Greece: lightning probably won’t strike twice

Greece with 4-3-3
It seems foolish to write off Greece after the miracle of 2004, but both on paper and on the pitch, this seems a fairly weak side – albeit on that is well-organised and has a good understanding between players.
Otto Rehhagel is still in charge, and having played a variety of systems throughout qualification, appears to prefer a fairly defensive 4-3-3 shape that has generally been his favoured formation throughout his nine years in charge.
That’s not to say that he will keep the same shape throughout – indeed, it would be more of a surprise if he didn’t vary his tactics and alter personnel. As Euro 2004 showed, Rehhagel is a tactician in every sense of the word – changing his system at will to stifle his opponents, and to exploit their individual weaknesses.
There does appear to be a pattern to Rahhagel’s switches in formation – he always likes to have a spare centre-back. Go through the qualification matches for this tournament, and he switched between a few different shapes, most often a 3-4-3 and a 4-3-3. The three-man defence is used when the opposition play two forwards, the four-man defence is used when the opposition play three. Their formation will therefore probably depend on how Greece’s opponents are expected to line up.
Three up top
Rehhagel himself is intent on playing three forwards, in order to occupy the opposition full-backs. His trident will probably be Theofanis Gekas, Georgios Samaras and Dimitris Salpigidis, with Angelos Charistaes, the hero of Euro 2004, likely to be used as a plan B.
They form a slightly lopsided front three – Gekas, prolific in the qualifiers but against very weak teams, plays a central role based largely around movement. The two either side of him are very different players – Samaras is a tall, physical but skilful player who drops deep to the left for Greece and receives the ball to feet. On the right-hand side will be Salpigidis, a more traditional winger who takes his starting position outside the full-back.
Midfield
As in Euro 2004, the midfield roles are slightly difficult to understand. The wonderful, underrated Giorgos Karagounis has the clearest job – he is the creator. Not particularly mobile and a slightly rash tackler, he tends to float around to the right-hand side of the midfield, finding space wherever he can – with his excellent range of passing, it’s not really an issue if he doesn’t pick up the ball in central positions.
Karagounis’ two midfield colleagues, both essentially defensive midfielders, seem to base their game around mutual understanding rather than specific positional instructions, although Alexandros Tziolis is a more energetic player than Konstantinos Katsouranis, and therefore links up with the forwards slightly more.
Strong at the back

Greece, 3-4-3
For a team so apparently negative and defensive, the 2004 side had remarkably attacking full-backs. That is again the case, with Loukas Vyntra the more positive of the two, getting forward to combine with his Panathinaikos teammates Karagounis and Salpigidis on the right. Another club teammate, Nikos Spiropoulos, is also capable of providing attacking width from left-back – these two push forward when Greece revert to 3-4-3 to become wing-backs. Sotirios Kyrgiakos of Liverpool and Vaggelis Moras of Bologna are the first-choice centre-backs.
Of course, this all assumes it’ll be the 4-3-3 – it might well be the 3-4-3 instead, in which case Tziolis would be the favourite to be dropped from the centre of midfield, with the brilliantly-named Sokratis Papastathopoulos likely to come in. Watch for the shift in order to keep a spare man.
Conclusion
Relatively unimpressive in their poor qualification group, Greece will nevertheless be a tricky opponent because of the tactical nous of their manager and the flexibility of their players.
The biggest problem will be scoring goals. Gekas was the top scorer in the entire UEFA qualification for this tournament, but nine of his ten goals came against Moldova, Latvia and Luxembourg, with another against Israel. That said, he was the Bundesliga top goalscorer in 2006/07, and will need to show that form here, because Samaras’ record of 5 goals in 33 caps and Salpigidis’ 3 in 33 are far from impressive.
Their best chance of scoring may well be, like in Euro 2004, from set-pieces. Moras is 6′5, Kyrgiakos is 6′4, and four other outfield players are over 6′ – add that to Karagounis’ excellent set-piece delivery and there is a clear threat. They won’t be as good as in 2004, but then they can’t be as bad as in 2008; the best thing to be said for Greece is that they are in a fairly weak group, and therefore could make the knockout stages.
Greece: lightning probably won’t strike twice


Great article: just a correction. “Tzilos” you have in the first graph is actually called Tziolis and -unless a surprise happens- won’t feature in the starting eleven. He used to play a lot while he was a basic member of Panathinaikos team. However coach changed and fans didn’t want him anymore (it’s a long story, irrelevant to the site) and he didn’t play for almost a full season. Then he got a move to Siena. If Rehagel decides to go with 4-4-2 (highly unlikely in my opinion) the first candidate for this position is Torosidis, who played a lot of games well in this season as a Defensive Midfielder
Correction, I meant 4-3-3, not 4-4-2
Tziolis was used against North Korea, and I think this is what ZM was basing his hypothetical line up on.
Despite, the discrepancy in talent, you have to think that Rehhagel is looking forward to matching tactical wits with Maradonna. With Argentina playing without attacking fullbacks, I would think Rehhagel is going to drop one of the forwards for another midfielder, creating more of a 3-5-2 instead of 3-4-3.
Although Rehagel switched between 3 and 2 central defenders in Euro 2004 depending on the opposition, in recent times he has also played a 3-4-3/5-4-1 even against sides using a lone striker (for example Ukraine). Since the retirement of Zagorakis and Basinas, Rehagel has tried using fullbacks in central midfield (Torosidis, Patsazoglou) or players who have not made the grade (Tziolis, Pliatsikas). In the absence of decent midfield options, Rehgagel just accepts that he has no chance of winning midfield battles and plays even more of a defensive counterattacking game than in Euro 2004.
So although Tziolis did play against North Korea, I think Greece will definitely use the 5-4-1 shape against Argentina, and it is likely that they will use it against Nigeria and South Korea too.
SPAIN please !!
Excellent write-up, hoping you’ll do a few more on the “smaller” nations as most of us rarely get to see them in action.
Hey Great website.Am a big fan from India.
Just one request.Could you possibly include how would the opposition coaches try and counter these strategies.I understand it depends a lot on players at your own disposal bt it would be amazing to think from the point of view of opposition.
Would be great to see but I think for now the emphasis is on pumping out articles on all teams before the first games – maybe he’ll touch on this at a later stage in the tourney. Would be great for sure ;=)
Once again a great article ZM. As a Greek I’m amazed by how poor the quality in this side is in contrast to past Greek ones who never achieved anything internationally. The only bright hope seems to come from 20-year-old Ninis, but I’m not sure how much Rehaggel will be prepared to use him. Haristeas may have been the hero of 2004 but he’s hardly Greek League class, nevermind international class. They may have come together brilliantly in 2004, but the sad conclusion about Greece is that they simply do not have good enough players. Further than that, most of the players are settled and do not seem as hungry as they were 6 years ago to succeed. In contrast to their shambolic performance in USA ‘94, I’m hoping they’ll at least get a point or score a goal this time round…
ZM: I’m an addict. Absolutely love this site.
A request: would love to see an analysis of the USAvTurkey game. Seems to me the half substitutions – getting Clark out for Torres and moving Dempsey back out to the wing and playing a traditional 4-4-2 with Donavan and Dempsey making runs from the wings made the difference. Bradley the key to this team? Bocanegra’s runs nice too, as long as the rest of the back line can create a three man defense when pushing forward, especially against single striker teams. Interesting first half experiment: Dempsey as a forward playing behind Altidore as a kind of tradition number 10 didn’t work at all. Seems like a side that will play England well and make it out of their group. But the likely first knock-out round matchup, USAvGermany, will be a clinical match, though Germany’s cleanness will win it out if only because they will rule possession against a side that can be bullied off the ball.
Dempsey wasn’t playing behind Altidore in the first half; he was even with him. The US played a perfectly traditional flat 4-4-2 the entire game (albeit with the wingers and strikers given a bit of freedom to move around). It was nice when the right personnel were on the field, but with Dempsey at striker and Feilhaber (a central midfielder by trade) on the left wing it was pretty ugly.
P.S. Why is no one talking about the Netherlands?
i think that for full backs rehagel is going to use torosidis and vyntra, even using one of them out of natural potition.spyropoylos was a revelation against ukraine but according to my opinion torosidis-vyntra will be the first choices. as far as concerning the friendly match torosidis wasnt in the first line up cause of a light injury, but ,now i think he totally recovered. same thing for sotiris ninis. i think charisteas or kapetanos will be used against south korea because of their ability on air and strenght.
generally, a very very good site and article too!
Instead of Spyropoulos it is very probable that Torosidis will play the left back position if he’ll get healthy. He will provide more solid defence and he’s certainly more prolific scoring goals, too. (good shot, and good head-baller for fouls & corners)
I am a greek fan and have to say that I love this site.I too beleive that Torosidis will for sure start.Either in a midfeild role in Tziolis position or in fullback for Spyropoulos where he also can be a very good attacking option(as he showed in the greek Super League).And to finish I hope Otto will give Ninis a chance because I beleive that he is the most skillfull player in our squad as he as shown many times in the past couple of seasons not only in the Super League but in the Europa League games Panathinaikos had against Roma as well.
Sotiris Ninis is definitely the wild card for Greece. He might be young and relatively inexperienced at international level but he is their best bet to cause problems offensively. Rehhagel will not start him so his role will be as an impact option from the bench should Greece need to change their approach. I would love for Rehhagel to use him from the start but it is unlikely because he will want to stick with his trusted approach and it might be asking too much of Ninis at this stage of his development.
I would like to add that none of the potential starters on the wing is a real winger. Greece is notoriously shorthanded in those positions and especially on the left (2004 squad featured two right wingers with only Giannakopoulos having a major role). Left winger will probably be a target man (either Samaras or Charisteas in his familiar 2004 role) and the right winger will be either classic goal poacher Salpingidis, playmaker – winger Ninis or Fullback-utility player torosidis.
“notoriously shorthanded in those positions”
Spot on!
Well as Greek i have to admit that i am not happy with our performance against S.Korea.Rehhagel tried some tactical surprises with Vyntra and A. Papadopoulos because he wanted faster center backs but i think that Papastathopoulos, who had a good season at Genoa and learnt a lot,and Kyrgiakos who is playing at Liverpool sould have been prefered.I also think that Spyropoulos should have been the left back and Torosidis could be either the right back or defensive midfielder.Furthermore i think that Salpingidis should have been on the starting line up as the right attacking midfielder because we had to put pressure on the vulnerable S.Korea defense espesially when they had the ball because they make lots of mistakes and a fast player is always better,i also think that Ninis would be a good substitution because of his talent.Finally we have to admit that Rehhagel is the best coach in our football history and because of him we were European Champions and we competed to another one at 2008 and now at the world cup.In our history until 2002 we had competed in just 2 major tournaments and in 8 years we have played at 3.We now expect the match against Nigeria and if we win then we are expecting to see his tactical surprises against Argentina