and the DM duo of Khedira and Bastian. But Kroos needs to develop his defensive game to be fully fit into Loew’s side.
I would also retain Mueller but drop Podolski who while shown a maturity to track back and tactical discipline, was often ineffective and do not show the kind of off the ball movements and intelligence that displayed by other Germany’s attacking players.
I also think Loew must drop Gomez and Ballack. I can never understand why Gomez is still being considered by Loew.
About Torres: I am a Liverpool fan and would have loved to see Torres do well as a starter but let’s face it, he is not match fit and Del Bosque has given him a lot of opportunities
A question for ZM : if the battle was in the congested central midfield, with Iniesta and Pedro tucking in centrally, it seems like Germany’s problem was the lack of an effective outlet on the wing. Podolski is a good player but not a winger and Trochowski was ineffective. I wonder how Spain will do against a team with a world class winger, e.g. Robben?
PS I have to agree with Sir Alex Ferguson : my player of the tournament so far has been Schweinsteiger. He was a winger once, and combines great skills and dribbling with the tactical nous of a holding midfielder, and some hard nosed tackling now too.
Agree with this, the Spaniards haven’t had to face up to a world class winger yet, which is bonkers considering they’ve played against Ronaldo! But he was hardly in the game. Germany lost their width, I thought Trochowski played far too narrow rather than sticking to his wing but perhaps he was ordered to do it because of the numbers problem in the centre. Either way, it wasn’t working and bringing on Kroos only partially helped.
I thought Puyol was excellent. Twice the German defence ignored him and both times he headed a dangerous ball (one scoring). Pique was excellent at the back, but Puyol is something of an anchor for the team (and at Barca), a dependable guy who you can trust to make very, very few mistakes.
Great analysis as always, ZM.
Excellent analysis as always. Thought Puyol and Mertesacker were the best two players on the pitch last night, so it was fitting that one of them should get the winner.
I was startled by the amount of width Spain had, considering their midfielders’ tendencies to come inside. Can’t remember how many times I saw Iniesta bothering Lahm and Schweinstiger, or Ramos flying past Boateng/Jansen and Podolski.
First time post here, reading since the WC. Great site btw. Slightly OT, and let me start by saying I’m Dutch, so probably biased, but what the heck. What’s with all the van Bommel bashing on this website? Since when is a strong aggressive defensive midfielder a blemish on the game? I do wonder which countries the nay-sayers are from, since over here in the Netherlands everyone believes he’s one of the best Dutch players on the pitch. He deserved the MoM a lot more then Sneijder did a couple of matches IMHO.
Van Bommel is making an international name for himself as a fearsome destoyer in the defensive area. He makes me think of Viera, Diego Simeone, Lothar Mattheus and such. All the gripe about defensive negative football seems a bit of this world, or at least non-European for that matter. Defending is an art, go ask the Italians. We have a Nike-ad on the telly that starts with the quote “Total football is only total when you win”. First time ever the Dutch have a team that know more about winning than about pretty political correct football and all of a sudden it’s a shame.
For all good order, I’m quite sane and know the Dutch are playing poorly, are being lucky at exactly the right time and Spain has the better footballing team. Let the best team win on Sunday
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Van Bommel has been brilliant for the Dutch this tournament and without a doubt one of the leading reasons why Holland is in the final but…..
he’s one of the dirtiest players in the game and has somehow managed to escape multiple deserved bookings this tounament. He should have copped a straight red for his “tackle/dummy” in the match against Uruguay. And how he escaped being booked in the match against Brazil is something I will never understand.
Hope that helps explain why so many dislike van Bommel. He’s been great this tournament (and last season for Bayern) but he’s a despicable and dirty player on the pitch. It doesn’t really have anything to do with him being defensive or even a spoiler, but being dirty and a consistent whiner. His actions, along with Robben’s constant diving and feigning of injury in attempts to get other players booked, are the main reasons I think a lot of people, myself included, are rooting for Spain in the final. Even though I would love for the Dutch fans to get to celebrate a title after coming so close on some many occasions while playing brilliant football. It’s just sad that none of those teams won and this one has a chance.
such gobbledy gook jonathan ( i think thats the correct spelling). spain has busquets and torres ( a nasty little cheat if ever there was one), brazil has lucio and alves, germany has germans, england had gerrard and rooney (a while back now) and argentina has heinze, 57 varieties of cheating
you must surely think it sad when any team wins these days, if ur to be consistent and non-biased
Well, sure, although the Germans have been fine this tournament and like you said, Rooney hasn’t been really doing it for a while. Otherwise I don’t disagree with any of the examples you mention. I’m fine with a normal amount of “gamesmanship,” and but I can find redeemable qualities in all the other teams you mentioned. Spain, for example, have Iniesta, Pique, Villa, and they play some beautiful football at times.
With van Bommel I think a lot of the antagonism towards him is also that he’s somehow managed to escape punishment for any of his actions. Not entirely sure about the exact number, but I think he’s committed 14 fouls this tournament, many of them stopping attacks or “accidently” arriving late and stepping on ankles, and hasn’t been booked once for it. He’s also always first to the referee attempting to get others booked. Again, I don’t really have any huge problem with any of that except for him being reckless with his studs (he’s been fortunate not to injure anyone else), but I do like to see his actions punished and in some way, that’s one of the reasons I’m thinking I’m going to be supporting Spain, (in the same way I was happy when Barca went out to Inter after Busquets cheating to get Motta sent off).
Maybe I wasn’t clear enough, but I wasn’t trying to say that I’ll find it sad if the Dutch win, but simply sad that those great teams from the ’70s, especially ‘74, and also some of the more recent teams that came close (‘98).
To be clear, I’m not overwhelmingly supporting Spain in the final, maybe 55-45, but that mainly has to do with my just not liking individual players for this Holland team, Van Bommel and Robben prime amongst them.
Plus I was simply answering his question as to why people have such negative feelings about Van Bommel.
Enjoy the use of “gobbledygook” even if it’s not really the correct usage – you just disagreed with what I said, or possibly found it hypocritical, but “gobbledygook” implies that what I wrote was incomprehensible, which I would strongly argue it wasn’t.
It’s funny that you bring up cheating. Van Bommel’s tackles are often reckless and he should have gotten a minimum of 1 yellow card per game, but it’s ultimately down to ref decisions to caution players. It’s not Van Bommel’s fault that refs don’t do their work.
On the other hand, Spain already got 2 players sent off with their theatrics. I don’t see how they are any better than Robben when it comes to sportsmanship. Actually, they are probably the worst losers when things don’t go their way. Water sprinklers at Camp Nou anyone?
I wholeheartedly agree with you that some of van Bommel’s charges were yellows. He might have gotten a red for the challenge leading up to the van Bronckhorst goal if he would have hit the player on the knee. No foul given amazed me as well. Bottom line is that he’s always playing on the edge, sometimes over it, and gets away with it. A lot has to do with the way he behaves towards the ref I believe, as well as the fact that there’s never intent to injure another player.
I don’t really get the point about trying to get others booked with simulating and such. I don’t think van Bommels behaviour has resulted in any yellow for an opponent this WC? Robben is not the diver he used to be I believe. Have you seen the number of fouls made on Robben by Brazil for example? There were at least a dozen, and a fair few should have been yellows as well. The guy was stamped on the previously injured hamstrings while on the ground, and people call him a cheat, I don’t get it. Falling to the ground with only very light contact or no contact is diving, I don’t recall Robben doing so this, except for situations where not jumping away would have resulted in likely injury.
“We made a special effort to try to control their midfield and not let them get comfortable. When we got the ball we knew we needed to be aggressive.”
Bob Bradley after the USA win over Spain in 2009.
There’s an idea that ALL the US did was sit back and counter but they didn’t, they really bit at Spain. You need to get in the face of the Spanish midfield, not allow them every second of time on the ball, disrupt their flow. That was a weaker Spanish side but the principle will apply. It’s a shame Chile were too aggressive and lost a man because they had the right attitude. If the Dutch simply allow Spain long periods of possession, they will probably succumb. Hope they take they initiative (speaking as a fan of the Netherlands now England are out
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I think Paraguay actually played it better than Chile did — while Bielsa’s team went balls-out against Spain and got caught out by sloppy play at the back, Paraguay also played with energetic pressing only with three players (the forwards plus Santana) coming on the break instead of six.
The key was (as ZM pointed out in his analysis of that match) that Paraguay’s midfielders consistently pressed both Busquets and Alonso and prevented them from having a lot of time on the ball — you can see how this affected the game from the stats, where Busquet’s normally astronomical pass completion percentage drops for this one game and Alonso’s passes/positioning were much deeper than they were against Germany, where he had three excellent shooting chances from the top of the box, as opposed to the two deeper, quickly-closed-down and blocked attempts versus Paraguay.
That all said, I’m not sure if that sort of strategy would work against a Spain with Pedro in the starting lineup. His speed, direct play and ability to get wide would be very dangerous if you allowed space between the midfield and the defense, which Paraguay did.
Pedro was the clincher, I very much agree. An excellent move to bring him in and I’d imagine they’ll keep him rather than revert to Torres. I would definitely be asking Van Bommel to press higher up the pitch and Sneijder to make a nuisance of himself as well. The deeper you sit, the more you’re getting sucked into Spain’s plan and that should be avoided, even if you take a few risks.
I love your analysis. Just finished an interview with a local newspaper. You talked about 90% of what I said, also. I am a Dartfish analyst. I find your website very inspirational. I think Germany gave too much respect to Spain. Puyol was left alone, in spite of giving an early goal attempt, but the short corner trick drew 2 players out of the box ! Friedrich was marking Puyol’s first attempt, but no one marked him on the second attempt (goal). The Germans lost their discipline once, and they paid dearly.
You always have great analysis. God bless you.
found your site on del.icio.us today and really liked it.. i bookmarked it and will be back to check it out some more later
ZM,
totally agree with your assessment of this having been “a marvellous game of football”, but listening to the Guardian podcasts and reading other journos’ dismissive reviews I was left thinking “Were they even watching the same game: how could they call the first half boring?”
Perhaps the answer lies in a generation groomed to gorge on a high-tempo football which is instantly gratifying; telly-to-belly.
Of course, there are times when Spain could choose to add a bit more urgency to their build-up, but this is usually dictated by the personel at their disposal; without a fit Torres, or the driving presence of a Fabregas for instance. It’s not as if they have some ideological adversion to it. After all, Luis Aragones built a successful club career moulding various sides who were primed to be lethal on the counter-attack.
I found the first half enthralling; not just for Spain’s passing, but also Germany’s pressing and portentious seeking of counter-attacks, which, fair enough, didn’t come quite off but still looked menacing. Also note how when Germany did get the ball, they didn’t squander it with speculative passes. The intensity on display here meant that the Spanish passing had to be even more precise than average, and more credit to them for that alone.
See my post above regarding possession football. It’s not generational, it’s constitutional (though, generally speaking, the most recent generation has grown up in the most overstimulated media environment ever, so may have a different baseline for what is considered stimulating). Many people find soccer boring because it is so low scoring (whereas I find “winning” in basketball somewhat ridiculous when the margin of victory is 1 point in a game that ends 112-111). And within soccer fans, some find it boring whenever the ball is not moving forward, no matter how wasteful that forward movement may be.
What I like about Netherlands (when they are clicking) is they play a faster overlapping tiki-taka game than Spain, and generally seek to create a shooting opportunity more quickly. Spain is more content to move slower and wait for a more clear opening to emerge. I think the final will be decided by 1) how well Netherlands play (if they play as sloppy as they did against Uruguay, I think they will lose), 2) whether Torres starts on the bench (if he starts on the field, Spain will be playing a man down until he is subbed), and 3) which team is the least wasteful with their possessions (in other words, the team that produces the most shots on goal per possession will win).
Roberticus – I know this is addressed to ZM but I would like to add my agreement to your comments. I was astounded by the Football Weekly Podcast crew and the other comments and reviews that this game was “boring”. I am 26 years old and would be the ideal candidate in many ways to have been groomed for instant gratification. I, however, thought the first half in this game was perhaps the most satisfying 45 minutes of football I have seen for a long time.
I was entralled and entranced by the spectacle. It was like watching the first five rounds or so of a wonderful heavyweight boxing bout – all feints and small digs and building of pressure – but both sides knowing that any mistake could ultimately be fateful. Spain in this analogy were the artisans and “boxer” whereas Germany were the, ultimately lesser opponent, but hugely dangerous “counter puncher”.
I thought the Spanish pressure was excellent but I also enjoyed the way Germany never threw themselves into the tackle and were content to move around as Spain dragged the ball all over the pitch. I actually found the increase in pace in the second half a bit of a let down and suggested to my father after the match that football matches are sometimes not only ruined by goals but by the ever impending end of the match. I had my fingers crossed for 0-0 and extra time!
“Ruined by goals”
Are you having a laugh?
Matches aren’t. Gameplans, perhaps, but that just leaves it open to see if a coach has a plan B (del Bosque) or not (Wenger).
“Ruined by goals”
“Are you having a laugh?”
Well the comment is tongue in cheek. Of course I do not think all games are ruined by goals. What I meant is something similar to what J Wilson had said. Sometimes when two teams match up so well a goal changes everything and it can kill the tactical battle that had been set up.
As it happens I don’t think the goal killed this game at all but because time was ticking it made things a bit more open, which meant I simply did not enjoy the second half as much as the tense and dream-like first.
Cheers Kabul,
nice to know I wan’t the only one who felt that way.
That game reminded me of the France vs Italy Euro final in 2000 which I was watching on RTE. Jim Beglin was co-commentator and said that the first half had been a bit lacklustre; cut to the studio, and John Giles and Eamon Dunphy excoriated such talk. “This is real football”,they replled and “at this level, two top teams tend to spar it out for the opening 45 minutes, just probing and trying to test each other out”.
No problem. I was very pleased to see your comment (and ZM’s report) because I too kept thinking that everyone must have tuned into a different match.
Say what you like about RTE but they often know what they are talking about…even when they are wrong!
Again the boxing analogy seems apt. Let’s hope for a similar battle in the Final. I for one think it will be very similar to this one although I fancy Spain to score a few more goals to make it more convincing.
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Should have been “Pressing, passing, Puyol and Paul” imo
Is it just me or is the World Cup mirroring the Champions League in patches.
Holland’s run to the final could be seen as similar to Bayerns progression to the ECL final. Other than the obvious Robben link which saw him recover from injury earlier on the tounament to become one of the best players. Both had an easy semi (Uruguay, Lyon) after a hard quarter final against one of the big favourites for the final (Brazil, Man Utd). They also both went into the tournaments as dark horses, and both were underdogs for the final.
Spain’s run in turn mimics Inter’s run (slightly). With the eagerly anticipated tactical semi (against Germany, Barcelona) following an all together easier quarter final (Paraguay, CSKA Moskow) Both sides also have the tendancies to win games by the odd goal, and both will be favourites in their first final in modern times.
Further comparisons can be made about big names, who just don’t have the players any more like Italy (see Juventus), potential unrest in the camp leading to a manager being sacked like France (see Liverpool), and despite the aspirations of the fans, failing to to get the best out of a “golden” generation of players e.g. England (see Real Madrid.)
I have convinced myself of these links, yet I’m doubting myself with every word I type. Wait a second Howard Webb is reffing the final….
+1
I’ll admit that the first group games in this WC were a copy of Barça – Inter. Sooo many of them. But u are taking it too far with the similarities.
I mean, every tournament is much alike any other. Everywhere there will be underachivers, managers sacked, etc etc etc.
I cant see Spain being comperable with Inter though. Not in this world…
I liked Filip’s (on July 8, 2010 at 6:04 pm) “lets be real here” because IMO during the last two weeks we have seen a lot of thinking leaving the domain of reality to meander the world of dreams. It’s nothing specific about German fans, on the contrary, from Beckenbauer down the ranks Germans are normally rather balanced when it comes to assessment of own and foreign forces.
This time, appealing football playing and a combination of circumstances resulting in three goal-rich victories have stimulated the positive thinking and dreaming as perhaps never before, culminating in matter-of-fact assertions such as “…it will take this team 1-2 years to reach the level of today’s Spain” or something similar, as it can be read above somewhere. Nothing wrong about dreaming but if you are going to write about your dreams a better place can be the novel or science-fiction sections and not ZM’s site dedicated to serious analysis of football. As a follower of Argentina I have had my quote of dreams throughout the years but even in this WC, when the hype was at its peak, it wasn’t really that difficult to write as I did (on June 28, 2010 at 3:29 pm) in the ZM’s postmatch analysis of Argentina-Mexico.
The point is that Germany 2010 has had, as almost always, a good system but lacking this time a critical minimal number of quality (and here I mean world class quality) players. Before the WC I saw only Philipp Lahm reaching that level. Now, after six tournament matches and leaving aside the politics of FIFA World Cup™ Adidas Golden Ball nomination, I see Lahm and likely Thomas Müller up to the world class label. Sebastian Schweinsteiger is a cosequent worker in the midfield but he lacks top attributes in terms of ball handling and vision to be the conductor of the orchestra for Germany to win something big in the next four-year cycle. The rest of the team is composed of good average or slightly above the average players that may have or not, as always happens in football, a better or worse day at the job. Manuel Neuer seems to have the framework to become a top international goalkeeper.
There is something more with this new Germany. Not only the way they play is different, their character has also changed. It is like if in the process of streamlining his team, Löw has peeled off the historic hallmark of German sides, that is the fighting spirit. Someone in this blog wondered how was it possible to lose a semifinal without getting a single yellow card. Spot on. A very domesticated Germany nowadays. Are you serious in winning the big games playing that sort of exquisite football, then you really need a core of 5-6 top world class players, not just one or maybe two. And with this the circle has been walked round.
It’s the 4-4-2 ( in defense ) vs 4-5-1 dilemma all over again, this time with Germany on the loosing end. Loew and Siegenthaler surely should have known better ?
Maybe Trochowski was an attempt to counter the Spaniards’ possession game. Like Schweinsteiger his abilities seem more suited to a role in the centre of the pitch rather than the wing. On his better days he’ll rarely loose the ball and take a moment to pick smart passes. Against opposition of the class of Spain he is just not good enough though and was missing on the counter attack as well.
Kroos might have been the better choice. He could have constantly swapped with Oezil, supplying the side with more creativity and freeing the Bremen player for counter attacks. From a strictly functional perspective Oezil would have replaced Mueller and Kroos taken over the playmaker role. Add his excellent long range shooting ability and set plays and you’ve got some tasty package.
Anyway, Euro 2012 should be a thrilling tournament to look forward to. This Spanish side still pretty much at full steam, Germany in elementary school rather than kindergarten, the all new pragmatic Netherlands and maybe a rejuvinated France ?
Oh, and of course there will be England too, with all it’s “world class” players. Every circus needs a clown afterall.
Methinks that it was the best goal of the tournament after the Gyan’s.
And of Course it helped Spain to enter their Golden quarter finals.
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