Germany 4-0 Argentina: Germany are getting better and better and better

The starting line-ups
Germany put in one of the most impressive performances in recent World Cup history to absolutely thrash Diego Maradona’s Argentina side.
No surprises in terms of line-ups – they were as predicted in the preview, and Argentina remained with their loose 4-4-2 diamond shape.
Right from the first minute Argentina were overrun in the midfield. Bastian Schweinsteiger picked up Lionel Messi, giving Sami Khedira license to get forward and support Mesut Oezil. With he picked up by Javier Mascherano, Germany were sweeping forward in numbers and overawing the Argentine central midfield.
It quickly became apparent the Argentina were only ever defending with seven players, against a Germany side that features attacking threats from all over the pitch. This is not rare in modern football, especially with the popularity of the 4-3-3 formation – but in that system, the wingers pin back the full-backs and prevent them from joining the attack.
That didn’t happen with Argentina, as Lionel Messi, Carlos Tevez and Gonzalo Higuain all stayed in central positions when Argentina didn’t have the ball. Not only did this mean Germany were able to get their full-backs forward with ease, it also meant that out-balls became more difficult when Argentina won back possession.
The main beneficiary of the lack of defensive work from Argentina’s attacking trio was Philip Lahm. He constantly motored down the right flank, taking advantage of Thomas Mueller’s intentions to make central runs in behind the defence. On more than one occasion, he found himself with a huge 20-yard strip of pitch to himself on the right, and was constantly an attacking option when Argentina shut down the first phase of attacks.
Argentina midfield outnumbered
Argentina’s three central midfielders simply had too much work to do. The carrilero closest to the ball when Germany attacked down the flank came out wide, and the other was had to tuck in and form a traditional central midfield ‘two’ alongside Mascherano. But this left Argentina with no-one on the opposite side of the midfield, and the Argentine three were forced to constantly shuffle across the pitch as Germany worked the ball from side to side. Again, Lahm loved this, having 30 yards of space to pick up speed and run at Gabriel Heinze – and there was only one winner there. We should also remember, of course, that neither Angel di Maria nor Maxi Rodriguez are defensive-minded players – both prefer to play on the wing, and whilst both are honest, hard-working players, Argentina needed more than that to break down the constant German attacks.
A knock-on effect of Tevez and Messi doing little defensively (and the midfielders being overrun with runs from Ozil and Khedira) was that there was very little pressure on the ball when Germany had it in deep positions. Schweinsteiger had all the time he liked to pick out a key pass from the centre of midfield, and though his distribution was often slightly wayward – he only completed 52 of 84 passes – part of the reason for this stat is that he was always looking to play the killer ball, because he had enough time and space to attempt ambitious passes rather than simple balls backwards.
Germany defend superbly
Germany were the complete opposite defensively. Their wide players dropped deep to form two banks of four when they didn’t have the ball, with Oezil given a free role. They sat relatively deep and relatively narrow, and whilst Mueller and Lukas Podolski were disciplined, they had relatively little work to do going towards their own goal, because Heinze and Nicolas Otamendi rarely got forward, and were slow when they did.
Hence, it was generally five Argentina players attacking against eight Germans, in two solid lines. They had little width high up the pitch, whilst Tevez and Messi operated too close together. Messi increasingly dropped deeper and deeper to pick up possession, summing up his frustration at a lack of service. Such is the love for knee-jerk reactions and an obsession with using the phrase ‘big game bottler’, Messi will probably be blamed for putting in a poor performance in this game, but he actually did rather well. He weaved in and out of challenges and played some genuinely excellent passes (that weren’t forthcoming from Argentina’s midfielders), but he was simply being forced to play too deep, with Tevez eating up the space he wanted to occupy.
The German midfield pressed well throughout the game, and the two central players dealt with Messi excellently when he moved forward – passing him from zone to zone and largely leaving Tevez to the centre-backs. Khedira and Schweinsteiger always made sure that whichever was not picking up Messi was always in a good position to sweep up ahead of the defence, and this increasingly forced Messi deeper and deeper.
Easy goals
The first goal came early on from a Schweinsteiger free-kick that wasn’t defended properly, and Mueller headed in from close range. Germany dominated the rest of the half, and there was little sign of any tactical changes from Maradona and Bilardo. The one thing they did was to switch di Maria and Rodriguez, but that just gives a chance to use the phrase ‘rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic’ more appropriately than ever. Argentina’s shape was awful, just lacking any cohesion whatsoever, and offered no variation in build-up play.
There’s little point in describing the three second-half goals in detail, because they were all exactly the same. Overload Argentina in their right-back zone, shift a centre-back out of position to open up space in the defence, cross for a player on the edge of the six-yard box to score. Podolski for Klose, Schweinsteiger for Freidrich, Ozil for Klose. It didn’t matter who the German players were, they all had the determination to get into attacking zones, they all had the intelligence to look up and play a simple square ball, they all had the technical quality to play the crosses and finishes to perfection.
Simplicity the key
And in a sense, it was the most beautifully simple display of football you’ll ever see, both in terms of the tactical plan and the performance on the pitch. There was no bold strategic shock from Joachim Loew, there were no 30-yard thunderbolts to remember for years. It was just pass and move, fluidity and good teamwork, and the basic plan to get the ball into wide areas, then play the ball across the box. The similarity of the three second half goals is so strong it borders on the ridiculous – the only surprise is that they all came from the side of the pitch that Lahm wasn’t on.
The final twenty minutes saw Argentina try to fit Messi, Tevez, Higuain, Pastore and Aguero into the same team. There was so little element of ‘tactics’ to it that it barely deserves talking about, it was just ‘throw on your best attackers’. Juan Veron would have been appropriate to play some key passes and let Messi work further up the pitch, but it wouldn’t have altered Germany’s cruise to victory.
Conclusion
A victory in every single part of the pitch for Germany, who showed the value of cohesive attacking play and defensive organisation. 4-0 is simply a score that doesn’t happen in quarter-finals of World Cups – not between two first-rate footballing nations. Usually, a side gets to 2-0 or even 3-0 and closes the game out – often with the next game in mind. Germany, however, didn’t have to worry about that because they barely needed to work hard to score – they did it wit h a minimum of fuss. It may be a new-look, exciting German side, but they retain the professionalism and efficiency of old.
Argentina are out in the way many expected with Maradona as manager. Early on in this tournament he seemed to be proving his doubters wrong by playing a solid team that worked well together, but everything fell apart in dramatic circumstances here today. No organisation in defence, not enough numbers in midfield, no cohesion in attack. This defeat will take a long, long time for Argentina to get over.
Germany 4-0 Argentina: Germany are getting better and better and better




Great writeup ZM. I thought Argentina could get by again on their sheer talent, but once again talent loses out to teamwork & tactics. Maradona’s tactical naivete finally catches up with him: http://dodgyatbest.blogspot.com/2010/07/germany-4-0-argentina-instant-reactions.html Today I was reminded of Sacchi’s comments revealed in “Inverting The Pyramid” about teamwork beating talent, even when outnumbered, time after time after time…
I agree, but Germany are showing that they’ve got talent as well – Ozil has been a revelation and Klose is now the joint-second top scorer all-time at World Cups……
Try to look beyond the hype and recognize the actual quality of the players. Lahm, Schweinsteiger, Mueller and Klose were in this season’s Champions League final. Mueller bagged more than 30 scorer points in the Bundesliga, German Cup and the CL in his first season as a pro, Klose is the second highest scorer in World Cup history, ahead of the likes of Pele.
Oezil was the best player of last year’s U21 European Championship Germany won. Everyone following international football should know Podolski, he’s been a prolific scorer in the DFB shirt. The pair in central defense are probably the least talented players on the squad, yet they still share almost 150 international matches and countless Bundesliga and UEFA Cup appearances between them.
Yea, there is Messi, but overall there is not that much difference in individual quality between the sides. That is not to say that Germany’s excellent team work didn’t make a difference in this match. It certainly did. This is not a case of some Sunday leaguers beating a team of world stars though. For some reason the global media loves to belittle the German players and national team, they came in third in 2006 and second in 2008 for God’s sake.
There’s a huge difference in the quality of their side. Germany is made up of Champions League caliber players. Argentina is Messi, Higuain, Tevez and a bunch of random players from the English Championship. Obviously some of the other other players are better than that (such as Samuel and Millito), but it seems that it’s a first rate attack coupled with a third rate defence.
Today Argentina looked like Man City on a bad day: attack anonymous, defence fragile and not linking up the midfield and Tevez running everywhere not knowing what he was doing.
“Germany is made up of Champions League caliber players. Argentina is Messi, Higuain, Tevez and a bunch of random players from the English Championship.”
Really? Truthfully speaking, I initially thought Lionel Messi and Gonzalo Higuain are Champions League-calibre stars for both of their team Barcelona and Real Madrid..
i agree satria, quite a lot of shite talk above, team, game, last season at club level is last season at club level cl or no cl.
That’s what I said. A few stars and a bunch 2nd league players. Read it again. I was making a contrast. Actually Glendenning at the start of the tournament said that the Argentinian team probably feature the greatest disparity between the stars and everyone else. Heaven forbid that I slight Messi.
‘Champions League caliber players’ – nothing learnt. it is not about individual class. yes, you need talent, etc. but Germany is about having a team, having a tactic, a game plan.
the German players are not better than the Argentineans (vice versa), but the team is functional. they know what to do and how to beat the opponent.
as much as i like to see Maradona on TV, you need a good manager and the manager needs time.
@hwk–I agree with you. Maradona had these stars and relied on them, and hoped that the defense wouldn’t balls it up. The manager and players had no plan to get the two halves play together and know how to play from the defense to the offense, and have the offense track back. Germany has some players who don’t play well for their clubs, but when they play together they are awesome. They can play that way because they know what’s expected of them.
Let’s have a look… the only player in the Argentine starting line-up that did not play CL within the last 2 years is Otamendi – whose problems were indeed ruthlessly exploited by Germany. Though it’s not like Friedrich can look upon a great club career, Boateng never played CL either.
And I’d say it’s defnitely a feat for random Championship players to start for CL level clubs like Bayern (Demichelis), Roma (Burdisso), Liverpool (Mascherano, Maxi R), Marseille (Heinze)…
disaster strikes argentina, bad tactical errors by maradona, higuain was aweful, militio should have come in, samuel and veron were needed badly in the 2nd half, argentina panicked too early in the 2nd half, opened up the gaps for the germans to exploit. horrible loss for argentina, they deserve better with the players they have, just need a coach with tactical intelligence, jose mourinho type of coach. Otamendi, demichelis were terrible in defence. very sad day.
I think Germany vs. Argentina showed cristal clear, that Dunga was right. Bringing the circus to town is not really helping against a good sorted and high quality side.
Bit of hyperbole there with “the most beautifully simple display of football you’ll ever see”. The technical qualities of the first attacker role from both teams was appalling for most of the game. Once the second goal went in Germany settled somewhat but the technique was awful. Players at this level should be making better decisions with the ball at their feet than a lot of these players on both sides did today.
Oh, yes, Germany were just awful today…simply awful…
Yes, there’s nothing much to say that hasn’t been said yet. The germans are playing an atractive football, and Maradona just used the “let’s put all the stars and see if Messi scores a goal”. Unfortunately, his luck is over.
Maradona proved beyond any doubt today that he has zero understanding of modern football. Slow, defensive fullbacks, outnumbered in midfield, relying on a trequartista to create chances. Absolute tactical failure. The only reason biancoceleste made it this far is because the opposition in the previous games was pathetic. That said, props to Germany for yet another excellent display of discipline, passion and simplicity. They certainly look good for the title.
Amen, Pinturicchio.
Maradona managed to improve the human relations in this Argentina side, picking-up the pieces left from the shambles of the qualification campaign, but he and his assistants (Mancuso and Bilardo) show no awareness of the tactical development of modern football.
I mean, Bilardo! Come on! The guy is a tactical dinosaur who told Marcela Mora y Araujo after watching an English Premiership game that he thought that the top PL sides would suffer playing any team in the Argentine championship!
Jonathan Wilson recently wrote that Argentina’s tactical approach in this tournament has been redolent of the ‘broken team’ strategy of the early-90s; in other words, regardless of formation or personel the team is divided into defensive and offensive duties with very little articulation in between. And you saw this with this particular Argentina side; no midfield to speak of. A winger in Di Maria playing as a box-to-box midfielder..
And it matters little in what exact proportion the broken team divides into defensive:offensive components; in 1986 Bilardo went for a 7:3 split and it payed off. Nowadays, Maradona was going for a 6:4 or even a 5:5 split with no articulation, no graduation to link the two sectos, and more disastrously the defensive componenet was already undermined due to the defenders’ very own woefulness!
Bilardo has nothing to do with this – he does not participate in the selection of strategy, in fact the only . Mancuso, on the other hand, was selected due to his friendship with DM and not due to his tactical awareness.
In the end, it was evident from our game with Mexico that a three man midfield with Germany was a no go. At least, not with the same players. Veron should have played providing possession in the midfield and a slower pace, which would have been more adequate against a team such as Germany which has shown his abilities as a great counterattacking team. Argentina can outplay Germany in a slower game, with more possession of the ball, not intending to outrun them. In fact, although Germany could impose its game on other areas of the pitch, it was always originated on the supremacy in the central midfield.
An early goal plus a very good defense until the 2nd goal was scored did the rest.
Congrats to Germany on a very good win, but I believe DM’s own strategy (lack of) was an important contributor in the feat.
Emilio,
who would you want to take Argentina into Copa America 2011, Olympic Games 2012 and ultimately the World Cup in 2014?
Bianchi? Gerardo Martino? Bielsa? Pekerman?….
It was clear right from the start that if Argentina advanced, it would be because the Germans missed their chances. I couldn’t count the number of times that Germany had a player (usually Schweinsteiger) wide open in the middle of the field, 30 yards from the Argentinian goal.
Considering all that space, it seems like an even worse decision to not bring either of Cambiasso/Zanetti. Both of those players would have been perfect for this game in 4-4-1-1 formation, providing a solid shield in front of the back four and creating a situation where Argentina could break into space with Messi. As it was, their offense consisted entirely of long-range blasts and Messi or Tevez trying to dribble through three Germans at once.
Did you all realised most of the goals were crossed in or squared from the left? Most of the time Schweinsteiger drift to the left a little as there is so much space on the right hand side of the Argentines!
Germany aren’t amazing. As you say, they’re good footballers with a solid plan playing intelligently.
They’ve annihilated Australia (who are rubbish), lost to Serbia, beaten Ghana, (who were enthusiastic), and beaten England (who played very badly). Argentina had a very bad plan and some defective players.
Germany are fun to watch against poor opposition but against another team of good footballers following a good plan then anything could happen.
I think they are amazing.
They have consistently outplayed their opponents including Serbia, even though they lost to Serbia.
If Australia, Ghana, England and Argentina are just rubbish or enthusiastic or played badly, then who should have Germany played to convince you? North Korea, Mexico and Chile?
In paper, it seemed that the Germans had the toughest route to the semi-final, England and Argentina, yet they made it seem as if they had two training sessions.
Couldn’t have written it better myself Mahmut
To be honest, I don’t think they outplayed Ghana at all – if Ghana weren’t so horrible at finishing, I think they would’ve won that game. Their youth and energy really matched up well against the Germans.
I do think that Germany are blessed with brilliant individuals in great form plus a top-class coach, but I also think that Australia, Argentina, and England had extremely poor defenses and poor tactics in these games. I would’ve really enjoyed watching Germany against Brazil – as it is I think I’ll have to settle for Holland and Spain
Just wonder what people will say if they theoretically win the World Cup having beaten Netherlands, Spain, Argentina, England, Ghana, etc. Oh, if they had only played Brazil, then it would of been different, or maybe North Korea (insert sarcasm). Yes, I think this German team can be in trouble if they get scored on first, or are trying to come back. But to say that scoring 8 goals in the Round of 16 and Quarterfinals which has never been done before, against teams like Argentina and England, is nothing. Well that is just asinine in my opinion. I somehow doubt we will see as many comments on Spain not being any good because they “only” beat lowly Paraguay by one goal. Instead it will be, now Germany will get shown up by the bigger names of Spain, and if that fails to happen, rinse and repeat with Netherlands.
Agree totally. Germany got no respect before this game and will be overlooked playing Spain and possibly Holland. This team is deep, talented, young, and well coached. Not to mention the apparent chemistry which should not be dismissed as well. These aren’t your grandfathers Germans.
As I have said before, play 4-4-2 against germany at your own peril. Ghana and Serbia where the only 2 teams not to play 4-4-2 and they were both quite competative against Germany. Everyone else played 4-4-2 (Aust, Eng and Arg) and each of them conceded 4. Not rocket science.
Whether players are functioning or defective depends on how good the opposing side are. You play badly because opposition is good. Argentina versus 11 poles (no pun intended) in the ground would have been a good game for them probably.
So according to you which is a real team.
Not Uruguay
Not Netherlands(They were masters of 1-0 wins)
Not Spain(They lost to Swiss, won 1-0 with Paraguay)-and without Villa they may have gone home
Not Brazil(They lost to defensively weaker Netherlands)
Definitely not Argentina or England
Not Portugal(Who only scored against Korea DPR
Great article! I thought Germany was brilliant today and their performance showed how organization and discipline can negate individual quality. I was really surprised when I saw the lineup for Argentina. I was hoping that Maradona would line up his side to match Germany’s in a 4-2-3-1 shape. I think Veron alongside Mascherano would have added a great deal of stability to Argentina’s play. It’s a shame to see Argentina go out of the tournament, Maradona definitely added some entertainment to this World Cup. But at the end of the day, Germany were the better side by far and deserved to progress.
It seemed like the first time in the tournament that Maradona’s tactical limitations really came forward, matched up against an excellent German side led by a good coach in Loew.
Good article, ZM, and impressive rapid turnaround. Last sentence in the 3rd paragraph uses German twice when the second should be “Argentine central midfield.”
The most remarkable thing to me was watching Schweinsteiger emerge in the latter part of the game as a bit of his old creative winger self. Both the assist and his previous run down the right before getting fouled by Mascherano were superb, and there are few central midfielders with that kind of close control.
I used to find him incredibly frustrating as a winger in his early Bayern career (as with CR9 in early days at ManU), and as I don’t follow German football closely over the last couple of years it has been a revelation that he’s developed into something of a conservative central midfielder. To see him let loose with some pragmatically deployed stepovers and then make a timely, powerful run into the box against the tiring Argentines was just wonderful, and I felt extremely impressed with his development as a player that he has learned to control and harness his terrific flair abilities and use them at the right time.
Kudos to Magath, or whoever molded him into the player he is today. I thought he was terrific in this game, and indeed in the other games I’ve seen in the tourney. A wonderful talent.
Germany did a great job pressing today too. It seemed like they allowed very little time on the ball for the Argentine players when it was in the German half, and their numerical advantage at the back made it unlikely that they would be caught out by a player left unmarked. Just wonderful stuff from the Germans.
They also break with just tremendous precision. On the second goal from Klose, Mascherano made a mistake chasing the ball when he really had the time to mark Klose out of the play entirely.
All that said, Argentina created a few decent chances, and just didn’t finish them off. Maradona playing Di Maria inside-out let him get a couple of good shots on goal, and Higuain had a good chance when Messi freed him in the second half. But they just didn’t test the goalie properly, shooting right at him or skying their shots throughout. Messi’s snap shot that was deflected right at Neuer, and on and on.
The thing that surprises me the most about Bastian is that this is the first time that he consistently plays as the organizer/leader/brain of team. He used to be in shadow of van bommel and ballack.
Correct analysis of Schweinsteiger.
I am from Germany and therefore watched him very closely over the years. I agree with you that he was missplaced as a winger and offensive midfielder. He was always watched as the big prospect coming up for germany, but never made the deciding step forward. Too slow as a winger, too less creativity as offensive midfielder.
This defensive midfield position is perfect for him because he still has the qualitiy of a decent offensive midfielder and combines it with his defensive skills, so he is not just a “destroyer” but a playing defensive midfielder.
Zonal marking often talks about this fluid-playing german side. This fluid system is supported by the missing of Ballack and the removal of Schweinsteiger in the offensive line. Both used to slow the game down, especially on counter attacks.
Great article, looking forward to Germany-Paraguay/Spain
Thanks for the background. I haven’t seen much of Germany recently aside from 2006 and 2008, and I was wondering about the impact of Ballack not playing, given how this side seems more dynamic than the recent versions. This makes sense.
Why didn’t Mascherano mark Klose? Because no one has imagined that Podolski will pass the ball rather than shot himself…
Joking
Excellent article as usual. However there are two mistakes in the last sentence of the third paragraph: “with he picked up by by Javier Mascherano, Germany were sweeping forward in numbers and overawing the German central midfield.”
Presumably, this is meant to read “with him picked up…overawing the Argentinian central midfield.”
Sorry to be pedantic. It’s a good article, nonetheless.
Hopefully Germany will finally get the credit they deserve now. Although I’m sure more people will try to downplay their performance and ability as a team.
It was truely a damning indictment of Maradona’s ability as a coach. Not to take anything away from Germany who were very very good, but it just shows that having numerous world class players playing in a Playstation style will get results against middling teams – against the big sides you will not stand a chance.
My main surprise was the relationship between Schweinstiger and Messi. I thought despite early commentators on this site thinking Khedira would have the task of man-marking Messi, in actual fact Schweinsteger had more of this role initially.
But what we found was the German did not really have to do much chasing and defending, because it was him who was constantly in space and in possession. There was very little pressure. So while Schwein (or Khedira) had the instruction to chase down Messi, the opposite did not apply and Messi stayed as far up as he felt. No doubt this is also Maradona’s instruction.
But surely the key to cracking Germany is to occupy Schwienstiger. Take the battery out of the clock as it were. But Maradona had no intention of doing this and the more Schwein. got the ball the less he had to track Messi.
Where you would expect the Argentina team to be a vessel to get the best out of the World’s best player, in actual fact it openly hindered him, by simply not giving him the supply. It was as if he had to start moves, progress moves and then finish moves all by himself. Someone with a bit of creative passing would have been ideal to get Messi running into dangerous areas.
Furthermore, I won’t go into Maradona’s view that CB’s can be passed as full-backs. Or that you can afford 3 players to stay up the pitch and do as they please. And in such a situation you can play 2 wingers in the middle along-side Mascherano.
There are so many holes in that team tactically that it’s surprising they even got this far.
Cheers for the quick report by the way, I agree with everything said and just wanted to throw in my 2 cents.
If you occupy Scwiensteiger then you’re probably leaving Oezil open.
I appreciate that that may very well be the case but let’s just say the level of pressure on Schweinsteger was unacceptable.
Good point. Özil wasen’t influencial compared to the other games in the competition because of tight marking from Mascherano. But this in turn allowed Schweinsteiger to get forward.
He may wasnt that striking, anyway he managed to get 93% of his passes to his teammates and his running-distance is about 11 Kilometers (comp. Messi: 79%, 8.6 km)
good observations guys…
so the summary of this whole chain is never have fewer players in the midfield than the opposition
“But surely the key to cracking Germany is to occupy Schwienstiger. Take the battery out of the clock as it were. But Maradona had no intention of doing this and the more Schwein. got the ball the less he had to track Messi.”
i completely agree with you
did anyone miss Cambiasso and Zanetti? and where’s Milito?
Germany —> simplicity is the key.
Argentina —> stupidity is the key.
Oh and there’s another: throw a 4-1-1-4 formation in the last third of the game… LMAOL.
In my 2 cents worth of opinion, Cambiasso and Zanetti should have been uncontested first choice players of the Argentina team.
Only if Zanetti and Cambiasso were on the pitch today with Milito as spearhead, I bet Germany would have problems. But……
I just hope Zanetti could keep up his good form and maybe play 2014 WC
Zanetti? – he’s 36 (nearly)!?!?!? – he won’t be at the next World Cup…..
This was the game where Maradona’s whimsical selections came back to haunt him.
What Argentina needed was another Central midfielder who could do both defensive work and supply Messi and the forwards. But there was really nobody like that on the bench – Veron, who can do the passing bit, doesn’t have the legs; Pastore is a trequarista without any defensive ability (as Schweinsteiger showed by ghosting past him (and Higuain) for the third goal), leaving only Bolatti, perhaps the weakest midfielder in the squad, but one who could nevertheless have been effective in this game, had he been picked.
But the players who could have been exceptionally effective were all left out of the squad: Lucho Gonzalez, good in defence, a brilliantly metronomic and creative passing midfielder; Ever Banega, probably the young man around whom Argentina’s midfield should be built over the next decade; Fernando Gago, a great foil for Mascherano in the Olympic Gold Medal winning Squad; and obviously Cambiasso.
Maradona looked clueless from the moment his squad was announced but today was the day his cluelessness was proven..
Germany played the game perfectly and if they get past Spain, they’ll win it.
Could not agree more. You just have to put the rock trio of Mascherano-Gago-Cambiasso in midfield then you tell Messi and Tevez to take turns of spreading wide and going deep when they regain the possession.
Simple football: when one of those rock trio get the ball (with their hard tackle LOL), just pass the ball to the diminutive forwards and let Milito do the rest.
Di Maria and Maxi were completely USELESS and had no clue on where to move.
Could have been…
Even Germany would be better with Ballack or Simon Rolfes instead of Khedira, Westermann instead of Boateng and Adler instead of Neuer.
and they left another Milito, Gabriel. H
very true! schweinsteiger in this World cup & CL has been at his best. Certainly his midfield awareness is something that has brought life into the german side. Honestly though at the start of the match i had my doubts as to whether he would be able to handle messi.. as khedira is more often looking to make a run into the opponents half. But he has proved he is capable enough to do that and more, his run to the left wing in the assist was great. I dont think argentina had any tackler to get the ball from him and he run them ragged. As for whether ballack’s absence has been a blessing in disguise surely in hindsight people might say so.. but ballack is a strong willed marshall who germany would have wanted in their 11.
Also particularly heartening is the assured play from the center backs, arguably the weak link of this german side. True, higuain alone was not a big threat as messi and tevez were playing from the half line
but they did their job well.
As for argentina, milito should have started or atleast come on at half time… higuain scored against weak teams and is not in the true mould of striker who can trouble center backs with his presence. Their formation was also ineffective and asking to be punished. Still beats me how maradona could not select cambiasso/ zanetti but go for veron …
the ideal line up would have been
milito
higuain tevez messi
masch camb
heinze samuel burdisso zanetti
subs: dimaria, maxi, palermo, pastore, otamendi, demichelis, gago , lucho
It will be interesting as to how germany will shape up against spain… villa on the left means lahm’s movement is restricted. And the most effective way to tackle spain’s triangle is to play a pressing game (Ref: Swiss). With muller missing out would loew bring kroos/trochoski/marin is an interesting dilemma..
«the only surprise is that they [the last 3 goals] all came from the side of the pitch that Lahm wasn’t on»
not really. After Maradona withdrew Otamendi, it was obvious that would be the area to explore. That’s why Özil moved there.
First mistake of Maradona, leaving Cambiasso at home and not fielding Veron for this match. Maxi Rodriguez was useless
Second mistake, Messi as a number 10 (or enganche). He is a lot better when he plays as an inside forward cutting inside from the right flank to shoot or make through balls as he does in Barca. His role as playmaker could have been taken by Veron.
Third mistake, fielding two forwards who didn’t track back. Thus leaving time on the ball to Schweinsteiger who was more than happy to dictate the play.
Fourth mistake: Otamendi instead of Gutierrez. No comment.
The guy is definitely incompetent
Edit: Fourth mistake: using a centerback and a winger as right back instead of Zanetti.
As much as I love Argentina and would have love to have seen them thrash Germany, they were seriously outclassed. It makes me feel so bad for Messi because EVERYONE will be blaming it on Messi but like you said, he was working so hard, probably the hardest on the whole team. I’m glad that he’s still young and he still has many years left in him and hopefully their next coach (I’m assuming Maradona won’t be the coach for the next World Cup) will be able to tactically organise and develop the Argentinian side to be able to support the star players that they do have.
Oh and develop a better defense.
It’s sad though that Müller will be missing the next game against (probably) Spain, I think he didn’t deserve that yellow card for nothing really… a very important, and high-scoring, player.
Spain will be a much tougher game also.. hopefuly Löw will give a Kroos a chance. Let’s see what Paul the octopus oracle (has been right on all 5 German games so far) says for the next game…
I think Trochowski will get the nod ahead of Kroos, simply because Kroos is more of a central playmaker, but maybe Löw will move Özil out to the right, even though his been amazing for the whole competition. But Müller moves a lot inside to create space for Lahm, and I think Özil will do a great job on the right too.
Unlikely. The introduction of Trochowski closer to the end was clearly intended to give him some more action before next wednesday’s match.
Except Loew has played Trochowski as a substitute in all but one of Germany’s matches — and for various players, to boot. There’s no guarantee that Kroos or Marin doesn’t get the nod instead.
If Leow has used Marko Marin as a substitute, I would have loved to see him a the optional winger. He had a ferocious partnership with Oezil at Bremen.
wonderful analysis.
It seems to me Germany is performing well against opponents playing 4-4-2, whereas against teams playing 4-2-3-1 they struggled a lot more.
Does anyone else think Germany have peaked a little early? Netherlands/Spain still building momentum. Just a thought?
Netherlands yes, but not Spain. Only once have the Spaniards won by more than one goal. If they didn’t have Villa, what would they do? And if Villa wasn’t lucky, what would he do? Spain is good but uninspired. The Dutch seem to have decided to play as team, and are drawing inspiration from that. The Germans have been peaking too early for the whole tournament.
What do you think of Uruguay? I don’t think Forlan can beat the Dutch by himself.
did they already peak?
Have been reading for quite some time and felt I should finally express my gratitude to ZM for contributing to the good cause of making football analysis part of punditry. I dare say that the effects of insightful grass root commentary such as this is starting to have an effect on traditional media. Or at least it provides an outlet for those among us who long for football talk that is actually about football.
Something about this German side is extremely peculiar, about the whole tournament even: Die Mannschaft has actually taken the standard that the 4-2-3-1 formation has become and infused the spirit of totaal voetbal, in spite of what Sacchi thought 4-2-3-1 would do to the beautiful game. In doing so they turned the world upside down. Who would have thought that an Argentinian side would bring to the tournament what German coach Volker Finke called “Heldenfußball”, reliance on heroic super stars, whilst Germany is subscribing to the opposite philosophy and perhaps the strongest contender of “Systemfußball”? That is unheard of in German football, at least since the playful side of ‘72.
Thus the battle of trends between reliance on specialists vs unversalists in football is taken to the 4-2-3-1 by a side that sports two holding midfielders neither of whom is modeled after the Makelele/Deschamps style of the number six that was deemed almost indispensable and sees their front four expertly switching positions (well, there’s still a specialist in Podolski, the outlet of thunderous finishes from the left for the passing game). The mind boggles. Quite a refreshing change of pace, is it not?
I am sorry to say that I conduct my attempts at football analysis in my native tongue, but for the few German speakers reading ZM who might be interested in some animated analysis of the trends in this world cup and the German side in particular I would like to refer you to:
http://kontextschmiede.de/wm-taktikbericht-ein-zwischenfazit/
Again, no credit. Why is it so difficult to give full credit to Germany? Why the stereotypes and consistent backhanded compliments? I find it usually has to do with an ignorant assessment that has no rational backing. I usually dig deep to find a historical bias.
Most fans will bring up the stereotype of boring dull, efficient but that originated in the 80’s and in the 00’s but that represents about %5 of their history. Historically speaking they have always emphasized total organized attacking football. If you do research on ‘Der Club’ the 30’s Nuremberg side, the Breslau Elf and the Schalke side that began innovating the game well before the Hungarians and dominated German footbal before the inception of the Bundesliga, and then we can always discuss Sepp Herberger, Helmut Schoen and the 70’s sides.
What is required to be amazing? To be South American or Iberian? This Germany side, although young, encompasses everything that works about football. It completely takes into consideration the requirements to play that brand of football to a level of success.
Personally, I think Germany have been the most entertaining team to watch in this tournament. To see the youth come through and step up to the plate is a really refreshing sight. Muller and Ozil have been revelations where the likes of Messi, Rooney and Ronaldo have failed.
I think what ZM is trying to get at is that Maradona should have seen where England and Australia failed but instead made the same mistakes. He let his midfield get overran, his defence leave gaping holes and his strikers play too one-dimensional.
It’s almost a given that this Germany team is one of the strongest in this tournament. We saw that against Australia in the first game, albeit against a tactically naive team. As this site is about tactics, it’s only right that we should focus on the tactics of both teams. And Germany…as in their previous 4 games….were solid and great. You can’t keep repeating that.
The three best possession teamwork sides are through to the final four (Germany, Spain, Netherlands). Both Spain and Netherlands have had a tougher time for two reasons: 1) both have played against far more defensively difficult sides that closed down space, and 2) both have out-of-form strikers as dead-weight (Torres much more so than van Persie, who contributes more with his off-the-ball movement).
In any case, we are now going to see like vs like: Spain vs Germany, and one of those vs Netherlands (who I don’t see losing to Uruguay) in the final. Those two games should be great contests, especially if Torres starts on the bench for Spain.
I think you could could argue that Uruguay is a similar team in terms of possession and teamwork to Germany, Holland, and Spain, but with a more defensive emphasis. Holland might have trouble breaking them down.
I definitely agree. Germany have been tactically perfect throughout this tournament. You can only play who’s put in front of you and they’ve despatched those teams with ease.
I hope Germany beat Spain for the simple fact that Spain have bored me throughout this entire tournament. They have the ability to play really attacking but choose to play slow, possession football. For the neutral to see a team full of that much talent is disappointing. At least the Germans have used both holding midfielders as creative players who try to spray the ball around quickly.
On the note of Torres: Who would have though that Torres, Rooney, Ronaldo and Messi would only score 1 goal between them? Torres has had a torrid season with injuries but surely needs to be dropped for the German maybe. Maybe start with Llorente who really got the team ticking in the previous match or put Villa up front.
“Both Spain and Netherlands have had a tougher time for two reasons: 1) both have played against far more defensively difficult sides that closed down space, and 2) both have out-of-form strikers as dead-weight (Torres much more so than van Persie, who contributes more with his off-the-ball movement).”
1.) For me, this sounds like: Netherlands and Spain would have won against Argentina and England with 4-1, 4-0 as well. I don’t think so.
2.) just take a look at the german team where you will find Podolski and Klose, who both had the worst season in their entire career. Count their Bundesliga goals and you’ll get 5. Count their corld cup goals and you’ll get 6. Something must have gone terribly wrong in the dutch/spanish team.
It’s not just the finishing. Both Podolski and Klose work like crazy off the ball, and are team players. Torres is barely moving, and both him and RvP are dead ends when receiving the ball,trying to finish it themselves.
I like what Klose is doing off the ball, but much of the credit must go to his team mates for his goals. He was well set up by his team mates for his goals today. The second was a peach, great form, but the first was bobbled before second touched in. Throughout the tournament, he really hasn’t been in great striking form, many unmarked misses from the box that a Forlan or Villa would have buried.
I don’t think that the german gameplay is based upon possession. They had 46% possession against Argentina and 49% against England ( and I reckon the number was significantly smaller when the match was still competetive and the opposite side still pressed).
It is more based upon spaces: to create them while attacking (surely easier when already in the lead) and to deny them them while defending. They are happy when the opponent has the ball, but try to obviate any clear goal opportunities and switch to attack mode as fast as possible when they get into possession.
You’re right Treter. I was being too general by calling it possession gameplay. What I mean is the opposite of kick and chase in direct channels, and indeed, that is about creating space when attacking. It requires working the ball out of the back, great touch, positional awareness among players, movement off-the-ball and overlapping runs, willingness to move the ball in all directions (not just forward) and the willingness to keep working the ball until a good chance presents itself. All three teams I mention manifest these qualities in their own unique way.
If an opposing defense were locking down hard, it wouldn’t surprise me to see Germany pass the ball 20 times before shooting. However, of the three teams, Germany has the best aerial attack options, so the value of crossing the ball into the box is higher.
I’ve been struck by the arrogance of both England and Argentina in how they approached Germany. Both stuck to formations that didn’t match up well with what Germany did and both seemed to think Germany would be forced to adapt. In both cases, Germany said thank you and promptly bossed the midfield for the entire match. The team that beats Germany, if anyone, is going to have to match them in the midfield. That will mean preventing the Germans from overloading (Argentina) or letting ozil operate with free reign (England). The approach Ghana took all tournament (pack the midfield with two way players and a solid shape) seems to be the only way to Germany from dominating the center of the pitch, and by extension the match.
I agree, both England and Argentina had managers who used the players they had at their disposal in completely the wrong ways, and Germany were not only organised enough, but showed enough World-Class quality to outclass both teams……
Another great display from Germany and another great article on ZM.
What I can add is that Germany and the Netherlands have completely identical tactical schemes. I should not be coincidence that they both won against the South American giants Brazil and Argentina.
It seems both Germany and Netherlands rely on two defensive midfielders (Van Bommel and de Jong for the Dutch and Khedira and Bastian for Germany). The difference is that the German duo is faster. Snejder and Ozil are the free midfielders. The wide men at both sides are doing the best both defensively and offensively. The mobile forwards are RVP and Klose, with the latter scoring obviously much more.
By the way, Uruguay are also quite similar to those two schemes, though there are some differences. But anyway, they also have two DM and their most skillful player Forlan giving a lot of freedom.
So, it was too early to write off the European teams. It seems another All European final is in the cards.
ZM, what do you think about this?
Cheers
Actually, both play on opposing ends of the spectrum when it comes to adding fluidity to the 4-2-3-1 and I assume Cryuff is fuming at the prospect of seeing his beloved Oranje advancing “German style” while Germany are approaching totaal voetbal. Schweinsteiger and Khedira play nothing like van Bommel and de Jong. Both styles have merit, but the German interpretation of the holding midfielder is something genuinely special, if not unique.
(I explained in more detail in a comment that I assume is pending because of a link. ZM?)
It is what the midfield is taught to be for half of the century: Box-to-box.
Of course, the one-tricked-ness of the Argentines created the licence to go forward. It would change next game unless Del Bosque stick with Torres.
While Van Bommel and de Jong have more static positions, Khedira and Schweinsteiger always play higher up on the field when needed. They also have the pace needed to quickly drop back to their defensive positions when necessary. That’s what gives the Germans an advantage in running the midfield and creating numerical superiority chances.
Terribly unfortunate the referee gave a pitiful yellow card to Thomas Mueller. Germany will face their hardest opponent without one of their most important players.
Here’s hoping the rest of the team steps up as they’ve done with the loss of Ballack.
Totally agree Skyler.
Unbelievable but true. Müller has only 7 caps for Germany but is already a key player.
It would have been a better match if Germany had not scored so early. Scoring early meant that they can stick to their tactic of playing on the counter. The scoreline does not reflect the tight match. Argentina had their chances I think, but they held on to the ball longer and were closed down by the German defenders. Schweinsteiger was left with a lot of time and space in the middle, the fact that Argentinian tactical team did not realize that and plug that lead to their downfall. Messi playing in the hole should have closed down Schweinsteiger. Also the Argentine wingers were too narrow helping the Germans to close them down when they came inside. Tactically Maradona and his team let the Argentinians down, they gave nothing different for the German team to think about.
Ever since Pep’s taken over, we’ve seen Messi focus on attacking and barely defend. Pep even stated that he wants Messi to focus on his attacking duties because there are enough defenders to stop the opposition. So maybe Messi has continued that with Argentina.
The tactics of Maradona were horribly wrong. Germany have turned into Spain in that once they score first, it’s almost impossible to break them down. It’d be interesting to see how they deal with Spain (presuming they beat Paraguay) as both teams play a 4-2-3-1 but Spain have better quality players. It’ll be a game of very few chances with a moment of quality deciding the outcome.
I’m sorry but what have you seen thus far that backs up your “Spain has better quality players” statement.
Club form? Because I’m pretty sure this is a national side tournament.
Agree. The German players are grossly underrated, probably because they play in Bundesliga, and, quite frankly, no one watches Bundesliga except for the Germans.
While Spain’s version at Euro 2008 was really impressive, this team is slower and tends to overuse the side passing. From time to time, it makes me remember Pekerman’s Argentina.
My money is on Germany reaching the final.
Klose might be the best example for that. Even in Germany his nomination was highly debated. Now he has a good chance to tie or even break the record for overall goals scored in World Cups.
If I remember correctly, Guardiola famously said to Messi “You are the best player in the world with the ball, now you must become the best player without the ball”, emphasizing that Messi needs to focus on his defensive duties. You see him close down opponents without the ball all the time, as does every other Barca player.
I suppose Maradona had specifically told Messi not to waste energy defending, as he did to Tevez and Higuain.
..well, only goal number 4 came on the counter….
First time I post here, excelent site. I have to say that even though I am Romanian I’ve supported Argentina ever since I can remember(first football game I ever saw was oddly enough Germany-Argentina in 1990-and my first football image is Maradona crying I think after they got second place losing to that Brehme penalty).
I won’t bother saying that the argies missed Cambiasso,Zanetti and Riquelme. Fact of the matter is most players on the field were just outclassed by their direct opponents, and Loew is simply more of a tactician than Maradona will ever be in my humble opinion.No excuse for throwing in a too young and inexperienced(and maybe just plain weak) Otamendi on the right side, Demi was error prone in almost all his games in SA, Burdisso was never trully a class act and Heinze just can’t cut it anymore at this level.The only good defender they had was Samuel(who maybe was injured, I don’t really know).
Di Maria and Rodriguez were both poor(never liker Rodriguez, and Di Maria I’ve never watched that much of), and anyway both are wingers.
Maradona brought(strangely) Bolatti-why not try using him next to Mascherano, who was always outnumbered.Veron would have also been good.
There was just too much wrong with this game(from an Argentina fan point of view) to write anymore, but the Panzers were great(never liked them though, but this team of theirs might just win me over cause they’re not like the German teams I’ve seen before, they’re actually pleasant to watch
).
Kudos ZM, keep up the good work.Cheers from Romania.
Argentina did have quite a bit of possession in the first half and before he second goal, but the German defence was just too strong and alert. Too many tame shots directed at the German keeper. I thought di Maria switched flanks because he couldn’t cope with Lahm. Haha, what a waste for Real Madrid.
Anyway, I must eat my words, it’s just as well that Heinze left Man Utd. He was woeful along with the rest of the Argentine defence.
Excellent game by Germany. I was amazed at the space and time Schweinsteiger had, several times, in Argentina’s defensive zone; you could see him running with the ball, getting closer, stopping, looking, and passing the ball rarely having to worry about pressure. That was ridiculous, no wonder he had such a great game.
First half of the first half, it was all Germany. If Klose had gotten that 2-0, I wonder if Germany could have scored even more, with Argentina having to risk even more, and earlier, than they did.
Muller was amazing on the second goal; lying on the pitch, with his back to the goal and still he was able to make the pass to Podolski that led to the goal.
The underappreciation of some of the commentators here and in other places about the German team is starting to anger me. I mean, Germany has thrashed their opponents in such a dominant way, the value of the other teams has dropped and suddnely it is as if the teams they beat were not that good to begin with. That’s ridiculous. England and Argentina are good teams, but could of course be better; they were outclassed and humilliated in such a way, that it looks like Germany had it easy. cja’s comment is a perfect example of this.
Can’t wait for the semi finals and finals, hoping for a repeat of 1974’s final.
Again, if this was Argentina, Brazil, Spain, any other Latin or Iberian team they would be lauded as the reincarnation of Brazil ‘70.
I don’t know who you’ve encountered criticism from.
I am absolutely DROOLING at this SUPERB GERMANY! They are fantastic and deserve any recognition they get. Absolutely fantastic side.
Argentineans and now Brazilians are just are a combination of skill, marketing and their mouths! What is the best part of this Germany is they let their GAME DO THE TALKING.
Just a little remark ZM : on your diagram, you mention Di Maria on the left and Maxi on the right, but unusually, it was the opposite, which allowed both of them (espcially Di Maria) to come in the centre of the pitch.
But I think this was a poor decision, considering that with a natural centre-back (Heinze/Otamendi) with an inverted foot on each side, it was very difficult for them to get a cross in the box, and the Argentinian play was too narrowed. Do you share this opinion ?
Well actually they started the game as portrayed on the diagram. I think it took around 30 minutes for the 2 midfielders to swap sides.
I guessed that they thought Di Maria might have more success attacking down the right against Boateng than on the left against Lahm. However, I thought Boateng (and indeed the German defence as a whole) had a much better game than against England.
First post to this website, and may I say, what a fantastic website. Really good to see in depth tactical analysis, and not just what you get on BBC Sport.
I’m English, but I simply have to respect Germany, there a very well organised, disciplined side. The defence is unspectacular, but very organised, and they get the job done, but Germany win games in midfield. Schweinsteiger is a class player, I can see him going to Chelsea, he just sits deeps and dominates, but he offers a defensive option also, he marshalled Messi well, and then also Ozil and Khedera. Ozil just finds space, then he dominates from there, and Khedera is a good box to box player. I think the opposition, focus more on picking up Ozil, meaning Khedera is left with gaps to exploit.
Klose up front is very good, brilliant in the air, good movement and quality finisher, I honestly think the Germans will win the tournament, regardless of whether Spain win or not.
As for Argentina, agree with what has been said really, Maradona’s approach was basically, stick loads of attacking players, and see if we can score some goals, tactically poor and today they paid the price.
Keep the articles up!
One of the teams I was looking forward to watching at the start of the tournament was Germany and they haven’t disappointed. Their brand of simple, effective, technical and direct football is a joy to behold. I would love to see them play against all of the top teams. Well done to Low for taking Klinsmann’s blueprint and improving on it. This is real football based on team work, logic and tactics.
I don’t know about that. While there are some general ideas left of the Klinsmann years, Germany play an extremely different game than they did in 2006.
If you remember they fielded a 4-4-2 with essentially four central midfielders, not so much regarding the space they occupied but certainly the function they were supposed to fill. Despite the omnipresent talk about vertical passing it was all about not loosing the ball in midfield, slowing down the play if necessary and thereby allowing the whole team to keep cohesion at all times.
Fast forward to 2010 we’re looking at a 4-2-4 rather, Schweinsteiger, Khedira and to an extent Lahm being the relays between defense and the four attackers. While Podolski and Mueller did work a lot in defense today their primary purpose is to score goals, goals, goals and so they did during this tournament.
That’s pretty much all Loew and certainly not a Klinsmann blueprint.
Well Klinsmann revolutionized Germany’s approach. He implemented a much more direct, technical and intelligent style of play. I think that’s what Rvll meant. The system itself evolved due to tactical necessities and better personnel available but the overall idea remains. It will continue to change after the WC when more of the young generation is integrated.
If anything Klinsmann and Loew resurrected Germany’s football tradition. During the vast majority of the six decades after the last World War the “direct, technical and intelligent style of play” has been the trademark of the Mannschaft.
No revolution there, although I see your point about stirring things up within the German FA.
Of course, historically Germany has always played this way. Only recently has there been a downwards trend which fuel all the dumb stereotypes. Klinsmann and Co. simply reintroduced the style along with the new generation of capable players coming up. Again, you’re right about the FA as well, needed a major kick up the arse.
Don’t forget that Löw was Klinsmann’s right-hand man. Löw was the tactics guy, while Klinsmann was the big motivator.
The revolution in German football is a Klinsmann/Löw co-production from the get-go. And the DFB deserves a lot of credit for revamping our youth development programme.
Further, a lot of credit goes to the Bundesliga – a league that has made a strong comeback in recent years. It’s a shame too few have taken note of that. It’s a great league. Perhaps the most exciting league out there these days.
I must say I’m a bit surprised many people claim the German team’s exciting for the very first time. Short memories. The same was said in 2006 and our team really was one of the most exciting sides four years ago.
Stereotypes clearly die very hard. Time to have a more open mind.
Klinsmann is an ESPN analyst appearing on the USA broadcasts (see http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=5298378). Wish I could remember more of what he said on this particular game.
One of the things pointed out was that about ten years ago, Germany redid their youth development system from top to bottom; they have the second youngest team at the tournament. http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2010/jul/02/world-cup-2010-germany-flair
Muller’s yellow card is unfortunate. It was a soft card and he did nothing that deserved a 1 match ban. But who do you think is the replacement for Muller? Trochowski would be the straight swap, but he had trouble linking up with rest of the team in the friendly against Bosnia and Herzegovina. Marin is a more exciting choice but also a bit more of a risk.
I think Kroos would be the best choice. He’s a central midfielder (usually more attack-minded, even though Löw considers him a holding midfielder mainly for this tournament, due to the lack of players on this position), but has played left or right midfield before. Very talented player (in my opinion the most talented on the German team), who doesn’t hold on to the ball quite as long as Trochowski, while being a bit stronger than Marin defensively.
totally agree. kroos is as much as a right winger as müller was to start with. he will do great, great talent, more than enough for this world cup…
but does löw have the guts to play fussball total? i sure hope so…
Ideal solution: Move Özil to right wing, start Kroos in mid. Give both their free drifting role, and they will naturally interchange positions (just as Müller and Özil did so well).
I’m with the Kroos crowd on this one. His contribution to the passing game is much smoother than Trochowski’s in build up. One must bear in mind that the natural substitute would be a fit Cacao though, who is the only one adding natural penetration of the box to the mix of talents – which incidentally would even make Kiessling a conceivable choice although his lack of form is probably forbidding that. And Kroos can only replace Müller if Khedira is fit to play.
Absolutely fantastic performance from Germany. Master class! On behalf of Mexican supporters all I can say is THANK YOU!
As for tactical insights, I was surprised at the lack of speed on Argentina. Last match versus Mexico I was shocked that Mexico was the faster team (except Osorio, Blanco, Franco) but clearly Messi, Tevez and Higuain did not have the extra gear to slip past German defenders.
While I do not begrudge players getting paid millions of dollars, it seems to me the Argentinean player is over-valued. Messi, to me is an awesome system player. Higuain, benefits from playing with good players. DiMaria, no way he’s worth 30 million dollars to Real Madrid, no way, no way. Burdisso eh… Maxi eh….Heinze…passed it and a great actor but not a great defender. Etc…
Mascherano and Tevez are worth the money they get paid and then some.
I think this whole Messi is a GOD thing is pure marketing and Sony playstation/Xbox. I’m sorry but not once did I drool this tourney. Maybe it’s because I like guys to defend and put their bodies on the line.
Uh, Messi’s creativity and offensive skill set is ridiculous, has nothing to do with marketing. The problem was removing him (as well as Tevez & Higuain) from defensive responsibilities. As others pointed out before, this allowed Schweinsteiger to wreak havoc, thanks to this very questionable decision by Argentina’s coach.
Also, I am not sure how injured Veron was, but if he was not played besides being fit? Thanks again!
It’s actually became the more effective way to defense – using the formation 4-4-1-1 when the side is not in posession.
One thing that you should bear in mind is the tactical class of Joachim Löw. Through head-scout Urs Siegenthaler he gets all the information needed to work out the weak points of upcoming opponents. I really have to raise one’s head to him. Excellent work.
If he can work out the weak points of Spain (just by watching them tonight
), Germany could make it to the final. That would be awesome.
Keep up the good work, Löw.
Keep up the good work and analyses, ZM.
It is never a difficult job for Loew; It just shows how a efficient 4231 can achieve with the 31 part roaming all over the pitch, exchanging positions and make sure that they can be effective in pinning the defense in position.
On the contrary, Argentina was playing archaic football with everyone below Mascherano contributing nothing to offense. While Ozil was well cvered by Mascherano, as ZM said, Tevez failed at keeping check of either Lahm or Jerome, which lead to a overload with either a fullback or Schweinsteiger. The lack of defensive awareness of Maxi and di Maria helped little.
Second that. It was impressive how Löw (with Siegenthaler for sure) outclassed Argentinia on tactical sides.
Germany knew from the first minute how to play this argentine team.
There was an impressive interview with klose on television after they smashed england where he explained in detail how they fooled the england defence systematicly. He said “we knew everything about them” and the next minutes he broke down all the goals (you could see the hand signs he gave to Neuer and özil before the first goal). It was not the lack of Englands performance but the victory of the superior concept. (referees excluded)
Same today.
Spain-Paraguay instant analysis: St Iker was man of the match, is Spain’s MVP thusfar, and should be included in player of the tournament conversation along with Sneijder, Klose, and Villa http://dodgyatbest.blogspot.com/2010/07/spain-1-0-paraguay-instant-analysis.html I wish more people were giving him the credit he deserves rather than taking his everyday excellence for granted.
It’s the keeper’s fate, sadly enough. It’s why for pickup football I’ve switched from defence to forward; everyone likes a forward
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Yes excellent performance throughout this tournament, but dont feel to bad for him. He still gets accolades, makes alot of money, and dates just as many models as the forwards do, so he is not hurting by any means lol
He’s the man of the match just because he guessed correctly and saved a bad penalty attempt?
Good stuff, ZM, as usual. You’re on top of it all.
However, not sure we’re getting better and better and better. There was a period between the 25th minute and our second goal when clearly we displayed our worst in terms of ball retention and unforced errors. Not sure whether it was the pressure, but in particular our best players in technical terms, Özil, Schweinsteiger and Lahm gave some balls away cheaply. (You rightfully mentioned Schweinsteiger.) Against Ghana and Serbia we had less space to operate in when in possession, causing us trouble, but we gave less balls away. Thanks to our defence Argentine wasn’t able to really benefit from it.
What sets us apart though is that we just kill the match by going for the second and third goal nevertheless, and we’re very clinical about it – unlike Brezil, obviously.
Yes, agree that the period between approx. the 25 minute (right around when Maxi and DiMaria switched wings) until the 2nd goal Argentina gradually got on top. I was at the game, and one could feel the momentum swinging. Two things were telling: Germany were no longer getting as freely into the spaces behind Heinze, and Messi was beginning to get more and more involved higher up the pitch. Also, at the start of the 2nd half, Argentina’s fullbacks began to get more involved in attacking play, which was tactically good because it allowed Argentina to take more advantage of the wide spaces offered by Germany.
Unfortunately for Argentina, they were not able to take advantage of their period of ascendancy, in part because of Germany’s stout defending and in part because of their own impatience and the limitations of their on-field personnel. They really needed another creator on the field, they really needed at least one attacking threat in the FB position, and they really needed to simply keep on pressing home the advantages they were getting in attacking areas while defending sensibly. As we all know, they were unable to do either of those things, and when the second goal went in it was cue madness. I do believe that, had Arg been able to equalize, Germany would have been really tested; the momentum would have been heavily against them.
Spot on. I mentioned that in ZM’s preview. I can’t see this German team unlocking defenses when they are geared to stop them from the get go. Both England and Argentina were a bit naive in their approach, at the same time underestimating the youth and competence of their opponent. Honestly, we can say Maradona messed it up tactically, but the only thing he should have done was to get Milito in at 60 minutes – Higuain had an awefull first touch today. It happens to everyone. Anyway, one felt that Argentina was closing in during the first 20-25 minutes of the second half, but they just couldn’t create any openings. Maybe Veron was missing, but if Messi’s taking three players on, someone has to be open.
Anyway, Spain should play Navas on the right wing. It ought to stretch the German d enough for the all important killer pass. Both England and Argentina did not exploit it. Serbia (Krasic) and Ghana (Tageou, I think) very well did…
I think Pedro is the man to play, not Navas. He’s got everything Navas has, but will connect better with the rest of the team. Against tall strong Germany, it would be stupid to put up cross after cross, which seems to be the result of most Navas runs: take the ball to the goal line, wait for all the opposition defenders to get positioned while he tries to juke his marker, then puts up a non-aimed cross three seconds later.
Pedro can work the Barca (Xavi-Inieista) inside game and is more likely to find the great cutback pass to the open player who can slot in the goal or weave it to another player.
Whoever is played (Pedro, Fabregas, Navas, Lllorente), Torres simply should not be started.
Germany’s defence impressed me even more than their attack (since Argentina’s back four learned from neither England’s mistakes nor their own). They allowed what I still think was the best attack in the tournament nothing in front of goal until Messi finally got an anticlimactic shot off in the 91st minute. Even the maligned Mertesacker looked good, though his face might not after blocking Tevez’s shot. Messi playing deep made Schweinsteiger’s and Khedira’s days easier, of course — I was surprised at the licence Schweinsteiger had to get forward, and yet the German defence wasn’t compromised one jot.
I must disagree on your opinion of Argentina’s back four. Otamendi did have an awful match, but the rest of the defense did not play badly in my opinion. Even Mascherano had a great game.
However, all of them suffered the lack of help from an additional central midfielder and were exposed. That is the difference between a world class team and the rest. Argentina suffered the same problems against Mexico but their lack of striking power saved us that time. Germany made us pay BIG TIME.
Well there definitely was a badness gradient, with Otamendi wretched and Heinze merely disappointing. And with little midfield help besides Mascherano (who, to his credit, did his job better than any other Argentinian), Demichelis and Burdisso had a numerically difficult task. But at some point they should have realised that, whatever calamities were going on elsewhere, preventing Germans from having unimpeded shots a few yards out was of some importance. The second goal was telling. Otamendi made the major blunder, but Demichelis (who had a pretty good tournament until this game) found himself left behind, while Burdisso was in two minds when he should’ve committed to dealing with Klose and hoped Romero could deal with Podolski (which admittedly may not have worked, but at least this would’ve turned an impossible task into a very difficult one).
I agree on that, argentina neither had one chance after a combination, nor did they developed any danger by their single-handed attempts. (most notably Di Maria with his inside cuts+shots) Messi in the 91th was the only danger and the first shot fired by a player who is in the box.
Exciting defensive work against a team which was widely considered as the best in the world when it comes to terms of attacking football.
…that was just stunning
…. congratulations to Jogi Löw!!! … that is his signature. He had to cope with a lot of critic for not selecting K. Kurany and Frings and was belittled when he explained that they don’t fit in his team and system. Now everyone could see that he was right. He was also heavily critised for the selection of Podolski and Klose, but both gave the right answer on the field! …well done….
Excellent article ZM and very good discussion.
Maradona and his assistants failed to make any of the needed corrections after the Maxico game and they paid a steep price for it.
It’s a big irony that in the US both the NY Times and Washington Post just decided to run articles in appreciation of Maradona’s coaching style. I wouldn’t call him “tactically naive”, but I think he doesn’t appreciate how things have changed since 1986.
Congratulations Germany! I would save the superlatives for the final game though.
this was bound to happen with maradona’s strange lopsided formation,and lack of any proper midfield player(except macherano)maxi and dimaria are wingers.lack of cohesion in attack was a problem even in the mexico match were until they got the get out of jail free card (offside goal) they looked toothless….i think germany’s real test will be against spain.
While the score says that Germany trashed Argentina, I don’t really think that was really happened. I mean, Argentina had their chances to score the 1-1. Not to mention that Germany’s first goal was a bit lucky. After Germany scored the second goal, Argentina lost it… and from there, it was easy for them. But before that, Argentina played good…
Either way, Netherlands, Germany, Spain and Uruguay. 3 of those 4 teams have been candidates for being the World Cup Winner. In that regard, I like this world cup. Uruguay could be seen as the ‘dark horse’.
Uruguay is the weakest team, no doubt; but I think that they deserve to be in the semifinal as well. They are playing as a real team and they are putting everything to win their matches. I hope that Uruguay’s performance (whatever the scores are in their next two games) results in Uruguay being a more powerful and competitive team and not just a “fluke” like South Korea 2002, Bulgaria 1994 or Croatia 1998.
Sorry, I can not see any threat or danger for the german goal besides a shot from Messi in the 91st minute. Argentina did not had any chances at all, (mostly?) all shots where fired from distance in pure desperation. That was just perfect defending from the german side.
I do not contradict you completely, Argentina definetly played well after ~20 minutes untill the second goal, but they have never found any way to score.
Yeah, Argentina had good possession and etc. but they didn’t really create any clear cut chances. Pretty much every shot was either right at Neuer or it completely missed the goal.
You can sum up this article by saying: “Germany attacked and defended as a team, with everyone getting forward and everyone tracking back.” Every schoolboy learns this!
But many managers don´t learn that lesson, like Dunga, Maradona, Capello…
In fairness to Dunga I think he was less guilty of Capello and MAradona of shoe-horning the best attackers into something resembling a side. Dunga always made sure he had 2 defensive midfielders and didn’t try and force the likes of Diego or Ronaldinho into his side just because they are brilliant attackers. A balance must be met and Argentina’s balance was the most lop-sided of the 3 sides mentioned.
England while also being unbalanced, suffered I think from media pressure, no squad harmony and simply their best players not performing.
So Australia, England and Argentina were all thrashed.
The commonly discussed reason being they all played versions of 4-4-2 and were overrun in midfield.
If this is the case how on earth could the coaches have all made the same mistake?
Does this strike you as a bit strange?
Are you sure Germany aren’t doing something exceptional here? Perhaps even the start of a German domination of the World Game similar to Brazil in the 70’s?
I guess we will find out when they play a team that doesn’t use a 442!
It is too early to predict a German domination of the game.Germany played 3 good and 2 bad games. Astonishingly the bad games were against weaker sides.
The reason might be that Serbia and Ghana adapted their tactics in order to disturb the German game. I felt that Capello and Maradona stuck to their usual strategy because they did not feel it was necessary to react to the Germans.
All 3 games had a similar development. They started with an early goal of the German team. Around half time the opponents managed to create more pressure but without scoring and finally the killer goal or as against Australia a red card. The other team gave up and conceded more goals.
I would have expected that the German would start with high speed and pressure in order to make an early goal. I was disappointed that Argentina was not prepared for it. But as i heard yesterday on German TV, Bilardo was not the tactitian of the Argentinian staff. He had no influence on Maradona’s decisions. This made me believe that the Argentinians are going to be outfoxed.
Against Serbia the German managed to pressure the Serbs but they were much more nervous and not as fluid. It would be interesting to see what would happen should Spain make the 1st goal.
I wouldn’t exactly call Ghana and Serbia the weaker sides, though. Ghana did progress to the quarters and i would think that Australia was the weakest team in the group.
I would definitely regard Serbia and Ghana weaker than England and Argentina.
My statement was pretty precise.
If you compare the matches the development of the games is strikingly similar.
The obvious similarity is the system the losing sides played (4-4-2).
It will be interesting to see how they will perform against Spain playing a 4-2-3-1 and being the defensively strongest side so far Germany is going to face.
Sorry then, my mistake…It is worth noting that Serbia also played 4-2-3-1. Basically, they managed to score the first goal and then opted to soak up pressure and play counters. Sort of the opposite from the 1/8 and 1/4 finals where Germany scored first and then had the upper hand.
Is that why Australia beat Serbia?
Mind you they did have an unfair advantage – that was the only game where Australia kept 11 on the field.
The main issue why judging the Serbia game is hard was the red card by Klose in the first half. The goal followed immediately after, Germany was stunned by the red card first, the goal after.
They came back into the game and had the better chances, but as Löw waited very long until bringing back a true striker into the formation, the German offense was handicapped (their creative three behind the striker need space – without the striker, and less players on the field, defending against them is much easier as little space will be exposed).
In the end, watching the game I can only say, the German game looked impressive considering the red card.
Regarding Ghana, they played a deep defensive line and had two (!!!) excellent holding midfielders (unlike England who had one that wasn’t neither fit nor excellent, or Argentina that had only one that did pretty well on taking space away from Özil but consequently was unable to stop the creativity off the remaining German squad).
The result was also in favor of both teams advancing, as Australia was winning against Serbia at that time. Consequently neither team was forced to open up to change the 1-0.
Ghana did play pretty well though all tournament. They could just as easily have made the semi-final as Uruguay – it does not get closer. All in all a well deserved quarter finalist, which we can expect to be there again in four years. Their main problem was (as for many other ’smaller’ sides) the lack of depth in case of injuries/suspensions. Being a relative young team currently, this might be less of an issue for them in Brazil, where they should have a few more options.
Spain more or less play 3 in the center of midfield, so I suspect they’ll be OK on that front. When I think about how Spain should set up against Germany, the question I come back to is: how to deal with Lahm?
I’d rather see Spain play without Torres, but with 5 in the midfield they’ll likely have Iniesta on the left, and he drifts around so much Lahm will have lots of space to attack on the counter. If Spain play two forwards, Villa will be on the left enough to pin Lahm back. But Torres seems like a passenger at this point.
What’s the answer? Llorente up top? Pedro on the left? I don’t think del Bosque can get away with assuming that Spain can just play his favored formation, style and personnel and win. This isn’t the Spain of 2008, and it isn’t the Germany of 2008. The fluidity of the Spanish attack and movement could lead to bad spacing to defend Germany’s excellent counterattacks.
I would think that THIS is exactly the kind of situation where playing Alonso and Busquets together makes the most sense.
Argentina didn’t keep the ball when they had it.
England have been hopeless at possession ever since I started watching football.
Spain are very different to both these teams. Their killer passes can come from Xavi, Iniesta and to some extent Alonso. And they can bring in Fabregas. And they might start with Silva! They aren’t going to play a diamond.
Germany were brilliant last night as they were against England. All credit to them. I do see them causing a lot of problems to Spain, but I still wouldn’t bet against Spain winning it. In spite of the current form of both teams gives Germany the edge. But I do wish Torres either plays well or doesn’t start.
Exactly–finally, a match where they need both Busquets and Alonso!
Germany’s second goal took almost 3/4 of the game to happen, and ignoring the early goal Argentina conceded due to bad set-piece marking, it was to that point, a somewhat contested affair. It wasn’t until Maradona subbed Otamendi for Pastore that the game really opened up for Germany, with both goal plays coming from Otamendi’s flank. It’s funny how ZM repeatedly points out the natural weakness three man defenses have against 4-3-3 and 4-2-3-1, and in a quarter final WC match, you have the chance to see the fastest, widest, and most fluid 3 man attack, ravage, augurably the slowest, narrowest 3 man defense of the WC.
Well put.
Germanys “Second Goal” could already be done by Klose not long time after the first goal. Klose missed that opportunity, nevertheless it was a good one.
It’s a shame that Muller is missing next match. His replacement would probably be Trochowski or Marin who both are not as disciplined as Muller is.
The German fan dreams of Kroos, but fears Trochowski…
Loew has to see that Trochowski doesn’t fit, doesn’t he? Instead of minimal touches and maximal movement, Trochowski is always over-dribbling into pressure.
Bring in Kroos and Oezil still has the freedom to go inside and outside. Please Loew!
Really this match more than anything else was just a showcase of the inherent problems of a 4-4-2 diamond formation up against a 4-3-3 or similar formation. The opposing fullbacks are left wide open because the wide diamond players have to mark two players each (ex: di maria had to mark Khedera and Lahm).
Germany no doubt deserved their win, but honestly every opponent they’ve faced so far is either a weaker team or, in the case of England and Argentina, uses a formation that is ill suited to deal with the German threat.
I believe Germany will face a tougher battle against Spain for no other reason than Spain’s formation.
The biggest threat left for Germany though is without a doubt the Netherlands. The Netherlands field a similar formation to Germany, have quality, and have been playing very well.
Would the outcome will be different if Argentina played in Barca-esque 4-3-3?
We’ll see in the next game…
Greetings Sir ZM,
I would like to ask whether the tactical switch of Low from 4-2-3-1 used in previous matches to a more defensive 4-3-2-1 when Argentina had ball possession had a credible impact on restricting movement of Messi-Tevez duo. I observed Muller returning down the flank whenever possible to close down Tevez (playing on left) and Podolski coming down when Tevez was playing right. Podolski was not good at this however, which added pressure on Boateng/Fredrich eventually Argentina attacking mostly from the Boateng side. As a result, which you have aptly mentioned, left Lahm free when possession was switched to the German side. But as Argentina lacked a player in midfield, Germans effectively needed banks of three with the split(2/1 or 1/2) dynamically switching as per side of Argentine attack. The surprise which you have expressed over non utilization of Lahm despite him being free, I comprehend, could be explained by the questions you posted in your excellent tactical preview concerning Tevez’s movement and who would mark him. Tevez rightly avoided Lahm, but when unsuccessful at the right flank, Boateng/Fredrich had a not so deep Podolski to pass the ball to. This might explain most of the German counterattacking runs from the left side and most of the game being played on the far side of the pitch in the second half.
Therefore I would like to ask if it was a gamble by Low to favour a vulnerable defense on the left flank so as to have a counterattacking option than to have a deeper role for Podolski. And because the result is in favour of Germany, should Boateng/Freidrich be given more credit?
Waiting sincerely for your reply
In fact, I believe this was Podolski’s best match defensively – you can rather describe Germany as a 4-4-1-1 side when not in possession. The reasons why Argentina started the better part of their attacks from the right were a) probably their game plan (identifying the German left as the weak spot) and b) di Maria, who – once he had swapped sides with M. Rodriguez – stayed wide and could be more easily passed to than Maxi, who remained in the crowded center.
Yet, I can remember various balls won by Podolski deep in the German half, supporting Boateng a lot. Boateng, on the other hand, kept the gap between him and Friedrich as narrow as possible (i.e. until he eventually had to move wide to deal/help Podolski with di Maria, seldom also with Messi). In a nutshell, I believe pretty much the opposite of your reading is true: Löw asked Boateng to stay in a rather central position – possibly to deny Messi’s through-balls and as additional cover for the central midfield in the inevitable situations in which Messi broke through. Podolski, in turn, was assigned increased defensive duties to deny the Argentinian right ton-loads of space.
He must be given even more credit then for his offensive contribution – small wonder he, so far, had his best running game against Argentina, i.e. in terms of distance covered:
http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/statistics/players/player=196789/distanceandspeed.html
Excellent analysis Anthony, could not have explained that better ;=)
Very much agree the notion, this was in fact Podolski’s best performance defensively that I can remember.
I am pretty sure Fc Köln fans are scratching their heads whether this is the same Podolski as the one in Soldo’s system.
Podolski’s exceptional shot always existed, and never faded, but seeing him excel at the running game and defensively is a huge improvement in his worth for the team and right fully resulted in the best performance by a left full-back in Germany’s team so far this World Cup. Previously, we all wondered whether there was any hope for Badstuber, Boateng & Jansen.
They should make Podolski watch his best defensive scenes over and over again in the next days in order to forever imprint into him that defensive work = profit.
The Argentinian FA might want to order a copy as well so they can show it to their coach and offense.
As an FC Köln fan i really miss this Podolski in the Bundesliga. But without real support by the team he cannot show his skills. I think part of the problem is that he was hyped so much that his team mates often sat back and said ‘OK, show your 10 millions of worth.’. Köln is trying to do what crashed in this WC: field your star and hope. The team performed much better without Podolski, and this is something i blame on Soldo.
First post here. Thanks for the analysis, and the mainly constructive discussions in the comments. As a German it`s nice to see that our team gets some credit for their outstanding evolution througout the tournament.
I want to add some thoughts on the idea that Germany has problems if it has to deal with formations other than 4-4-2. If you look back on Serbia, the team also could have won the game. Problem was that Klose has been sent off (not because of now ten, but his job is the scoring), and second the insecurity created by the referee. You could read that from comments by Schweinsteiger after the game. Ghana was different, but keep in mind that because of the loss to Serbia the young team had to suffer enormous pressure in the German media. I also think Germany had problems with Ghana because their game is more tactically unpredictable.
It’s not a question of formations, in my opinon it’s a question of tactics. And clearly whether Capello nor Maradona had answers to that.
That’s why I have enormous respect for Spain, they’re not playing spectacular but efficient and serious. I think now that they have taken the step to the semis for the first time, we’ll clearly see a different Spanish team. Xavi’s game was much better after the goal. If Spain is one goal upfront it’s nearly impossible to win the game, even more because Germany has problems to deal with standards. But first thing is what they have in common with Germany in this tournament.
Btw, what worries me the most with Müller’s yellow card was that Di Maria did a much more clear hand ball in the first half and wasn’t booked. It is sad, that this topic is not addressed. Clearly the world cup is much better than the in preliminary round, but the voilatility of the referee attainments is ridiculous.
I agree – 100%
You also have to keep in mind, that the match against Serbia was indeed a very good match by the young german side, the only thing that was missing were goals. If they had the efficiency of the matches against Argentina and England, the Serbia game could have been a 4-1 as well, the offensive players (Podolski) just had bad luck. Even with 10 man and 1 goal behind the team was able to create great scoring opportunities.
The ref was great, besides the yellow card against Müller. either he shows Müller AND Di Maria the yellow card, or not.
wrt Ghana: Klose was sadly missed in this game and Cacau couldn’t replace him. That IMO was one of the major reasons why they had problems with Ghana…..
I think while the yellow card was hard, the ref had an excellent game. It is hardly his fault that two yellows in five games can equal suspension in a world cup semi-final.
What about adjusting the rule to instead work as this: Two consecutive yellow cards by the same player within the matches he played results in a one match ban. Consequently, any games the player plays in between without a yellow does free him up from an impending ban.
Scenario A: yellow-no yellow-yellow = no ban in 4th game
Scenario B: yellow-did not play-yellow = ban for 4th game
scenario C: yellow-yellow-banned in 3rd game = no ban in 4th game
With the hugely different level in judging fouls and tackling among refs through out the tournament this appears as the best solution to me until all refs start judging in a similar way (read = unlikely any time soon).
ZM, excellent analysis.
Germany is incredible.
I want a final between the Netherlands and either Spain or Germany. If it’s the Dutch and the Spaniards, either one is fine with me – I believe both deserve a World Cup given their traditions. But if it involves Germany – part of me will want the Dutch to win as they’ve never won it, but another part of me will say Germany would deserve it.
England; Argentina; Spain; Holland. No minnows. A very difficult road to the title, surely one of the most fearsome ever. If Germany accomplishes it, this young and revitalized German side will go down in history.
Thoroughly enjoyed the previews and the post-match analysis. As a long time watcher of the bundesliga it’s great to see the youngsters come through and outshine the “stars” of world football.
Hopefully it continues!
Just like with Gutierrez earlier in the tournament, Otamendi was left brutally exposed by Argentina’s lopsided formation. It doesn’t matter who is playing right-back , the result would have been the same.
I thought Messi and Tevez kept trying to dribble through 4 defenders instead of looking to pass. Too much individualism in Argentina’s play.
I had doubts about Germany’s ability to defend the space between midfield and defense but they did brilliantly, always retreating when they didnt have possession and not letting Messi work in his favourite area.
….hello and good morning…
i´m from germany and of course i watched the game yesterday…
i did not read all the comments so far but i want to mention that one of the winning keys yesterday was the behaviour of argentinia especially the coach maradona…he was simply sure with the key player messi he will beat the germans….everything in his team ist built around messi and with a cover up of messi by schweinsteiger and the overweight in the midfiled there was no chance for messi to play as brilliant as usual…
maradona did the way of thinking “germany – who…what ??” he made the mistake to play his system and not to react of what happens during the game…
of course both teams try to press their way but after 20 minutes one of the teams has to react tot the things happening on the field…but maradonna didnt…he goes on thinking messi will get his brilliant moments to turn the match…
argentinias team and especially maradonas self-confidence turned into arrogance and a lack of cognition to change the system…
a long time the germans were talking about “rumpel-fussball” when they were talking about the team maybe to translate like junk football which means the germans stumble over the field and make goals by mistakes…awful invidualists were no option in the team besides the famous player like beckenbauer, matthäus…and when germany had good individual players they had won the world cup…
since the era of klinsmann, who had change the mind of german football, the german team tries to play football…for example – up to the world cup in the 90´s when the germans were under pressure in front of their own goal they kicked the ball out of the stadium to clear the situation…today, due to klinsmann, they try to solve the problem by playing the ball…
so, today most teams think further the germans are not able to play the ball and the change happend during the last 10 years wasnt noticed or wasnt take seriously…
There were a lot of people got fooled by Argentina performance in group stage. Yes they won but against who? Their opponent was not formidable side and easily overwhelmed by Argentina attacker.
Meanwhile their South America counterpart like Brazil and Paraguay went home because series of unfortunate event, Argentina was kicked out in disgrace.
Interesting note as Germany’s group of death prepared them earlier than other teams and brought them together far quicker and I think they have benefited from it. They’ve also grown in every match, that’s quite noticeable. Podolski isn’t as wasteful nor does he behave as selfishly in front of goal but instead he seems to be getting more involved in the back.
Germany’s road to the final is quite possibly the most difficult in World Cup history. They were in the group of death and then already facing three favorites and top tier teams on the way to the final. Would be an extraordinary task if they can manage to win it all, considering their age especially.
Some are saying that Mertesacker and Friedrich are the least talented in the German XI. That may be true in terms of technical skill, but their defending skills have been almost world-class with only 2 goals conceded(although it should been three when Lampard’s goal was disallowed).
Mertesacker did not play as well as he did in the season for Bremen. His performance against Serbia and Ghana was very poor, many mistakes you normaly do not get to see from him. But he did better against England and was perfect against Argentina.
Friedrich is one of the biggest surprise in this team. He was not able to avoid relegation with his Club Berlin, so there was a big concern before world cup if he should play besides Mertesacker. But from what I have seen from him, he is pure world class in this tournament, probably the best defender and a must have for every wc2010 allstar team.
I commented in the Germany analysis before the tourney about how happy I am for Friedrich to finally be allowed to show his skills as center-back in a tournament for Germany. In previous tournaments, he was always forced to play the right full-back role (prior to Lahm switching from left full-back, it was a vacant position).
Now the world can see, how much better he is as center-back and finally does get the recognition in the tournament of his life. A bit of a shame that we had to suffer seeing him play as right-back for so long though, but I guess there were no better options back then ;=)
I think, its going to get more interesting looking for the way to crack this Germany’s 4-2-3-1 rather than praise them. ^_^
1. STOP Ozil
Argen really cut Ozil out of his game but at the end Macherano ran out of battery. Obviously you need 2 DEF MID.
2. STOP Lahm
He may seem like an ordinary WINGBACK with an ordinary cross but actully he is the one who ruin the oppenent position. He takes the ball (pressure) away from busy area which allow his teammate(MID) to reposition and take some breath and he is very good at that.
3. STOP Klose
Last option for Germany if their MID really can’t find to way to break in. Send longball in to the box and let Klose does his job. Sound like a desperate move but you can setup a team to do that. Give a right mind set to the team. A clinical Longball + Klose is a deadly combination.
Seem like you need a German mindset to break this German team. >_<
(sorry about my english)
You forgot to mention Schweinsteiger.
How he goes determines how Germany goes.
Teams absolutely have to stop him and Özil. And then you have to account for Klose, Podolski, Khedira, Lahm etc. + of course Müller when he returns (awful booking btw).
In my idea Germany Midfield have got their space and time bcoz of Ozil and Lahm drag the oppenent team midfield out of place otherwise they will not allow to advance to an offensive game.
So if we can stop Ozil and Lahm we may possible to keep the whole Germany midfield at bay.
and if we can do that! Force Lahm and Ozil out of their game. Give Schwein no more room to play.
Podolski is going to be Germany Triumph card!
(sorry about my english)
As usual, I will skip some of the points already covered.
I think ZM was correct in predicting in his post-match analysis that Argentina riks of being overrun in the midfield if DM insists on fielding his usual formation.
I had expected DM to be more pragmatic in his formation and field another DM but he didn’t.
With only JM actually doing the defending duties in the midfield, the slow Argentina defence sitting deeper (fearing the German pace) and the lop-sided formation in midfield presented Germany big gaps to move forward in numbers unchecked. As such, the Germans completely dominated midfield whenever they wanted and pushed forward almost without resistance.
Here DM made the same mistake as Capello and was overconfident on his team’s ability. Instead of taking a more conservative approach. Such appraoch played right into German’s hands which they took gleefully.
It was apparent within 10 minutes that which team going to win and it was clear that the Germans going to score a hatful.
The problem with Argentina was that they were slow, very slow in launching attacks from defence. As such the Germans easily withdrew and prepared to defend and nullified the attacks quite easily. By the time the ball reached the dangermen, the Germans were ready and closed down the space. This is a pity since their attackers were quick and skillful.
As I had said before, DM doesn’t have the tactical expertise to fully exploit the array of talent as his disposal. His emotional style of management has been detrimental though the 1st round results had masked his shortcomings, only to be cruelly exposed by the Germans.
There are several points overlooked by commentators here and elsewhere, so let me cover that.
1. First goal : It was not just poor marking but preparation as well. Argentina was expecting the ball to the middle where Klose and the tall defenders were waiting. Bastian’s cross was excellent where it was placed in between the defence and the keeper and to the front to Mueller.
2. Germany’s defence had an excellent game. Friedrich, Mertasacker and Boeteng along with Lahm had excellent match. Mertasacker seems to have have rediscovered some of his old form while Boeteng’s match temperement had improved. He had a much better match though I though Jansen did even better when he came on (though this was only for a short period).
3. Fitness : One major factor for victory is the German’s fitness. That they scored a lot of their goals in the 2nd half or last 30 minutes in their games is no coincident but due to their superior fitness when their opponents are already fatigued.
4. Schweinsteiger & Podolski : Loew had made changes to their roles. Podolski has added defensive duties to his attacking talents. To me he has been the biggest positive surprise since I know Oezil’s and Mueller’s abilities well before the WC. As for Schweinsteiger, if you notice his role is different from his BM’s one. For Germany he plays further up thus using more of his attacking and dribbling skills. Which to me is the right decision.
5. I also had predicted that if Mascherano marks Oezil, he will leave gaps for Mueller, Schweinsteiger and Khedira to make forward runs and this what happened. In fact Oezil was pulling JM all over the field with his decoy runs. So it was wrong to think Oezil had a poor game as this was Loew’s / Oezil’s plan all along.
6. The German defence was able to withstand Argentina’s attack without resorting to fouls or physical challenges was remarkable.
7. There was one mistake Leow did and that was sitting too deep in the opening stages of 2nd half, thus Argentina to start creating some real danger. Once Germany stepped up a gear, then Argentina was overrun again.
8. Schweinsteiger’s performance was not only worth MOM award but also certainly the best individual performance in this WC so far. Awesome.
9. Tevez tried hard but to me he appeared to be playing for himself. He was clearly making all sorts of angry remarks at his team mates and I get the feeling that he’s not well liked in the team. He also lacked discipline but straying all over the field but most in areas he posed no threats. Also he avoided Lahm or harass the Germany’s dodgy CBs.
10. Fundamentally Argentina lost because of poor tactics, lopsided team (unbalanced) and due to superior German’s team performance in terms of tactics, talent, teamwork, speed and fitness.
First off, I am very thankful that Veron did not (could not?) play.
Regarding 5) Very much second this opinion. Löw touched on this in post-game interviews in other games, but it was very visible again against Argentina. The ability and willingness of Germany’s offense to drift in order to pull key players out of position was done well once again. Özil excels at this, but so do Klose & Müller in my opinion. Khediras stamina and his countless runs also help in this regard. Although he has not been much involved actively at all in the offensive third, his runs (though much less used against Argentina) force the defense to give up their positions. Podolskis explosiveness sprinting along the flank with Müller staying wide on the other side, and then Özil & Klose pulling their enemies into bad positions, adding Khediras darting runs result in a beautiful reportoire of opportunities for Germany’s creativity coming from Lahm and obviously from Schweinsteiger.
And as many have pointed out, especially for Schweinsteiger things have never been easier when the opponent side does not even attempt to take space away from him. Of course we are all raving about his performances now, but one must not forget it has much to do with the amount of options available to him thanks to the setup of the other parts of the team.
And with that, bravo coach! Not only does he expose weaknesses in other teams well, he also has formed an excellent hard working squad (with Podolski backtracking!!! – FC Köln fans will likely build Löw a statue for this achievement alone!). And yes, he was much smarter than the majority of the media circus and the other 80 million national team coaches in sticking to his plan by leaving Frings and Kuranyi at home and bringing Podolski and Klose instead, despite their abysmal/injury ridden seasons. Bravo!
ZM has done a great job. Also I like to add some points even though I may not be totally correct.
1.Marking Messi- In the beginning Schweini did that and at the middle Khedira and also Muller did that.
2.Podolski as a defender- To me, he did a great job; not only pressing. He saved Germany from 3 counter-attacks. 2 tackles and a brilliant interception to Tevez when he looked like he was over-running 2 defenders(This happened in the 1st half)
3.Poor ball possession from Germany- They did many uncharacteristic mistakes when passing
4.Positional Changes- Later in the game it seemed to me that Oezil and Muellar sawpped their positions consistently
* If I am correct you have said that making Andrea Pirlo a deep-lying playmaker from No.10 was one of the most remarkable things that have done. Then what about Schweinsteiger. In 2006 he was a offensive midfielder. In 2008 he was a winger. Now he is a deep-lying playmaker(To me he has the best defensive abilities than any other like Xavi, Xabi Alonso and Pirlo)
As a response to some comments…
Germany to me is the one of the most underrated teams. That’s why you’re all talking about excuses.
Klose is one of the most underrated strikers in the world. He has exceptional heading ability. Great finishing. A brilliant off-the ball movement(Not as good as Gilardino though).
You can’t man-mark Schweini. Oezil and Khedira also have the same ability to trouble the opposition defenses
Well I am expecting a great tactical battle in the semis. “Tiki-taka” vs “Teamgeist”
Schweini’s positional switch was a fine transformation, though do bear in mind he has an imposing physique to aid him in his combative responsibilites.
Pirlo on the other hand went from being a gentile trequartista to a position which is normally the preserve of tougher athletes.
Schweinsteiger already excelled at this in 2006. He did play on the wing back then, and many along with me were surprised at times to see that much grit and tackling from a foremost offensive player. But this faded after the world cup, and ironically it took a couple of years for a coach to remember this and connect the dots to play Schweinsteiger in the perfect position for him. Thanks!
For the Bundesliga fans among us, anyone else remember Zé Roberto’s conversion from winger (in Bundesliga teams) to his position as holding midfielder (first for Brazil, later in Bundesliga as well)?
Another great player that played on wing for a while, that did do well in his new position as well.
4) I commented on this in previous articles from Germany’s matches in group stage. As Müller plays well in central position, having Özil drift right allows Müller to interchange with him. Özil & Müller do well in both positions, where as their (now out of position) enemies often do not =)
I think one of the most fundamental mistakes by Maradona was that he tried to make Messi a trequirista when he’s much better as a striker / winger hybrid who is served the ball in space. Maradona put him in the most congested part of the field and tried to force him to make plays.
Big mistake, but probably necessary. Since the loss of Riquelme, Argentina hasn’t produced a true passing #10 (it’s not exactly like these things are easy to find in their defense).
Unlike Spain, Germany arrived at this World Cup with a few unknowns. They were a young and inexperienced side for the most part, known for more of an attacking style but with a suspect defense. They were still Germany and due respect, but it wasn’t known just how much this side had that innate ‘German’ quality about them.
The matches that followed showed their promise, but it also showed how general uncertainty played in their favor to a degree. Australia got their tactics wrong in the first half and were punished for it. Argentina were a disparate side and England were simply enigmatic. Of the sides who tested Germany’s ability to attack, one lost by a goal (Ghana) and the other won by a goal (Serbia against 10 men admittedly).
Compare this to Spain, a well known side that specializes in possession football. Everyone knows that to play the Spanish two things must be addressed: disrupt their possession and work the counterattack. Spain like to keep the ball and they like playing high up on the pitch. They’ll murder you with passes if you let them. So, it follows that the matches against Spain were fairly predictable with sides pressing Spain heavily and/or playing deep, and launching counterattacks whenever possible. Sort of like a typical La Liga season for FC Barcelona these days.
The results were predictable as well, low-mid scoring Spanish victories but for an opening loss. There were no surprisingly random tactical displays by any of the sides who played Spain, and they were all fairly consistent with their prime objective: don’t lose (possibly expecting Chile who really were exciting to watch). In fact, the one consistent topic that came out of all of Spain’s matches were focused on Spain’s seeming lack of form.
The semifinal between Germany and Spain should prove to be a great match. Germany have shown their qualities while Spain have had to tough their way through the tournament, relying on a bit of luck and never-say-die mentality. Both sides are balanced and play attractive football, though with significantly different styles. The result should be enlightening.
Basically, Spain is currently advancing in away that the media often labels “typical German”, where as Germany is currently advancing in a way that the media would label as “Brazilian” in the past, Spanish in recent years (and rightly as Totaalvoetbal back in the day).
Argentine players who should form part of the squad for Copa America 2011 and with a view for 2014 World Cup:
Defenders: Garay, Gaby Milito (to contribute experience) Angeleri (as a full-back), Otamendi (but only as a central defender), Zanetti (to cover the void at left-back if only temporarily and until end of Copa America).
MIdfield: A deep-lying organiser to accompany Mascherano = Ever Banega; Lucho Gonazalez to provide box-to-box running.
Attack: few concerns here… Messi, Higuain, Tevez et al just need a funcitoning midfield behind them in order to shine. Di Maria will be used as a proper outside-forward at Madrid by Mourinho and so too he should be employed by the albiceleste
—– ——Carrizo————
–Garay–Pareja–Forlin–Ansaldi–
—Banega– Mascherano–Perotti–
–Messi–Pastore–Higuain–
Diego Perotti – why, of course!
The guy has acquired an incredible work-ethic during his time at Sevilla (due to their high-tempo style). Fast, strong and skillfull. Not really a winger, I see him as potentially a Kaká-style attacking midfielder (as opposed to a traditional enganche), very direct and objective. If Messi were to play centrally in a 4-2-3-1, then Perotti could easily start from one of the flanks. But unlike Kaka, Perotti has the workrate to play even deeper in midfield, so maybe he could be coaxed into a No.8. role of the kind you suggest in your diagram. We’ve already marvelled at how Schweinsteiger has gone from attacking midfielder to a deeper, organizing position.
Podolski in this formation does play a key role which is why he is never substituted even when he plays poorly. His fitness and ability to run at full stop can be used wisely to defend. However he simply isn’t a hard working player when that should be the case and can benefit the team tremendously. I think he has improved slightly in this regard and it showed in the match against Argentina. he certainly isn’t the most talented of players in this team but his workrate actually benefits the team because he attracts so much of the opposition and if trained properly and advised by the coach he can help you defend. I really hope he continues this against Spain as Iniesta will no doubt attack Germany’s left hand side, so it will be up to Podolski to make sure that is cut out before the Spaniard reaches their final third.
Technically and off the ball he isn’t as imaginative as Mueller or Oezil or even Kroos and Marin, but he has by far the strongest shot on the team and that threat gives the offense great balance.
agree!
a countable long range shooter could turn the table on a blink of an eyes. and no doubt we can count on Podolski.
Podolski is needed because he is a real threat to the opponent’s goal. Marin for example is more of a creative player, but so far germany creates lots of chances, so the inclusion of Podolski is a wise decision by Löw. He also has a good understanding with Klose from all those years in the national team together. He also improved a lot in defending, against argentina you could see him at the right(!) side of the pitch chasing argentinian players…maybe this comes from his hard season in cologne, where he had to do a lot of defending without the support of high class teammates?
Uh – have respectfully disagree with the idea that Podolski learned this in Cologne. His abysmal season was not helped at all by his lack of work ethic defensively.
If anything, I think what helps him is that the team loves him being there, very much unlike in Cologne where he has this mythical superstar role among fans which he could never back up with performances for them. Consequently, one often has to read about Podolski and the team possibly not fitting that well together (especially striker Novakovic seemed to throw fits).
I can agree on low team spirit in cologne regarding podolski…still makes me sad. I hope this will change next season. After all it would have been better for him to stay in munich and put some pressure on Ribery (who looked like an egocentric bitch last season). He seemed to blossom when Heynkes took over, and van Gaal would have found a way to use him well…
first of all I havn’t read all of the comments so I could be repeating something already said, this is just a general observation..
Argentina’s weakest areas of the tournament were:
- right back (please… firstly playing newcastles right winger at right back and then restricting his forward runs to the halfway line does not make sense at all and secondaly otamendi, self explanatory really)
- finding a central midfield partner for mascherano which would have allowed their attacking talents to flourish..
err diego ever heard of JAVIER ZANETTI AND ESTEBAN CAMBIASSO..
I am certain that this point will have been made before, great footballer and an interesting personality, but leaving two key players out for what I can only suggest are personal reasons is just silly.
hi all
ZM great analysis…SIMPLICITY was indeed the German key to success…congrats again for your insightful game break-down…
ok, i cannot say that i have read all the comments posted, i did read numerous and scrolled through the rest of them…i apologize if i’m repeating stuff, as i’m pretty sure i’m going to end up doing
ARGENTINA: i’m a [reasonable] INTERNAZIONALE fan; the day i read, ZANETTI AND CAMBIASSO, were left out, i was very, very bitter…i have posted that here in may, after the inter – bayern cfl final…not only was i bitter by maradona’s INSENSITIVE blow to ZANETTI, considering this would be his farewell WC (maybe not, he’s at his peak this season, better than ever), but more so when i learned (read diego’s interview actually) of MILITO’s only-to-impress-the-press inclusion!!!!!!!! he made it clear, he would accept to bring him on the bench!!!! i was not able to understand this psychopathic arrogance from maradona…anyway, i started watching argentina’s path to demise, trying to basically justify my logic…fair enough, that’s where stupidity bridled with blind arrogance leads you…a team so rich of world-class players that fucks it up…end of the story
GERMANY: very happy for them, never been a german fan, but never had the problem recognizing, respecting and cheering for a solid team either…i’ll tell when i exactly knew what a crazy team this was…
it wasn’t after crushing the aussies 4:0;
it wasn’t after the ghana win
it wasn’t even after the england win, which i called an easy-training session for the germans…and
it definitely isn’t after the argentine game
it was the serbian game they lost that i was simply left speechless…that’s when i told my socialites, most of them emphasizing the loss, rather the game itself, that this is the scariest german team to date (in my lifetime, i’m almost 40)…they DOMINATED the game with one man down, as they even didn’t notice it…at first i thought the experienced serbian coach chose to give the ball-possession up, to counter-attack instead, which i don’t understand the need when your one man advantage, but hey, whatever…then i saw the ghana-aussie game, and australia were one man down; same thing the aussies dominated a serbian-coached-ghana team,; i’ve drawn the conclusion the serbian school doesn’t take into consideration this element…too bad for them, anyway back to germany, awesome team…
i hope they play fast against spain, who doesn’t have that crazy SENNA midfielder from 2 years ago, who made the german life hard…i’m confident, germany will defeat this ultra-boring-spain (yes STEVE, i dare to say they’re extremely boring to watch!!!), for another reason, they r still fresh, most of these big score wins for them, were rather easy, i don’t see them sweating much on the field…they are a fresh, disciplined, passionate and ruthless team this year…
i wouldn’t mind them collecting the trophy
cheers all
fully agreed!
ZM, I am too late to comment but still. Germany was very good, but they were made to look brilliant by a horrible Argentine line up. The lack of a central midfielder in Argentine line up meant that once they got the ball from the forward line of Argentina, Germany had an empty space, in the centre of the pitch, all the way upto the Argentine D, where they faced Macherrano. I havent seen any world class team playing like this. Its a pity for Argentina.
I have been arguing this many times, only Veron knew how to use Messi, may be Pastore too. But on this match, did you notice Tevez and Di Maria were always looking for their own glory. How many passes did Tevez make to Messi. Messi was the only Argentine player who made some creative passes in the whole game, until the arrival of Pastore. But by then they had lost the game. No point in saying Tevez is running everywhere, he lost more balls than he earned. I dont want to make him the scapegoat, but Veron should have started instead of him as a central player. Watching Messi coming even beyond the centre circle to pick up the ball, it was very sure that he couldnt help this defeat. I simply hope he wont be made a villain in Argentina.
If anyone cares, in honor of Podolski I back tracked a bit :Þ and added a couple of replies to your comments from my pov ;=)
One more piece from the last Bundesliga season. In a survey conducted among Bundesliga players (not fans, players!), Klose, Podolski & Gomez were picked as the three biggest losers of the season…
Hi ZM,
thank you for all your interesting work you do.
I just want to add one thing about Müller which i did not find recognized anywhere yet.
I thought his biggest moment was not his goal or his pass from the ground but when he was substituted.
He went directly after the referee shook hands and went off (jogging).
I mean, this is the referee who made him miss the semifinal on a somewhat discusable situation (i think that this Uzbekian is one of the best referees during the whole tournament) and with all the emotions coming up during the game he still was able to go to the ref and show a fair gesture.
I was really moved by this and wondered why nobody thought it even to be remarkable (no comment from the commentator…found nothing in the papers).
And while i will miss WONDERBOY for the next game i really hope that we finally will see more of Toni Kroos.
He is by far the most valuable talent germany has (Özil, Müller, Marin not even close).
This guy has Beckenbauer potential and i would like to see him get a chance as early as possible.
Interesting, good spot. He seems a nice lad.
I think he did not even really protest against the yellow card, while some argentinian players pressed for the yellow card and made this typical hand-movement (Higuain)
i saw that too and i was just stunned. i cant think of any other player in the world being that mature and fair. and he’s still only 20…
He showed glimpses of this during the press conference when Maradon disrespected him so immensely. He’s a humble lad and fantastic professional. I really hope the highs of being a pro footballer don’t jade him and turn him into an egocentric spoiled baby.
Low also demands that his players constantly search out space while the team is in possession. “I want to see players getting into space and asking for the ball. This makes the game more fluid and dynamic.
“I knew that some of our players are extremely good at that – Ozil, Poldi, Muller, Kroos”
- Jogi Loew
Hopefully that means he understands how much better suited Kroos would be to replace Mueller against Spain than Trochowski.
One key aspect of retaining possession we english fail to grasp. It’s not just about the man on the ball, its also about the men without the ball making themsekves available for a pass.
Naturally, a rigid 4-4-2 populated by players who are scared of being caught out of position is not conducive to good passing
And not just making yourself available for pass. Moving to force opponents to move with you, which creates space for your teammates – although you won’t receive the ball for doing it. Sadly, this often takes a while to teach, some players will take a long time to learn it, while others just seem to do it from the get go.
Müller did this well during Schweinsteigers run to the line before setting up Friedrichs goal. Müller moved away (and forced opponent to go with him) and hence freed up the space for Schweinsteiger. Just beautiful to watch =)
Germany scientist give LOW and Germany team a mind reading device. ^_^
There is no doubt of the efficiency of the German attack, but I still wonder how they manage to operate so effectively. In particular, how did Klose manage to keep Samuel and Demichelis off Ozil, giving him the space around Mascherano necessary to facilitate their buildup? Mascherano is an excellent marker and, though touted as weak, the Argentinean backline is no pushover. It seems as if Klose can singlehandedly subdue two center backs at once. How does he manage to do this?
……”how did Klose manage to keep Samuel and ……. off Ozil”…….
yeah, he must be a magician
….
haha what I’m trying to say is how did he keep both center backs preoccupied?
Probably reputation. You can’t risk someone that strong in the air with only one marker.
The answer is world class movement!
Klose is a great off the ball player, always moving and looking for different lanes and gaps to exploit the back of the defensive line.
You can’t mark a player with that skill with just one player… both center backs need to stay in a position to intercept that killer ball, and thus can’t take their eyes of Klose.
The lack of marking in the argentinian midfield enabled Germany to always have free players running from the back withou being picked up.
As ZM noticed, all 3 goals are carbon copies of each other. Always someone coming from the back without being marked.
samuel (the Wall) was NOT playing!!!
it could have been another story if he did
When Mr Wenger finally gives up the helm at Arsenal, they could do worse than hire Mr Low. Meanwhile, can he please help send Mr Schweinsteiger to North London to stiffen the middle.
Danke.
Löw announced yesterday, that not only Trochowski or Kroos could fill the Position of Müller but also Cacau.
He is recovers from back-injury and questionable for wednesday, but Löw stated that he could become a possibility.
Very good choice in my opinion. He is fast, explosive, has a brillant technique and a powershot like Podolski. Altough he is injuried, he is possibly the one who fits best because he had much more playing time then Kroos or Trochowski (he played as a striker but anyway I think he can play the right wing as well)
Maradona is an idiot. It could have been so easy. Take Cambiasson and Zanetti in. He could have played roughly like Inter. Instead of Sneijder Messi in the free role, giving him the space he needs. Tevez and Di Maria(or somebody else) else roughly like Eto’o and Pandev. Mascherona alone defended quite well. Cambiasso and Mascherano would have been virtually impenetrable.
Otamendi-DeMichelis-Samuel-Zanetti
Mascherano-Cambiasso
Tevez-Messi-Di Maria
Milito
Zanetti, Cambiasso and Samuel would have know the system already.
As I see the most successful sides copy the systems of Inter, Bayer and Barca.